Another tip for night time land nav, write your azimuths and paces on a note card. To do so, highlight it with orange highlighter, then write your azimuth numbers and pace numbers with black sharpie. It makes it much easier to see your azimuths and pace numbers without the aid of a flash light.
I found one on a trail while navigating back to home station, picked it up. It was missing about 35% of the printed ink required and I said aloud "Somebody got fucking lost" lok
Tip for land nav: If you don't have a PT belt with you, just leave your rifle laying against a tree. Your instructors will love the ingenuity. Once you find your points, make sure to pop off a few shots into the air so your instructors can come find you and grade your points. Good luck!
@@sebastianjeznach7887 I was invited back and I'm regearing to head back so its no biggie. Ive never been to rasp so I can't say for certain. They are two different programs and something to understand is sfas is only the beginning in the pipeline for green berets. Once you complete rasp, you're a ranger.
Peterson has done another good video! Several good points were made, ex. flashlight being way too bright at night and reflecting back from the map - that reflection kills night vision and if it happens again and again - it ruins your chances for seeing land features you NEED to be seeing. That clip board idea is another great idea. I've used mine and laminated front and back with copies of the general protractor and info I frequently use. In case you lose your protractor - it may help in a pinch. Bought the lamination paper at Staples. I used a small, empty Pringles can for extra erasers, pencils, lead for pencils and misc "stuff". Anything that helps YOU do your job more accurately and efficiently can be laminated right to the clipboard. At most home improvement stores like Lowes they sell zip lock bags as large as a meter square - great for maps and other gear you need dry as possible. In addition, a Weems or Alvin 306 six inch rolling straight edge rulers can quickly find the needed azimuth from anywhere on the map - they are inexpensive usually about $5. Good Luck fellow Navigators and Great job Peterson!!
good video. The only tip I would question is the double baggie thing. A clipboard is helpful, but a full one is not necessary. Trim one off to fit in one zip lock bag. Easier to work with and carry. Just my thought, thanks for the video.
Thank you Darryl! Your video was actually very helpful. I did great at land nav during SOPC and SFAS. Got super lost during a night iteration, lightening storm and torrential rain got me turned around while busting a nasty draw/ swamp. Decided SF wasn't for me, the commitment required was far more than I'm willing to give. Great experience though!
I'd be careful of that metal clip on your clipboard. If your map is attached to the clipboard and your trying to orient your map with your compass, it will throw off your azimuth. Good video.
Thank you for this, it’s been 34 years since I have done this. My stepsons all have been in the military, one was in the Army Guard as IT, the other two were in (one is still in) the Navy. The youngest is still in as a linguist and had to take SERE training. Part of all of all of their training was land nav. I found out they used GPS! I asked them what if their devices didn’t work? Thy had no answer I am a firm believer in a map, some way to keep track of ones steps and compass. Again thanks.
Wait, should a map and compass lesson is mandatory ? Like, its a basic knowledge for a soldier. I know im not an american and mocking another country armed force is not the wisest things, but i believe that your army got mocked because of the over reliance on technology
Kevin, I am a Army Veteran, I was Infantry as a primary and my secondary was 64C (driver). I used map reading every time we went out. We had GPS for military use by the planners but for the common soldier no, as the the device technology wasn’t there yet. I was told that a large explosion by a nuclear device will disrupt land based electric devices. This is why I would like to see all military members be familiar with and find targets using their map reading skills. In civilian life one of my jobs was a truck driver and yes I used a paper map as well as a GPS. I have come across in these modern times a lot of younger people in all walks of life unable to read a paper map let alone use a protractor, compass and map. I hope this makes it clearer where I’m coming from.
@@Lee784447 very clear sir, appreciate it. My teacher in civil engineering also told us the same thing, it's better to know how to do it with analog and digital equipment than only knowing how to use digital measurement.
This should help me for SFAS... Thanks man, wish I could learn a little more on Land Nav. All I now is going straight from A to B... Even if I have to swing in a straight line.
You want to waterproof your map??? Grocery store in the kitchen aisle. Get a roll of clear shelving paper. Laminate your maps yourself, easily at home. It’s great because it’s foldable and softer than having your map laminated with that hard plastic heat laminate. The shelving paper method will last a lifetime on the map. An x-army forward ground controller gave me that tip.
A 4 digit grid coordinate is an entire grid square and would only accurate to whatever point you are trying to find by a 1000 meter margin of error (an 8 digit grid coordinate has only a 10 meter margin of error). I wouldn't recommend trying to navigate with such a large margin of error, unless you are just trying to find a large location in general (i.e. a large park or something) and not necessarily a specific point on the ground. You would do it the same way with an 8 digit grid coordinate, just plot your point where the 4 digit coordinate leads you and calculate an azimuth. You could probably just plot the point directly in the middle of the grid square.
