Thank God I Looked at the Contract Moments
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Not me but my parents looked over their Will again and discovered that somehow their church was supposed to inherit their house and they don't remember doing this. Thankfully they got that fixed.
Lol damn
I've heard this before where a church tricked an old lady with dementia to give them all her money and none to her kids. Thankfully the change wasn't legal but that's really gross.
Holy shit, how is that possible
@Cody Brock to be frank, any organization with power will be abused at some point. Same reason I never want religion in politics despite being religious; i can trust my faith but I can't trust humans abusing my faith with the backing of political power.
@chris williams The church forbids priests to marry solely because in the old days, when a father would leave his land to his son when he died, many priests were donating church property; and, the church didn't like that!
I briefly worked for a construction contractor after high school. He was irritated that the contract he'd gotten penalized him $10,000 for each day he was late in meeting the deadline. I glanced at the contract and saw there was another clause right after the penalty clause he was stressing over. This one said he would be awarded a bonus of $10,000 for every day he delivered prior to the contract's due date. So he hired an extra team and finished the project 10 days in advance.
He gave me 10% of that bonus as a finder's fee.
That is pretty much standard language in construction contracts in today’s work world.
My favorite was when a friend of mine took the contract home to read, took out a bunch of stuff he didn't like added in 1 years pay as severance and a bunch of other stuff like no lay offs. Got laid off sued for the severance. Judge asked them if they knew itbwas in there. They said we didn't read it after he told them he made changes judge laughed and said that's on you
Contracts should always be treated as if the other party is the offspring of The Devil and a Fair Folk. ALWAYS assume it's sinister and never assume it hasn't been messed with if it left your sight or changed in the slightest.
Contracts are like an agreement. The reason you can change them like that is because it's like negotiating your conditions. Reworking a contract is the equivalent of saying No, but I will under these conditions.
For example, say you want to buy a dog from a friend and offered $200, that's your initial offer, they then say no, I'll do $300. That then becomes the new contract. However, if you then you say, how about $100 and I'll pay for it's shots and your friend agrees, those are the agreed upon conditions of the verbal contract.
You can do the same with written contracts, and as long as the other party is aware of changes, it's enforceable. So when your friend wrote the no layoffs clause, and told them he made some changes, upon not turning it down and failing to read it, they just accepted the conditions as written. Since they agreed to those terms they are now obliged to uphold them.
@@CastroyPlaysFuncraft "Since they agreed to those terms they are now obliged to uphold them."
If it's something that can reasonably be expected in that kind of contract.
Had he written, for example, that after working there one month, he owns the place, then I'd expect the didn't read excuse would have worked.
@@gernottiefenbrunner172 Well it depends, but in this context the court would likely say that those terms are unconscionable and they wouldn't uphold the contract.
@@CastroyPlaysFuncraft That was an amazing way to put it.
“Can’t quit for two years.”
That’s not a problem really. If you don’t want to work for them then stop showing up, nothing they can do but fire you and that’s not covered under the contract.
refusing to show up without excuse counts as quitting in some places
Plus pretty sure contract or not that is not legal.
@@snailsofneonFat F for anyone who lives in an area like that.
@@MegaHalohunter Its not. Requiring reimbursement for training is, requiring reimbursement for wages isn't.
@@MegaHalohunter if there's no contact then employment is on a voluntary basis and can be terminated at any time, by either party, for any reason.
The deaf child field trip- When my son was 10 I had to sign a waiver. They were going to go for a walk at a nearby "botanical garden" and the contract said basically if he DIED I couldn't press charges. It literally said death. What is going on at a botanical garden!!??
Damn so did u go on the walk or nah?
@@chloemichelle4825 Yes, I chaperoned. I just stayed in the back in case someone thought about dying.
@@TK-ij2xi Lol
@@TK-ij2xi If it was the Botanical Gardens in Brisbane, Australia, there is a high possibility. Standing on a used syringe for example. Or snakes.
@@Kayenne54 LOL! Arizona...so pretty close!
We have rattlesnakes, coyotes, etc...but I've lived here my entire life & I've never seen a snake! Nor is a coyote very scary.
Dude that one that says if you
Quit within 2 years you have to pay back everything you EARNED, PLUS a penalty for having trained you? Fucking criminal
It is criminal, literally. At least in the U.S.
Yeah, that sounds super cereally illegal.
Simple solution: get fired
@@mikeycarrero6501 yeah, one thing a lot of people don't know is a contract isn't always binding. If a contract breaks the law, it is no longer binding, for example a NDA does not stop you from testifying in court. the one where he wasn't getting paid on jury duty im pretty sure is like this, as it is denying someone their job if they don't want to break the law
As someone who works in homeowners insurance, make sure you’re on the title. If her husband died in an accident or something, she’d have a hard time with proving the home was hers.
Yup. Like she said "i trust my husband, but my name better be on the title"
when I was a student i had a huge fight with my step father and decided to move out. I booked a viewing of a flat in student accommodation and hurriedly signed paperwork, it offered 6 month contracts and 12 month ones too, the longer the contract was the cheaper the rates were. The flat was tiny, like 5mx6m including a toilet with a shared living room and kitchen, 4 people shared. The contract had a clause where you could cancel within 24 hours if you wanted otherwise you were stuck for 6-12 months. I looked into the paperwork and calculated how much this move would cost me. It would have worked out £800 a month for a miniscule little pod with slovenly flatmates as the common areas were an absolute mess. I cancelled the contract with 3 hours to spare. I feel like I dodged a bullet lol
What country was this if I may ask?
@@stijn2472 Glasgow, Scotland
@@teelesynclair5902 Thank you for your reply. Wasn't expecting that. Were you able to find a more reasonable rent somewhere else?
