New mega California reservoir is in final planning phase
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- When completed, the long-proposed, $4 billion Sites Reservoir will hold enough water to feed the needs of five million homes a year or a half million acres of farmland.
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Covering San Francisco with water 50 feet deep sounds like an OUTSTANDING idea!
Its good they got the planning done. They will probably get around to building it as soon as that high speed rail project is completed.
epic!
LOL!
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the high speed rail project is unique tho, such infrastructure that size hasn’t rlly been done in north america before
They steal your money and send it to their 'planning' buddies, so they can get a duffel bag of cash, or a Swiss deposit, when nobody is watching.
Reservoirs like this, where they can divert water from rivers during flood periods would be a great idea. Keeps the excess water from damaging homes and just flowing into the ocean.
Shame this wasn't in place this year. It could have darn near filled up with the amount of rain California had.
it sure is, its just a sign of the current state of California that it is still in a planning phase. Waiting for it to get nixed by environmentalists so we can always be kept in a state of drought with all the controls that proceed from that. And the flowing into the ocean part wasn't a bug, it was a feature!
Ummm. This isn't a new idea. There are thousands of water reservoirs in the country. Unfortunately liberal politics stops any more from being built. There are even groups fighting to remove dams to return the land to what it once was. How people can think like this while encouraging new people to enter the country, increasing the need for more water is pure insanity.
the continuous dumping into the ocean has nothing to do with storage capacity and everything todo with politics. utilities have zero incentive to lower water costs. Folsom dam for example has been kept low on purpose for almost 2 decades because they are afraid of terrorists blowing it up.
And the reservoir 'leaks' into the ground, whenever there is water in it, replenishing ground water.
They gonna fill it with hopes and dreams
they're a day late and a dollar short
Yep….it’ll never happen.
I made the same comment, where do they plan to get the water from. Then it hit me. There's going to be an over abundance of liberal tears after the next 2 or 3 elections and they need a reservoir to store them in. Couple that with the wasted tears everytime Trump dodges jail and they are going to need 2 reservoirs to contain the tears
@@fauxque5057 lol
You'd be surprised how much it actually rains in northern California
“Farms families fish and fowl” my man has been waiting his whole life to say that on camera 😂
Wow, I had never heard of this before but this project is long overdue. That runoff to the sea has always been a problem, and a way had to be found to collect it for future use. Nice going, water engineers.
Runoff to the sea is necessary to keep the Delta farmland from being ruined by saltwater coming in to the bay.
@@wiscgaloot What I meant by "problem" was that there was no way to collect it for future use, when CA has been experiencing drought after drought. But now there will be.
@@TheMilpitasguy As I said, the current rate of freshwater flow into the Delta must continue. This will reduce that flow. Which will lead to a disaster.
@@wiscgaloot No it won’t lmao. In fact it will be environmentally beneficial because it will allow the state to release MORE water into the delta in dry periods than previously.
@@mrepix8287 have you driven anywhere in the Central Valley? There are signs everywhere demanding that we STOP "dumping" water into the ocean. And demanding more storage. You're clueless if you think this will help at all.
We also need to build rain harvesting reservoirs throughout California so when it does rain heavy or light its saved for later use for crops and/or cities that need it.
Rainfall retention basins.
IKR. Netherlands has their land management figured out by the 1960s. It's ridiculous we have all these floods and nowhere to capture it.
@@curiousnomadic The Netherlands is a completely different eco area. They don't have deserts you dolt.
Evaporation. Look it up.
@@KB-ke3fi Do you have zero concept of logic you silly bugger? If they can remove the sea, then California can remove the desert you dolt.
It’s taken 70 years from when it was identified to get this far … wow …
Back when Arnold was the Governor.... He wanted to spend $4 Billon on adding water storage and conservation projects. Howevere, Dems in the Legislature would NOT allow it.
They clamed " It was not needed and a waste of $$ "
@@dennisg4053 when you belong to the wrong party, they will oppose anything just to spite you.
@@A.Martin Seems they'd rather die of thirst. Such stupidity.
And it'll take another 13 to become operational which means plenty of time for environmental groups to shut it down. These types of projects need to be greenlight and given some kind of clearance that prevents groups from trying to stall it out.
California is too much all these damn Democrats just want to spend money like if it's not even theirs another stupid idea about 2 years ago there was a lot of rain in California but all I did was see it go down the storage drains they could have captured all that water....... just wasting more tax dollars and coming up with more propositions to fund their need for greed......lol
I’m an environmentalist and I think this reservoir is a great idea. Right now most of the water we have had is being flushed out to sea. Newsom is destroying the wetland in the Delta. This reservoir would allow for better water management. Something north California desperately needs!
This should’ve been done before the dumb train
@Mr. Kim If you only fill it during wet season when too much water is actually a problem, what is the problem?
@@robtangent4664 That river deltas need such floods to grow, and regenerate soil nutrients thanks to sediments. Morons...
