The Controversial Edit of Drag Race Season 15
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We're now officially mid-way through Season 15 of RuPaul's Drag Race, and after one of the biggest scandals the show has had, it was announced 60 minute episodes will be coming later in March. But with arguably the most important episodes all cut short, how has it affected the edit of the show?
Today we'll break down the edit so far, comparing it to another 40-minute season to see just how bad it is. We'll take edgic, confessional count, and storylines into consideration as we attempt to solve the mystery behind the controversial edit of Drag Race season 15.
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Girl, if you watching it on MTV, you’re only getting half the story
This made me cackle out loud so ugly
LMAOOOO
True😄
Where's the other half of the story then?
@@Luchabul Roscoe's
MTV grossly underestimated how much people actually care about the queens and it not just a TV/reality show for people. Not JUST the Top 6 matter or are good at drag.
@sparksparkleVH1 was the gig, hate to say it 🤷🏿♀️
Yeah, tbh no matter if they go home first or go home with the crown, we end up caring about all of them, flaws & all. We see them as human beings, unlike most production companies & ish, that’s their problem.
About Anetra, queens have been saying she even got more time in the edit then they expected because she was VERY quiet in person.
Mistress said at Rascoe’s people who aren’t getting screen time were just boring in person 🫢💀
@Oto Okay but even if that WEREN'T true, that still sounds like some funny shit Mistress would say. 😂😂
that makes her even more intimidating 😂
This further proves a winner doesn't need to be loud all the time urgh the power she holds
willow pill is also veryy quiet but she got a GOOOD edit because of the episode length
i knew the editing was a problem when even my mom got upset about it. she's not as entrenched in the drag race fandom and analyses as i am so she doesn't normally pick up on weird editing or storylines or anything, but she is very upset about not getting to watch the judges deliberate (it was her favorite part of the show and of most competition-based reality shows).
Same with my mom!!!
my dad noticed too haha
Literally the same with my dad. When he started complaining about the edit, I knew it was BAD bad💀
My mom was so sad we didn’t get to see all the queens preparing for snatch game
The most legit proof, the parents have caught on
I said it in other videos, and I'm saying it here: This channel change was a DISASTER. For everyone. And here, it shows it was a disaster for the editors, who suddenly had to shrink an edit with LESS time than if they had known it was 40 minutes from the start. I'm just so mad. Cutting down time when you have more queens? MTV just didn't give a crap about the queens. Mistreatment FROM MTV of EVERYONE should be the next video!
Yes I don’t want my MTV. What absolute trash decision making.
Everyone is furious with MTV - I suspect that includes the producers. I just can't figure out what they were thinking. I can understand the concept of trying to make a "Queer TV Destination Night!", but you don't do that by taking a beloved, ESTABLISHED show and cut it so damn short that many of the runway review fan videos are getting to be *longer than the actual episode itself*. And normally I wouldn't be here for these extra long reviews from fans, but honestly the queens are getting more screen time from fan reviews than they are in the show - *especially* with regard to their runways. The queens spend literally THOUSANDS of dollars on those runways, they work very, very hard on those pieces and they are being seen for an average of 7-13 seconds, depending on what metric you're using (13 is counting the critiques and the group scenes / camera pans, 7 seconds seems to reflect just the runway and the group view when *all* of the queens are on the stage before critiques), so I'm totally cool with a fan show keeping the runway outfits up for a few minutes each.
I mean the only reason its bad at the moment is due to WeHo, and thats going.
i hope they didn’t sign any contracts. we’re so far into this season and it feels like nothing has happened yet
@@pembrokelove like, you want to make a "destination night" but can't cut a rerun of Ridiculousness to make it three hours. If I were the one making the plan, it wouldve been Weho to lead into full length Drag Race as the main event and Untucked as the cool down.
I think a part of the pacing and editing problems are caused by season 15 being filmed as if it was going to be 90 minutes. Back in the older seasons, they knew going into filming that the episodes would only be 40 minutes and filmed with that knowledge in mind. They were able to get in judges' deliberations, Rumail, storylines, all in 40 minutes because they knew how to be concise. They also paced the challenges in accordance with this time limit: challenges that focused more on group performances than individual ones were placed earlier so they didn't have to juggle as many queens individually in the edit at once.
