So I understand that you have zero chance of drawing with one PP. So, is it better to attempt a first time draw with zero? Or chalk up your first year as a builder of PP? Meaning, apply for general tag, buy a PP, accept that you just put yourself in a zero chance position of drawing with one PP, and then when you don’t draw, purchase the second PP to be used next application season. Then when you apply, you would have two PP, and at the time of your application, you could buy your third PP? Am I maki’s sense of this?
Correction, people with one point have zero chance of drawing a general tag . 0 points has better odds . The worst thing is you can only build two points AND if you are a dedicated applicant you get punished after you reach two points !!!!! Montana drops you back to one point after you reach two PPs !!! Montana is flush with Californians on the west side and far righters in the east . I’m sure that is going to work out really well for Montana and we are going to continue to get the smartest approach to the application process as the Californians and old Montanans work together to improve the state.
I finally reached a point in life where buying these tags isn’t a big deal anymore….at the same time…I reached a point where western hunting has become so toxic…I will no longer (according to my own convictions) be giving any western state my support. You good folks do you according to your own conscience…but I’m done.
I hear ya, I'm not far behind. Hunted in Montana 22 of past 23 years. As soon as my partner draws a coveted bull permit we are done too. Until we move there and enjoy resident prices. To each their own. Best regards to all.
i agree with you i’m done with them i’m sure the residents love hearing it but the local mom and pop buisness will not be so happy if more and more hunters feel like you and i.
@CraigFerrieri As long as wealthy non residents are willing to get bent over I mean pay a lot of money (nearing $1,400) for big game combo plus fees and bonus points, I doubt mom n pops will feel it at all. I've always heard that hunting is going towards a rich person's activity. Now I know what that means. Sad but true. Interesting to me is that it seems the higher the prices, the more non residents apply. It used to be easy to draw an A tag, not so easy anymore. I think the residents won't be too thrilled if many passionate hunters/fishers move to Montana or at least have a residence there and live there long enough each year to be considered a resident. That's when I think locals will be a bit unhappy, in general.
Folks from Montana act like every state doesn’t experience out of state tag holders. Some of the worst experiences I’ve had with other “sportsman” have been in that state. The only flaw in their attitude is that they think we care about their opinions towards those of us from out of state.
So I understand that you have zero chance of drawing with one PP. So, is it better to attempt a first time draw with zero? Or chalk up your first year as a builder of PP? Meaning, apply for general tag, buy a PP, accept that you just put yourself in a zero chance position of drawing with one PP, and then when you don’t draw, purchase the second PP to be used next application season. Then when you apply, you would have two PP, and at the time of your application, you could buy your third PP? Am I maki’s sense of this?
How do you put in for those special hunt units ?I still haven't figured that out
So I understand that you have zero chance of drawing with one PP. So, is it better to attempt a first time draw with zero? Or chalk up your first year as a builder of PP? Meaning, apply for general tag, buy a PP, accept that you just put yourself in a zero chance position of drawing with one PP, and then when you don’t draw, purchase the second PP to be used next application season. Then when you apply, you would have two PP, and at the time of your application, you could buy your third PP? Am I maki’s sense of this?
Are there any OTC options if you find some available time and make it out on a whim?
Not in MT
If i draw the elk/deer combo general license but don't draw the limited tag afterwards, can i return the general license back and get my money back?
Yes, but you do not get a 100% refund. I think it's 80% if I remember correctly.
Correction, people with one point have zero chance of drawing a general tag . 0 points has better odds . The worst thing is you can only build two points AND if you are a dedicated applicant you get punished after you reach two points !!!!! Montana drops you back to one point after you reach two PPs !!! Montana is flush with Californians on the west side and far righters in the east . I’m sure that is going to work out really well for Montana and we are going to continue to get the smartest approach to the application process as the Californians and old Montanans work together to improve the state.
If your tag isn’t drawn do you have to pay another $1000 to enter next year? Or does it rollover?
If you don't draw for this current year, you will receive your refund via the credit card you used to apply.
80% refund I believe
Montana, the Big Sky(high) State!
I finally reached a point in life where buying these tags isn’t a big deal anymore….at the same time…I reached a point where western hunting has become so toxic…I will no longer (according to my own convictions) be giving any western state my support. You good folks do you according to your own conscience…but I’m done.
I hear ya, I'm not far behind. Hunted in Montana 22 of past 23 years. As soon as my partner draws a coveted bull permit we are done too. Until we move there and enjoy resident prices. To each their own. Best regards to all.
i agree with you i’m done with them i’m sure the residents love hearing it but the local mom and pop buisness will not be so happy if more and more hunters feel like you and i.
@CraigFerrieri As long as wealthy non residents are willing to get bent over I mean pay a lot of money (nearing $1,400) for big game combo plus fees and bonus points, I doubt mom n pops will feel it at all. I've always heard that hunting is going towards a rich person's activity. Now I know what that means. Sad but true. Interesting to me is that it seems the higher the prices, the more non residents apply. It used to be easy to draw an A tag, not so easy anymore. I think the residents won't be too thrilled if many passionate hunters/fishers move to Montana or at least have a residence there and live there long enough each year to be considered a resident. That's when I think locals will be a bit unhappy, in general.
Agree to agree, Rob @@rob4263
Heres an idea hunt your own states. If you like it here so much move.
Whoa there turbo. You woke up and chose violence
Move where? I like to hunt Colorado Montana Wyoming New Mexico Utah and Idaho
Folks from Montana act like every state doesn’t experience out of state tag holders. Some of the worst experiences I’ve had with other “sportsman” have been in that state. The only flaw in their attitude is that they think we care about their opinions towards those of us from out of state.
So I understand that you have zero chance of drawing with one PP. So, is it better to attempt a first time draw with zero? Or chalk up your first year as a builder of PP? Meaning, apply for general tag, buy a PP, accept that you just put yourself in a zero chance position of drawing with one PP, and then when you don’t draw, purchase the second PP to be used next application season. Then when you apply, you would have two PP, and at the time of your application, you could buy your third PP? Am I maki’s sense of this?