@@Saltfowler yes there’s worse places . I used to work from Coleman to Pincer Creek Alberta , a few hours away , and let me tell you Cranbrook is paradise compared to there lol . When it’s blowing 10 mph it’s probably 110 in Pincher Creek
@@Saltfowler lol that’s an understatement. I was hooking up a tv , and when I turned it on that show called Jeopardy was on . Alex said where’s the windiest place in the world? The answer was Pincher Creek lol . That was back in the 80’s , and it’s been changed since . They’ve gotta be at least in second place though
Vernon’s airport is important for air ambulance, firefighting, and so on. It's also a delight for private planes. It just doesn’t have any airline service. By Canadian standards winter in the Okanagan doesn't amount to much.
Vernon is actually not extreme weather. I lived there for 10 years. Yes, it gets hot in the summer months, sometimes 35 to 40 degrees for a few days in a row, but winter is definitely not cold. It's usually hanging around -5 to -10 and occasionally dips to -20 to -25, however, this is a dessert area far from the ocean so the humidity is very low. It is very dry so you do not feel the cold as much through your clothes. In my opinion this video is intended to thwart foreigners and outsiders from moving to one of the most beautiful regions in Canada. Kalamalka Lake and Okanagan lake begin in Vernon, and these are amazing recreational lakes, great fishing, water skiing, and even jet boating or jet ski... is a complete joy here. This city has the most affordable real estate in the Okanagan valley so you can really keep the cost of living to a minimum. Again this is one of the best little cities to live in within Canada. If you are not sure, then go vacation there for a week first and see if you like it. There's lots to do and traffic is very easy and stress free. Lots of free parking, parks, trails, and amazing views.
My intention is the opposite! We want people to move to Vernon - I'm in the real estate business so of course we want people moving here :) However I do want to give people the straight goods on what to expect.
@@Saltfowler Your video is an innacurate critique of Vernon that dwells on insignificant things like warm summers and cool, but not even cold winters. Everywhere else in the country hits -40 degrees with 6 to 10 feet of snow. There's hardly any snow in Vernon and even -20 for a few days is entirely tolerable in such a dry climate. In other words, nothing to concern about. Summer at 35-40 degrees for a couple weeks per year is completely tolerable especially with such beautiful lakes to go swim and cool off. There are also many cities up and down the valley to visit, explore, and enjoy. Vernon is a great little city to raise a family, better than 90% of the rest of BC. Just be more honest next time and balance your content with proper information. People move there from Alberta where it snows sometimes in July... -40 for a couple months in Edmonton, Calgary... etc... and if you are a foreigner moving there Vernon will seem like paradise by comparison to India or China. Many are forced out of the Lower mainland housing markets and look to the Okanagan for financial relief from extreme taxation and endless fees, parking costs, and overpopulation. Vernon by comparison is wonderful. Just be more honest with your videos and put yourself into a Chinese or Indian persons shoes. There are also plenty of service industry and tourism industry jobs there which drive that economy. Live and work in Vernon or live in Vernon and work in Lake country or kelowna... entirely reasonable. Start a winery, start a small business... invest in a liquor store... plenty of options for Vernon to expand and grown. Most of the people in Vernon are elderly... My mother bought a house there for 120k just a few years ago... what an amazing price compared to 1.8 million for the same house in Vancouver
@@jroceastvan Believe me, I am a huge Vernon fan. If you watch our other videos, you will see all the great things about Vernon - there are so many positives. However these are the negatives from my viewpoint, from a long time Vernon born and raised resident, I cannot speak from the viewpoint of someone coming from the places you suggest as I have not lived that life. I can only share from my experience from living here almost all my life. You are welcome to disagree, however these are the negatives from my perspective which may be different than yours. I thank you for your comments, you sound like a true lover of the Okanagan, which is fabulous!
I lived down the road in Lumby. Now, 25 years ago, Vernon was a beautiful little town. Now, traffic and constant building. Has lost its charm for me. Although I will be visiting family again in a few months. The heat and fires are becoming a serious threat to many communities around Vernon.