Nowadays, challenges like Snatch Game, the ball, improv, branding, etc (all individual-heavy challenges) come much earlier in the season than they used to since they expect to have more time to devote to them. But season 15 got neutered by MTV and thus they were stuck with editing down these massive, time-consuming challenges into 40 minutes.
90 minute episodes??? When have they had 90 min ones? Or was it a typo for 60/1hr
@@Zimzum93 I think the show has had a 90-minute episodes from season 10 on. Untucked was attached to the main, hour-long show. But it was presented as as 90 minutes all together.
@Dan the Slurper Got it, thanks for explaining!
i also think a huge aspect is that their editors aren’t used to creating storylines in a shorter time frame sk they’re still editing like it was a longer episode
I bought the season on Amazon and am still holding out hope that they're going to give us "expanded content" when the season ends, or even one of those old-school "countdown to the crown" episodes. I loved those episodes. Fight me. 😂😂😂
Anywhoodle, I really hope they do something with all the extra filmed content - the mini challenges, the walk throughs, and ESPECIALLY the judge's private deliberations.
Loosey being quiet these last two episodes? Girl, she's been the face of the delusional edit.
She bitched and moaned about not winning like twice that's it
Which sucks because they literally started out by setting her up to be this season's Jinkx, Ginger, or Ben DeLacreme: the super campy, comedy Queen who can't dance but can act and sing. Just to... completely cut her out of the acting challenge edit.
@@blakegillpuente3904 I think she is that just not enough time to show us more of that
@@abanda51765 Agreed! They really fucked up cutting these episodes down so much.
I wonder if she was actually meant to get a more complex edit had we seen more of what’s happening each week. I’ve been liking what I see of hers, but yeah the delusional edit is going hard. Someone has to stir the pot though.
I’m kinda happy that Luxx isn’t really getting the delusional edit anymore though cause I feel like people come for the POC even harder when they get that edit.
literally the only confessional i remember of poppy's is "fuck you irene" LMAO
This season is just so awkward and uncomfortable to watch, kinda like Vanjie on The Pit Stop. It feels like MTV thought they were Sasha Belle and had “cracked the code” as well only to see the fans revolt almost immediately. It’s very sad to see a once great drag competition evolve into a pageant of who can spend the most on expensive fashion grad couture and SoundCloud music production. Drag as an art form in the U.S. just feels so homogenized and commodified for what seems like the sole purpose of getting on a TV show to market Ru’s chocolates and cocktails and helping her win awards and buy more land to frack. That said, I honestly enjoy all of the queens this season and wish they had been treated better by MTV. I hope they all ‘All About Eve’ RuPaul.
👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
To think, all of this could've been avoided if MTV just cut half an hour off the constant reruns of Ridiculousness
Seriously. I was shocked when I looked at their schedule. Is the show even that popular?
They have NOTHING else! What in the ocean are they doing with the scheduling!?
i heard somewhere that they have a very strange contract
Blame Rob. He’s an EXTREMELY smart business man and basically contend his way into that many reruns on MTV.
@@gromplin Oh yeah Rob is an absolutely great business man. Shame that MTV just couldn't cut something off for that one singular night for Drag Race.
They really need to re-release the early episodes with the full edits. Like I would pay for that.
8:22 The 25 confessionals is kinda hilariously low, when you consider the record for confessionals in a single episode (Excluding Untucked, where it's tied), is Jasmine Kennedie getting 22 confessionals in 1 episode.
This means this episode, EVERYONE got 3 more confessionals total, than JUST Jasmine did in the episode where she got the most confessionals in S14.
I feel like the queen I attached the most to was Irene, she went home first but her story arc was COMPLETE thanks to the full length premier episodes.
In the older seasons they had 45 mins and they still managed to have mini challenges and deliberations so I don’t understand why we aren’t getting hardly any of that now.