@@stijn2472 I just stayed at home with my mum and step father. I was angry and acting rashly when I viewed the flat and signed the contract initially, I started panicking and realised that a dumb argument was gonna cost me big bucks if I didn't get out of the contract. Those student flats really shaft people, it's mainly overseas students who stay in them. I think they rely on the fact non locals don't know you can get cheaper if you look around, initially the student flat looks like a good deal cos Internet, heating and council tax is included but it's really not when you do the math :D
How do you make the spacing so small?
Be cautious of the rules of any contests of the arts (poetry, songwriting, painting). There tend to be clauses in the rules that state your submission becomes the contest runner's property.
Always copyright you material. No expense be spared when protecting your shit. ALWAYS read the FULL TERMS AND ENTIRE CONTRACT BEFORE ENTERING ANY CONTEST.
Like gameinformer
00p
Wattpad is a damn good example. I got an invitation from dreame, if I had accepted, I would have been copyright fucked
@ZB The companies make their contracts look good but in reality they just assume you wont go over them with a lawyer, or have peeps on the internets analyse it. Most of the companies end up stealing your stories from what I remember, akthough if you want a publishing contract done I recommend getting advice from a lawyer and not some dude on the internt who read what other dudes put on the internet.
had a work contract say "if you quit, you owe us a quitting fee of $500"
when it came time to move on, my demands became increasingly silly until they said "we no longer wish to work with you, also, because you're leaving you owe us $500"
to which i countered "i just read the contract again 5 mins ago, that clause only triggers if i quit, there is no clause if you no longer wish to work with me"
they tried to say "its in the spirit of the contract, so its covered if you quit too".
they didnt get $500 of spirit money.
Fucking Spirit money
I was going for a car loan, they told me I qualified. I was told it was a standard contract. Well, we'll I got my stronger readers. I read every word at least 3 times. I found that the 5% interest went from that to 264.9%. I said" Is this a typo or the life of the loan?" I got a calculator out and started doing math. I have them jump up and grab the contract say it was an error. Then, they came out, with the correct with the right interest, but late fees etc went way up the other cost went up from like phone pay went from $3.95 and up to 19.95. I left and bought a nicer leftover with a credit union loan cheaper and at a lower rate.
Oh I called the Sheriff's Office, they sent in a undercover team a few times different people. Then with an iron clad case arrested the lot and the place went out of business. The owner got fraud convictions and was told he had to serve them consecutively. This was back around 2000 - 2002
Holy crap. You dodged a huge bullet with that one. Good on you!
@@Emma.S. My folks always told me read every word of the contract. I am glad I never didn't read a contract, I have had stuff slipped in a few times, including repro traps when I was a kid in the 1970's.
Helping my dad get his citizenship, we looked at a lot of websites. Some legit looking sites at the very bottom fine print would say something like “not official US government website.”
And that’s why you always go to the government site. Lol. Surprised it’s not easy to find on Google.
@Seiyuan Lin well that last bit kind of makes sense. There are a lot of smaller gov departments that still have websites you know.
This happens a lot in the UK. If you Google say "renew my British passport" there are plenty of websites that will do the paperwork for you and charge you on top of the actual fee. They genuinely do what they advertise, so it isn't really a scam and they make sure your application is correct; they just make say £60 commission out of doing it for you
When I received my internship certificate, I had a bad feeling. My parents said that it was a good certificate when they read it but I looked up testimonial phrases and the result was extremely bad. I didn't know why my certificate would be so bad because I had a great time at my internship, my boss always telling me that I was doing a good job. But I also knew that I had the right to have my certificate changed if my boss smuggled bad things into it so I went to my boss and asked about it. Turned out my boss was really inexperienced at writing internship certificates. I got every phrase changed I wanted and received my much better internship certificate shortly afterwards.
Mine was more of a positive spin on this, though we did get a tad annoyed at one point. My fiancé and I bought a house a couple months ago, and one of the pages had a list titled "items passing with property", which consisted of essentially all the furniture in the house at the viewing. We weren't sure what that meant, so we asked the real estate agent, he didn't know; asked our conveyancer, she didn't know either but she called the seller's conveyancer and found out from them: we got to keep all that furniture, it was included in the price of the house. Sweet, no problem, deal done, right? The annoying part came when we got the call saying the seller had agreed to our offer, and that they wanted to know if we would like to buy any of the furniture in the house? We pointed to the contract and said that's our furniture, you already sold it to us. They looked at the contract again and agreed, THEN ASKED IF WE WANTED THEM TO MOVE ANY OF IT FOR US. Like no thanks, we can move our own furniture, your offer to move OUR furniture FOR US just came across as an attempt to get permission to take it. We're not unreasonable, if they'd come to us and said "hey, we didn't mean to include all that furniture in the contract, would we be able to get some of it back?" we probably would have been willing to come to some sort of compromise, maybe keeping just the table and giving them everything else. But no, they picked a route that came across like a dirty trick instead, so we kept most of it, gave a couple things away and tossed the last bit. This is why you read everything you sign before you sign it, even if you're the one who had it drawn up in the first place!
Lol just listened to where they said everything was free but the shipping and read terms and agreements. My had something like happen once. Mom ordered a moon shaped night light off a web site where they said it free all except the shipping which $5.99 after reading the terms and conditions thoroughly to make sure it was real taking a screen shot or something of them, note this later, and bought nothing else from them. Later gets told her bank account is over drafted because that company took out an extra $40 for a life time membership to their company without my mothers permission or knowledge. My mother called and screamed at them. First they tried to tell her it was advertisment, it was not, then they tried to tell her it was the terms and conditions, it was not of course and she had picture of the terms conditions which she then had me look through and read to the person as well absolutely nothing about it in there. Finally they literally went oh it's just $40 it's not that big of a deal and you'll get lifetime membership company xxxxx. At that point my mother completely snapped and told the person if they didn't give her
Sorry hit something on accident and didn't get to finish writing. If they didn't give her money back and pay the overdraft fee immediately she was going to contact my aunt, who a lawyer, and the better business Bureau and report them for fraud. They sent it back immediately, paid the fee and still sent my mom the night light. Long story short don't try and scam my mom you will regret it.
