I love using CAD before I make a knife. It really helps get the kinks out of the design and gives me a guide to what it should look like three dimensionally before I make it.
One thing I would like to mention Walter, If you are serious about, And I mean serious about designing anything , whether software, or on paper, Both are equally effective with correct application, Consider that before cad programs, etc., stuff got done, for centuries. Keep up the good work!
Walter thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been making knives for years. In the middle of 2018 I bought a Tormach 1100 PCNC. I had figured profiling out with F360 but not how to create the bevels. Thanks to this video I now have that figured out. Thank you so much. Joshua
This reminded me of another Walter, the infamous "Dr Walt" of Cadkey/Keycreator fame. Had the privilege to take some of his classes back in the day. Never forgot some of his CAD techniques, of course as software improved they changed. Interested in your next CAD video and how you design for manufacture and the fixtures you use for holding the blades. FYI started in the CNC business when we used punched tape to load the programs.
I use to draw my designs out, and then made fun of the people who used CAD, but then they had the last laugh because I tried it out, and now I loved it! After I got use to how it all works, I can now design a knife to perfection. My pin holes are centered, they are the same distance apart from one another without doing any guess work, put the cross hairs to find the center of the holes I want drilled out. And know I'm designing a dagger which would be a pain keeping everything symmetrical if i was drawing it out. After I'm done with a design, I just print it off and get to working on it.
Thanks Walter, old school goldsmith etc., Appreciate your stuff! Not making excuses, I use old style techniques to afford me focus to combat chronic pain. No matter how we get there, arriving at our destination is the most that counts. Pain is a form of concentration we can utilize if we have too. Think your videos are just great, Thankyou! Perhaps I will checkout one of your blades in future, Mr. R. C. Douglas.
A tip for younger makers, if you have a university email Autodesk has almost all of their products for free as a student edition. That includes AutoCAD etc. This won't help much with Cam per say but if you are using it to make a template it can be a helpful tool and make it easy to familiarize yourself with CAD.
I don't know Fusion but I have done a lot of Auto Cad work. I agree about using trimmed circles for design, but I thought someone told me that some of the coordinate details are lost to the CNC (or water jet, or whatever) when the coordinates of the arc is not called out in the first place. thoughts?
Hey Walter, I'm just starting with knife making and I have made blades but I cant heat treat because local laws prohibit the use of open fire. Now I have been suggested propane torches but those also are not allowed in my apartment. The one thing I could think of would be a barbeque, a household propane one which is allowed where I live. Could you let me know by any chance if this would work for quenching? This is so that I can actually get a working tool then I would temper in my oven. Thanks and your videos are great!
I've done it on a barbecue with charcoal. The only thing is that you need a hair dryer (or anything that blow air with sufficient flow) to get the charcoal up to temperature.
Excellent video. Somewhat new to fusion but answered a lot of questions. For the guys (like me) that are new to CAD/CAM programs, particularly Fusion 360, the "Autodesk Fusion 360 Black Book" by Gaurav Verma Samar is an invaluable tool.
Nothing to do with subject of this video, please help me out, I'd just finished stock removal of my 1st knife(learned from all of your awesome videos) but I don't have the necessary tools to heat-treat! Do you or do you recommend any company to do heat treat? O1 steel. Please help
Next week on Walter Sorrells... How to tie your shoelaces without fancy smancy tools How to draw quick 387 minute doodles in CAD program How to peel a potato on a CNC machine
Gerard Gonzalez Indeed, so long as my eraser removes pencil marks cleanly! It is quite satisfying to draw out a design, cut it out and get a feel for the shape. I occasionally use balsa wood scales superglued onto the blank to test out handle profiles
You sir can go to hell making that look so damn easy.. I tried it once...and only once...i had a hard enough time getting a 2 dimensional blade drawn out with a cad program...ill stick to 2d paper and pencil
Dude thats actual 1:1 me... i even did a folder once with an axis lock.. but only after i had a design in mind.. without one it seems impossible to me..even 2d..