My biggest problem with the pacing has been that even with 40 minutes they’re trying to squeeze a tragedy mirror in every episode so there’s literally no time for any fun werkroom antics, anything that isn’t runway or challenge is sad and it’s giving me sad story burnout 😭
The fact that in Surivor logic nearly half of the queens could be considered to have the "purple" edit seems really wild to me.
i feel like the return of 60mins episode is gonna highlight a huge discrepancy from queens who will be forgotten about, versus the queens who will be recalled (and most of them will probably be the top 6 that got a favourable edit from the start)
60 minutes honey. 90mins would be 1 and a half hours
@@Zimzum93 it says 60mins wdym
@@Zimzum93 Think they mean 60 minutes without commercials
The amount of queens hidden in the Snatch Game edit made me sad.
This whole exercise makes me wonder about the producer changes behind the scenes. It seems like in earlier seasons, there were producers who were really good interviewers, yielding to lots of confessional moments. And in this season the confessionals have just kind of been there.
I think a big problem is the show’s just gotten so rehearsed and so overproduced. The queens are so focused on the competition and win win win win that they basically become little drag queen robots. Like pull a string and a catchphrase comes out. You miss the small little improvised fun silly moments with the queens.
this!
Ok but the way they edited the Lipsync Lalaparuza was INFURIATING. Sasha was giving the entire universe its life and building to crescendos in her performance and every time she was about to throw a completing move the camera cut away from her. It was bizarre.
I hope Bussy Queen does a video that includes her reactions to this, since she's always doing these kinds of analyses. Love to see this kind of content!
Her video went up yesterday I believe
Bussy is the original math queen.
"She says some things sometimes."
Quote for the Season
I think that now the show is more focused in giving some queens the "See you in All stars" edit, to all of those who are having more screen time, but at the same time you don't see them as winners of the season, like we had in the past with Alyssa Edwards, Katya, Detox, when they are the narrators with some bitchy moments.
Salina is clearly having the Miss congeniality edit. So yep, they're just trying tooooooo hard with the storylines of some, forgetting all about others.
6:29 in this season you don't want a confessional. From episode 1-2 with our poor Irene, it seems like the more they talk to you, the more likely that your ass is going home. 😂😂
I'm actually currently re-watching season 7 atm because my partner had never seen the earlier seasons before, we're now up to season 7 and at the same time we are also watching season 15 as it airs. I noticed the run times were the same but season 7 just feels way more coherent and less choppy than season 15. I think 15 only being 40 mins could have worked out fine if the drag race team knew that before going in to film this season.
they almost ignored COMPLETELY sasha on snatch game
I’m guessing there’s no TH-cam exclusive material because MTV would see that as competition for their wannabe old school cable viewing block.
The difference between seasons 1-8 being 40 minutes and season 15 being 40 minutes is that 1-8 were FILMED SPECIFICALLY for 40 minutes. They knew their run time, they knew that they had to process and trim things down to get the edit they needed whilst still having everything that made Drag Race what it was during those eras. Whether they did a good job of that or not is up to everyone's perspective but there is very much a glaring difference between them and season 15.
Season 15 though just doesn't work in that formula, simply because the show is different. The format is different, how they portray the queens and their storylines has completely changed, the personas the producers give the queens is not the same as it was. It just doesn't work with what the show tries to produce anymore. And with everything they've tried to cram into their biggest cast ever, we've lost some of the classic Drag Race montras. Hardly ever any Ru walk ins, no judges deliberation, no "bring back my girls". Like DD said, we've been given the longer format for 5 years now and it doesn't feel good having things taken away from us that we've had for years.
The biggest crime is that MTV has done everything in it's power to sacrifice the cast of season 15 in every way possible. Even down to miniscle things like when they region restricted the Drag Race youtube channel, months of videos disappearing and no one outside of the US being able to watch the Pit Stop for 1 day. MTV screwed up everything.
