Do not do this without E1 robin. otherwise u will need the acheron stat that i use in this video + going through a bunch of rng checks 6 acheron ultimates in 0 cycle is crazy though
@@JohnSmith-ri2ed jiaqiou is there for perma vuln debuff because hoolay is the fastest emeny that make pela debuff ran out quicker than jiaoqiu due to his field
@@takaginishikata2050THIS!!! People really cant foresee, we probably gonna get faster enemies in the future, maybe Hoolay is just the beginning of fast enemies. Jiaoqiu gonna be much2 better than Acheron other support for faster enemies
jiaoqiu may not be a must as i have seen e0s1 acheron getting similarly if not slightly more stacks in a fight with topaz than jiaoqiu, aventurine e0s1 might be necessary though since he has extremely high debuffs application via sig lc against hoolay who attack very frequently and mostly in the form of aoe attacks as for why i mentioned topaz here, acheron can fit into fua comp replacing dr ratio, since topaz with sig also has high debuff application on top of aven application. the acheron fua comp however is no longer having acheron as the main carry, its now a duo carry team that just works well
with that much stat she still use her ult 2 times for each HP bar. and this is the proof that this MFS will be another pain in the ass after aventurine boss
Do u think sustainless e2s1, e0s1 robin, e1s1 sparkle, and e0s1 jq can survive? damage would be higher than this i just dont know if theyre gonna survive, 4.2k atk, 50 cr and 240 cd on acheron (94 cr and 440 cd in combat)
the entire point of me using aventurine is to show that she does not need a 3rd harmony/nihility in order to 0 cycle. beside, hoolay attack so much and so hard that you literally cannot survive without a sustain
@@shira3353 I think with E0S0 S5 DDD and 168 Eagle set on Sparkle it might be possible but harder to do. I would love for you to try it but you don't have to. Assuming that Acheron 0 cycles the first wave and goes into the second wave with 5 stacks and 1 passive stack like in the video, she gets 6 stacks. E2 Acheron can go three times in a cycle with Sparkle for 9 stacks. I'll assume Aventurine only goes twice instead of three times (because no Robin) in the second cycle and generates 8 stacks like in this video since his stack generation is mostly tied to the times he gets hit. Jiaoqiu only goes twice now instead of four times (because no Robin) and generates 11 stacks instead of 13 like in the video. All together, 6+9+8+11=34 stacks, very close but 2 stacks short of 4 Acheron ults in wave 2. I think this can be fixed with better stack generation on the first wave and RNG in the second wave. Acheron can stack more on the first wave and go into the second wave with 6 stacks and 1 passive stack for +1 stack (Sparkle team will generate more stacks on first wave due to Acheron moving three times instead of two times like in this video.) Aventurine gets hit more or has better ult RNG for +1 stack (he was 5/7 at the end of the video, very close to another follow-up for another Acheron stack) The guy at 1:57 doesn't die and gives you a stack instead for +1 stack This gives us 3 more stacks for 37 stacks (more than enough) for 4 ults in the second wave just like in the video, but again this is a best case scenario with lots of assuming behind it. Maybe you could give someone an Eidolon to make up for Sparkle being E0S0 even.
2.7 million is no joke , No Idea what the fuck Hoyo Devs were thinking making this boss , they better nerf it in upcoming beta versions else older units might just be useless if they keep on adding bosses like this
2.7M hp without an MoC buff to help during the cycle is rough. Aventurine was at 2M HP and he had an MoC buff that dealt 150k dmg and gave 30% dmg bonus.
@@yofukashidayo also yunli, she has a 4 cost clear against hoolay which makes her actually cheaper than bh (who is 5 at minimum, but maybe has to go 6) so currently its fei > yunli > bh
@@sarettodn5708 not gonna lie, forgot about yunli. but yeah seeing how aggressive hoolay is i can see yunli trivializing it like it's nothing. clara could do quite well too
My acheron uses same relics pioneer and izumo but i have around 47% cr and a 278% cd 135 spd and 3100 atk , do i need more cr ? , i do have E2S1 sparkle with her team , how much cr i need to achieve 100% ?? Im also getting JQ E2S1 cuz i want the perfect team for acheron
Assuming E2 Acheron, your CR should be 91% with S1 Sparkle, so you'll need 9% more CR for your 100% CR. I'd say it's enough, but expect non-crits to happen every now and then still. IMO, your ATK's a bit low for Acheron. At least 3.5k minimum is great, but it's alright if you have DMG% Orb. Overall, great build, but it can be tweaked if you want to.
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When you realise Robin is in every 0 cycle video
Cuz she provides buffs and also Advance Forward so the team don't need to have 200+ SPD to get 3 turns on first cycle
@@nappy6969 akshually ☝️🤓
@@NorthernWind26cornball
It’s always Robin 😔
Bro you’re everywhere
time for yall to realize that robin is the xangling of star rail no matter how much u run from it she will be there always
@@obamassirname9190 don’t compare Robin to that garbage 4 star pls
@@oyfum2638but Xiangling c6 is quite amazing
@@oyfum2638xiangling ain't a bad 4 star. She still carries me in the abyss.