You cannot be serious about being an environmentalist then. Environmentalists hate doing anything to improve infastructure. That is what they do. Totally useless scumbags. Environmentalists will gladly eat your lunch and drink your beer but they oppose anything that might benefit mankind. And they are the ones who began the whole climate change grift.
I am an environmental scientist..., but this is not something I favor. California has poor water management. Agriculture industry grows cash crops instead of sustainable crops; also look at how much of the water intensive produce is sent outside of the country (not just the state). 2/3 of the population lives in a water stress region, people continue to move to the desert and expect water to find its way to them....
Cities like Tucson, AZ, have been diverting rain water for decades. In addition, reusing grey water for ponds, irrigation of golf courses and parks. Many decades ago, Israeli engineers were used to help with some of this process. California can certainly learn and apply these measures. Farm lands can also use grey water in those thirsty almond groves and other agricultural applications.
@@tekdekman Nahh, nothing like what Israel has conducted, so you’re misinformed.
@@tekdekman or its just the cycle
Awatkins916 why the hate? And why’d you delete your first comment?? Can we just let ppl share interesting ideas without immediately shitting on them bc we didn’t say it first?? (And by “we”, I mean you)
Many places in CA do use "grey water".
@@6bigyak987 "The cycle"?
Pay attention, open your eyes.
What used to be swampland is now housing.
What used to be pastureland is now housing.
Without a corresponding conversion of housing to farmland and wetlands . . . it is overuse of resources caused by overpopulation.
So it's taken 70 years to get this far on it. How much longer before it's actually a reality.
If you watched the video, it says it’s scheduled to start in 2025 and operate in 2031. It didn’t take 70 years to get to this point but it did take a while. When they mapped the site it was mapped as a POTENTIAL reservoir that doesn’t mean they had plans since the 50’s to build it simply it’s an option. It’s ok if you didn’t comprehend that though.
"If you watched the video"
I mean, you already know they didn't.
A bathroom costs 1.5 million to build in San Francisco lol…
@@RobbyTripp The simplest things, right? People just want to be shitty, and they really enjoy bitching and moaning... Even when they don't understand...
@@RobbyTripp If it is projected to start in 2025, that is when the lawyers will start getting injunctions against it, and when those die down a little, say 2052, then the EPA will create a Federal injunction to stop the project, claiming that it would destroy an endangered type of lice that only exist in one two foot square exactly in the deepest part of the proposed reservoir.
You don't need another reservoir, you need better water management. The gap between supply and demand exists due to corruption and mismanagement.
If this is a government-led operation, add 2 to 5 billion on to the estimation and another 10 years to complete
"All you need in this life is ignorance and confidence, and then Success is sure."
- Mark Twain
LJ why don’t you run for government and make it work better?
@@hamburgler227 because I'm not a swamp creature
Don't forget, some endangered muskrat will stop the project for another 20 years!
💥 Exactly. The bigger the project, the more corruption it can support. There will be more "studies" adding hundreds of millions of dollars in added and unnecessary costs than you can possibly imagine!
You can build 1,000 reservoirs, but if it doesn't rain what's the point.
Tomasino? What monsoons in California are you taking about? So dry you have a FIRE season. Pay attention.
@@ohausfranswa You're the one obviously not paying attention because California is seeing less rain events but more powerful atmospheric rivers. The event October 24-25, 2021 would be a recent example. The bigger benefit would be to mitigate the effects of "the big one". See ArkStorm which basically turned the Sacramento river into a lake.
@@XDarkCrusades Dont matter anyhow.....Al Gore and JOhn Kerry will put fear into everyone about how we'll all die if we don't tax it.
It would take between 1 and 5 years to fill it depending on the total rain amount
It rains every year, genius.
Please, let's build it ASAP.
Water is now “teleported” fascinating.
Building another lake in a desert 🏜
Brilliant.!!!
Sites Valley is at the base of the foothills above WETLANDS, which regularly flood during winter. It's hardly a desert. You might want to do some research before criticizing one of the better public works projects proposed for California in the last 50 years.
@@newscoulomb3705 water management has been top notch in California no doubts there.
Personally I’ve been hoping California will break off into the ocean 🤞
In southern San Joaquin, build up Tule Lake for storage. It is now usually drained and used as farmland.
Are you going to buy out all those corporate farms?
Starts out only taking water out during the rainy season. But it never stays like that
We have so much water run off and ship it down south. It makes no sense why we haven’t opened up more reservoirs around the state, even if they only get 20% of capacity, that’s a lot of water.
Yes, we need more water.
So, if every other reservoir is drying up where is the water to fill this coming from?
And what if an asteroid hits it when it's full and causes floods all over from the damage reservoir?
@@michaelbailey1403That is one of the stupidest comments I've ever read. Your more likely to get stuck by lightning. Smh!
What fills our reservoirs is the eventual rain and run off from snow in the mountains. Like we just had, are you not a californian? Almost everywhere in the state had some flooding from the massive rain. California's water supply comes from the rain/snow pack, its cyclical. We need more storage for when these big rains come, like we just had.