Also “older” Drag Race seasons were removed from Netflix globally, there’s only the 11, 12 and 13 left. Netflix is the reason why RPDR has become so popular across the globe (very smart move btw). My friends already waited a year for the new season to get uploaded on Netflix. They don’t bother looking for the episodes online 🏴☠️🏴☠️ A lot of people are just going to drop the series.
I've been talking about this specific comparison for ages and i think a large part of why the edit of this season (and even more recent seasons) feels so weird and makes the season feel hollow is because the producers realized we liked certain archetypes of queens (the comedy ones that are adept at everything, the fashion ones, the acrobats, the actors, the baby queens still figuring themselves out) that they tried to cast queens that checked as many of those boxes as possible. so many of the queens on s15 overlap popular archetypes to the point where on a season like s7, theyd be automatic frontrunners. but because theyre so polished in terms of drag theres kind of no story to make with them. if we compare to season 7 storylines- they cant do the young vs old storyline because most of the cast are in their 20s and have been performing >6 years. they cant do the coming out of their shell storyline because everyone is pretty confident in who they are already. you cant poke at rivalries because the cast are relatively quiet and mature this season (possibly due to fear of backlash). you cant even do a busted drag to queen storyline because everyone's makeup and outfits are technically perfect and theyve just sort of resorted to picking at marcia for having an established brand and aesthetic. the result is a feeling of production being the ones to manipulate the egoes of the queens and drive conflict instead of the queens being the ones to create the storylines by being themselves and production capitalizing on it. it makes me feel like drag race has seen they can put out something perfect but no longer wishes to put in the effort towards it. thats just a speculation. a Drag Race Speculation. thank you for reading,
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the way robin and poppy have the same number of confessionals
Thank you for your math skills. Mine suck so I’ll just trust yours check out. 😂 I agree with what you said. It’s weird about Marcia X3 because she seems to have a lot of talent and yet we see so little of her. And all the things they do show just make it look like she’s bragging about what she can do. I wish we could see more of WHO THEY ARE and not just meaningless statements like “I wanna win this challenge!”
I think, for us fans, we wait all year to see a new batch of girls and we want to see it all. It could be a two hour show and I’d love it. For me Drag Race is the only show that I watch as it airs, so I love the longer episodes.
We need the judges edit next!
I wonder how much of these changes are due to poor story production, following the passing of Jacqueline Wilson in 2019. You and others have noted how weird the storytelling has been on the last few seasons. To me this seems like a general quality control issue as the series ages and they lose the team that made things so memorable before.
This is why I love season 12, I feel like every queen would get a check mark, I even grew to love the early outs like Nicki and Rockem!
If it weren’t for like you said, outside content, and for me untucked, I would have zero attachment to anyone competing. Which is very disappointing for the level of talent they all have. Not everyone watches outside content either so it is heartbreaking all around
Until you mentioned her I completely forgot Poppy was on this season
What an amazing video! I really apreciate you analyzing the differences between this season and what is a similar season in time and cast size. Season 7 is one of my personal favorite seasons, so I it was nice to hear that there is reason for that in the way that even with a limited episode length, they were able to highlight the queens and tell a story.
It so weird to see episode go presentation of the challenge to runway/elimination. I remember the ball episode when we didn't even saw the candidate sewing ? it was like "it's a ball - runway presentation" It's sad to see a lot of queens being fade away like we got Sasha introduce as a big name but we never see her ? The twins got 70% of the screentime of the firsts episode and it was kinda annoying, I hope they will go back to the old formula, cause we can't really know the queens, we barely know her on this season because the goofy moment on the workroom are removed, it's weird
Another thing I have noticed is the lack of twists and “long term plot line” in comparison to S14. S14 we got the chocolate bar, the drag god, the “flopped snatch game” followed by the lalaparuza, double shantay, double sashay etc. S14 may be an extreme case on over-production, but at least stuff happened, there was a storyline outside drama depending on the queens. In S15, I don’t remember any twists to shake things up (if I had known I would praise over-production last year…). I don’t know where the plot is going. There’s a challenge, we barely have enough content to judge performances, and then a lip sync. I can tell Sasha and Mistress will be in the final, but I don’t know about the others based on the edit.