Vernon’s downtown is not bad. I use to stop in Vernon on my way through to Kelowna to see my mom. Near the highway It does get hot, and when you’re by the highway it seem like a congested spot. I feel like it’s an odd layed out city, though I’ve never been all around the area.
It's hard for me to say about the layout as I grew up here :). I haven't heard that as a regular comment from folks, however I guess we can get used to things over time. You're right downtown is nice and has been upgraded fairly recently. Lots of cool little shops. Thanks for your comment Kyle!
I once stayed in Vernon, and enjoyed the earls, and the antique shop on the highway, it was great. I think I’m just not use to it. Seems like a huge highway runs through the centre of it, same as Kelowna. I think I’m spoiled, because I live in North Vancouver, and our highway skirts where I live. I haven’t seen the refurnished downtown. My moms moved from Kelowna so I won’t be going through there anytime soon. Though I’m a guy who likes Geology, and would like to check out the Opals of Vernon, I haven’t done that yet. When I was a kid back in the 80s my mom had baseball tournaments there. I definitely didn’t mind Vernon.☺️
@@KyleStansfeld-zi6gc You are right - the highway does run through it. That can be a drag in high summer with all the tourist traffic. I find alternate routes for sure! All the best to you and your Mom. Thanks for commenting.
Sorry. I tapped out during the weather whine. I scrolled along to see the other 4 reason. Okay. Yeah. Sure. Whatever. You missed the absolute most critical reason not to move there that is common to the entire Okanagan. Employment! Unless you are relocating to a government or government funded job or living off your RRSPs, get ready for a harsh Okanagan reality. The character of the job market is grim. If you don't land a bureaucratic government position or have connections with the drug cartels, you will either work in a service industry to the hordes of government employees wandering around or the 3 months of Alberta and Washington tourists. Want to pick fruit? Fill your socks. Want to start a coffee shop and go broke with your Vancouver equity...giver! Going to walk the streets with a resume filled with international business experience? Pack a really big lunch. Or settle for getting your real estate license. I came to the Kelowna from Vancouver 25 years ago with a pocket full of equity and a resume full of business experience. I pissed away hundreds of thousands of dollars on a business idea that failed (like most new ideas in Kelowna) and ended up consulting to my former contacts in Vancouver for the following 20 years. Bitter?? Ummm...yup. It's a long story of a steep local learning curve. Can you drive nails into 2x4s? Smooth out concrete? Can you stomach glad handing with local government officials to win government construction contracts? You're golden. There are enough equity Kings and Queens with fat wallets to fleece arriving in the Okanagan every year to keep the economy rolling. By the way Salt, your map of movement to the Okanagan points at the Chilcotin Plateau. Vernon is tough market. Alexis Creek makes Vernon look like kindergarten track meet.
Taxes are much higher in Vancouver lower mainland. Vernon is nearly 1/3rd the cost of living than Vancouver. Gasoline and diesel are also about 25 to 30 cents per litre cheaper than Vancouver.
Thank you for being honest about the weather most of the adds just tell you how great it is but not about the pitfalls so once again thank you
You’re most welcome. Thanks for watching my video!
I moved to Cranbrook BC in 94 from Alberta. I find once you get used to cruel and unusual punishment, it’s fine
I think Cranbrook is a nice little place isn't it?
@@Saltfowler yes there’s worse places . I used to work from Coleman to Pincer Creek Alberta , a few hours away , and let me tell you Cranbrook is paradise compared to there lol . When it’s blowing 10 mph it’s probably 110 in Pincher Creek
@@MajorTendonitis One of our partners Laura is from Pincher Creek. She did mention it's windy!!
@@Saltfowler lol that’s an understatement. I was hooking up a tv , and when I turned it on that show called Jeopardy was on . Alex said where’s the windiest place in the world? The answer was Pincher Creek lol . That was back in the 80’s , and it’s been changed since . They’ve gotta be at least in second place though
@MajorTendonitis , what do expect in Pincher Creek, when there's nothing to slow the wind down coming off the mountains.
Vernon’s airport is important for air ambulance, firefighting, and so on. It's also a delight for private planes. It just doesn’t have any airline service.
By Canadian standards winter in the Okanagan doesn't amount to much.