Have you been paying attention?! 2017, 2019, and 2023 record breaking rain / snow. The state is flooded and still raining. Nearly all this water is going straight to the ocean. It's not being captured because we don't have enough reservoirs to capture the runoff. The reservoirs are "drying up" because our population has increased by 20 millions people since the last reservoir was built. We also have to flush the sewage out of SF Bay using Norcal reservoir water every year. Our reservoir water is mismanaged. Fix the SF Bay sewage leaks. Stop releasing extra water for smelt. Have Los Angeles build a couple desalination plants.
See ya Delta Smelt. It was nice knowing you!
How many delta smelt have you got in your life?
@@meatpopsicle1567 my while family are Delta Smelt. Don't disrespect the Smelt! :)
@@jimmaag4274 you're my hero Jim. Never forget that. EVER!
We need to push home rain ☔️ system for plants, garden and lawn. In raining season I collet 500 gallons from my home roof
Any idea who owns all that land? You might be shocked!
Bribery and corruption...say it ain't so.....
I bet those people living in that valley aren't willingly giving up their homestead but have to thanks to eminent domain. Plus, with the population increasing (I'm being an optimist or pessimist depending on your point of view) or even if it stayed the same for awhile, California needs more than 2 of these reservoirs.
They've been evacuating towns to build reservoirs forever. Lake Mead is one example.
You'd asphalt & concrete over all those farm lands, eh ?
Supermarkets are the orgins of meats, fruits & veggies, right ??
WRONG.
@@pmullins8821 who in the right mind farms in the desert in the first place
colonizers, on stolen land, Native tribes got kicked out not so long ago.
@@californianorma876 Pretty much all land on Earth was stolen repeatedly over thousands of years. This includes North and South America as well. Constant migration, violence and disease across the planet was the cause. Going back about 20,000 - 30,000 years so called Native tribes were the same people as Europeans.
Need it done yesterday!!
When you read the comments and you see people can't pay attention to a 3 minute video 🤦🏽♂️
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Seriously
I feel attacked
Great comment about others. But what's about you. Who made you judge of all and what about the article which not a word.
I'm still thinking about it as I'm familiar with the area and I think I like it but I want to see the predicted rate of use and not have it just sitting in the sun . It's affect on the Sacramento river which already feeds several dams .
After one thousand years they are finally going to save some water ? WOW .
Hyperbole.
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
We need that COMPLETED 3 years ago, not approved to start construction some time after the high speed rail is completed.
There was a time, very long ago, that one of the world's largest freshwater lakes was in California. That giant basin running through the center of California used to be full of water. When the natural Dam failed, the water rushing out to sea formed San Francisco Bay. I have been to some Native American ruins on the ridge of one of the mountains overlooking the basin, near Bear Valley Springs, and found so much evidence of year round rain and water in the now dry dusty desert. Personally I am confident that at the time the Native Americans lived there it was a lush forest of massive Oak Trees and wild life. It would have had to be to sustain what appeared to be a large enough community to justify grinding out a minimum of 8 grindstone holes. They must have been used for generations as the holes were deep. It makes me wonder if the lake draining forced them to migrate or if the local climate was still wet enough to sustain until the farmers arrived.
@Josh Eaton National Geographic, they referred to it as an inland sea. I suppose you are from Twitter? Possibly a bot? I don't know a real human on this planet that feels comfortable using the word "disinformation" we just call it lies or BS.
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
I assume you're a "yes."
Dude nobody cares about your sob story we live in the real world not Avatar. We have 40 million people to sustain, not one tribal village lmao.
@@mrepix8287 What sob story? I did not add sorrow or any elements of it, you added that yourself.
That lake is known to geologists as Lake Corcoran and it drained to sea level about 400,000 years ago. long before humans arrived in North America, However, there was certainly lots of summertime rain not many thousand years ago, as well as permanent lakes in Nevada and in Death Valley that have dried up since the ice receded, 8,000 years ago. My guess is that 8 grindstone holes would not support a very large community, ,maybe a couple hundred at most.
One statement really bugs me . The uncaptured wasted water goes on to the sea. Well that so called waste brings sand to our ocean side beaches which without our beaches and coastal planes would disappear. Our fish that migrate to the sea would disappear. The droughts are caused by us overbuilding, removing forests by cutting or burning. Rainforests cause low pressure areas in the atmosphere pulling in rain . Buildings and roads cause high pressure zones which rain goes around and is not rained on. We've got too many people here already. But building more houses and ever expanding is killing California. Not the wasted waters that escape be captured in a dam but water that brings life from the sea.
What do we do about the increasing population? 2nd generation Californians of all races have a negative birthrate on average. Immigration, much of it illegal is driving the population growth from.the 60s till now.
Androgynous fish and marine life, estuary flushing, ocean water chemistry. Overpopulation is killing the earth and is driven by corporate greed and the elites getting rich from it. Flood the central valley again and bring back Tulare Lake which we drained only 150 years ago.
I agree! I think your comment is the only one here worth reading.
Found the enviro-nazi who will be helping tie this up in the courts for the next 20 years. The liberals will be the final downfall of California.
You would think these reservoirs would’ve been already built.