Splines... give me gas. I've been teaching an Introduction to Engineering Design class for 13 years and Autodesk Inventor is the primary tool. This would be dead easy to run up in Inventor. But splines... They can get out of hand to the point where it becomes like trying to stack marbles when trying to keep them properly relating to each other in a sketch. The user interface is much different than what you're using, but all of the tools are there to do exactly the same operations. I'll be retiring within the next two years and will loose access to the software, so I need to find a replacement that I can afford. Inventor is about $1900/year!
You may be right, But even though I am getting old, you still have to communicate, as I understand, with others, so they best know your important point. be it to manufacture, pass on your great knowledge, or anything else you may want to pass on to others, Consider what you may, or may not understand as a challenge to learn , and as an example to others about what may be achievable.
in terms of CNC, you have to design it in a CAD, many knifemakers use CNC's if they are producing many knives at a time. Just thought you'd like to know!
looked into Fusion 360 on their website ...... almost caused me a second heart attack when i saw the "yearly" ???? price . Still nothing really hobby friendly for retired people when it comes to cad/cam software .
I love using CAD before I make a knife. It really helps get the kinks out of the design and gives me a guide to what it should look like three dimensionally before I make it.
You are an amazing teacher, and the whole package: Design, CAD, forging, grinding... I love your channel!
If anyone wants to make some templates or designs for fee. DraftSight CAD is pretty handy! That’s what I’ve been using. Basically and Auto CAD clone.
One thing I would like to mention Walter, If you are serious about, And I mean serious about designing anything , whether software, or on paper, Both are equally effective with correct application, Consider that before cad programs, etc., stuff got done, for centuries. Keep up the good work!
Walter thank you, thank you, thank you.
I have been making knives for years. In the middle of 2018 I bought a Tormach 1100 PCNC. I had figured profiling out with F360 but not how to create the bevels. Thanks to this video I now have that figured out.
Thank you so much.
Joshua
This reminded me of another Walter, the infamous "Dr Walt" of Cadkey/Keycreator fame. Had the privilege to take some of his classes back in the day. Never forgot some of his CAD techniques, of course as software improved they changed. Interested in your next CAD video and how you design for manufacture and the fixtures you use for holding the blades. FYI started in the CNC business when we used punched tape to load the programs.
I use to draw my designs out, and then made fun of the people who used CAD, but then they had the last laugh because I tried it out, and now I loved it! After I got use to how it all works, I can now design a knife to perfection. My pin holes are centered, they are the same distance apart from one another without doing any guess work, put the cross hairs to find the center of the holes I want drilled out. And know I'm designing a dagger which would be a pain keeping everything symmetrical if i was drawing it out. After I'm done with a design, I just print it off and get to working on it.
Thanks Walter, old school goldsmith etc., Appreciate your stuff! Not making excuses, I use old style techniques to afford me focus to combat chronic pain. No matter how we get there, arriving at our destination is the most that counts. Pain is a form of concentration we can utilize if we have too. Think your videos are just great, Thankyou! Perhaps I will checkout one of your blades in future, Mr. R. C. Douglas.
Nice tour.
Happy new year, I'm looking forward to what's new!
A tip for younger makers, if you have a university email Autodesk has almost all of their products for free as a student edition. That includes AutoCAD etc. This won't help much with Cam per say but if you are using it to make a template it can be a helpful tool and make it easy to familiarize yourself with CAD.
Thank you Walter.
I don't know Fusion but I have done a lot of Auto Cad work. I agree about using trimmed circles for design, but I thought someone told me that some of the coordinate details are lost to the CNC (or water jet, or whatever) when the coordinates of the arc is not called out in the first place. thoughts?
