Found this Vid after several Searches on "features" "Gyro" etc so THANK YOU for Talkin Tech !! I'm looking at decades of working parts, and want to add stabilization to scratch build a 400mm Wing Slope Soar-er -yes SQUIRRELY may be its name
John: You got a lot of great discussion and ideas from this video. Your discussion cleared the fog for me again. Questions: 1) What is the Detrum system using for operating system? Is it OpenTX? Is it 4 in 1 compatible, or strictly proprietary? 2) What stabilization system is the lightest for
1) Detrum is proprietary. Their graphics and fonts look like pictures I've seen from Spektrum radios, but I have no idea if there is a relation. 2) Kopilot Lite www.banggood.com/custlink/3GKEFNKVZm That's an interesting video concept, but it would be a lot to chew. Here's what I would suggest: 1) Basic Small Beginner: Kopilot Lite 2) Fixed Wing: Matek F722-WPX or later with iNav. 3) Multrotor: Too many options to list: F7 board or later with Baro, GPS, Current Sensor, Bluetooth and Betaflight. That's my current strategy. You can find videos for most of this equipment on my channel already.
I am glad u chose not to use my name as the confused individual. I am giving u plenty of topics to clarify in ur reports. Thanxs for straightening out my confusion . Another learning video.
Just look at it this way, if you weren't sure, someone else wasn't sure either. Let me know when you get your stabilizer and I'll help you make sure it's setup correctly.
This was very useful. I've been looking at videos for info on gyros, stablizers, and combo receiver with stabilizers. I'm new to fixed wing and would like to have some assistance until I feel more comfortable flying. There are so many different ways to achieve this that it'd daunting to figure out what's a good way to start without having to spend a lot.
do you know if the spektrum safe units are stand stand alone flight controllers or are they only compatible with spektrum transmitter, my carbon cub s2 has what looks like a safe flight controller and a receiver they are 2 separate devices in the plane stock.
John, very informative. as always. I found this video and I am very nterested in using stabilization, flight control and telemetry, if possible using only one device. By the way, what is the sbus device that you have connected to your stabilizer? Is there any integrated rx similar to the Detrum that can be used with the TX16S? Regards
The S6R is an integrated stabilizer and receiver. It does not have Return to Home or GPS flight modes. Just wind rejection and auto leveling. The Detrum SR86A/G is an integrated receiver/controller/gps/rth. I believe there are a couple of iNav based Flight Controllers like the Omnibus F4 Fireworks: www.getfpv.com/frsky-rxsr-fc-omnibus-f4-fireworks-v2-flight-controller-w-integrated-r-xsr.html That is a full on flight controller with integrated Rx.
I'm still confused. Video title says 'flight controller" but that's not even mentioned once in the video dialogue - flight computers are discussed though. Is a flight computer the same thing as a flight controller??
Absolutely. The only thing you need to do is ensure the output from the receiver is supported by the input of the stabilizer. i.e. If your receiver only outputs PWM, your stabilizer must support PWM input. If your receiver only outputs s.bus, your stabilizer must support s.bus input. To the best of my knowledge, all stabilizers provide PWM output to the servos and ESC if throttle is supported.
Not direct to the FC, the FC requires a receiver (Rx) between it and the transmitter (Tx). I have used a TX16s and an SBUS receiver in front of the Deterum FC though, and it works fine.
Hey good video indeed! I have a HLK31 plane that it comes with flight stabilizer but I cannot make it work with my flysky receiver FS-IA6. Can you please let me know how to plug flight stabilizer and receiver? Many thanks!
Hi John. If you update your link for the Blitz DT-9 and SR86A-G happy to click through. Hopefully they deliver to Australia. Quick question I am getting a FMS Super EZ PNP delivered which comes with reflex stabilization. I won't need that will I? I am happy with not using the reflex.. The combo will get me ready for flying without any more receivers etc.. correct ? Thanks John
I updated the links in the video, thanks for letting me know. If they don't support shipping from their website, send an email to info@bitgohobby.com and let them know what you need. I know they've helped others out with international shipping. Best of luck with it. Both the iStone and Z3 are solid stabilizers.