I was a watershed project manager for USDA in Colusa County from 1998-2000. Worked on some of the planning phase already underway for almost 50 years. In a nutshell, the project is not practical or feasible. Far too expensive and complicated and displaces too much natural habitat. The cost benefit ratio is just not there.
"Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you."
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT!!! You're definitely a "yes!"
Unfortunately, your KNOWLEDGEABLE opinion (and vote) will be nullified by all the ignorant Californians who know nothing about water policy. Thus my inquiry above.
Next we'll see trillion dollar desal projects that will sit idle for decades. Let's stop the ripoff of Californians by big business. Scare tactics are really effective against ignorant voters.
you are the problem. natural habitat has no value. it's just feel good bullshit. california needs the water. human animals need water.beavers destroy habitat to suit themselves , humans have to do the same.
Put a Nuclear power-plant next to it if you want to really help!
Can we put the nuclear waste in your yard
But NO!!!! 20,000 years ago, there was an ancient tortoise that walked through there once. That's holy land. (s)
@@jamescoleakaericunderwood2503 We have a 'waste' problem because of folk like you thinking Power plants create Weapons grade waste,
Instead of reprocessing (fuel pellets are weak,,,by design) we have holding ponds full of fuel that just needs a bit of refurbishment. I was told the residue of a (full set of rods) reprocess would fit in ONE drum and people like you would rather make power by BURNING tons of carbon based fuel. Maybe you should stop watching hollywood. BTW Fukishima disaster was caused by someone not doing the right thing and putting the emergency cooling power on the roof of those buildings (known tidal wave zone). The buildings survived just fine. The much needed backup power did not.
@@steveurbach3093 thanks for the enlightenment ☢️☣️...
So what your telling me in other words is that WWII should of been fought with Nuclear arsenals.....
To hell with petroleum fueled wars....let's scrap all that and nuke the shit outta the Planet!
After all what my Father told me was right....
You know what money is good for in the Jungle?
( Island Hopper WWII)
You can wipe your ass with it!
I'm a conventional man....it's greed that's ruined this planet
I'd think a nuclear plant would be more useful where it can power a desalination facility.
All of the final step sewage water (its treated and clean, technically consumable right out of the pipe) should be returned to the environment for reuse, not to the ocean. All the way to the top of the current LA supply along with the other sources for other cities.
Environments always the #1 roadblock to solving environmental problems.
You still have have rain. The bigger the reservoir, the higher the evaporation rate.
They'll put black plastic balls on top to stop evaporation
Still better than not collecting rainwater. 100% of nothing is still zero. I'll take 20% of water in a reservoir any day
They can just cover it with 100,000,000,000,000 plastic black balls. :)
California has wet ad dry years.
This is one of 10 projects that approved for construction roughly 40 years ago, but leftwingers have fought against it tooth and nail.
@@TheOnlyBlackInMeWasWillieBrown Really? It's the left that votes against stuff now? LOLOL
I like Tom....."Right now theres a big gap between supply of water and the demand for water...." No shit Tom???? lol
Everyone keeps talking like the lack of water somehow isn't an issue...
@@Ry_Guy it's huge and has been for pert near a decade or two...If people can't read the writing on the wall, we're all in for a hurting....
Dams aren't the only solution, Tom!
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
@@dudeonbike800 we HAVE water and get MORE water but it runs off into the ocean...We don't know how to SAVE the water....
@@davidwright873 we WASTE water by the acre foot. Central Valley farmers still aren't using efficient, responsible irrigation. Since they make up 80% of CA's water use, that's all the savings we need. Can save BILLIONS in spending on dams & other projects simply by requiring farmers use water better. Oh and perhaps if we stopped subsidizing their water (that's SOCIALISM!!!!), they'd value the water more and use it more wisely!
And then there's residential use, although tiny, still wastes a lot of water. Watering lawns & yards, filling pools, washing cars & flushing toilets with drinking water. In my case, PRISTINE Sierra snow melt drinking water. I'm VERY lucky to have such excellent water. Too bad so much is wasted on things grey & rainwater could be used on instead.
About time we doing something good
My family lived and ran cattle in the Antelope Valley during the 1860s to 1870. All of the water in the Valley is seasonal, so natural flow would never be able to fill it, but it is a perfect natural bowl with a 600ft tall narrow ridge that runs along the Eastern side and with the hills to the West an earthen dam built along the Northern opening would make it the least expensive to build and the biggest Off Flow reservoir in the State. The environmental activist group, The Center for Biological Diversity has been blocking this project for decades. So we'll see if this ever happens.
Good to know that the center for biological diversity is the group responsible for blocking this reservoir being built.
Yup, Its just Progressives doing what they do best, stopping progress.
Maybe a few assassinations are in order?
Wow CA really rushing on this one. Have only known about this problem for a few decades
Yeah, it'll never happen
@@davidrinaldis2351 sadly I am betting some group files a lawsuit for environmental issues and blocks it.
This reservoir should've been online 20 years ago...
"Water is for fighting over, whiskey is for drinking."