If you ever save a comment by accident or realise you made a mistake you can usually edit it to correct it. For my app it’s the three vertical dots next to your comment, it might look different on other apps or online but it’s super useful.
@@Hi-wp3xy Don’t mess with a well-connected angry mother
When I went to IKEA to get a Cinnamon bun but it said *not actual size*.
Bullet dodged
Nathan Vigniavo well I mean their cinnamon buns aren’t that bad imo. a bit small though
>:(
Pain 😔
That puts me in spain without the s
I needed a gigantic loan to pay for a property that I wanted and the bank was stuck with. Because the bank was stuck they gave me a very attractive deal for interest. They gave me the contract. I didn't read it, but one of my employees did read it. The deal was to be re-evaluated after two years and it said that if approved the bank "may" continue the loan. My employee advised the bank that the contract "must" renew the loan provided all payments had been made on time. Employee got a raise.
If you aren’t getting paid why would you ever sign anything? What are they gonna do replace you with one of the many people who are waiting for the opportunity to work for free.
Why Yes Joe
There are just so many Competent,Trained people that are eager to work for free,
didn't you know that ?
Joke
Signing a contract when voluntarily giving your time is a standard practice. If there was no contract there is nothing saying you were accepting a job without pay and could be argued in court. Also depending on the job you may have laws you have to follow (like HIPAA) and without a contract there is no proof the employee/volunteer was made aware and that can go REALLY bad for the employer. A contract is supposed to protect both parties from legal issues.
@@werefrogofassyria6609 you didn't pay attention to the second half of my comment. Just because there is no consideration doesn't mean you don't have to abide by the contract you sign. If you volunteer in a research program and sign an NDA you are still legally bound. It's the same concept. If they are smart any big company would be sure to have ALL employees, volunteers, students, etc sign a contract that lays ground rules for working with them. It's common practice and lack of payment (consideration) does not just automatically make the contract void. If that was the case a whole lot of businesses would go under without people honoring NDAs (which are legally binding contracts)...
For spectrum and other ISPs, if they try to raise your rates, call and say you want to cancel your service. They'll start throwing discounts and upgrades at you to keep you around and you can usually leave with a much better service package for less money than you had originally
Then they come to your door, begging you to return.
When I first started my first job at 18 I ws asked to sign the paperwork. Wanting to read through it first the mediator left me for half an hour. I'm a slow reader so she offered to go through it with me to speed things up. It worked out but was a very risky thing on my part. Yeah don't do this and take your time. Better safe than sorry.
This happened to my dad: He was a Crew Chief for the, at the time, biggest Airline in my country, and one of the biggest worldwide. It ended in bankruptcy, and without them receiving their paychecks (14 years later they still haven't recieved it. My mom was also a flight attendant at the same company. Both of them worked over a decade on the company) But we'll fast forward. My dad was then unemployed, with 2 kids. He tried applying for the second airline, which had a questionable safety record, and lo and behold, when he went for the application, there was written on a Blackboard the 10 mottos of the company. The first one wrote "NOTHING is above profit". Seeing that on a major airline was baffling enough, so my dad quit on the spot. He ended up going for the third airline, a low-cost, whose motto was "Safety above all else". He's working there ever since.
Tv talent/singing shows own your soul when you sign their contracts. I once saw a contract say if you win you must pay back a million dollars to the show with in the first year. To cover costs of singing lessons, advertising, travel, etc. Plus a percentage of your earnings for the rest of the year. In another tv show the contract wanted passwords to all your social media accounts, and emails. They also said no-one (not even your grandmother) is allowed to take your photo without their permission.
Samantha Peters that would be fun for some one like me who has WAY to much time. I’d send them like 59 letters a day asking for permission to take the picture.
Similar to Kpop idolsss
I did some research on the slavery contained in TV talent show contracts. Confirmed much of the worst stuff. I also discovered that said shows and their parent firms employ paid shills to spin, attack, and/or have removed anything touching upon the truth above. These shows are a trap for most "contestants."
The mobile company Three texted me with an offer for a broadband contract. I considered looking at the details later.
Opened up TH-cam app on my phone to listen to while I’m cleaning, and this video is the first one I see!
never sign up for any service/product over the phone when they've cold called you, unless you've researched the company well, and it is what you were looking for, and someone is getting back to you on the matter...Otherwise, it's a scam.
@@Kayenne54 Three is a pretty well known company in the UK, so this isn't just a cold call from some no-name. But in general, you have to read your phone contracts with a fine-toothed comb to make sure your carrier isn't screwing you over.
a quote from a fan-story comes to mind:
"if simply reading the contract makes the other person nervous, you can be sure it contains something you won't like."
ps: it was a modeling contract...
Yeahhhh, that sounds more shady than Slim himself
"It didn't make sense to me that just because you're working on a church's lighting and audio, that you also have to be the same religion as your workplace."
Completely agree. My friend got hired to work at my Catholic church as the organist for the choir. I'm a Catholic and she's a non-practicing Buddhist, she was welcomed with open arms.
November 5, 2020 I was to have major back surgery to install steel rods half way up my lower spine on both sides to allow me to walk again more than 50 feet. I was at Largo Medical and Surgery Center in Largo Florida. During check in they handed me an apple work pad with a prewritten contract on it for check in and just told me to electronically sign. I asked what it was and was told it was so they could operate on me in the morning and "was just the standard stuff everyone signs" I told them I would read it first. (I used to work in a law office there nothing that is just the standard contract you just sign. On the 5th paragraph it said I agreed to allow them to "USE ANY NON FDA APPROVED DRUGS OR OUTSIDE MIXED COMPOUNDS" and on Paragraph 7 it said that"AGREE TO ALLOW THE SURGERY TO BE FILMED AND USED AS THEY SAW FIT"....yea right. When I refused to sign because they would not be allowed to use wither of those paragraphs I was informed I would have to leave then! That the contract was written by their lawyers and that is the standard contract that they use in all 62 hospitals. I asked for a hard copy so I could line out the paragraphs I would not allow to happen and they told me they could only have me sign electronically. BS I then asked for a hard copy to have MY LAWYER REVIEW IT. After spending 45 minutes with "supervisors" I finally got a paper copy and was again told to leave since I refused to sign their computer copy and I would not be operated on...WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE DONE? How many people read contracts be it from a doctor, or a car purchase? You would be very interested in seeing what is in them, most people with a lick of sense would never sign. Other just go along and figure that it is OK otherwise why would they want you to sign...here is why ...they have written the contracts to protect themselves NOT YOU
not approved drugs really is a problem, never allow stuff like that. the part that said they would film it ,i dont know, but could become a problem for you , so i would not sign that.
