Become a Channel Member! / @icedcoffeegaming Discord: / discord #fireemblem #fireemblemengage #feengage In this video I rank units based on how good they are on Eirika and Why.
I know I'm late to the party, but I personally believe Fogado is the best user of Erika. He is able to utilize the split offense with radiant bow, and able to quad with brave bow to keep the engage meter up. The extra movement plus bow enables him to always be in range of an enemy to keep Erika going. But maybe I'm biased because Fogado + Erika with speed +3 destroyed the final map. Wolf knights be damned
Framme for me is at least high B tier, I’ve ran her as a carry that punches dudes, she only needs speed +5 and flashing fist to double most enemies and can double faster enemies if given build + /one or two speed wings. Technically you can get the same result if you have another unit engage Erica and inherit lunar brace + gentility, but that is way more expensive than speed+5.
Don’t forgot that merrin has her really goofy magic base over Kagetsu. That high magic allows her with erikia (bravery+ in general) to get her to thresholds to ko endgame enemies with magic effective weapons ( Hurricane axe and radiant bow) in non magic classes at internal 35. Same kinda applies to Chloe with the difference being that she has good base with high magic growth while merrin has a high base and good growth (by this games standards since 25% doesn’t look good but it’s only 5% behinds Ivy and pandreo). So they both make better erikia users then Kagetsu. Chloe ends up with at maybe 1 magic over merrin assuming same level/ same magic growth class pathing but it’s normally the same. While merrin and Chloe have a 4-5 magic lead on him and the magic lead is more relevant here then the str for merrin at least. They have best magic after citrinne Ivy pandreo mauv veyle and Anna, and tons of spd too along with goodish bulk on both and str. And due to merrin beating every other stat (that isn’t hp) from Chloe I would also say she’s a better user then her too. But she also uses a ton of rings really well and I would rather inherit bravery+ which is why I give erikia to fogado who you pointed out as underrated. He’s so low investment and erikia really makes that the case. Like merrin he also has magic that’s just on the cusp of doing something but it’s lower then here’s so the extra help from erikia really gets him going so magic effective weapons get those late/endgame ko thresholds. Erikia gives him the power and he has the spd to chip a ton of enemies down a ton when engaged with Brave bow on a mount and kill wyverns and griffins with radiant bow. And thanks to being cav he gets the plus 50% damage on the engage attack and if he needs something dead then seiglinde. Love him
25 isn’t good by engage standards. A good growth as far as a character growth is a 40 percent. 30 is average you’ll need to put effort towards fixing it but nothing too expensive though just be in a good class for fixing strength like warrior or wyvern no biggie those are good anyway. Even Kagetsu wants a little might fixing. You should realistically be shooting for 50 percent total growth on important stats for your character if they are around long enough for those to matter. 30 percent strength on a personal growth means you want warrior or wyvern 40% probably means you have speed as a downside and want something like bow knight or wolf knight to help with that. There are no 50 percent strength growths but as far as magic Anna can make being in a non magic class and using a magic weapon work 50% seems to be the point where you no longer need any support for that growth for might on a growth unit.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 25% is pretty good for mage standards considering( which is what I’m referring too here) when your looking at that strong base she has. Bases plus growths are the big deal here and merrin has the great bases to rock her growths which get underrated, the average magic growth is lower then the average str growth in engage ( which is still not that high by how many other games would work compared to other stats). Merrin hits very easy benchmarks with erikia ( or bravery) Magic effective weapons which is what I was talking about. she does this without as much investment as someone like Anna. Same goes for fogado and citrinne (though her only talent is that huge nuke but she does it so easily lol). I don’t really get your point if I’m honest? The kings of classes in this game fix str/Magic like mage knight wyvern and warrior, though wolf knight which is further behind them bit well above most of the other classes not mentioned (other then griffin which is just great support) fixes str via dagger mt and as I mentioned effective weaponry with there huge spd. Which engage really rewards is those personal base stats. Someone like panette just doesn’t care about sod fixing in the slightest and just unga bunga str. Kagetsu wants that mix of str and spd while merrin is more versatile with also being able to use the very high mt magic physical catagory weapons like Hurricane as a wolf/wyvern or radiant bow as a warrior. Which is relevant to erikia as a emblem since bravery works on both physical and magic weapons to hit thresholds for late game that merrin and fogado do pretty damn well and easy with how jacked they are and speedy units being very good for erikia. Merrin and fogado already do the mixed attacker thing really well for really cheap compared to Anna’s investment