Having the biggest cast with the shortest episode time was a disaster in the making from the go :/ I don't get how anyone let that slide like it was a good time
now i wanna know which is the episode with the least confessionals ever in drag race and which one is the one with the most
I hope now that MTV says we are getting the 90 minute episodes again soon that we get the OG cuts of the previously aired episodes 😭🥺🙏🏼
Tbh you’re right with regards to social media following. Out of all the seasons I do follow the least amount of girls from s15 and it’s only because I don’t know anything about them and/or they haven’t truly STOOD OUT as the one to watch. It just seems so superficial. Which is a shame. The only girls I follow are Sasha, Spice, Sugar and it’s only because I knew them prior to the show.
So I suppose Mistress is winning this season, the rest if the the front runners are nowhere to be found and we cannot have a winner we know nothing about
That’s my pick as well, but it could be a red herring to “cover” Sasha being the winner and Mistress the runner-up. But my tinfoil theory is Sasha was secretly a judge all along and will pick the last girl for the final (kind of like that BeBe theory in AS3). It would be a gag but it’s very unlikely. Also so far we haven’t had any twist… 🌚
@@JinMeowsoon I think she's there to compete but I can see her in a couple of all stars going back along with Kerri and take that crown. She went to season 15 with a huge hype but I don't know pretty much nothing for her to be relatable. It might fabricated for a plus size queen to win but honestly I ain't mad about it cause it could have been Mistress or Eureka for all these years (maybe Ginger and Silky but idk)
Send this to MTV studios and Ms Paul right now 🗣️🗣️🗣️
Great point about adding more YT contents. I feel bad for the queens sacrificing so much but not getting a lot.
king, you deserve a ring light at this point
Season 15 episode 9 is weird... You can see very easily what's been cut out... Half conversations, the judges debates.... It's strange
Marcia x3’s edit hurts me so much. She has a unique drag that’s so Brady Bunch meets Ariana Grande meets Legally Blonde like c’monnn
Her makeup is good AS IS they did not have to come for her drag saying her makeup isn’t drag enough. Her makeup IS ***HER*** DRAG.
I would’ve loved the judges pushing Marcia x3 to be MORE campy and funny, what she already excels at!! She could be the Broadway QUEEN..!!! Missed opportunity.
I don't know if they have new editors, but it feels like the editors now aren't really sure how to edit these episodes for fourty minutes.
the thing that's most interesting to me about the switch *back* to hour long air times is that that's what logo always did, and it was fierce! And I haven't regularly watched drag race since season 9 so coming back to see season 15, which was the same length episodes as I was always used to was JARRING. And that's why I think your hypothesis is wrong, because having gone from how I remember seasons 5-10 to how it's felt watching 15, everything about this season just feels so rushed and inconsistent. Not to mention the coverage is so sparse, like I remember Princess Poppy showing up at the start of the second episode and literally having no clue who she was!!
Whereas logo actually gave air time to every queen, showed drama and heart to hearts in the werk room, did full mini challenges, showed the judges critiques, had more confessionals, and still fit in the whole main challenge and runway!! And there was a clear storyline for each season! I don't know who edits for MTV but they're doing a shit job. Clearly they aren't as talented as the Logo editors, and given that, they never should have shortened the episodes in the first place.
I'm hoping that them switching to 90 minute episodes later on will help but regardless, they need to take *serious* notes from the Logo editors because they were just so much better.
they cant show us the extra content because then the edit they are producing wont make sense/:
You forgot the other part of the question: if 40 min aren’t enough to know the queens/story, then where is that time going to? If you compared it to newer seasons and perhaps you found that by Ep 7 we still didn’t know enough about the queens/story despite the 1hr runtime, then perhaps that answers the bigger question
2:32 so you can skip the ad
i think MTV might also be in charge of the drag race YT which is why they might not be posting extra content. I heard that with season 15 the RPDR channel was country locked and everything
Hey so I know this is related to... nothing in this video... but can you please show us sometime what is the difference between Irish Green and Kelly Green in your sweaters. Do you have an example? I would like to get one of the Riggory sweaters for my birthday next month and green is my favorite color to wear... not my favorite color, but it looks super good on me lol. Anywhoodle (barked the poodle!), on the pictures below I cannot tell the difference, to the point that I'm wondering if they aren't both Kelly Green and mayhaps the Irish Green has been mis-labeled on the site.