- Mark Twain
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We need to be building reservoirs like mad to capture as much water as we can. Desalination plants and grey water recycling as well. It's going to be a matter of survival, both economic and literal.
Reservoirs are almost pointless if they are not covered and evaporation makes their existence counterproductive.
@@ididyermom3273 Not sure if you're trolling or completely misled. You are correct that covering them helps against evaporation, but regardless, reservoirs capture water which would run out to sea and store it for future use. There are millions of households in CA which would not have reliable water without them.
The best thing for Cali would be to sink into the ocean and do the rest of us a favor.
@@joshlower3520 "California is the world’s 5th largest supplier of food, cotton fiber, and other agricultural commodities. In the U.S., California is the largest producer of food despite having less than 4% of the farms in the country." Some favor. I'm sure the world would be so much better off without us.
@@ididyermom3273 So we should get rid of the California Aqueduct that serves Los Angeles now?! Or wait until they finish a few desalination plants?
We need water at any cost so bring it on. This is something fisherman like myself would support.
No we don't!
Throwing away money isn't acceptable, given society's challenges today. We can't even HOUSE people, much less offer universal health care and living wages. Desal is a boondoggle CA definitely doesn't need.
As long as we keep flushing toilets, filling swimming pools, washing cars and watering our yards with pristine Sierra drinking water, we don't have a water shortage, but a water usage problem.
Grey and rainwater recapture should be pursued before building more dams.
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
There used to be Great Lakes in the Central Valley but they were drained 100 or so years ago
When the Glaciers melted there were all kinds of lakes, lol. Unlike those glaciers 1922 wasn't that long ago. Please give us all a history lesson of California's "great lakes.", lol.
@@mitch_the_-itch You are showing your ignorance. This takes a few seconds to google.
> When the Glaciers melted there were all kinds of lakes, lol. Unlike those glaciers 1922 wasn't that long ago. Please give us all a history lesson of California's "great lakes.", lol.
The entire Central Valley was a lake (Lake Corcoran) draining out through the Salinas Valley (and cutting the huge underwater canyon at Moss Landing in the process) until only 600,000 years ago. Then a natural dam broke and it drained out through SF Bay.
After that, it left Lake Tulare at the southern end. This was the largest freshwater lake west of the Mississippi. As recently as 1938 it overflowed due to rains and flooded 28,000 Acres.
The rivers feeding it were eventually dammed in the 1950's and farmers drained what was left for crops. They keep draining the aquifers, causing subsidence of the entire area by up to 11 feet per year.
@@mitch_the_-itch lookup “Tulare Lake”
This was done to populate Los Angeles with environmentalists who would oppose such projects forever after.
@SeattlePioneer no it was done by area farmer and the cotton industry put the nail in the coffin.
Where are we going to get the rain to fill it?
They gonna pray to their demons for rain.
ITS CALLED THE SKY, GENIUS
@@yoteslaya7296 oh really? Whatever is above our heads here in California doesn’t have any rain in it. Will you please send some sky over from wherever you are?
@@zhaneranger rains come every 5 years. Guess you forgot last time when it rained so hard the Oroville damn broke
CA doesn't have water problems. They have senior right to Colorado River water. 4.4 MAF / Yr
So, can we actually opt to cover San Fran in The 50 feet of water and pass on the reservoir. Because if so, that would be super hip.
It would certainly wash all the feces away
@@dr.a006 50 feet?!?! Yeah..., maybe....
Just in time for the next atmospheric river! 😎
This is a great Idea... More wet land should make environmentalists happy... I am an environmentalist myself and I love this idea. Speed it up already.
I love how long it takes for the government to solve a foreseeable problem 🙄
ya, no kiddin'
It's not them...it's the ACTS of The G-D'S of Israel...We The People.
Like 120 years or more
Be patient. It takes careful planning to make money disappear.
🥸🌏🌋 Firebelt feeds ocean with CO2 and H2O.📤🌀 Water "breathes" CO2 depending
📈on seasonal temperature.🔥🌪
Wow - it only took 100 years to figure this out .
That's human civilization for ya
There is no shortage of water for humans in California, 80% of California’s water goes to agriculture, yet agriculture accounts for less than 3% of California’s GDP. The crop that consumes the most water is alfalfa, which goes to feed cows, California does not have a water problem, they have a cow problem.
California is a drought state always , we are in a water shortage situation here in California and this is all caused by water mismanagement and environmental groups causing big problems !
Southern California is an irrigated desert. It doesn't rain much in the desert. Who knew!
@@scottw5315 Exactly well said !
@@scottw5315 all that doesnt matter, its the agriculture that is the MAIN water user in Cal and the main cash crop for the state as well as the country.
@@MrSneaksful I was in Camarillo this summer. There was a flashing sign on the road, EXTREME DROUGHT conserve water. Honestly, the rest of us are tired of California whining. You mean your sending all those nuts to China? Good for you...still don't care.
Even when it's flooding we are in a drought. 🙃🙄
Personally, LA under 50ft of water sounds like the proper course of action.