Unapproved drugs sounds kind of illegal.
@@builtontherockhomestead9390 they ARE illegal. They're the drugs that circumvent FDA approvals, which usually means that the FDA haven't deemed them "safe."
@9:20 “You’re lucky it’s only $50. When I started working here, Mr. Krabs Made me pay $100!”
18:55 if you modify it then sign and they also sign after it becomes binding
Almost had my rights stolen when I almost didn’t look at the terms and service for a mobile game. Crazy experience
What
Senior aged friend was being billed for dumb apps that auto downloaded if you even looked at their site once. He didn't even know he had half of them on his cell phone...Just scams. P.S. These apps hitchhiked via his telco provider. Eventually that Telco got into a load of trouble from the Consumer watchdog association and that rubbish was stopped. (obviously Telco was taking some profit from this scam).
@@Kayenne54 Of course they got a cut.
@Kayenne54
I was joking but ok
@@ml1272 had to be Raid: Shadow Legends
I had a repeat client for a company worked at, order was around 10k euros costs.
Like every other year they did, they sent the same design for parts to be manufactured, quantity was always the same, but they worried about price changes, as minor services here and there can change over years.
Like every year they sent over a contract for the batch for security reasons.
Attached to the contract were the designs the contract was talking about, something caught my eye, the design was very slightly different.
If I would not have noticed it, the whole manufactured batch would have been thrown out as you couldn't undo a few of the steps in that production, and the small company would have been in the red by a very large sum.
We ended up arguing about this difference and why we weren't notified beforehand, and why the pricing doesn't fit anymore.
We lost a good client, but avoided a huge mistake.
70%: to do with housing and rent
25%: to do with work contracts
5%: general online purchases
We know who have the worst morals
Have you seen the housing market? Bet your ass that they're the ones who become demons when they pass lol
Almost signed a short term lease where the landlord could "increase the rent by any amount for any reason without notifying the tenant" or something like that. In theory, it was to be able to cover excessive electric use or something, but it easily could have meant our rent tripled for no reason.
399 is _not_ overpriced for a 64gb iPhone, but are you fucking kidding me? _100 dollars to replace the sim card?_
Former cellphone salesman here, I've seen the cost to store on those things: 9 cents _Canadian._ Those guys are insane crooks.
I quit a school in China I was teaching at when I first moved to China. They owned a few companies and we found out they were using our photos for other companies advertising, I checked my contract and it said nothing about this. I told them I was not comfortable with this since I wouldn’t know what it’s being used for. They created a new contract.. this went on several times as I and other employees kept refusing to sing it due to how it was worded. I swear they saw me as the ringleader and started treating my like crap because of this. So I quit right after I got paid and ended up taking a few of their students with me when I left
I agree with the animal shelter having a contract.....its to protect the animals from being given over to someone who will abuse or neglect it....so many people get dogs for bad reason, like using them as bait dogs or they could be animal hoarders......so many people will get an animal and they shouldn't even be allowed to have an living creature in their care!!!!
*a living creature
Having years of volunteering experience, I’ve seen many pets come back for a number of reasons, most of them completely reasonable (dog didn’t get along with their other pets, didn’t fit their lifestyle and they felt they couldn’t give it what it needed (such as too active, too hyper, etc.) all fair reasons to give the animal a better chance with someone else).
That being said, the bit about letting law enforcement enter your home sounds like a bit much.
It’s good when shelters keep their adopted pets on the radar to see how they’re doing, though. I think it would be irresponsible to do otherwise.
Some of the clauses in that contract were unreasonable, though. Some animal shelters are a bit too choosy, and cause animals to miss out on good homes as a result. There is an animal shelter in my town that is constantly whining about how they can't adopt out any cats... It's because they expect your house to meet rediculous standards that nobody's house meets...
it can't be near a busy street even if you don't plan on ever letting your cat out...
all your windows have to have screens even if you never open them,
there is a huge list of other requirements to adopt from them and many many of them are unreasonable and rediculous, so nobody CAN adopt a cat, because nobody meets those standards.
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 Yeah, there's definitely gotta be a balance
@@angrynoodletwentyfive6463 They have to lower their standards
Didn't realize contracts for phones were so prevalent but my brother got a new phone on contract that included a huge lump sum to cancel it within the 3 year plan.
Only a fool buys a phone on a contract, they're designed to rip people off.
Depends on your country. In Germany some student phone contracts are quite good, probably because they hope that people stay with the company as an adult. I always do the math between getting a new phone with and without contract and til now the contract has always been the better option
I live in the country. Until a few years ago AT&T was the only option, no other carriers had towers out here. I tried just getting a GoPhone but those phones are cheap quality and the crappy antenna couldn't get a decent enough signal. In order to get a better phone I had to sign up with a 2 year contract. Thankfully AT&T bought out Cricket, which has ok phones. Cricket has no contracts.
Renaissance Faires are RARELY paid gigs unless you are an actual stage act. However, even if you had signed, it is unenforceable as there is no "consideration" given to you in exchange.