@@ultrose7379 25 is very bad for a total growth in magic. It’s fine for a character growth. I’m saying 45 to 50 is generally the mark you wanna shoot for when adding your character and class growth for relevant stats. For example Kagetsu likes being in wyvern since his strength is a bit low because of being in swordmaster and it gives him both good immediate strength and it reaches a good strength growth so he scales long term. His initial 30% + wyvern’s 20%. Likewise someone like etie needs speed but her strength growth is 40%. Basically any physical class provides a 10% strength growth so she’s just looking for speed and dex in her class primarily and bow knight works well for that without needing a second seal bringing her speed up to 1 below alcryst which is a negligible difference and also bringing her accuracy up. With someone like Lucina she can reach doubling benchmarks for some enemy types and one shot fliers with her strength so it brings her stat benchmarks to a favorable level. The best physical classes are just better for most units because might is a more common issue on physical units then speed. The units with high strength are the exception not the rule. But for those units for example Someone like Amber gets more out of griffon knight then wyvern ( even without considering staff acces) . With how high class growths are and how much lower character growths are there is much less of class a always being better then class b and more of X unit prefers option a y unit prefers option b because they aren’t fast enough to make use of option a but are strong enough to make use of option b. Just the classes that fix the most common issues perform better on average.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 your growth doesn’t matter as long as you reach your thresholds, in this case for getting the job done the 25%-30% magic growth works out just fine for merrin and fogado. I don’t get what your trying to add to this since I never even talked about the rest of that stuff. I don’t disagree on Kagetsu wanting wyvern but he has phenomenal bases compared to almost every unit in the game. It’s just swordmaster is a bad use of him since it’s just a bad class. I’m gonna disagree on Amber though, I don’t like him as a wyvern but he’s very good going the way of being a second panette and just nuking things as a warrior. Either for one shots or huge spd stuff, griffin Amber Doesn’t have the same rewards as focusing his huge str as other classes like warrior/wyvern do. Wolf knight is nice though since it has spd and can get some power from dagger forges
Keep in mind that the Braces only work on initiation, reducing their value heavily for tanks who want to enemy phase mostly. Gentility and Bravery still work on enemy phase, but I'd rather just inherit Gentility than dedicate the whole emblem to a slow tank who can't make great use of the rest of her kit. You can still heal once on player phase with Solar Brace, but then you won't have Gentility for enemy phase unless the unit is Engaged. Eirika isn't terrible on slow tanks, but there are better options for both.
I know i kinda late here but Ivy + Eirika 1 one of my best unit in 3 different run on maddening. Ofcourse she need speed fix so i gave her speed plus 5 + speedtaker and when her hit the speed to double consistently(her speed usally good after 2-3 armor or axe unit)with eirika she can tank and kill 2-3 sometime 4 unit per turn(enemy phase) pretty much everything except swordmaster corrupted( you can still do it, just feed speedtaker more) on chapter 18-23 when her hp is 90% or higher. And luckly eirika has lifesteal so that build is pretty self efficiency. I did test her on Roy - Ike - Hector - Soren - Eirika and Eirika is the best bet for her to enemy phase tank. Yeah, compare to Soren you can't heal on enemy phase but using Soren on Ivy meaning you loose gentility (-5 true dmg is huge) and some dmg when you on Brave mode. Plus you have to build up engage again to lifesteal when the engage time is down. And 1 thing make me curious it Sieglinde is 40 dmg on my Ivy when Engage which afsolutely insane. And i cant find anything to explain this
Etie D Tier LETS GO. Also I'm a huge believer in the Chloe Griffin Knight sword Eirika combo it's hard to think of a better Eirika user. Mag boost and bravery helps Levin sword and Lunar Brace fixes her somewhat low strength growths on the class only unit I consider to e somewhat equal is Nel or Zelestia but like if ur going turbo dlc you can just at that point give Chloe Weapon sync and she'll outperform those two with ease
I used Axe/Lance Wyvern Bouch on Eirika on my last run and he was extremely solid with a Brave Axe at one rounding enemies and could also enemy phase with a Spear weightlessly. With Speed+ he was able to double quite a lot of enemies, and those he couldn’t quad usually got destroyed by the two hits of the Brave Axe anyways. Being able to quad fairly reliably also means he can get Eirika engage back quickly to keep up Blue Skies on other units, though that’s not exclusive to him. There’s better users, but I would move him more towards the top of B if not low A.