Some of the high rise buildings are well over 50' tall. That leaves a lot of space to save people. Can we knock the buildings down before the flood?
People in L.A. need to keep those swimming pools full.
Yes!
Reservoir is too small and too shallow. Adding 200ft elev to shasta instead would provide an additional 9 millon acrefeet of storage. Dam foundation was originally built to that spec but they ran out of funding for materials to that size during the great depression. It would also require relocation of some reservoir-side infrastructure built since the dams completion as well as several smaller saddle dams to plug in a few passes here and there.
That is too smart for Democrats to comprehend.
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
@@dudeonbike800 My knowledge is partly personal research and partly from my bachelors classes on hydrology, geology, hydrogeology, water resources taken in a university in california. I got a little obsessed with californias reservoirs a few years back because I had a jet boat and wanted to know where I could go and have enough depth to launch and such. Turned into a more generalized obsession. Learned alot about all the hows whys and whats. Less so about water rights.
@@alexanderx33 excellent. Appreciate the reply.
I know there was talk of an additional 50 vertical feet for Shasta which would increase the water storage from 4.5 million acre ft to nearly 13 million acre ft. . I can't remember about the 200ft elevation. I do remember of the funding loss. Where did you find this information. I'd love to read up on it.
It's not related to the news, but that's an awesome arial view of the *Golden Gate Park:* 0:28
I have never seen the park in that angle, looked like new York for a second.
Ahh yes just in time for summer
When there is no rain it will be ready
Why weren’t we building more reservoirs years ago?!
Instead of spending money on a high speed train that no one needs-
We all need water - build more reservoirs
Our population had more than doubled since the last resivor was built, but ya... let's blame climate change..
I hope next thing they do is reforestation of barren lands like those in Sacramento area etc
reforestation would help Californias water crisis and help with climate change
@@Ap_twsh yup. Exactly
Exactly 💯
And reintroduce the brown bear. The only brown bear in existence in California is the 1 on the state flag.
We could use it right now!
Central California was home to one of the biggest lakes in America the Tulare Lake and drained by farmers
Also Lake Corcoran, which was destroyed by American colonists.
Not anymore mother nature got her Tulare lake back
“Wetter wets and dryer dries” = Normal
Get it built!
Hetch hetchey?? No too easy!!!! Save the smelt!!!
For what?
He who smelted it, Deltaed it.
Prop 1 passed in 2014 for these types of projects. Not a nickel has been spent
Where's our money? Where's our money? Let's get a lawsuit going. I want my money back. Build some reservoirs or give me my money back. Someone needs to be held accountable for robbing us.
California: We have no water, our lakes are all drying up!
Also California: Hear me out, lets build a massive reservoir.
Not sure about the logistics, but I think it’d ideally function as a better way to store and use water rather than taking from other states and the struggling lakes and rivers :)
thats essentially what you do, you capture more rain water instead of letting it go out to the ocean.
The issue is "when." California gets more than enough water during Winter, when farmers aren't growing crops and yuppies aren't watering their lawns and filling their oversized swimming pools. Many people in Northern California have lost homes and property to flooding in the last 10 years, and many farmers have had to abandon crops for lack of water. This reservoir addresses both of those problems.
I was just reading about how water is pumped from Lake Havasu / Parker Dam on the Colorado to IRON MOUNTAINS and on to and through the Coachella Valley and San Jacinto Mountain Range. Lots of pumping and elevation changes, must cost a fortune.
This is all contingent on the Sacramento River continuing to flow. If it dries up like the Colorado River, there won't be enough water to fill the reservoir. We can't predict future rainfall, but it doesn't look good. All the rivers west of the Mississippi (and the Mississippi itself) are way down, and unless the drought eases up, they will go much lower.
Drought happens in California about every 5 years, like clockwork. It has been about 5 years since the last time, so we are in one now. In about three years we will have floods for a couple of years, then back to drought for a few years.
@@lwilton don't be so nieve, the weather is no longer predictable, you're oblivious. 🤦♂️
I've lived my entire life 50+ years along the upper Mississippi river. As an avid fisherman I keep a close eye on the water level. The river has been slightly low this summer, but I've seen it way and I mean way lower in the past. Another factor not talked about is the lack of dredging by the army corps of engineers. They were a common site pre pandemic, I personally haven't seen a single ship since.
Seems news stories have become sensationalized to bring in as many clicks as possible.
@@Ry_Guy Oblivious is an interesting choice of word from you in your insults... Nieve? I think you mean naïve right? And could you please reference the time in history you are referring to? You know the time when weather was predictable? I wonder if what you are experiencing is instant karma and you sincerely know how to read and comprehend or if essentially people like you who troll and exist only to insult others, are really just idiots in need of a hug?? I know this may come across as an insult but it's a genuine question, you opened that door, I am simply walking through it and curious as to if your comment comes from a place of complete ignorance or narcissism? I hope you have a better day and make sure you get a hug soon!
@@Ry_Guy You're drunk on climate change kool-aid. Also, it's spelled naive.
Jerry is a good man. Played basketball with him many times. Glad to see him helping make California better!