Hey Walter, I'm just starting with knife making and I have made blades but I cant heat treat because local laws prohibit the use of open fire. Now I have been suggested propane torches but those also are not allowed in my apartment. The one thing I could think of would be a barbeque, a household propane one which is allowed where I live. Could you let me know by any chance if this would work for quenching? This is so that I can actually get a working tool then I would temper in my oven. Thanks and your videos are great!
I've done it on a barbecue with charcoal. The only thing is that you need a hair dryer (or anything that blow air with sufficient flow) to get the charcoal up to temperature.
@@adam-sn1ll do you know if you can get fire brick in a regular hardware store or does it need to be ordered online
@@adam-sn1ll thx 4 the info I will let u know how it goes
Might look into Trash Can Forges. They use a contained flame with a torch driving it.
Excellent video. Somewhat new to fusion but answered a lot of questions. For the guys (like me) that are new to CAD/CAM programs, particularly Fusion 360, the "Autodesk Fusion 360 Black Book" by Gaurav Verma Samar is an invaluable tool.
Awesome informational educational video experience Y'alls
Nothing to do with subject of this video, please help me out, I'd just finished stock removal of my 1st knife(learned from all of your awesome videos) but I don't have the necessary tools to heat-treat! Do you or do you recommend any company to do heat treat? O1 steel. Please help
Did you mention the program you’re using here?
Program name
Hey Walter when was the last time you seen your doctor man
Wtf?
I was just thinking about this haha
Next week on Walter Sorrells...
How to tie your shoelaces without fancy smancy tools
How to draw quick 387 minute doodles in CAD program
How to peel a potato on a CNC machine
Cody's Lab strikes again! Great video though, very informative. Peace.
Pencil, paper, and French curve seem so much easier to me.
Gerard Gonzalez Indeed, so long as my eraser removes pencil marks cleanly! It is quite satisfying to draw out a design, cut it out and get a feel for the shape.
I occasionally use balsa wood scales superglued onto the blank to test out handle profiles
12:54 Siri was listening...
You sir can go to hell making that look so damn easy.. I tried it once...and only once...i had a hard enough time getting a 2 dimensional blade drawn out with a cad program...ill stick to 2d paper and pencil
Yeah, it is like watching someone play Chopin on the piano... looks easy enough...
Dude thats actual 1:1 me... i even did a folder once with an axis lock.. but only after i had a design in mind.. without one it seems impossible to me..even 2d..
That's right! To hell with technology Fred Flintstone.
Forged in Fusion
Splines... give me gas. I've been teaching an Introduction to Engineering Design class for 13 years and Autodesk Inventor is the primary tool. This would be dead easy to run up in Inventor. But splines... They can get out of hand to the point where it becomes like trying to stack marbles when trying to keep them properly relating to each other in a sketch. The user interface is much different than what you're using, but all of the tools are there to do exactly the same operations. I'll be retiring within the next two years and will loose access to the software, so I need to find a replacement that I can afford. Inventor is about $1900/year!
I'll show those bullies now
why would i invest in such an expensive way of designing my knives, if i can just draw them on paper...
You may be right, But even though I am getting old, you still have to communicate, as I understand, with others, so they best know your important point. be it to manufacture, pass on your great knowledge, or anything else you may want to pass on to others, Consider what you may, or may not understand as a challenge to learn , and as an example to others about what may be achievable.
Don't mean to be a Richard, dude, or in anyway condescending, Paper is perfect for getting an idea even started.
in terms of CNC, you have to design it in a CAD, many knifemakers use CNC's if they are producing many knives at a time. Just thought you'd like to know!
looked into Fusion 360 on their website ...... almost caused me a second heart attack when i saw the "yearly" ???? price . Still nothing really hobby friendly for retired people when it comes to cad/cam software .
Craig Voisin it is free for hobbyists. Install angle answer how you are using it.
i just went to the website and read up on that ,looks like it is 1 year free for hobbyists , i guess that is better than nothing
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Made a channel to make money on you-tube then asks for money because it was our fault you spent the time away from family,......lost a subscriber. sad