If you don't have examples to show us in a short or something (I'll keep my eye out if you do one to show us), can you maybe describe the difference here? Like is the Irish Green a darker Forrest-y green or a lighter mint-y green; is it a blue-heavy or more of a yellow-heavy green?
Sorry to bother you. Idk if you even read all the comments - I know there's a lot sometimes!! - so I may tweet at you, too. I really love how you drew / decorated the Riggory text and just really want to order one. :)
Was just about to cover this! Production is out of their mind this season!!
Please add data analysis and research to your resume. This was honestly so good!
I was confused as to why Sharon Needles was I. The season 7 promo edit until I realized I'm an idiot and it's just Max.
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I hope the editors are getting paid extremely well for the obvious crunch.
3:51 most of the runways apparently lol
This season is definitely lacking in the confessionals and some story lines and what not, but to be fair this cast is amazing and I've been entertained the whole time, despite the shorter edits. These queens are some of the strongest cast we've ever seen (main season not All Stars) so I actually love Season 15, maybe we should stop the hate and just appreciate what they're serving
This is the first season I just outright was like I think I’ll be good. I just watch the clips of the good shit on TH-cam
I am suspicious that the winner of this season is planned. They might want the season 15 to be the first season in which a trans person wins Drag Race.
"You can't be following 200 drag queens" -hold my beer
THE DETECTIVE HAS ANOTHER CASE TO SOLVE I MEAN SLAY
I FULLY agree with you on this season. It feels rushed, I barely know any queens and just overall not satisfied with the editing. I hope next season they learn from these mistakes and take it back to the old school ways.
what i don't get is why wouldn't you focus on the early out queens in the first half of the season, then focus on the late game queens when there isn't as many girls?? you can still include them and feature them but it seems like there were a lot of fairer ways to distribute screentime that were not taken
I love your analysis, I love your channel. Sometimes when I feel like I am too obsessed with Drag Race you make me feel like I have a tribe. ☺
About the edit situation here, is it possible that maybe the problem is the queens themselves? Maybe they are self-editing. After all, Season 7 crucially was before AS2, and that was kind of a watershed moment for Drag Race. The amount of social media etc etc went way way up after that, and I think everyone was afraid of backlash and maybe being seen as a villain affecting bookings... What do you think?
Btw I hate the shorter episodes, more is better when it comes to RPDR.
Alt title: “Derrick Does Math.”
I think a more interesting comparison would be season 5 and season 15. Season 5 was still the golden age. And especially the first episode of S5 was PACKED but the pacing was great and we learned a lot about the cast. That was the first episode I ever watched.
Episode one of Season 5 had all 14 entrances, the photoshoot mini-challenge, the lip-synch on top of the bus, the main-challenge, full runway, judges deliberating and the lip-synch... All that in 40 minutes. And they established Alaska's storyline of being overshadowed by Sharon, Coco vs Alyssa, Everyone vs Serena from the jump.
On Season 15 they can't do half of this with like 10 queens. Almost no storylines, no mini-challenge, very short runways, no judges deliberating. I really don't get it.
really great points, i for sure believe that the show and network should prop up and really showcase all the sides of every queen in the edit / on the show, the more queens that are successful the more it will only help the ruempire (haha) although i honestly hope we get a another RPDR live in vegas type of reality series again, reality shows of Drag Queens just being Drag Queens inside and outside of drag' & them being from RPDR will always just work, as well as naturally make for easier audience draw,
When I first saw Robin Fierce and jax, I was really excited to see what they do.....but didn't get that and very disappointed about it
Loved your video! I wish this was a voice over so we could see content displayed full screen 😊
Anetra is the silent winner of the season lmao
period
I'm sorry, I'll just come out and say it: They are giving Anetra the silent killer edit. It's Camden's edit from last season if you will. It's the "she's fierce but you'll never see her enough because we don't want you to like her better than Sasha", I can almost hear Ru saying "she's a professional" even without the judges deliberations. And Sasha is so obviously getting the winner edit...