I would like to watch a very simple "how-to" video that shows how to connect my Hitec Optima 2.5GHz receivers to a basic stabilizing device and transmitter channel on/off switch assignment, that would help me fly my medium sized electric powered scale models enjoyably in typical windy conditions, without much risk of takeoff and landing damage. I dislike a 45 minute drive to the field only to have unpredictable wind come up force me pack up and leave.
That one I don't know. If I were going to experiment with something like this, I would probably be thinking about an autopilot with return to home and I would initially want to connect the turret pan servo to the rudder output of the autopilot. But that's just spitballing.
Maybe a heading lock gyro from a heli tail rotor? Just a guess, but trail and experiment. There are also gyroscope available for drifting rc cars that keep the front wheels pointing were needed. Hope my ideas help point you in the direction you're wanting
Not really--both devices will want to manipulate surface deflection, so you'd wind up with some conflict. I suppose you could wire them in series and make it work, but it would probably be smarter to decide what you want to do then decide if you can do it with a stabilizer or if a full flight computer is required. I have heard of hybrid setups using a stab and flight computer together, but not for control purposes.
A buddy of mine used an F4 drone controller for OSD and power on a min talon equipped with a Kopilot Lite for flight control. So I'd say yes if you know how to wire things correctly.
Found this Vid after several Searches on "features" "Gyro" etc so THANK YOU for Talkin Tech !!
I'm looking at decades of working parts, and want to add stabilization to scratch build a 400mm Wing Slope Soar-er -yes SQUIRRELY may be its name
There are so many great options for stabilizers right now. Matek controllers and Kopilot Lite are amazing for the money.
The Detrum system is really nice and the prices are decent too.
Their stabilizer platform is very good. I have no complaints. Works as advertised.
John:
You got a lot of great discussion and ideas from this video. Your discussion cleared the fog for me again.
Questions:
1) What is the Detrum system using for operating system? Is it OpenTX? Is it 4 in 1 compatible, or strictly proprietary?
2) What stabilization system is the lightest for
1) Detrum is proprietary. Their graphics and fonts look like pictures I've seen from Spektrum radios, but I have no idea if there is a relation.
2) Kopilot Lite www.banggood.com/custlink/3GKEFNKVZm
That's an interesting video concept, but it would be a lot to chew. Here's what I would suggest:
1) Basic Small Beginner: Kopilot Lite
2) Fixed Wing: Matek F722-WPX or later with iNav.
3) Multrotor: Too many options to list: F7 board or later with Baro, GPS, Current Sensor, Bluetooth and Betaflight.
That's my current strategy. You can find videos for most of this equipment on my channel already.
I am glad u chose not to use my name as the confused individual. I am giving u plenty of topics to clarify in ur reports.
Thanxs for straightening out my confusion . Another learning video.
Just look at it this way, if you weren't sure, someone else wasn't sure either. Let me know when you get your stabilizer and I'll help you make sure it's setup correctly.
This is far better than losing the plane.
Yeah, RTL has come a long way.
The voice of reason.
Thanks ;)
This was very useful. I've been looking at videos for info on gyros, stablizers, and combo receiver with stabilizers. I'm new to fixed wing and would like to have some assistance until I feel more comfortable flying. There are so many different ways to achieve this that it'd daunting to figure out what's a good way to start without having to spend a lot.
Glad it was helpful!
do you know if the spektrum safe units are stand stand alone flight controllers or are they only compatible with spektrum transmitter, my carbon cub s2 has what looks like a safe flight controller and a receiver they are 2 separate devices in the plane stock.
New lights. Much better.
David Knutz Thanks Dave. I still think I need more lights though. Im learning that lighting for video is an art form.
Can i ise detruo with radiomaster tx16 or jumper t18 multiprotocol transmitters? They got FHSS
I think that the speedybee f405 wing app is better then all of them
John, very informative. as always. I found this video and I am very nterested in using stabilization, flight control and telemetry, if possible using only one device. By the way, what is the sbus device that you have connected to your stabilizer? Is there any integrated rx similar to the Detrum that can be used with the TX16S? Regards
The S6R is an integrated stabilizer and receiver. It does not have Return to Home or GPS flight modes. Just wind rejection and auto leveling. The Detrum SR86A/G is an integrated receiver/controller/gps/rth. I believe there are a couple of iNav based Flight Controllers like the Omnibus F4 Fireworks: www.getfpv.com/frsky-rxsr-fc-omnibus-f4-fireworks-v2-flight-controller-w-integrated-r-xsr.html That is a full on flight controller with integrated Rx.