What I’ve learned abt engage is that some characters are meant only for early game and some are meant for later on. Only a few are worth it all the way through
I'd argue Jean is D tier with Eirika. For him to benefit, you'd want to have him in a Carry build. Ignoring the usual "massive investment" reasoning around why he's not great, if you run Jean in a carry build and he doesn't have enough STR or MAG to consistently one round without Eirika I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong. If you build him to deal damage, he doesn't need damage fixing. If he's NOT dealing damage, he doesn't need Eirika.
Lapis can be A-tier on this on Wyvern, Griffin or Hero. She can go physical or Levin and use 2 range weps on Wyvern or Hero. She already has the speed, so Eirika damage fixes her and gives much needed bulk.
At the same level using their ideal EP weapons Timerra and Diamant have the same AS: 17. They also have the same speed growth and Diamant has a higher Bld growth.
She is very overrated. Fun unit, but that's all. She is mid, but with her trash avability she is unplayable if you don't want to sacrifice a good unit for her. At least things like Alfred got to shine in the early chapters, where there are really few good units anyway.
Timerra is one of the cursed four. The four characters with such abysmal performance that they drive people insane. "They can't actually be this bad, right? Yes. Yes, I'm missing something. I see it now. And so will they." Ect Fortunately, Anna seems to have caused a fatal seizure in anyone gripped by her terrible power.
Etie has a really high strength growth, if you feed her a few fliers every map she's usually on par to keep one shotting fliers which Alcryst can't idk why everyone thinks she's bad
A few fliers, there are literally no fliers on chapter 5 I believe. Alcryst does fine with the fliers on his join chapter since he has a better bow anyways.
I don't get why you're so hung up on keeping Etie a Sniper anc calling her "B-Tier". when you can Reclass her to a Warrior watch her performance skyrocket. Warrior gives her enough to Bld to carry Silver weapons, improves her Spd and doubles down on her Str. She's supposed to be a raw Atk monster, not a Crit Fisher. My Etie equipped with a Silver Bow+3 sits at 51 Atk, 26 BASE Spd and mroe Bld than she needs. She's been an ORKO monster for the vast majority of the game and I didn't even feed her any Energy Drops nor Speedwings. She is an amazing Unit as a Warrior and your refusal to try things out only calls the validity of these "guides" of yours into question, because you're actively giving people bad advice by relegating Etie to a "B-Tier" Unit when she can easily reach "S-Tier" with the proper setup, which you refuse to test. Sorry, but that's a thumbs down from me for spreading misinformation
Etie is C tier. And I say that as a big Etie lover (I use her on every run I do, and she is always one of my main carry with Lyn). Amber and Panette are just better, yes Etie is very very strong with Lyn, but Amber and Panette could litteraly do the same thing with even better stats. However, she is often trashed on this channel (like on the Lyn video, where she is C-tier while being one of the best Lyn user). But yeah she is never S tier haha. Panette and Amber are just better sadly. Also, I don't understand why peoples compare her to Alcryst, both are pretty bad but does very different things. EDIT : Also, I think Etie is not a very good Eirika user, but putting her bellow things like Bunet ? Really ? And on the same tier as Seadall????