Nice video. Am picking up this perishable skill again after being out of uniform for about 15 years. Any advice on how to 1. poke a hole in the center of the protractor? and 2. how to cut the triangle that you mention around 1:25?
To poke a hole - anything small and sharp really. Tip of a razor blade / utility knife / box cutter, tip of an exacto-knife / crafting knife. All of those also work really well to cut out the triangle. I would NOT recommend scissors - usually very hard to get an even cut
Great tips! May be a stupid question, but do you have any practical advice on plotting points on the map in wet conditions? Thanks again for making this video!
+sensorpixel I've seen 2 good options for plotting in wet conditions. The method I use is to take my poncho out and cover myself underneath the poncho while I plot, and then make sure my map is always in a gallon ziploc baggie or two while I'm walking around to ensure it stays dry. I've also seen people buy map protectors and use alcohol markers to plot on top of the map protector. I don't like this method because if your map shifts at all, now you're plotting is way off. Also, the width of an alcohol marker is way wider than a 0.5mm mechanical pencil - thus making your plotting less accurate as well.
make maps at caltopo, then print onto waterproof paper. Waterproof paper will stand up to anything. Do a TH-cam search for caltopo to see some excellent tutorial videos.
don't buy a protractor with red markings, at night under a red lensed light, you can't see shit. don't learn the hard way... Edit: the RM Products one only has the back azimuth in red, so you'll do fine with that one, thats what I use
I created a Land Nav curriculum based on my military training and skills. I advertised the class for a couple of months at Outdoor Gear Shops and on Craigslist. Four people signed up. Two showed up, and one of those tried to quit by lunch time. We convinced him to stay. Essentially, most people don't want to pay and sit through two or three days of training. They want the half hour version, not realizing how insanely dangerous it is to learn a little and think they know a lot.
You will be taught basic land navigation (how to read a map, plot points, shoot an azimuth, etc). A lot of the tips/tricks I present in this video are things that I've picked up throughout my experience and can help you if you are getting stuck somewhere along the way. So many people are taught the basics but then when they get out onto a course they can't find a single point, or they can't reliably find their points. This video may help you get over that slump.
The brand is "SureFire" flashlights. You can buy them on multiple websites, just search for them on Google. Otherwise, you could also probably check a local sporting goods store that carries firearms (Surefire lights are made to be mounted onto firearms)
around 3:00 - Tying a string to the middle of your protractor to a bearing on your map is an unnecessary bit of fluff. If you have a regular baseplate compass, you can do this perfectly without the protractor at all. Here's a great video that shows you how to do it, and way too common mistakes that can result in an error of 180° : th-cam.com/video/yXYckBuKn1Q/w-d-xo.html
Doesn't work with that military compass unless the map lays flat and is oriented to the north. But yes there is a 1902 patent for using the compass and a 1933 patent for the transparent baseplate
Hold the stuff STILL if you want us to get what you're doing with it. Jerking the stuff around, in and out of frame...doesn't help your explanation/demonstration.
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Another tip for night time land nav, write your azimuths and paces on a note card. To do so, highlight it with orange highlighter, then write your azimuth numbers and pace numbers with black sharpie. It makes it much easier to see your azimuths and pace numbers without the aid of a flash light.
Excellent tip. Thank you sir/whatevathefuck brutha
You have to wonder why the military issues a protractor with that obvious defect on it. Just amazing.
To show you that anything military grade is truly garbage which is why we spend millions and billions to maintain it
Made in China.
Built by the lowest bidder.
Like just about everything in the military.
I found one on a trail while navigating back to home station, picked it up. It was missing about 35% of the printed ink required and I said aloud "Somebody got fucking lost" lok
Night vision technique; the whole scanning and peripheral was amazing! Thanks
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I loved land nav and being point man .
That whole scanning technique , is a good Ideal. I've never tried it. Thanks for the tip...
I just want to say this is a great video. I've used it in past, for refresher, and refer people to this video
Thanks!
Tip for land nav: If you don't have a PT belt with you, just leave your rifle laying against a tree. Your instructors will love the ingenuity. Once you find your points, make sure to pop off a few shots into the air so your instructors can come find you and grade your points. Good luck!
Good job at sharing a few tips and tricks!
Prepping for selection now. That really helps. Thanks.
Sfas? Did you make it?
How did it go?
@@sebastianjeznach7887 non select. Land nav got me
@@GIboy1990 Oof, I'm sorry, I wanna be a Ranger, do you think RASP is harder than SFAS or just the same?
