AI Hardware Will Be Everywhere (for a fee)

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  • This is a recording of a talk I've done now at multiple events - in this case, it is the ‪@eetimes747‬ AI Everywhere Forum, hosted Dec 13th 2022. The title of the talk is State of Play: AI Hardware Startups, and covers the different types of architectures being built by a lot of the companies in the AI semiconductor hardware space building chips for either machine learning training or inference. As of recording, around $10B has been invested into these startups (at least, $10B that we know of), and estimates are in the $100B if we include software and the big players investments too (NVIDIA, Intel).
    It is free to sign up to the EE Times AI Everywhere Forum at
    aieverywhere.eetimes.com/
    Timestamps
    Intro
    - [0:00] The role of AI Hardware
    - [0:40] Talk Overview
    - [1:50] Intro to me #selfpromotion
    - [2:45] AI Hardware: A New Era
    Types of AI Hardware
    - [4:37] CPUs
    - [5:43] GPUs
    - [6:56] FPGAs
    - [7:37] ASICs
    Types of Architectures
    - [8:00] Systolic Arrays and Google TPU
    - [9:21] CGRAs
    - [10:45] Parallel Pipeline / Dataflow
    The AI Hardware Startup Market
    - [12:04] Current investment levels
    - [13:36] ‪@SambaNovaSystems‬ Cardinal SN10/SN30
    - [14:13] ‪@CerebrasSystems‬ Wafer Scale Engine
    - [15:36] ‪@Graphcore‬ IPU and Bow
    - [17:11] Honorable Mentions: ‪@GroqInc‬ , Lightmatter , Rain, Tachyum
    Conclusions
    - [18:00] How to Scale
    - [19:12] ‪@tenstorrentinc‬ CTO Jim Keller Quote
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  • @TechTechPotato
    @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Are there any AI hardware companies, particularly startups, that I'm missing here? Preferably where I can track their funding on Crunchbase :) I already need to add in Achronix for example...

    • @Nobe_Oddy
      @Nobe_Oddy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe you could talk about the future of photonics sometime in the future... you mentioned Lightmatters 'optical computing' and I wondered if that was the same as photonics.... no matter, this is blowing my mind lol

    • @bdrmrstark4055
      @bdrmrstark4055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey … just watch you on LTT your issue is a windows update! Literally had the same issue random blue screens every soo often and then all of a sudden black screen after login page with the same error opening explorer or any windows settings.
      You can fix it by removing the latest update via CMD. Hope this helps!

    • @min-seokkim8106
      @min-seokkim8106 ปีที่แล้ว

      You may want to take a look at FuriosaAI - they have consistently been performing well MLPerf benchmarks

  • @billykotsos4642
    @billykotsos4642 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Amazing summary ! this channel is such a gem !

  • @petehall1900
    @petehall1900 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    When a 20 minute video creates hours and days of follow-up learning for hardware noobs like me

    • @TechTechPotato
      @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've got a fun series of videos coming in the new year on similar lines :)

  • @MarkHeaps-iu9si
    @MarkHeaps-iu9si ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for the brief mention of Groq (th-cam.com/users/groqinc). We hope we can chat more with you this coming year and start talking about our next-gen product solution.

  • @TheGrizz485
    @TheGrizz485 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Id like to know about AMDs AI engine in phoenix point made by Xilinx . also interested to compare it with intel's VPU m2 card.

  • @alpha007org
    @alpha007org ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was the best AI Industry overview presentation.

  • @nicolaspena2061
    @nicolaspena2061 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very well put together. Congrats! And loving little Ian in the corner 🙂

  • @ianhailey
    @ianhailey ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good roundup, look forward to the next one.

  • @TeamTeddy666
    @TeamTeddy666 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just saw LTTs video where you were having a black screen after login, and I was coming over here to say that I had the EXACT same thing happen after a windows update, and I figured out my issue was due to a program called OldNewExplorer I believe? Basically anything that directly modifies the Windows shell causes this after an update. I had to open run (WIN + R) and type "control" then uninstall it and restart. Fixed my issue, you should check and see if there's anything installed that seems like it could be a problem. Not even sure if you're still having this issue since Linus' videos are uploaded weeks later.

    • @TechTechPotato
      @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah I fixed it about a week later. Installed CCleaner and opened Task Manager to run it, uninstalled about 50 non-vital apps. It now boots every time.

  • @Morimea
    @Morimea ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow!
    amazing video! thanks!
    very surprised to see something like this on youtube

  • @MagDag_
    @MagDag_ ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you! Very interesting!

  • @wilwan01
    @wilwan01 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nitpicking - CGRA stands for Coarse-Grained Reconfigurable Architecture

  • @ttb1513
    @ttb1513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Ian, what is the name of your video on "roadmap for semiconductors to 2036"?
    I found the one on IBM and quantum computing, and you listed that one as a related video (shown in below the "chapters" of this video).
    Great, great content. Making it easier to find videos on good topics like the roadmap to 2036 will only help your channel grow. I’ll be interested to see how much it grows in the coming years.

    • @ttb1513
      @ttb1513 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah. Perhaps never mind? I googled instead of TH-cam searching and I see that the video is probably "How we get down to 0.2nm". I already had added that video to my watch later queue.