Assuming no stat boosters and fixed growths: Etie promoted to warrior at level 10 and finishing at an internal level of 40 nets her about 38 strength, 23 dex, 26 spd and 11 bld. Compared to Panette at internal level of 40 (assuming she switches off berserker when she hits dex cap and stays warrior for the rest of the game) has 41 strength, 30 dex cap, 23 spd and 15 bld. Etie can use silver bow on warrior iirc which weighs 10. As far as her axe goes, Noatun is good because damage and weightless but mostly everything else weighs her down. Point is, Etie is good, especially on warrior so I agree with you. My personal favorite is to give her Lucina, which gives her dual assist, speed and dex, another Bow option, and Lucina is usually low competition in my play throughs (unless I’m doing a bonded shield run). Lyn is also a good option but that true for anyone and I’d rather run her on someone else (Celine, astra storm bot, etc.). Marth is also a good option to switch out with, though break defenses doesn’t really synergies with bows. With Lucina, an endgame warrior Etie gets 30 spd. Give her spd+5, and a tonic which puts her at 37, which lets Etie reliably double most enemies on endgame except sword masters, griffins, wyverns (35 iirc), and WKs. She meets the speed threshold and imo is statistically not bad and kinda good. Throw some favoritism aka speedwing and you got an Etie that is good. She shouldn’t struggle mid game because warrior is a pop off class and Lucina has great availability. Lyn, Sigurd, Leif (maybe?), and even Marth or Roy are good alternatives for warrior Etie too. Corrin too for longbow draconic hex and dreadful aura and a torrential roar that does actual damage. Probably wouldn’t use Eirika, Ike, or the other Emblems on her though. Tldr Etie is good especially on warrior
@@xde_ Etie is really outclassed by Amber tho. But I don't care personnaly I use Panette, Amber and Etie on the same team lol. Etie is good, she just suffer from competition. But if you use her you won't struggle at all yeah, she is a really good carry and I don't know why ICG make her look like she is unplayable. Also, using Amber, Etie and Panette in the same team is actually good since you can do something like : Etie!Lyn Warrior Panette!Ike Warrior with the classic Vantage+Wrath Amber!Roy Halb with a brave lance to one round everything with the halb passive, also Roy help durability with hold out
Etie is D- tier. She kills 2 pegasus, then goes home. She is better only than the characters you never use even on their forced chapters. I would not be shocked if goddamn Bunet or something was just better than her. I don't understand what hold this eldritch monstrosity has over people's brains. Literally unsalvageable without paying 30 dollars tier.
I think the only way you could make etie viable in a run is to turn her into a mage cannoneer. It took a while for her to pop off but I’ve found great result in using her on this class in maddening. Anything else you do on her won’t work lmao.
What does viable even mean. I think she is okay as niche flyer killer and low to medium chip dmg archer. Not great but still useable. You shouldn’t give her lyn but you could give her that to make her actually kill other stuff on player phase. Just give her canter on Warrior and she can be a good backup unit with longbow for back attackups. Idk another theory is like some halberdier setup but I haven’t tried it. Anyone can run byleth but at least etie gets the enhanced longbow and strength instruct which is decent and doesn’t waste that much value for setting up a goddess dance since you want on a supportive unit anyway.
@@rickyrivera3623 sure etie does have niches, but out of the 30 or so units in the game, along side the deployment limit of 14 (12 for a large portion of the game) how useful is it to deploy etie and make use of her niches relative to the rest of the cast? What i mean by viability is that she is out classed by every other archer in the game and her niches are not very worth while. This is especially prevalent when you realize flyers are easy to deal with even without bows if you just break them
@@rickyrivera3623 also i would only ever run byleth on mystical units, the plus 2 range is too valuable. In this sense i personally would not run byleth on etie. Finally anyone can become a warrior/ hero. But etie requires a lot more investment considering her low starting level and low sp. goldmary for instance only needs 2 levels and she’ll have brave assist and enough sp for dual assist+
@@Ajihn She is outclassed by no archer lol. She is outclassed by Panette and Amber, that's all. Etie as a warrior serve a different role than Alcryst (who is outclassed by Fogado btw). Luna is a meme too, stop bringing this RNG ahh skill as an argument. Etie don't need Luna to kill.
@@lacaserne9924 i do agree, i don’t like running alcryst very much, but does sniper/bow knight etie one shot or one round anything other than flyers? Also with her low hp and speed stat, i can’t see her as a very valuable/effective warrior (especially when compared to amber and panette). Ultimately i don’t think the long bow warrior strat is that effective unless your just killing fliers
i'm really sorry but i don't like chloe and eirika i tested a lot of times i put spears +5 i did everything but chloe kept doing 14 damage i tried everything build/i I changed the classes but nothing nothing she continued to do 7 damage and when she had a little more speed she was doing 14 it's really not incredible chloé and eirika on the other hand I don't agree with alfred I put this emblem on alfred they are monsters together thanks to eirika my alfred had a total of 233 (with speed ect...) I did not engrave any weapon he had a very good dodge an excellent speed and yet in technique I him I put mobility and +10 dodge thanks to his golden lotus he reduces the damage and ephraim heals him in conclusion for me the best wearer of eirika is alfred and for chloé I really don't laugh when I say that I have tried everything
Try not to put Chloe on S tier Challege (Impossble) (Ringless Run)
No
I think we need to talk about the Etie situation
I know I'm late to the party, but I personally believe Fogado is the best user of Erika. He is able to utilize the split offense with radiant bow, and able to quad with brave bow to keep the engage meter up. The extra movement plus bow enables him to always be in range of an enemy to keep Erika going.