I watched Jerry West play . He was a good man. Glad to have him make CA BASKET BALL better/ LOL/ thanks for the H20
He looks like he plays ball. Good shoulders and arm length. Does he play the 3 or 4?
Saving rain water, imagine that.
They need to build it with flex joints so it can withstand an earthquake.
In Florida we place baffles in waterways to prevent all the water escaping during high winds.
In places prone to droughts they use floating balls to reduce evaporation.
In extreme cold areas they hire bears to hibernate in tunnels beneath the reservoirs to keep them warm.
In areas where gravity is a problem they use force fields to prevent water from escaping.
California needs flex joints.
What do you guys do to get rid of the homeless? Asking for a fellow Californian.
the floating balls are not to reduce evaporation they are used to keep the UV rays in sunlight from converting the chlorine into cancer causing chemicals
Force fields and unemployed bears, lol
LOL you certainly live up to your name.
@@hectormartinez9657 We ship them to people with homes.
We're too snobbish and paranoid to let them into our own homes or provide some sort of assistance locally.
I believe it'll be a great story to hear if I was a news anchor, I would like to get a story from all those people that do reside in the area.
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
It's an interior coast range valley, well insulated from the actual Sacramento Valley. Reading this makes me kinda sad. My uncle and his wife used to reside there and had a small farm and adjacent undeveloped property. I remember well how remote and peaceful it felt, how dark it was there at night, with just the red blinking of the relay tower in the distance on the ridge to the southeast visible though the almost pitch black night. And hiking up Lovelady ridge through BLM land to see Mt. Shasta glowing golden, floating above the evening clouds on the far northeast horizon.
Plans to add height to Shasta Dam approved
Always concerned about those people directly impacted by a new reservoir. If they have known for years and fairly compensated, it can still be life changing.
Well, it seems there are only a dozen or so families, and the land has gotten so bad/dry that they have to truck their cattle to Oregon... so doesn't sound like they are giving up much in terms of money, just in terms of history of family lands. But I'm sure the state will offer them a decent price with so few people needing to be bought out.
@@Jaradis Reminds me of the line "I'm from the government and I'm here to help"
@@Jaradis you are referring to eminent domain. It’s usually a long drawn out process especially cause the government does not provide good compensation. So families may need to go to court in order for proper compensation
@@Jaradis a few dozen people would hold back water storage for millions of people.
wow, it was proposed in the 80's. Way to move fast California and note the drought...
Marc Reisner makes it clear that California already identified and built on its beneficial dam and reservoir sites. Any additional dam building is in marginal locations that don't "pencil out" very well.
Throwing billions at a project that sits empty without rain.
All while we're flushing toilets with pristine Sierra snowmelt and amazing drinking water.
No, we need more sensible water use BEFORE wasting $$$ on big projects with little upside, but large profits for the industrial complex (not that jobs aren't bad, but the money should be spent on worthy projects).
Like desal, CA needs to choose wisely.
no...try the 50s...
@@dudeonbike800 This. The answer has ALWAYS been to reduce agricultural use. Agriculture uses 80% of the human-used water in the state, the solution starts and ends there. We have plenty of water for the people living here, we don't have enough water to keep feeding the water-intensive crops they keep trying to grow here.
@@dudeonbike800 Don't choke on these words you spoke 4 months ago. California flooded this winter. Record breaking rain and big time record breaking snow. 2017 and 2019 same. 3 out of the last 7 years extremely wet. Why would it sit empty without rain? Could have filled her up in December and January or this year.
@@cavemancavemanog no choking here. If you've lived in CA for any length of time, you understand the concept of "feast or famine." In other words, while this year we'll be releasing floodwaters by the thousands of acre feet, in a few years we may find ourselves back in severe drought.
And building reservoirs isn't the solution. Evaporation alone is enough argument against this. Reservoirs were never designed to capture all the rainwater - they're there to attenuate floodwaters while also providing water storage.
And we've already developed almost all the sites that pencil out cost/benefit-wise. Building more reservoirs in bad places isn't sound spending of public monies - especially knowing how this water ends up being used by farmers enjoying the water at subsidized prices.
Nor is building a billion dollar desal plant sensible. But it is if you're in the money-making business and the rate payer's expense.
Now if we were to develop sound groundwater recharge, I'd support it. But as it is now, we're relying on percolation which is FAR TOO SLOW to adequately recharge our depleted aquifers.
Again, flushing toilets with Sierra snow melt while shouting "We're gonna die of thirst, so BUILD MORE DAMS NOW!" is beyond stupid.
Before smugly assuming you've won an argument, it's probably better to learn more about water policy in CA first.
Get it done ✔️
Where's the snow and rain to fill it?
Not enough of it anymore. 😥
You mean we can’t just redirect that to somewhere else? 😆
The Lord will provide. Or not.
Nowhere. They steal water and money from Republican states
You people need to work on your developing your attention span. Because it said in the video that a wet year with a lot of snow could could fill this reservoir in on year. And as everyone knows California goes from one extreme with drought for several years to intense snowfall and rainfall.