I usually change my own oil in my vehicles. 1 winter about 2 years ago I didnt feel like crawling under it so I went to walmart. Manager working handed me a paper and said sign here. Was just about to sign when i saw in fine print "you will not hold us liable for any damage" I was like excuse me? So you forget to put oil in or dont fully tighten the drain plug and cost me thousands worth of damage, you wont pay to repair it? I dont friggin think so
You can always cross out parts of a contract and initial. A contract is an agreement between two parties and you absolutely have a say-so.
I used to work for a company that had me sign a contract saying that if there was ever any legal action between me and the company, that I agreed to absorb all legal costs of the company no matter what the verdict was. The only reason I signed it was because I knew that was incredibly illegal in my state and if there ever were any legal matters between us I'd pretty much automatically come out on top once a judge saw that clause.
I've heard of some HOAs including a similar clause...if you sue them you have to pay all their legal fees even if you win. Complete bullshit.
@@LC-uh8if Yeah it's completely unenforceable and any court would laugh them out of the room if they tried to bring it up. It's pretty much only put in there in the hopes it will scare people who don't know any better into keeping quiet about any unlawful actions they might experience.
14:24 that's illegal where I live. My country gets often accused of being over-regulated, but from my point of view we're just lucky to have a system that prevents us from getting screwed.
Something neat I looked up referring to contracts and crossing parts out before signing.
What you have been presented with is an offer; by signing it unamended you accept the other party's offer and create a legally binding contract.
If you amend it and sign it you have made a counter-offer that is now open for the other party to accept. There is no contract until they do.
Two points to remember:
Making a counter-offer ends the original offer: it is no longer open to you to accept the original offer.
Offers may be accepted by actions: if you make a (counter-)offer and the other party acts like they have accepted it (e.g. by doing the things the contract would require of them) then it is likely that the offer has been accepted and a contract formed. Many disputes lie along this path
If I lose something, I will be billed to replace it! The nerve of those people!
Not the issue. Its you are charged more for the replacement than its worth. If you could buy a replacement for 200 they shouldn't be able to charge you 300. O had that for a cheap work phone. It cost 100 to buy it no plan no discount sim car included,, but the contact tried to say 250 to get a replacement plus 75 for a simcard. That's bullshit
updoot is the goat of these reddit stories channels
Radio TTS
^absolutely
Talk about milking something dry holy f^ck there’s like 50 of them making shitty reposts
@@egg5474 tts is pretty dark tho
A famous contract stuff-up in Australia is when Lang Hancock, who was in mining, was given a contract to sign, read it & signed it. Some time later, the other party said the sunset clause had come into effect & so they were parting ways. He pointed out that their contract contained no sunset clause. He did very, very well out of that deal.
I try to read things before I sign and luckily most of my life it’s been stuff from doctors or other people who have in mind the best for me. But this fall I was looking into renting my first apartment. Emailing people on craigslist snd getting discouraged about how many people never answered. But one day a guy responds back. His place is in a premiere spot in the town I want, within my budget and requirements for apartment size. He replies back the next day, “give me your contact info so we can work out the lease” and all. He and his wife are on vacation or something and can’t meet in person. But when I reread the email he sent, I realized he was asking me to send him a check for $1300 “in order to get the key to the apartment”. He even had the audacity to tell me he was trusting me with the apartment. I realized it was a pretty bad idea to pay someone before I even saw the place and just never replied.
The only one I got is kind of lame. But I told my soon to be landlord I have cats and can I rent with them. He said sure. I got the lease and it said NO PETS.
Crossed that out, added FEINES ALLOWED (didn’t specify amount because I never told him the amount and hey, who knows I what might happen) and had the assistant initial it next mine.
Plus side to that, since pets weren’t originally allowed, I never paid a pet deposit either because it wasn’t in the lease. Just first ad last and security.
Still live there, almost 2 years now.
nice
They got the salary agreed wrong on the contract... Twice. Always read your contracts even if they're long af and made to bore you to death.
Assumption is the great friend of a contract that exploits you
4:22 I was told by both my real estate agent and a friend who is good with finances not to get floating rate mortgages because the amount of credit checks run before buying a house lowers your credit. So floating rate mortgages take advantage of this. Find places that let you lock in upon making your offer and any reputable mortgage company, bank, or credit union will allow you one complimentary rate reduction of a lower rate shows up. My husband and I locked in when mortgages were at an all time low. We never used our complimentary rate reduction because they never went lower. But a friend of mine put in an offer a month before me. And was able to get a significantly lower rate due to this complimentary reduction.
9:55 Spectrum is pretty nasty like that. AT&T also pulled a fast one on my family. A week or two before the end of our one-year promotional contract, we called to cancel this plan and change it to different plan so our next cable bill wouldn't double. Instead of scheduling to change the plan at the end of the billing period, AT&T cancelled the plan *immediately* mere days before the contract ends and charged us a hefty early termination fee.
10:50, What the lawyer AGAINST YOU was trying to make you do is SIGN ANYWAYS. If you sign something even if you don't like it then they can hold you to that, The common understanding is to say OK FIX IT THEN I WILL SIGN. since he REFUSED its clear they never planned on FIXING IT. and if you signed for 2% and it was a typo and supposed to be 4% you could refuse to pay the extra 2% because that's not the contract you signed. and YES if they change the contract you can make them uphold the one you like because they are not allowed to REVISE a contract without you signing the new one to agree to it. THAT IS ILLEGAL.
The moment I didn't: I was selling a house on land deed contract, 5 year contract. Was told by realtor over the timeframe, I'd essentially break even. He had the monthly amount they'd pay, and said plus they'd pay taxes and insurance separate. This was all of our verbal understanding. We had an amortization table and everything, so that at the end of 5 years, they'd get a mortgage on the property and mine would be paid off. We sat down with attorney, just said "anyone have questions, we all understand how this goes". "Yep, OK". They showed me page 5 which had a paragraph stating the buyers are to pay separate the taxes and insurance over 5 years. However, the third line of the contract that had the amount per month they were to pay stated all was included. I didn't notice this. Lawyer told me I was screwed and he felt bad but since that sentence is toward the beginning and more specific (idk how it was more specific since an entire paragraph was in agreement with me) that the judge would probably toss it out. By the time they got to finance the home in their name and my mortgage was to get paid off, I had to pay 38,000 out of pocket to cover the difference between what they owed and what I owed on my mortgage. I did it but was so mad about it. I was lied to and screwed. And they got a cheap house.