True, I remember worse winters while growing up. They seem less intense now for sure.
I left vernon 3 years ago due to the crime, drugs and homelessness.
Sorry to hear that. I think those three things are prevalent everywhere unfortunately.
@@Saltfowler I moved to Ladysmith and very little homelessness and almost no visibility of drugs, yet. Duncan on the other hand is bad
@@hiphop111fan Ahhhh I don't think I've ever been to Duncan. Although I hear Ladysmith is very nice.
Where the hell did you go , I live in kamloops and am considering Avola ,Blue River, or Valemount❤
Vernon is actually not extreme weather. I lived there for 10 years. Yes, it gets hot in the summer months, sometimes 35 to 40 degrees for a few days in a row, but winter is definitely not cold. It's usually hanging around -5 to -10 and occasionally dips to -20 to -25, however, this is a dessert area far from the ocean so the humidity is very low. It is very dry so you do not feel the cold as much through your clothes. In my opinion this video is intended to thwart foreigners and outsiders from moving to one of the most beautiful regions in Canada. Kalamalka Lake and Okanagan lake begin in Vernon, and these are amazing recreational lakes, great fishing, water skiing, and even jet boating or jet ski... is a complete joy here. This city has the most affordable real estate in the Okanagan valley so you can really keep the cost of living to a minimum. Again this is one of the best little cities to live in within Canada. If you are not sure, then go vacation there for a week first and see if you like it. There's lots to do and traffic is very easy and stress free. Lots of free parking, parks, trails, and amazing views.
My intention is the opposite! We want people to move to Vernon - I'm in the real estate business so of course we want people moving here :) However I do want to give people the straight goods on what to expect.
@@Saltfowler Your video is an innacurate critique of Vernon that dwells on insignificant things like warm summers and cool, but not even cold winters. Everywhere else in the country hits -40 degrees with 6 to 10 feet of snow. There's hardly any snow in Vernon and even -20 for a few days is entirely tolerable in such a dry climate. In other words, nothing to concern about. Summer at 35-40 degrees for a couple weeks per year is completely tolerable especially with such beautiful lakes to go swim and cool off. There are also many cities up and down the valley to visit, explore, and enjoy. Vernon is a great little city to raise a family, better than 90% of the rest of BC. Just be more honest next time and balance your content with proper information. People move there from Alberta where it snows sometimes in July... -40 for a couple months in Edmonton, Calgary... etc... and if you are a foreigner moving there Vernon will seem like paradise by comparison to India or China. Many are forced out of the Lower mainland housing markets and look to the Okanagan for financial relief from extreme taxation and endless fees, parking costs, and overpopulation. Vernon by comparison is wonderful. Just be more honest with your videos and put yourself into a Chinese or Indian persons shoes. There are also plenty of service industry and tourism industry jobs there which drive that economy. Live and work in Vernon or live in Vernon and work in Lake country or kelowna... entirely reasonable. Start a winery, start a small business... invest in a liquor store... plenty of options for Vernon to expand and grown. Most of the people in Vernon are elderly... My mother bought a house there for 120k just a few years ago... what an amazing price compared to 1.8 million for the same house in Vancouver
@@jroceastvan Believe me, I am a huge Vernon fan. If you watch our other videos, you will see all the great things about Vernon - there are so many positives. However these are the negatives from my viewpoint, from a long time Vernon born and raised resident, I cannot speak from the viewpoint of someone coming from the places you suggest as I have not lived that life. I can only share from my experience from living here almost all my life. You are welcome to disagree, however these are the negatives from my perspective which may be different than yours. I thank you for your comments, you sound like a true lover of the Okanagan, which is fabulous!
@@jroceastvanwas wonderful 35 years ago.
I lived down the road in Lumby. Now, 25 years ago, Vernon was a beautiful little town. Now, traffic and constant building. Has lost its charm for me. Although I will be visiting family again in a few months. The heat and fires are becoming a serious threat to many communities around Vernon.
Lumby is still a nice little town as well!
Vernon’s downtown is not bad. I use to stop in Vernon on my way through to Kelowna to see my mom. Near the highway It does get hot, and when you’re by the highway it seem like a congested spot. I feel like it’s an odd layed out city, though I’ve never been all around the area.