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blackeron is real😭
is jiaoqiu absolutely needed for ur acheron for this 0 cycle and for content in general or does pela suffice?
if you put trend on aven probably isn't necessary but that will push damage needed even higher
@@JohnSmith-ri2ed jiaqiou is there for perma vuln debuff because hoolay is the fastest emeny that make pela debuff ran out quicker than jiaoqiu due to his field
@@takaginishikata2050THIS!!! People really cant foresee, we probably gonna get faster enemies in the future, maybe Hoolay is just the beginning of fast enemies. Jiaoqiu gonna be much2 better than Acheron other support for faster enemies
jiaoqiu may not be a must as i have seen e0s1 acheron getting similarly if not slightly more stacks in a fight with topaz than jiaoqiu, aventurine e0s1 might be necessary though since he has extremely high debuffs application via sig lc against hoolay who attack very frequently and mostly in the form of aoe attacks
as for why i mentioned topaz here, acheron can fit into fua comp replacing dr ratio, since topaz with sig also has high debuff application on top of aven application. the acheron fua comp however is no longer having acheron as the main carry, its now a duo carry team that just works well
@@shira3353Me when the meta becomes purely the FuA (Robin+Aventurine+Topaz/March/Moze)
with that much stat she still use her ult 2 times for each HP bar. and this is the proof that this MFS will be another pain in the ass after aventurine boss
Do u think sustainless e2s1, e0s1 robin, e1s1 sparkle, and e0s1 jq can survive? damage would be higher than this i just dont know if theyre gonna survive, 4.2k atk, 50 cr and 240 cd on acheron (94 cr and 440 cd in combat)
i honestly dont know cuz hoolay hits too hard in my testings lol but maybe u can grind the rng and brute force him fast enough to avoid damage
@@shira3353 his main hits gonna need to land on sparkle everytime then lol, thank you for the reply though!
When will robin rerun cause its impossible to play without her
The fastest rerun is 2.6
@@romantic_Wakamo well well well
@@dskarthur8805 lol who knew she would release in 2.5
I think they are not a professional cause i think you could use something like sparkle instead of aven and 0 cycle faster
the entire point of me using aventurine is to show that she does not need a 3rd harmony/nihility in order to 0 cycle. beside, hoolay attack so much and so hard that you literally cannot survive without a sustain
@@shira3353 There is a million 0 cycle showcases without a sustain on Hoolay
cant sparkle? 😢
E2 sparkle propably can
no, robin is a must if u want to do this 0 cycle
No, I think robin's ulti is crucial to forward a whole team
@@shira3353 I think with E0S0 S5 DDD and 168 Eagle set on Sparkle it might be possible but harder to do. I would love for you to try it but you don't have to.
Assuming that Acheron 0 cycles the first wave and goes into the second wave with 5 stacks and 1 passive stack like in the video, she gets 6 stacks.
E2 Acheron can go three times in a cycle with Sparkle for 9 stacks.
I'll assume Aventurine only goes twice instead of three times (because no Robin) in the second cycle and generates 8 stacks like in this video since his stack generation is mostly tied to the times he gets hit.
Jiaoqiu only goes twice now instead of four times (because no Robin) and generates 11 stacks instead of 13 like in the video.
All together, 6+9+8+11=34 stacks, very close but 2 stacks short of 4 Acheron ults in wave 2.
I think this can be fixed with better stack generation on the first wave and RNG in the second wave.
Acheron can stack more on the first wave and go into the second wave with 6 stacks and 1 passive stack for +1 stack (Sparkle team will generate more stacks on first wave due to Acheron moving three times instead of two times like in this video.)
Aventurine gets hit more or has better ult RNG for +1 stack (he was 5/7 at the end of the video, very close to another follow-up for another Acheron stack)
The guy at 1:57 doesn't die and gives you a stack instead for +1 stack
This gives us 3 more stacks for 37 stacks (more than enough) for 4 ults in the second wave just like in the video, but again this is a best case scenario with lots of assuming behind it. Maybe you could give someone an Eidolon to make up for Sparkle being E0S0 even.
10 cost total and barely 0 cycle
looks like only boothill/feixiao can get realistic 0 cycles
2.7 million is no joke , No Idea what the fuck Hoyo Devs were thinking making this boss , they better nerf it in upcoming beta versions else older units might just be useless if they keep on adding bosses like this
2.7M hp without an MoC buff to help during the cycle is rough. Aventurine was at 2M HP and he had an MoC buff that dealt 150k dmg and gave 30% dmg bonus.
@@yofukashidayo also yunli, she has a 4 cost clear against hoolay which makes her actually cheaper than bh (who is 5 at minimum, but maybe has to go 6) so currently its fei > yunli > bh
@@sarettodn5708 not gonna lie, forgot about yunli. but yeah seeing how aggressive hoolay is i can see yunli trivializing it like it's nothing. clara could do quite well too
My acheron uses same relics pioneer and izumo but i have around 47% cr and a 278% cd 135 spd and 3100 atk , do i need more cr ? , i do have E2S1 sparkle with her team , how much cr i need to achieve 100% ?? Im also getting JQ E2S1 cuz i want the perfect team for acheron
Assuming E2 Acheron, your CR should be 91% with S1 Sparkle, so you'll need 9% more CR for your 100% CR. I'd say it's enough, but expect non-crits to happen every now and then still.
IMO, your ATK's a bit low for Acheron. At least 3.5k minimum is great, but it's alright if you have DMG% Orb. Overall, great build, but it can be tweaked if you want to.
@hershyijustshatmyself9253 I appreciate your replay and yes the orb is lightning, I still farm pioneer often as I want to perfect her 👍