BTW it was my fault that I didn't notice, however, I was taken advantage of because this was the result of a sudden divorce and I was extremely stressed and not at all in the right headspace, so I wasn't thinking clearly; the realtor was able to take advantage of that and press me into the agreement. In hindsight, I should have just rented it out for a few years and sold and I would have probably made 50 grand on the property.
Man, FUCK THAT. If you were already getting a divorce, you should have had the lawyer look at the contract. You're already paying for the services.
I was applying for a job at Build-A-Bear years ago and at the end of the application, along with the whole "I have not lied on this application, if they find out I did they can fire me" was also a line saying if I was selected I would work for them for at least a year. That seemed a big red flag about turnover and I instead trashed the application.
Mine fits; hunted for an apartment across my city that would be suitable for myself, gf, and two friends (very few options that work for a group that size). Lucked out on a brand new townhouse rental with three bdrms for $650/mth (back in 2007), utilities not included but for that price who cares?? Go in to sign the contract, check the rental amount (correct) and notice that water is included. I actually pointed it out to the agent who said 'looks right to me' so I shrug, sign, and off we go. 2 months later get a ring from the agency asking me to come in and sign a new lease, water shouldn't have been included. I say no thanks, they don't press, we stay in that place for nearly 4 years without paying a dime for water.
There problem when they put something like that in the lease by accident.
This just terrifies me about getting a job for the first time.
Not sure about the details, but this is my dad's story.
He's the least favourite child of my grandfather.
When dividing up his properties, he told my dad he'll be getting 3.03 acres of property.
He signed all the papers, and my mum was casually reading the documents. And she found out that it mentioned 0.03 acre in pen, and corrected with a pencil that it's 3.03
On confrontation, my grandpa admitted that he didn't want to give any of the property to my dad. So he tried this trick...
The training cost thing can be reasonable if you get a qualification that is worth something elsewhere too. For instance, I'm about to start Air Traffic Controller training with my nation's state monopoly of civilian aeronautical navigation services. Should I survive the training I will be awarded a Diploma of Aviation (Air Traffic Control). I will then owe them ~US$55K in my nation's currency that falls incrementally to $0 after 5 years (at least I think it's 5, can't be bothered digging through my contract to check) should I leave prior to the 5 year mark. This is to prevent me finishing training and then immediately getting a better paying job in the UAE with minimal retraining. My training is capital and labour intensive and I would be able to make use of it with a foreign employer so I don't mind owing them for the training.
However, if you're not getting at least a nationally recognised Diploma, that's BS.
My favorite contract bit is simplicity itself: post-it notes & a red pen. When I get to a part that I don't understand due to excessive legalese, I simply ask the lawyer who wrote it up what it means in English. I cross out the legalese stuff with the red pen & on the post it note write what s/he told me it means. I attach the post it to either that part of the contract, or somehow refer to said part in said post it notes when I attach them to the end of the contract. I do this for EVERY SINGLE THING I don't understand. If things are on the up & up, they should have zero issue after all.
I was going to move into assisted living. The manager kept telling me that rent would be 1/3 of my income. Time to sign the papers, 1st paper, the 1/3 rent. 2nd paper 1/3 for food, as they cook those horrible hospital meals. Then they tell me they also get 1/3 of my income for Medicare/Medcaid. I will be left with $62 a month. Won't even cover my car insurance and phoneI stop right then. Walked out the door, while they're trying to tell me I won't be able to get anyplace else, as they had sent me through the hosing process. Ended up at a regular senior apartment that much nicer and less that 1/3 my income. Fortunately I had got on their waiting list 2 years before. The assisted living only had a 3 month wait and too many people dying. It also took numerous phone calls and visits to get my deposit back. Originally I had to move, as Bank America stole my house. I talked with an attorney and he wouldn't handle my case, as I didn't have the money. But the had just saved the houses of 15 families in Missouri. Seems Bank America hadn't written the mortgages properly.
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Yeah, this was the moment when I new Radioshack was going down, when this, and a few other little articles appeared in the service plans people could buy on products. Before that point, they'd cover a lot of stuff on phones and devices, including one time where a guy's dog had torn the thing to shreds. Better, the DM at the time literally told us to not mention the whole, this is basically unusable thing to customers. I went from around 20-30 plans a week to 0 as I refused to sell something worthless. The only reason they didn't fire me? I went from being the best salesman in the store, to in the district around the same time, as people trusted me. Like, I mean I had at least 2 couples state that they drove 30 mins to come talk to me. That felt really good on the old ego.
It's sad, but honesty is often discouraged in the corporate world these days because it can cut into profits, and if something goes wrong rather than owning up they're faster to point a finger at someone else than a pack of dogs will dive on a toppled buffet table. For some strange reason having staff that possess a strong personality of honesty, morality, and dignity seems to absolutely terrify the people in charge. This is befuddling since if customers KNOW that a business and the ones that work for it can be trusted they will often (as was the case with you) go out of their way to shop with them instead of someone that has a place right down the road.
the act of god thing is like that simpsons episode
"Don't worry Reverend, according to your policy your church is covered for everything but acts of God."
"But we believe everything that happens everywhere is an act of God"
"My jiminy, you're right! We're off the hook!"
I'm a freelance writer. Client sent me their 'standard' terms to sign. Several pages of legal speak. Buried way down in there was a section giving them the right to identify me as the author of anything, now and forever, no matter if I had written it, no matter if they had paid me anything for it. I politely pointed out that hiring me to write 5 SEO blog posts does not equate to the right to use my identity in perpetuity and they actually agreed and said they had just sent me whatever their legal team had given them, without reading it first. No idea if that's true but they crossed out that section and we had a long and happy working relationship.