It's hard for me to say about the layout as I grew up here :). I haven't heard that as a regular comment from folks, however I guess we can get used to things over time. You're right downtown is nice and has been upgraded fairly recently. Lots of cool little shops. Thanks for your comment Kyle!
I once stayed in Vernon, and enjoyed the earls, and the antique shop on the highway, it was great. I think I’m just not use to it. Seems like a huge highway runs through the centre of it, same as Kelowna. I think I’m spoiled, because I live in North Vancouver, and our highway skirts where I live. I haven’t seen the refurnished downtown. My moms moved from Kelowna so I won’t be going through there anytime soon. Though I’m a guy who likes Geology, and would like to check out the Opals of Vernon, I haven’t done that yet. When I was a kid back in the 80s my mom had baseball tournaments there. I definitely didn’t mind Vernon.☺️
@@KyleStansfeld-zi6gc You are right - the highway does run through it. That can be a drag in high summer with all the tourist traffic. I find alternate routes for sure! All the best to you and your Mom. Thanks for commenting.
BC is hell on earth . How's Sunvalley speedway doing?
Hell on earth? In what way? Sunvalley is no longer.
Move to NS and see how high taxes are.
Super high?
I made a comment last week but I don’t see my input about tax increases for big city buildings
I'm sorry I don't see it?
@@Saltfowler Starts with “I used to live in Vernon but left in 1980’s”
Sorry. I tapped out during the weather whine. I scrolled along to see the other 4 reason. Okay. Yeah. Sure. Whatever.
You missed the absolute most critical reason not to move there that is common to the entire Okanagan.
Employment!
Unless you are relocating to a government or government funded job or living off your RRSPs, get ready for a harsh Okanagan reality.
The character of the job market is grim. If you don't land a bureaucratic government position or have connections with the drug cartels, you will either work in a service industry to the hordes of government employees wandering around or the 3 months of Alberta and Washington tourists. Want to pick fruit? Fill your socks. Want to start a coffee shop and go broke with your Vancouver equity...giver! Going to walk the streets with a resume filled with international business experience? Pack a really big lunch.
Or settle for getting your real estate license.
I came to the Kelowna from Vancouver 25 years ago with a pocket full of equity and a resume full of business experience. I pissed away hundreds of thousands of dollars on a business idea that failed (like most new ideas in Kelowna) and ended up consulting to my former contacts in Vancouver for the following 20 years.
Bitter?? Ummm...yup. It's a long story of a steep local learning curve.
Can you drive nails into 2x4s? Smooth out concrete? Can you stomach glad handing with local government officials to win government construction contracts? You're golden.
There are enough equity Kings and Queens with fat wallets to fleece arriving in the Okanagan every year to keep the economy rolling.
By the way Salt, your map of movement to the Okanagan points at the Chilcotin Plateau. Vernon is tough market. Alexis Creek makes Vernon look like kindergarten track meet.
I'm sorry for your experience with your Kelowna business. I can understand being bitter given the situation.
Taxes keep doubling no medical roads suck
I haven't experienced any of that here any more than any other cities in BC ??
All 4 seasons in one day on the prairies? What ?? 😂
I've experienced it! :)
Taxes teaxes
Everywhere!
Taxes are much higher in Vancouver lower mainland. Vernon is nearly 1/3rd the cost of living than Vancouver. Gasoline and diesel are also about 25 to 30 cents per litre cheaper than Vancouver.
It's still better than Gleichen AB 🤣😅
😂
Extreme weather? Evidently you definitely haven’t lived anywhere else.
I suppose extreme might be an "extreme" description :)
43c is pretty extreme
@@jp6614 and we had 49 in the heat dome - so you're right!
@@jp6614 For a semi desert, not so much. But yes, it can get hot, but usually hovers in the 32c to 35c area.
One big strip mall.
Vernon is? I never really felt that way, however was born and raised here. I always felt Kelowna was more like that than Vernon?
@@Saltfowler I’m definitely with you on your assessment of Kelowna. I live in Edgewood, so everything feels like a strip mall to me.