But maybe I'm biased because Fogado + Erika with speed +3 destroyed the final map. Wolf knights be damned
Framme for me is at least high B tier, I’ve ran her as a carry that punches dudes, she only needs speed +5 and flashing fist to double most enemies and can double faster enemies if given build + /one or two speed wings. Technically you can get the same result if you have another unit engage Erica and inherit lunar brace + gentility, but that is way more expensive than speed+5.
Don’t forgot that merrin has her really goofy magic base over Kagetsu. That high magic allows her with erikia (bravery+ in general) to get her to thresholds to ko endgame enemies with magic effective weapons ( Hurricane axe and radiant bow) in non magic classes at internal 35. Same kinda applies to Chloe with the difference being that she has good base with high magic growth while merrin has a high base and good growth (by this games standards since 25% doesn’t look good but it’s only 5% behinds Ivy and pandreo). So they both make better erikia users then Kagetsu. Chloe ends up with at maybe 1 magic over merrin assuming same level/ same magic growth class pathing but it’s normally the same. While merrin and Chloe have a 4-5 magic lead on him and the magic lead is more relevant here then the str for merrin at least. They have best magic after citrinne Ivy pandreo mauv veyle and Anna, and tons of spd too along with goodish bulk on both and str. And due to merrin beating every other stat (that isn’t hp) from Chloe I would also say she’s a better user then her too. But she also uses a ton of rings really well and I would rather inherit bravery+
which is why I give erikia to fogado who you pointed out as underrated. He’s so low investment and erikia really makes that the case. Like merrin he also has magic that’s just on the cusp of doing something but it’s lower then here’s so the extra help from erikia really gets him going so magic effective weapons get those late/endgame ko thresholds. Erikia gives him the power and he has the spd to chip a ton of enemies down a ton when engaged with Brave bow on a mount and kill wyverns and griffins with radiant bow. And thanks to being cav he gets the plus 50% damage on the engage attack and if he needs something dead then seiglinde. Love him
25 isn’t good by engage standards. A good growth as far as a character growth is a 40 percent. 30 is average you’ll need to put effort towards fixing it but nothing too expensive though just be in a good class for fixing strength like warrior or wyvern no biggie those are good anyway. Even Kagetsu wants a little might fixing. You should realistically be shooting for 50 percent total growth on important stats for your character if they are around long enough for those to matter. 30 percent strength on a personal growth means you want warrior or wyvern 40% probably means you have speed as a downside and want something like bow knight or wolf knight to help with that. There are no 50 percent strength growths but as far as magic Anna can make being in a non magic class and using a magic weapon work 50% seems to be the point where you no longer need any support for that growth for might on a growth unit.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 25% is pretty good for mage standards considering( which is what I’m referring too here) when your looking at that strong base she has. Bases plus growths are the big deal here and merrin has the great bases to rock her growths which get underrated, the average magic growth is lower then the average str growth in engage ( which is still not that high by how many other games would work compared to other stats). Merrin hits very easy benchmarks with erikia ( or bravery) Magic effective weapons which is what I was talking about. she does this without as much investment as someone like Anna. Same goes for fogado and citrinne (though her only talent is that huge nuke but she does it so easily lol). I don’t really get your point if I’m honest? The kings of classes in this game fix str/Magic like mage knight wyvern and warrior, though wolf knight which is further behind them bit well above most of the other classes not mentioned (other then griffin which is just great support) fixes str via dagger mt and as I mentioned effective weaponry with there huge spd. Which engage really rewards is those personal base stats. Someone like panette just doesn’t care about sod fixing in the slightest and just unga bunga str. Kagetsu wants that mix of str and spd while merrin is more versatile with also being able to use the very high mt magic physical catagory weapons like Hurricane as a wolf/wyvern or radiant bow as a warrior. Which is relevant to erikia as a emblem since bravery works on both physical and magic weapons to hit thresholds for late game that merrin and fogado do pretty damn well and easy with how jacked they are and speedy units being very good for erikia. Merrin and fogado already do the mixed attacker thing really well for really cheap compared to Anna’s investment
@@ultrose7379 25 is very bad for a total growth in magic. It’s fine for a character growth. I’m saying 45 to 50 is generally the mark you wanna shoot for when adding your character and class growth for relevant stats. For example Kagetsu likes being in wyvern since his strength is a bit low because of being in swordmaster and it gives him both good immediate strength and it reaches a good strength growth so he scales long term. His initial 30% + wyvern’s 20%. Likewise someone like etie needs speed but her strength growth is 40%. Basically any physical class provides a 10% strength growth so she’s just looking for speed and dex in her class primarily and bow knight works well for that without needing a second seal bringing her speed up to 1 below alcryst which is a negligible difference and also bringing her accuracy up. With someone like Lucina she can reach doubling benchmarks for some enemy types and one shot fliers with her strength so it brings her stat benchmarks to a favorable level. The best physical classes are just better for most units because might is a more common issue on physical units then speed. The units with high strength are the exception not the rule. But for those units for example Someone like Amber gets more out of griffon knight then wyvern ( even without considering staff acces) . With how high class growths are and how much lower character growths are there is much less of class a always being better then class b and more of X unit prefers option a y unit prefers option b because they aren’t fast enough to make use of option a but are strong enough to make use of option b. Just the classes that fix the most common issues perform better on average.