5:49 so much BS from Sprint. we quit them. they keep going bankrupt--wonder why.
Warning: Make sure you check EACH copy of a contract. Don't get stung by the Three-Contract Monty. Three-contract Monty is where the top copy of a contract has all of the correct information so you sign it and the two or three "copies" below it on the clipboard. Turns out later that the the "copies" had different terms.
Embassy Suites got me years ago like this for meals on a conference I hosted. I checked the contract, signed it, and then was hit the day of the conference with over a thousand dollars in extra meal costs. I KNEW the contract I signed included the full cost of the meals, yet, upon inspection, my "copy" of the contract did not. I couldn't figure it out at first, and then a few months later it hit me: The contracts below the top one were different and I had been had. Embassy Suites never got my business again.
The key is the clipboard, or some other method of concealing the changed-up contracts. Check and recheck everything. Also, if they don't have you initial each specific key term, be suspicious.
My brother is a successful high level salesman. He sold a software program to a company for like $1 million. Gets a check from their legal dept. for like $400K. On the back, in tiny lettering, was an agreement that cashing that check agreed that it was for payment in full. He took it to his accounting dept. & said, "Whatever you do, DON'T cash this check!"
Ohh Ive a good one.... we almost bought an apartment in France. It was a new build. It turned out we wernt buin direct form the developer it was being fliped. The agency had their own translator to help us.
We got a weird vide and refused to sign until we had a night to think about it. We also speak Spanish so we pretended we needed help with that.
In France there is initially a 7 day cooling off period when buying property ( there are several deadlines in fact)
We decided to take the contract to another lawer who took one look and told us RUN !! The way it was written was the apartment wasnt built yet and the owner had paid 50k so far to the developer..... we were going to pay 150k to the owner but only take over the contract meaning we STILL owe the developer the balance owed on the apartment.!!!
Also the 7 day cool off wasnt in the contract as it wasnt a property purchase but a contract purchase.
Man did we have fun absolutely ripping the real estate agent a new one.
Reminds me of this episode of Gumball where Rocky is signing a paper and he said "Uhhh, it says here I'm signing away all my Hope's and dreams?"
2 things that happened with Spectrum:
1. My bill was increased by $5 way after my promotional period. Called CS and they told me to cancel if I didn't like it. (In my area, they are sadly the best deal)
2. We got a DMCA temp ban and we called to try to figure out wtf happened. The rep didn't want to do his job and muted his mic and waited for us to hang up. We stayed on the line for 45 minutes, listening to him unmute to see if we were still there despite us talking the whole time. My boyfriend was a supervisor at a call center and knows all the tricks. Rep hung up on us. We called back and got the sweetest woman in the entire world and got an answer immediately. Loved her. She told us that reps do get pinged for call lengths. And that the first red didn't even look up our account so we couldn't report it to Spectrum. But his supervisor at the center will still see it. What a pos. I get it, call centers suck. But just quit dude.
The landlord wanting the renter to pay insurance makes me unreasonably angry. Literally the entire function of a landlord is to be rich and foot unexpected bills, in exchange for you making them steadily richer.
But only when its a Landlord who owns multiple houses etc.
Friend of my father owned one small flat he lived himself for a couple of years and then rented it out and after everything paid he had just like 100€ left per month from the rent.
He sold the flat for 30000€ 2 years ago (he paid back in the 90s like 20k Deutsche Mark DM) so he actually made some money.
When I purchased my home, I requested the realtor include the washer and dryer in the deal. She somehow made it so that I was getting the washer and dryer, but not the oven and refrigerator. I wanted them all. Good thing I looked lol
Heh, employment contract was laying claims on any and all IP I'd produce during my employment there.
I was signing up for a metal workshop job. I was also doing creative writing as a hobby that had a bit of money coming in. Nothing much but enough that it padded the income some. Had it struck just to prevent any messing about with it in possible future.
If I promise not to complain anymore if you use the same ending sometimes, will you put back the endings where they had funny promises and weird pictures and you told us to subscribe or don't but have a great day you magnificent people? I miss that so much. It was the number one thing that made this channel better than similar channels.
The one about foot races and marathons.
My understanding is that if you cross out anything on a legal document in an attempt to nullify that clause it needs to be initialed by both parties to be binding.
The caption on the thumbnail is pure hilarious!
Every job I’ve had in the USA, has been “willful employment” or some shit. Means I can be fired for any time for any reason whatsoever, I can also leave at any time for any reason whatsoever. Fuck a two week notice if I’m done with a shitty job
Lot of jobs hold your severance hostage if you don’t put in proper notice, almost happened when I quit my previous job, executive director tried intimidating me saying my two week notice wasn’t two weeks so I wouldn’t get my PTO Paid out. I pulled out a Calender and counted the days out loud for her while pointing to each day.
She looked so pissed when she knew I was right, and couldn’t do anything so she just muttered “so it is...”
My parents once rented a small car in a supermarket event. It included a monthly 40€ coupon for said supermarket. My parents thought the rental price was ok and thought the 40€ coupon on top of that was really good. My 10yo ass read the offer in detail and found out that the base price was the said price plus 40€, so you payed 40€ monthly for a 40€ coupon, that you had to spend in said supermarket. To be fair, my dad has been using that car to get to work every day for nearly 5 years now, so that car was a fair investment. But every time I hear my parents talk about what a bargain that was, I have to remember them about this one
It’s sad every time I see European countries with so much paid time off / paternity & maternity leave. Doesn’t really work like that in the US, unfortunately.
Used to work at the VA, got orders (2004) recalling me to active duty with assignment to Afghanistan. My supervisor called me into her office, shoved a bunch of papers toward me saying "you need to sign before you leave..." Just above the signature line:
"By signing this document I understand my position will not be held for me."
I said I didn't have this when I got recalled to active duty last year.
Backpedal...backpedal my boss says she must have wrong info, blah, blah.