@@sebastianjeznach7887 I was invited back and I'm regearing to head back so its no biggie. Ive never been to rasp so I can't say for certain. They are two different programs and something to understand is sfas is only the beginning in the pipeline for green berets. Once you complete rasp, you're a ranger.
Peterson has done another good video! Several good points were made, ex. flashlight being way too bright at night and reflecting back from the map - that reflection kills night vision and if it happens again and again - it ruins your chances for seeing land features you NEED to be seeing. That clip board idea is another great idea. I've used mine and laminated front and back with copies of the general protractor and info I frequently use. In case you lose your protractor - it may help in a pinch. Bought the lamination paper at Staples. I used a small, empty Pringles can for extra erasers, pencils, lead for pencils and misc "stuff". Anything that helps YOU do your job more accurately and efficiently can be laminated right to the clipboard. At most home improvement stores like Lowes they sell zip lock bags as large as a meter square - great for maps and other gear you need dry as possible. In addition, a Weems or Alvin 306 six inch rolling straight edge rulers can quickly find the needed azimuth from anywhere on the map - they are inexpensive usually about $5. Good Luck fellow Navigators and Great job Peterson!!
Good info i wish that you could have more video!
good video. The only tip I would question is the double baggie thing. A clipboard is helpful, but a full one is not necessary. Trim one off to fit in one zip lock bag. Easier to work with and carry. Just my thought, thanks for the video.
Sir, verry clear explaination .thank you ! ive got the point.
this will really help me with sfas coming up soon. thanks for the advice!
Thank you Darryl! Your video was actually very helpful. I did great at land nav during SOPC and SFAS. Got super lost during a night iteration, lightening storm and torrential rain got me turned around while busting a nasty draw/ swamp. Decided SF wasn't for me, the commitment required was far more than I'm willing to give. Great experience though!
If you’re going to SFAS you should already know what he covered in this video.
Great tips thanks for sharing, I especially like the tip for your boxing method
Very helpful tips. Thanks for taking the time to share them. - Jim
I'd be careful of that metal clip on your clipboard. If your map is attached to the clipboard and your trying to orient your map with your compass, it will throw off your azimuth. Good video.
Rubber bands or boot blousers on a board work well.
God Bless You My Dude!
Dont cut the protractor. Use an emory board to sand it down
That off center vision tip was legit
EXCELLENT VIDEO MY MAN!
Fantastic brother. Thank you.
Great tips, thanks for your time my good man.
Thank you for this, it’s been 34 years since I have done this. My stepsons all have been in the military, one was in the Army Guard as IT, the other two were in (one is still in) the Navy. The youngest is still in as a linguist and had to take SERE training. Part of all of all of their training was land nav. I found out they used GPS! I asked them what if their devices didn’t work? Thy had no answer I am a firm believer in a map, some way to keep track of ones steps and compass. Again thanks.
Wait, should a map and compass lesson is mandatory ? Like, its a basic knowledge for a soldier. I know im not an american and mocking another country armed force is not the wisest things, but i believe that your army got mocked because of the over reliance on technology
Kevin, I am a Army Veteran, I was Infantry as a primary and my secondary was 64C (driver). I used map reading every time we went out. We had GPS for military use by the planners but for the common soldier no, as the the device technology wasn’t there yet. I was told that a large explosion by a nuclear device will disrupt land based electric devices.
This is why I would like to see all military members be familiar with and find targets using their map reading skills.
In civilian life one of my jobs was a truck driver and yes I used a paper map as well as a GPS. I have come across in these modern times a lot of younger people in all walks of life unable to read a paper map let alone use a protractor, compass and map. I hope this makes it clearer where I’m coming from.
@@Lee784447 very clear sir, appreciate it. My teacher in civil engineering also told us the same thing, it's better to know how to do it with analog and digital equipment than only knowing how to use digital measurement.
A map is no good either if you don't have the right map. It's very easy to run out of map.
This should help me for SFAS... Thanks man, wish I could learn a little more on Land Nav. All I now is going straight from A to B... Even if I have to swing in a straight line.
At SFAS the fastest way to your point, is not always a straight line. Learn to terrain associate well, take your time and you'll do fine.
All you now or all you know?
@@bratz2 all I no
You want to waterproof your map??? Grocery store in the kitchen aisle. Get a roll of clear shelving paper. Laminate your maps yourself, easily at home. It’s great because it’s foldable and softer than having your map laminated with that hard plastic heat laminate. The shelving paper method will last a lifetime on the map. An x-army forward ground controller gave me that tip.
Excellent!
Thanks for sharing
Thank you so much Sir for all the information. Please, how do you find magnetic azimuth of four digit grid coordinates?