    • @TechTechPotato
      @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      yup that's the one! It should have come up as a card in the video

  • @KeinNiemand
    @KeinNiemand ปีที่แล้ว

    Despite all these AI hardware startups, AI hardware is still domiated by nvida at least for application like large languate model (GPT) or image generation most if not all of those are trained and run on nvidia stuff (A100s)

  • @eccentricbeliever7
    @eccentricbeliever7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Deliver a talk on AI hardware ... tick
    Pester Linus on LTT ... tick
    It's been a good day

  • @shouldb.studying4670
    @shouldb.studying4670 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality

  • @musamba101
    @musamba101 ปีที่แล้ว

    I predicted years ago that AI will be available via interface nodes for a fee. Such hardware could hardly be for free (unless they find a way to use adverts the way they do on the internet to make it "freely" available to the public; but that is a long term prospect).

  • @Veptis
    @Veptis 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I feel like I have heard this talk before, at least parts of it. The recent upload where you held it in London?
    If there were a better solution than just buying the nvidia RTX 6000 Ada (short of a H100 PCIe) to run large model inference in a local workstation... AMD has some workstation cards with a lot of vram now. Intel has Gaudi2 as well as PVC - but don't sell either to workstation, they aren't in that market at all.
    Also why spend 6000€ on a large GPU just for model inference that sleeps 98% of the time, especially if your Gaming GPU costs maybe 250€.
    I hope some of these products make it to consumer workstation soon - because all products currently sold as "ai accelerators" are from 5 years ago and for tiny computer vision models. not 30B language models.

  • @monstercameron
    @monstercameron ปีที่แล้ว

    Mythic was a big loss, I reckon it was the most interesting Interference start up out there. The promise of high output and low power could have been a winner.

  • @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt
    @Speak_Out_and_Remove_All_Doubt ปีที่แล้ว

    I would invest in anything Jim Keller (aka Miles Dyson!) is involved in.

  • @steveschiets8031
    @steveschiets8031 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you guys also look at photonics? I follow a company in very late development stage, polymer photonics (LWLG) 3 times the speed with 1/10 of the power. Please check it out

    • @TechTechPotato
      @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ayar Labs, Lightmatter. Though photonics compute vs photonics networking are two different fields.

  • @lorabex791
    @lorabex791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damn i wish i could put some money into those companies.

    • @cyberguy3694
      @cyberguy3694 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actually you can. There is secondary market operated by few platforms like forgeglobal, equityzen, equitybee etc.. where employees of some of these companies sell their stocks. So technically you can be part of their wonderful growth.

    • @lorabex791
      @lorabex791 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cyberguy3694 even if you are a non american person?

    • @cyberguy3694
      @cyberguy3694 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lorabex791 Not entirely sure about that. But I have seen the option for international investors as well. You can enquire with equityzen as they are one of the more popular platform for such transactions

  • @orlovskyconsultinggbr2849
    @orlovskyconsultinggbr2849 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was a lot of info, but in my opnion power of AI still in cloud , not in a particular hardware vendor

    • @TechTechPotato
      @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว

      Every smartphone has dedicated AI processing in it these days.

    • @orlovskyconsultinggbr2849
      @orlovskyconsultinggbr2849 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TechTechPotato right a processing , but the core. Distributed computing rules.

  • @radicalrodriguez5912
    @radicalrodriguez5912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You don’t really believe Tachyum is onto something, do you?

    • @TechTechPotato
      @TechTechPotato  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Their 2022 architecture is a big departure from the 2018 one announced ages ago. It could work. I've got a video on it on the channel with the Chips and Cheese crew.

    • @radicalrodriguez5912
      @radicalrodriguez5912 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TechTechPotatoI’ll check it out.
      A little heads-up, Graphcore’s WoW tech increased frequency by 40%

  • @BobbyQ
    @BobbyQ ปีที่แล้ว

    This year will mark mass consolidation or end of most of these AI startups, since they will struggle to raise money and ballooned their valuations at covid peak. Now wants someone to hold the bag. Dark times ahead.

  • @linmal2242
    @linmal2242 ปีที่แล้ว

    You forgot to mention the Akida family of chips and IP from Brainchip which are extremely energy efficient! Maybe you could interview the Founder Peter Van Der Made or other company people at CES 2023?

  • @christopherbeddoe406
    @christopherbeddoe406 ปีที่แล้ว

    $10 Billion... 😳
    🤔 have you heard of my AI Startup. 😏

  • @venkybabu8140
    @venkybabu8140 ปีที่แล้ว

    New products will always be there. Best is to wait and watch. Money loses value depending on production power. In fact the world has excess than shortages. Sales is where they make goofing. Loss in some products because of timing is way out of time of release. Even if it is worth billions it is out of reach for some. People always look for cheaper items except companies which need them.

  • @nisetsu
    @nisetsu ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Startups don't matter, they only exist to try to scare one of the big players into buying them.

    • @ttb1513
      @ttb1513 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. You’ll see true innovation from these startups. But yeah, bigger companies will likely but some. But not because the startup scared them into buying them. Because they came up with something useful. Startups matter!

  • @newtuber7414
    @newtuber7414 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Who giving loans

  • @danmar007
    @danmar007 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everything is worth nothing until someone puts a price on it. Wow! Maybe I should be an economist. 🤣

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe YOU should be an advocate for AI laws that limit it's uses and ethics... Or at least get the ball rolling.. we have ALL seen the scary stories and now it actually seems like it's ABSOLUTELY possible with all these amazing advances in just the past 5 years....
    You could bring the world together to begin the SERIOUS discussions about the implications of unbridled advancement. Think about it Doc :)

    • @itzhexen0
      @itzhexen0 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lol laws. I'd like to see them enforce them.

  • @Nobody-yo4qm
    @Nobody-yo4qm ปีที่แล้ว

    first