I'm a disabled veteran working at the VA and my boss is trying to trick me out of a job.
I am now terrified of contracts.
My mom asked me to take a look at her insurance policy, I am not a lawyer, so I don’t know what she expected I would find.
In the end though, what I did find was that her insurance had somehow, for some completely incomprehensible reason, added her ex-husband‘s ex-wife to my mothers insurance policy. 🤦♂️
At first they tried to tell her that they could only return the premiums for the last couple years, anything further back was too old. She said that since she was 100% certain that she never gave them permission to add the bitch to her insurance, their options were to present all of her records and give her a refund going back to whenever she was added, or she could talk to an attorney about suing them for defrauding her.
They coughed up the money. 🤣
I'd like to see them try to explain why anyone would add an ex's ex-spouse to a judge?
@@builtontherockhomestead9390 Yea, my guess, though I don't recall if I was proven right, is that they never removed the ex from *his* insurance as that's where he'd been insured before.
When my mom married him, they were insured together for a time, and when they divorced my mom stayed with the same company and I'm thinking they only removed him from the policy and didn't pay attention to the anomalous extra person on the policy.
You'd be surprised how often homeowners are not aware of the difference between the loan/note, and the title.
We start to get into real trouble when we learn to sign our names. Read. Read. Read. And, if necessary, hire a lawyer to read and interpret in the case of real estate, cars, and membership, timeshare, etc. Lawyers are expensive so it's often wise to write down what you want from the lawyer and your budget and time limit for the result.
I love the spectrum one. he eventually got sent to the retention group and they gave him 15$ off and by the same time next year the same thing will happen all over again.
I did that for years and finally, they said no, this is the price. I am moving in a few weeks and I will be taking my two cable boxes in and cancelling the TV package and keeping internet, of course, they will be bumping up the internet price. I can get 29 OTA TV channels. Which is plenty since I rarely watch that garbage.
Yes! Always read your contract especially if you're dealing with a business. Landlord, corporation, even written contracts with family and friends ❤. It will save you both time and money 💰 🤑.
the first guy should’ve reported them anyway
I like the posts made here
The one about crossing out stuff in liability waivers such as the statements about not holding whatever organization liable, is completely legal, it's called a counter offer and if the person accepts your altered contract then it is completely binding in a court of law.
That's retarded. I could just cross out whatever I didn't like after you signed it and then claim you okayed it. It has your signature after all. Reprinting the damn thing would work if they sign it.
My mom keeps getting charged for a yard company she doesn’t want. They keep coming without her telling them, and then they charge her. She’s made a few phone calls about this but they keep on coming.
Take them to small claims court. Or go to the county courthouse and ask the receptionists where to go to get help. Or go to a lawyer and ask how much it is for a cease and desist letter. The lawyer can tell you if you need to do anything else.
Contracts are spooky. One misinterpreted thing and you get shafted. *edit* that first one sucks. Gross.
I had the Charter/Spectrum thing happen, but was essentially told they don't care when I fought it the same way. They are the only game in town for the speeds they have, and they know it...
I'm on disability and have United healthcare and during covid they tried to get me to have an electronic drs appointment, in the contract turns out a physical was part of it and I would've been agreeing and was obligated to take naked pictures of myself and email them along with photos of my passport and IDs front and back! United Healthcare is the WORST!!! they've screwed me over in HORRIBLE ways. I may have signed it without reading if I didn't mistrust them so deeply. They were really pushing for me to do it, calling me over and over.
Non compete agreements do not hold up in court very well. Judges do not like enforcing them, mostly non competes are gentlemens agreements between companies, but they actually have to uphold them.
Eh, the reasonable ones usually do OK in court from what I have read: "do not work for a direct rival within the immediate area for a certain period."
The problem is that many NDAs are absolutely ridiculous: "Don't work for anyone in the state/country that has any connection to the field including, but not limited to: materials supply, manufacturing, sales, or maintenance of the product for a period of 20 years." Essentially stating that after working there you have to completely switch professions, or leave the country to get work.
The second type almost always get tossed out in court, while the first are generally upheld.
You should do a road rage one
I never understood how anyone could sign something without reading through it.
When you download an app or make an account do you always read the terms of service?
@@TheGreenTH-camr No but I also don't put my actual signature on it.
@@plmokm33 doesn't matter you still agree to it
@@TheGreenTH-camr There's a difference between agreeing to something that waives liability and tells you NOT to do things with the app, and signing something that outlines something that you have to do.
Also, there's a level of plausible deniability because they can't really prove that YOU agreed to it.
Signed a $50k contract to move and work for a company. Had to stay for two years or pay back the amount. Got fired a year and a half in for some stupid crap and they tried to make me pay the full amount back. Went back through the contract and found they had to provide at least a weeks notice with cause before termination, never heard back from them.
I applied for a security job. Told to fill in the ten page application contract and sign it. I crossed out a third of it. Realised he was not about to give me a copy and he hadn't seen the cross out's nor my; signature, contacts, address. Two minutes into the much delayed interview, I left.
I do security 👮🏻♂️ & I've seen firms, posts(post orders) with some wild stuff, improper acts. Most say you can be fired or let go for any cause or reason. Some say specific things you are expected to do but if you read it, it's a NO. ➡️ 1 client expected guards to intervene on employee fights, violent acts. Uhhh no, sworn LE 🚔 are called & they deal with criminal investigations. That's how it works. My state regulates the private security industry & clearly says security D, are not police officers.
I worked for a big company that had one of those membership buy club deals. Back when cellphones were new, one company offered a free cellphone. So I called. The guy asks for my credit card number. I asked, "Why do you need my credit card number to send me a free phone?" "I can't answer that, sir."
thanks now i’m panicking that my soul is gonna be taken from me because i signed something and didn’t look at it
"My lawyer said 'Oh, that's just a typo. Go ahead and sign now, and we'll correct it next week."
Nope, and time to get a new lawyer. They're either an idiot, or have a conflict of interest.