A 4 digit grid coordinate is an entire grid square and would only accurate to whatever point you are trying to find by a 1000 meter margin of error (an 8 digit grid coordinate has only a 10 meter margin of error). I wouldn't recommend trying to navigate with such a large margin of error, unless you are just trying to find a large location in general (i.e. a large park or something) and not necessarily a specific point on the ground. You would do it the same way with an 8 digit grid coordinate, just plot your point where the 4 digit coordinate leads you and calculate an azimuth. You could probably just plot the point directly in the middle of the grid square.
@@TJPeterson09 Absolutely correct.
Very informative thank you.
Good stuff.
How do you plot with the round protractor since its reading left to right, not right to left.
great video
Ty for the video!!!
Nice video. Am picking up this perishable skill again after being out of uniform for about 15 years. Any advice on how to 1. poke a hole in the center of the protractor? and 2. how to cut the triangle that you mention around 1:25?
To poke a hole - anything small and sharp really. Tip of a razor blade / utility knife / box cutter, tip of an exacto-knife / crafting knife. All of those also work really well to cut out the triangle. I would NOT recommend scissors - usually very hard to get an even cut
Thanks. I'm in Japan and don't want to destroy the protractor I have and then need to order a new one.
Great tips! May be a stupid question, but do you have any practical advice on plotting points on the map in wet conditions? Thanks again for making this video!
+sensorpixel I've seen 2 good options for plotting in wet conditions. The method I use is to take my poncho out and cover myself underneath the poncho while I plot, and then make sure my map is always in a gallon ziploc baggie or two while I'm walking around to ensure it stays dry. I've also seen people buy map protectors and use alcohol markers to plot on top of the map protector. I don't like this method because if your map shifts at all, now you're plotting is way off. Also, the width of an alcohol marker is way wider than a 0.5mm mechanical pencil - thus making your plotting less accurate as well.
make maps at caltopo, then print onto waterproof paper. Waterproof paper will stand up to anything. Do a TH-cam search for caltopo to see some excellent tutorial videos.
don't buy a protractor with red markings, at night under a red lensed light, you can't see shit. don't learn the hard way...
Edit: the RM Products one only has the back azimuth in red, so you'll do fine with that one, thats what I use
Tape your map with clear tape
Ranger joe protractor is where it's at
What are the benefits of going with a circle protactor?
F'ing mind blowing. Thank you!
where can I buy those protractors at because I cannot find them
Boy i need some tutoring on this lol
I created a Land Nav curriculum based on my military training and skills. I advertised the class for a couple of months at Outdoor Gear Shops and on Craigslist. Four people signed up. Two showed up, and one of those tried to quit by lunch time. We convinced him to stay. Essentially, most people don't want to pay and sit through two or three days of training. They want the half hour version, not realizing how insanely dangerous it is to learn a little and think they know a lot.
notice the number of items. in the packets.
...was my Peterson Brave!
Anyone have advice for RASP land Nav course?
They will teach us all of tgat stuff right?
You will be taught basic land navigation (how to read a map, plot points, shoot an azimuth, etc). A lot of the tips/tricks I present in this video are things that I've picked up throughout my experience and can help you if you are getting stuck somewhere along the way. So many people are taught the basics but then when they get out onto a course they can't find a single point, or they can't reliably find their points. This video may help you get over that slump.
How can i buy that flashlight? sir.
The brand is "SureFire" flashlights. You can buy them on multiple websites, just search for them on Google. Otherwise, you could also probably check a local sporting goods store that carries firearms (Surefire lights are made to be mounted onto firearms)
Thank you sir
I was company level 0341. We didn't have that equip. Compass and map.thats it
are all army marine personnel learn this navigation ?
Sasuke Namikaze army marine ......
around 3:00 - Tying a string to the middle of your protractor to a bearing on your map is an unnecessary bit of fluff. If you have a regular baseplate compass, you can do this perfectly without the protractor at all. Here's a great video that shows you how to do it, and way too common mistakes that can result in an error of 180°
: th-cam.com/video/yXYckBuKn1Q/w-d-xo.html
Doesn't work with that military compass unless the map lays flat and is oriented to the north. But yes there is a 1902 patent for using the compass and a 1933 patent for the transparent baseplate
I know it's not a big deal but you seem to be moving the pace beads in the wrong direction everyone I've ever seen pulls them down.
No way I'd use that spiral method at night.
With a compass and at right angles, why not?
R u fuckin kidden me u have to buy ur equipment?
Videos useless if you don’t know anything about navigation to begin with.
Hold the stuff STILL if you want us to get what you're doing with it. Jerking the stuff around, in and out of frame...doesn't help your explanation/demonstration.
My apologies, this is one of my first youtube videos. Thanks for the constructive feedback.