@@ultimaterecoil1136 your growth doesn’t matter as long as you reach your thresholds, in this case for getting the job done the 25%-30% magic growth works out just fine for merrin and fogado. I don’t get what your trying to add to this since I never even talked about the rest of that stuff. I don’t disagree on Kagetsu wanting wyvern but he has phenomenal bases compared to almost every unit in the game. It’s just swordmaster is a bad use of him since it’s just a bad class. I’m gonna disagree on Amber though, I don’t like him as a wyvern but he’s very good going the way of being a second panette and just nuking things as a warrior. Either for one shots or huge spd stuff, griffin Amber Doesn’t have the same rewards as focusing his huge str as other classes like warrior/wyvern do. Wolf knight is nice though since it has spd and can get some power from dagger forges
Keep in mind that the Braces only work on initiation, reducing their value heavily for tanks who want to enemy phase mostly. Gentility and Bravery still work on enemy phase, but I'd rather just inherit Gentility than dedicate the whole emblem to a slow tank who can't make great use of the rest of her kit. You can still heal once on player phase with Solar Brace, but then you won't have Gentility for enemy phase unless the unit is Engaged. Eirika isn't terrible on slow tanks, but there are better options for both.
I know i kinda late here but Ivy + Eirika 1 one of my best unit in 3 different run on maddening. Ofcourse she need speed fix so i gave her speed plus 5 + speedtaker and when her hit the speed to double consistently(her speed usally good after 2-3 armor or axe unit)with eirika she can tank and kill 2-3 sometime 4 unit per turn(enemy phase) pretty much everything except swordmaster corrupted( you can still do it, just feed speedtaker more) on chapter 18-23 when her hp is 90% or higher. And luckly eirika has lifesteal so that build is pretty self efficiency. I did test her on Roy - Ike - Hector - Soren - Eirika and Eirika is the best bet for her to enemy phase tank. Yeah, compare to Soren you can't heal on enemy phase but using Soren on Ivy meaning you loose gentility (-5 true dmg is huge) and some dmg when you on Brave mode. Plus you have to build up engage again to lifesteal when the engage time is down. And 1 thing make me curious it Sieglinde is 40 dmg on my Ivy when Engage which afsolutely insane. And i cant find anything to explain this
Eirika also has one of the best Engage weapons with Sieglinde because it deals effective damage against Corrupted.
Etie D Tier LETS GO. Also I'm a huge believer in the Chloe Griffin Knight sword Eirika combo it's hard to think of a better Eirika user. Mag boost and bravery helps Levin sword and Lunar Brace fixes her somewhat low strength growths on the class only unit I consider to e somewhat equal is Nel or Zelestia but like if ur going turbo dlc you can just at that point give Chloe Weapon sync and she'll outperform those two with ease
I used Axe/Lance Wyvern Bouch on Eirika on my last run and he was extremely solid with a Brave Axe at one rounding enemies and could also enemy phase with a Spear weightlessly. With Speed+ he was able to double quite a lot of enemies, and those he couldn’t quad usually got destroyed by the two hits of the Brave Axe anyways. Being able to quad fairly reliably also means he can get Eirika engage back quickly to keep up Blue Skies on other units, though that’s not exclusive to him. There’s better users, but I would move him more towards the top of B if not low A.