@@RCVideoReviews John, I believe FrSky protocol is now "almost" out of the scope in the TX16S internal multiprotocol unit, isn't it?
@@enriquech4041 No..? I'm unaware of any effort to reduce or eliminate FrSky support on the MPM.
@@RCVideoReviews I mean the new ACCESS protocol vs the old ACCST from FrSky
@@enriquech4041 ACCESS is only compatible with FrSky ACCESS radios, not the MPM. S6Rs are still sold with ACCST firmware.
Is the Gyro used to detect objects ?
No, it has an accelerometer and depending on the mode being used, it reacts and manipulates outputs to the control surfaces.
IS that the same as the Gyros like in my Drone that make the drone stop flying if it hits a surface?@@RCVideoReviews
I'm still confused. Video title says 'flight controller" but that's not even mentioned once in the video dialogue - flight computers are discussed though. Is a flight computer the same thing as a flight controller??
A flight controller is a computer.
Can we use a stand alone stabilizer with a flysky fsi6 6ch transmitter and receiver?
Absolutely. The only thing you need to do is ensure the output from the receiver is supported by the input of the stabilizer. i.e. If your receiver only outputs PWM, your stabilizer must support PWM input. If your receiver only outputs s.bus, your stabilizer must support s.bus input. To the best of my knowledge, all stabilizers provide PWM output to the servos and ESC if throttle is supported.
@@RCVideoReviews thanks a lot for the query....👍🏻
You're most welcome.
do you think that radiomaster t16s can connect to that detrum flight controller? Thanks
Not direct to the FC, the FC requires a receiver (Rx) between it and the transmitter (Tx). I have used a TX16s and an SBUS receiver in front of the Deterum FC though, and it works fine.
Hey good video indeed!
I have a HLK31 plane that it comes with flight stabilizer but I cannot make it work with my flysky receiver FS-IA6.
Can you please let me know how to plug flight stabilizer and receiver?
Many thanks!
Hi John. If you update your link for the Blitz DT-9 and SR86A-G happy to click through. Hopefully they deliver to Australia. Quick question I am getting a FMS Super EZ PNP delivered which comes with reflex stabilization. I won't need that will I? I am happy with not using the reflex.. The combo will get me ready for flying without any more receivers etc.. correct ? Thanks John
I updated the links in the video, thanks for letting me know. If they don't support shipping from their website, send an email to info@bitgohobby.com and let them know what you need. I know they've helped others out with international shipping.
Best of luck with it. Both the iStone and Z3 are solid stabilizers.
I would like to watch a very simple "how-to" video that shows how to connect my Hitec Optima 2.5GHz receivers to a basic stabilizing device and transmitter channel on/off switch assignment, that would help me fly my medium sized electric powered scale models enjoyably in typical windy conditions, without much risk of takeoff and landing damage. I dislike a 45 minute drive to the field only to have unpredictable wind come up force me pack up and leave.
what if I want to use a stabilizer to keep a turret facing the same way ?
That one I don't know. If I were going to experiment with something like this, I would probably be thinking about an autopilot with return to home and I would initially want to connect the turret pan servo to the rudder output of the autopilot. But that's just spitballing.
Maybe a heading lock gyro from a heli tail rotor? Just a guess, but trail and experiment. There are also gyroscope available for drifting rc cars that keep the front wheels pointing were needed. Hope my ideas help point you in the direction you're wanting
can I combine both stabilizer and flight controller?
Not really--both devices will want to manipulate surface deflection, so you'd wind up with some conflict. I suppose you could wire them in series and make it work, but it would probably be smarter to decide what you want to do then decide if you can do it with a stabilizer or if a full flight computer is required.
I have heard of hybrid setups using a stab and flight computer together, but not for control purposes.
So coming from the drone world.. is it possible to use a drone flight controller on an rc plane?
A buddy of mine used an F4 drone controller for OSD and power on a min talon equipped with a Kopilot Lite for flight control. So I'd say yes if you know how to wire things correctly.