Is this a calculated attempt to get the audience to watch or care about "Whatcha Packin?"
i was waiting for you to bring up marcia's makeup critique! that's her storyline!
We for real need a director’s cut of Season 15 on Paramount+ 🤨
I really enjoy your videos! These have become my go to on my drive to work to listen to and I always learn some tea! 😂❤
What you said at the last few minutes is so accurate. I feel this show should be an advertisement for the show, the queens, and drag, in general. To be honest, if I was a first time viewer (and not someone who's been watching since season 2), I'd problem not be too impressed, except for maybe the talent show and Lalaparuza.
Are we sure that Drag Race didn't know these episodes would be shorter? I've noticed that there's no rumail in the workroom and have any of the queen's talked about mini challenges being cut?
We need a Director's cut. I hope WOW is listening.
Loving your Food Network era! The footage of you cooking was great - Bobby Flay who? Best to you on your no fast food journey!
I think the main problem is older seasons were filmed with 40 minutes in mind. They could cut what wasn’t important in the moment. Season 15 they essentially had to just put something together that made sense. Like on season 10 it was awkward because there was so much new time given but they really didn’t give them enough things to fill it in. It’s why we heard so many things over and over.
i feel like with season 7 and older seasons if a queen doesn’t have as much screen time it more to do with a lack of like persona and an entertaining character (which isn’t on them it’s just how tv works) and now with season 15 even if a queen would make a really great tv character it’s cut down. i feel like the only queen i really know is mistress, who i love but i would like to know Any of the other queens too 😭
what kills me the most about the episodes being that short is how the editors probably had little to no time to make them 40min long. it's clearly they had already exported and delivered the final (90min) cut when MTV made the change. so they just cut and sped things up, not able to make a cohesive 40min narrative arc. they of course have the backup for the 90min episodes and MTV is dumb enough to not release it as a directors cut
Drag Race has changed so much, with it the editing, the queens, the fan expectations, etc. If they wanted to go back to 40 min, then would have had to go back to that past model entirely. I can’t believe they fucked this up so bad lol like it just feels rushed and ridiculous. Season 7 was awesome but like everything else was so different too
imma be honest i don't know anything about loosey, i thought her name was luci. I'd barely say luxx, we don't know anything about her specifically. like NOTHING, I've followed her for years so I know her a bit more possibly, i don't see any of that on screen
OR! The queens who aren’t getting time are just boring. Like mistres said.
I mean that makes so much sense imo. Why waste airtime. I’m sure theyre airing the good confessionals only and cutting the rest. This season isn’t bad at all lol
Yeah, this is a deflating season. Yeah, I agree the producers are doing too much artificial stuff. But it is (1) on MTV now, and one assumes they're opinionated & not clued in to the drag world like VH-1 was. And (2) MTV did that very destructive trim to 1 hour (so far; they'll go to 1.5 hour soon) + they've been selling ad time like crazy people, so we only really get about 33 minutes of show (vs the usual average of about 47 minutes) so all of this makes us not see & not care about many of the girls.
Season 7 is when they ruined Untucked
I can hardly even watch this season. Usually with drag race I watch the episodes right as they release, but the edit is too bad to be ignore. I feel bad for the queens, I hope they get a lot of them on All Stars for a real season.
My current unserious theory is that the producers knew that Sasha’s edit would be so strong if they included the entire 90 minute episode or bts.
DO A WHAT IF THE WINNER OF EACH LIPSYNC LOST INSTEAD OF WON AND FOR DOUBLE SHANTAYS DO AS DOUBLE SASHES INSTEAD
6:10 why those queens didn’t have any confessional on ep 2??? 👀
Ik this doesn't have much to do with this video but what if you did a what if like, what if mini challenges were main challenges, it could be for any season