What I’ve learned abt engage is that some characters are meant only for early game and some are meant for later on. Only a few are worth it all the way through
I'd argue Jean is D tier with Eirika. For him to benefit, you'd want to have him in a Carry build. Ignoring the usual "massive investment" reasoning around why he's not great, if you run Jean in a carry build and he doesn't have enough STR or MAG to consistently one round without Eirika I'm pretty sure you're doing something wrong. If you build him to deal damage, he doesn't need damage fixing. If he's NOT dealing damage, he doesn't need Eirika.
I think Timerra is an S
Lapis can be A-tier on this on Wyvern, Griffin or Hero. She can go physical or Levin and use 2 range weps on Wyvern or Hero. She already has the speed, so Eirika damage fixes her and gives much needed bulk.
Yunaka was good on eirika for me, avoid +30 and speedtaker. Lapis was a disappointment. I can’t wait to try your timerika build that looked fun af
At the same level using their ideal EP weapons Timerra and Diamant have the same AS: 17. They also have the same speed growth and Diamant has a higher Bld growth.
In my run, I used a warrior Clanne with an engraved Noatun, Hold Out, on Eirika, and man, it worked a little too well. A bad chloe is still a chloe
hey, all I'm saying is that Timerra is at the very top of a lot of these tier lists...
Undeserving
She is very overrated. Fun unit, but that's all. She is mid, but with her trash avability she is unplayable if you don't want to sacrifice a good unit for her. At least things like Alfred got to shine in the early chapters, where there are really few good units anyway.
Timerra is one of the cursed four.
The four characters with such abysmal performance that they drive people insane.
"They can't actually be this bad, right? Yes. Yes, I'm missing something. I see it now. And so will they."
Ect
Fortunately, Anna seems to have caused a fatal seizure in anyone gripped by her terrible power.
Etie has a really high strength growth, if you feed her a few fliers every map she's usually on par to keep one shotting fliers which Alcryst can't idk why everyone thinks she's bad
A few fliers, there are literally no fliers on chapter 5 I believe. Alcryst does fine with the fliers on his join chapter since he has a better bow anyways.
Vander better be s tier or I unsub 😡😡
I don't get why you're so hung up on keeping Etie a Sniper anc calling her "B-Tier". when you can Reclass her to a Warrior watch her performance skyrocket. Warrior gives her enough to Bld to carry Silver weapons, improves her Spd and doubles down on her Str. She's supposed to be a raw Atk monster, not a Crit Fisher. My Etie equipped with a Silver Bow+3 sits at 51 Atk, 26 BASE Spd and mroe Bld than she needs. She's been an ORKO monster for the vast majority of the game and I didn't even feed her any Energy Drops nor Speedwings.
She is an amazing Unit as a Warrior and your refusal to try things out only calls the validity of these "guides" of yours into question, because you're actively giving people bad advice by relegating Etie to a "B-Tier" Unit when she can easily reach "S-Tier" with the proper setup, which you refuse to test.
Sorry, but that's a thumbs down from me for spreading misinformation
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Etie is C tier. And I say that as a big Etie lover (I use her on every run I do, and she is always one of my main carry with Lyn). Amber and Panette are just better, yes Etie is very very strong with Lyn, but Amber and Panette could litteraly do the same thing with even better stats. However, she is often trashed on this channel (like on the Lyn video, where she is C-tier while being one of the best Lyn user). But yeah she is never S tier haha. Panette and Amber are just better sadly.
Also, I don't understand why peoples compare her to Alcryst, both are pretty bad but does very different things.
EDIT : Also, I think Etie is not a very good Eirika user, but putting her bellow things like Bunet ? Really ? And on the same tier as Seadall????
Assuming no stat boosters and fixed growths:
Etie promoted to warrior at level 10 and finishing at an internal level of 40 nets her about 38 strength, 23 dex, 26 spd and 11 bld.
Compared to Panette at internal level of 40 (assuming she switches off berserker when she hits dex cap and stays warrior for the rest of the game) has 41 strength, 30 dex cap, 23 spd and 15 bld.
Etie can use silver bow on warrior iirc which weighs 10. As far as her axe goes, Noatun is good because damage and weightless but mostly everything else weighs her down.
Point is, Etie is good, especially on warrior so I agree with you. My personal favorite is to give her Lucina, which gives her dual assist, speed and dex, another Bow option, and Lucina is usually low competition in my play throughs (unless I’m doing a bonded shield run). Lyn is also a good option but that true for anyone and I’d rather run her on someone else (Celine, astra storm bot, etc.). Marth is also a good option to switch out with, though break defenses doesn’t really synergies with bows.