I remember a few years ago when they had a ton of extra snow in the Sierra Nevada MTns. Especially around Tahoe. All of that water ended up in the ocean
haha...all of it huh? Guessing you dont live in CA. Nice try...
@@YourName-jm7lz lots of it though
My bad, not all of it.
All of it ? SMH
Yes, 2017, 2019, and 2023 all record breaking rain / snow years. 3 out of last 7 years record precipitation and the reservoirs are empty every year.
Let's store More water Outside in the Desert...........
Lol, this area is not a desert.
The farmers will change their tune when they find out that CA will only pay them 50 cent per acre, declaring eminent domain.
This is awesome. I’m glad to see what becomes of it.
Perhaps adding more of these kinds of reservoirs will add to the success of saving more water 💦 cheers 🥂
Yessss ❤
Here is your problem, where does the water to fill the bowl come from? You can't even keep your current reservoirs even partially full.
Maybe listen and watch the video and maybe find out. TWOT
@@philip3235 That is just moving water around and doesn't do anything to increase the total supply and you are going to have even more salt water intrusion into the delta with that plan, a serious problem they are already experiencing. TWOT.....
Good idea. Can't wait to see progress
In 50 years more 😂
Don't hold your breath
This 1 and 9 others were approved over 40 years ago and leftwingers what fought against it ever since. I'd be surprised if the break ground before I die.
It's a horrible idea. How is it better to waste electricity to pump water from the Sacramento River, that we're not supposed to use anyway, to a far away place where there are no farms?
Have you read "Cadillac Desert" or other germane works on water policy affecting Californians? Please provide your answer in reply to my comment above.
I'm VERY curious to know how many commenters on water policy have done any "homework" on the subject. Thank you.
Capture all the rain water, it might be possible to reflood Death Valley.
There aren't gonna be wet years
Where did the ice age come from?
Reforestation would go a long way. Instead with a reservoir we’ll get expand communities up to the limits then complain and look build another one somewhere.
"Over the last 25 years, we have lost more than 150 km3 of groundwater from California, which would take many many years of rain to replace, even if there were no consumptive use for municipal or agricultural purposes."
Let's totally leave out the part where decreased flow in the Sacramento Delta from this project leads to even further Salt Water intrusion from the bay, effectively killing the water supply for thousands of acres of farm land and residences. If the Snowpack is not in the mountains the Water will never be in the Valley, simple as that
People are clueless about where their drinking water comes from. If this was planned since the 1950s and never put into place there is a reason for that. Something doesn’t smell right. This is probably another way to divert California funds to feed the ultra rich bank accounts and never complete the project to leave farmers and consumers in the dust.
Please listen from 1:34-1:43
@@jerradwilson To "rethink" that would be very easy.
Read and comprehend Bargdaffy's entire post before getting defensive.
Salt Water intrusion = more and faster RUST of underground structures ...🕳🗯
Where's the water coming from?
WATCH THE VIDEO GENIUS
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I'm guessing the 9 year completion schedule is highly optimistic.
its 2 years, 2024.
I will agree California does need more reservoirs but as an angler and outdoors enthusiast I love the wild river canyons and wild native rainbow trout and brown trout and am glad for some dams not being built. There are lots of awesome places in the river canyons that would be a real shame to just become another pond. But in carefully planned areas with minimal impact sure some more water storage would be beneficial
There are still plenty of places for you to go and be an Angler. Stop thinking of just yourself and start thinking about the overall benefit to those around you.
@@fpplsoftwashpressurewashin8757 theres plenty of reservoirs throughout the state but the water is poorly managed and I didn't say no to all reservoirs. But they should be built in certain areas and some places should be left alone and I'm by far not the only one who appreciates wild rivers,whitewater rafting is also a major industry in the region. And a lake full of planter trout is not the same experience as catching wild trout in a natural stream.
That’s dumb. I like those fish too but I also like crops and food during manmade droughts (failure to build dams)
@@bssaassin1900 ever heard of whoosh innovations?
This project should get fast tracked and done ASAP.
The greenies will sue and sue to delay it (and extract money) as long as they can.
@@patmcbride9853 I wish the Green Cartel would protest the High Speed Rail project because it displaces many rare lizards, and even hurts birds who perch on the trees. But they conveniently forego the climate impact when it goes against their narrative
@@JohnS-il1dr The Greens are also OK with eagles getting chopped up by windmills.
It won't.
Thank you to you giving up your homes to give the people more water.
California keeps consuming, more, more, more.
There’s a couple of dry lakes that they could refill also for a lot less.
Where do you get or buy the water from?
It’s easy to miss, but they said it’s from capturing the extra water from winter storms. That water is normally sent to the ocean because we can’t capture a majority of it
We have our own water in Northern California.....we are in a drought because we send our water to southern California
@@obijuankenobi420 We are one state not two.
@@thomaswright7590 A state thats not being managed in a sufficient way.....Los Angeles also gets water from Nevada.....you dont put half the state in a drought to supply the other half.
Watch the 3 minute video.