With Lucina, an endgame warrior Etie gets 30 spd. Give her spd+5, and a tonic which puts her at 37, which lets Etie reliably double most enemies on endgame except sword masters, griffins, wyverns (35 iirc), and WKs. She meets the speed threshold and imo is statistically not bad and kinda good. Throw some favoritism aka speedwing and you got an Etie that is good.
She shouldn’t struggle mid game because warrior is a pop off class and Lucina has great availability. Lyn, Sigurd, Leif (maybe?), and even Marth or Roy are good alternatives for warrior Etie too. Corrin too for longbow draconic hex and dreadful aura and a torrential roar that does actual damage. Probably wouldn’t use Eirika, Ike, or the other Emblems on her though.
Tldr Etie is good especially on warrior
@@xde_ Etie is really outclassed by Amber tho. But I don't care personnaly I use Panette, Amber and Etie on the same team lol. Etie is good, she just suffer from competition. But if you use her you won't struggle at all yeah, she is a really good carry and I don't know why ICG make her look like she is unplayable. Also, using Amber, Etie and Panette in the same team is actually good since you can do something like :
Etie!Lyn Warrior
Panette!Ike Warrior with the classic Vantage+Wrath
Amber!Roy Halb with a brave lance to one round everything with the halb passive, also Roy help durability with hold out
Etie is D- tier.
She kills 2 pegasus, then goes home. She is better only than the characters you never use even on their forced chapters.
I would not be shocked if goddamn Bunet or something was just better than her.
I don't understand what hold this eldritch monstrosity has over people's brains.
Literally unsalvageable without paying 30 dollars tier.
Wow another blue hair fire emblem character
I think the only way you could make etie viable in a run is to turn her into a mage cannoneer. It took a while for her to pop off but I’ve found great result in using her on this class in maddening. Anything else you do on her won’t work lmao.
What does viable even mean. I think she is okay as niche flyer killer and low to medium chip dmg archer. Not great but still useable. You shouldn’t give her lyn but you could give her that to make her actually kill other stuff on player phase. Just give her canter on Warrior and she can be a good backup unit with longbow for back attackups. Idk another theory is like some halberdier setup but I haven’t tried it. Anyone can run byleth but at least etie gets the enhanced longbow and strength instruct which is decent and doesn’t waste that much value for setting up a goddess dance since you want on a supportive unit anyway.
@@rickyrivera3623 sure etie does have niches, but out of the 30 or so units in the game, along side the deployment limit of 14 (12 for a large portion of the game) how useful is it to deploy etie and make use of her niches relative to the rest of the cast? What i mean by viability is that she is out classed by every other archer in the game and her niches are not very worth while. This is especially prevalent when you realize flyers are easy to deal with even without bows if you just break them
@@rickyrivera3623 also i would only ever run byleth on mystical units, the plus 2 range is too valuable. In this sense i personally would not run byleth on etie. Finally anyone can become a warrior/ hero. But etie requires a lot more investment considering her low starting level and low sp. goldmary for instance only needs 2 levels and she’ll have brave assist and enough sp for dual assist+
@@Ajihn She is outclassed by no archer lol. She is outclassed by Panette and Amber, that's all. Etie as a warrior serve a different role than Alcryst (who is outclassed by Fogado btw). Luna is a meme too, stop bringing this RNG ahh skill as an argument. Etie don't need Luna to kill.
@@lacaserne9924 i do agree, i don’t like running alcryst very much, but does sniper/bow knight etie one shot or one round anything other than flyers? Also with her low hp and speed stat, i can’t see her as a very valuable/effective warrior (especially when compared to amber and panette). Ultimately i don’t think the long bow warrior strat is that effective unless your just killing fliers
i'm really sorry but i don't like chloe and eirika i tested a lot of times i put spears +5 i did everything but chloe kept doing 14 damage i tried everything build/i I changed the classes but nothing nothing she continued to do 7 damage and when she had a little more speed she was doing 14 it's really not incredible chloé and eirika on the other hand I don't agree with alfred I put this emblem on alfred they are monsters together thanks to eirika my alfred had a total of 233 (with speed ect...) I did not engrave any weapon he had a very good dodge an excellent speed and yet in technique I him I put mobility and +10 dodge thanks to his golden lotus he reduces the damage and ephraim heals him
in conclusion for me the best wearer of eirika is alfred and for chloé I really don't laugh when I say that I have tried everything