Lenovo System x3650 M4 - Overview of a Used Server - 459
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- Lenovo System x3650 M4 Is the server that is going to be taking over production at My PlayHouse. It is the plan that it will be the main 24/7 server,, in a few upgrades :-)
Link to New Lenovo x3650 M4 7915 - amzn.to/2j0MSII
Here are the specs:
Model x3650 M4
Form/Chassis type Rack-mountable - 2U
Processor 2x Xeon Quad-Core
Processor Type Intel®
Processor Speed Xeon® Six-Core E5-2609 2.40 GHz
Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Memory 32 GB
Hard Disk Capacity 2 x 146GB
Video Adapter Matrox G200eR2
Video RAM 16 MB
Ports - Serial 1 x serial
Ports - USB 6 x USB 2.0
Ports - RJ-45 4 x RJ-45
1 x management
Ports - Monitor 2 x VGA port
Dimensions
Width 44.5 cm (17.52 inches)
Depth 74.6 cm (29.37 inches)
Height 8.6 cm (3.39 inches)
Weight 25 kg (55.12 lb)
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Hi Morten!
I'm from Hungary. What a surprise for me to see a Hungarian invoice in your video!
Keep going, best server videos on TH-cam!
Hi Martin Szecskó
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
0:50 "All of this good shhhh... STUFF" Nice save. ;)
Awesome server! Can't wait to see it in action.
When i'm a big boy, i think i'm gonna want one too.
Hi Henk Kok
Time is no your side, on that one!!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Congratulations on acquiring one of these servers, Morten. Here in the U.S. when I last looked at used ones to purchase, they were still selling for around $1,000 and up depending on configurations. I shall be excited to see all of your upgrades and ninja hacks to this server!
Hi Tyler Barton
Thank You very much! Well It will be growing :-) they are still expensive here to.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Good overview :-) I have just bought the X3650 M4 to complement my existing X3650 M3 in my smalll home network.
Hi Smart Home Domain
Thank You very much! You picked the right hardware brand :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
16:25 - If it's similar to older models the connector is more likely the backplane-management. I upgraded a M2ish some time ago to 12 bay and am pretty sure the IBM-kit contained a Y-cable for power.
I recently purchased a pair of Intel Xeon E5-2970's, 8-core 16-thread 2.6GHz (turbo 3.3GHz) socket LGA2011 processors. I don't know if they would be compatible with your server but they're ridiculously cheaper than Intel's recommended price (because they're old: Intel "End of Life") I picked them up for $400USD($200USD each) and plan to use them in a overkill home data server.
I realize it is kind of off topic but do anybody know a good place to stream new tv shows online?
@Brendan Harlan try flixzone. You can find it by googling =)
cannot wait to see this in action
got a nice one Morten, have a bunch of those running in Datacenter on maximum BuildtoOrder with 768GB of ram & some mixed SAS / SSD Power good for hosting to:)
The internal USB near the Onboard Raid istfor using when you've got a tape drive for backups like LTO 5-to-7.
Awesome server. it will run very nice on a couple of cheap e5 2670 (8 core 16 threads of pure sweetness)
edit: the connector on 16:39 looks like a USB 3 header.
Exactly what I was thinking, 2670's would make this server a powerhouse. My concern would be the power supplies handling it though. My dual 2670's build pulls well over 750w but that's running a gfx card, and a lot more other stuff that this server isn't running. With the 550w PS's in this server I do think it would be taxing them.
I have this server (3 of them actually) with dual 2670's from the factory, they are equipped with dual 750 watt PSU's instead of the 550's here. I'm running one firepro W7100, one W5100 and a V3900 in one and never ran into any power troubles. I only have 6 drive bays occupied though, I would suspect adding more drives would stress it.
Hi Douglas R. Andreani
Thank You very much! I won an ebay action this morning, of two E5-2660 v1
Thank you for watching! :-)
Joe72Bug Awesome comment and facts.
My PlayHouse Seems a great pairing to me as long as you're mindful of your power supplies. It wouldn't hurt to meter the wattage pulled from the wall during a stress test after the cpu change to see how close you're getting to that 550w.
I run a lot of things you won't be to pull 750w, a gtx980, water cooling, lighting, 10 drives and have all 7 pci slots in use. Motherboard I/O and power delivery pretty much maxed.
I think your choice of 2660's is just about perfect to max out them power supplies. Goodluck!
Anthony M
I do not need to run every thing in just one server. You can change the PSU´s from redundant to double and get more power and no reduantens. Well lets see how long I get with 550W
Hej Morten. Tak for de gode videoer! Jeg har siddet og kigget dine videoer igennem. Jeg synes at jeg kunne huske at du havde sat almindelige Samsung SSD´er i en X3650M4. Eller tager jeg fejl? God weekend. Mvh. Dennis
HI Dennis Hofmann
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Please keep to English.
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Hi John Doe
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
A little over $780 US Dollars. That's out of my price range but sure looks like a nice piece of gear. One of these days you should do a video comparing the different models of x3650. That is if you haven't already. I've not been able to find one on your channel yet. lol.
Hi hallis1
The Lenovo x3650 M4 is not that old,, so still a bit pricey..
Thank you for watching! :-)
Thank you for the contend, Morten. I just backed you on Patreon :)
Wow, I can't find any servers like that for anywhere near that price in Australia.
Forever stuck with HP Proliant DL380 G5's
Hi Caza397
No I had been looking for ½ a year!!
Thank you for watching! :-)
Nice video, realy cool. I am thinking to buy one myself, using it for render jobs. You been able to plug a GPU in yet? And how about power for a GPU than?
Hi reLINEsoft
Thank You very much! I haven't put in the GPU yet,, but there is two 8pin power plugs for it :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
I called it! Before christmas I asked if Santa was going to get you a new server, and he did!
Nice server. I use consumer grade parts for my servers since I don't have anything critical on them. I will have to upgrade one of the servers since I will be putting Freenas on it.
Excellent video as usual! Been looking at Lenovo servers since seeing them in action on your videos. Regarding drives, the selection of drives that Lenovo offer on their servers is obviously a bit limited and massively pricey, is there any reason not to choose my own enterprise type drives and stick them into empty caddies? A drive is a drive really and Lenovo ones are just other mfr's rebranded. they don't make it obvious about warranties and getting empty caddies!
Hi wezrauk
Thank You very much! I put Samsung SSD´s in a x3650 M4 in this video : th-cam.com/video/wxp2sfqJVD8/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for watching! :-)
nice! you got an m4
Indeed
The extra USB connector is likely yo be the connector for the backup tape drive.
what CPU's are you planning to use to upgrade this server and how much memory?
Love to see your video's
Hi Geert Pirens
Thank You very much! I won an ebay action this morning, of two E5-2660 v1
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hey Morten,
I'm back, why you blacked out that fields?
Sweet, and it seems to be very roomy :)
Hi Unkyjoe's Playhouse
Yes,, need a bit of parts,,, riser card, Ram, and CPU´s,, but all will make good videos :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
DANG! You can put two 12 core (24 thread) CPUs in that bad boy !!!
You can , but if Mr Playhouse is going to do what i think he is he would be best with frequency optimised CPUs
Hi Andrew Joy
What E5-26xx v2 would you go for?
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse E5-2643 v2
is the Frequency optimised 6 core version , if your going to be putting a GPU in it and using it for rendering thats what i would go for . Most video rendering software still only uses a few cores so the clock speed will give better performance.
E5 2670 A Really Awesome Powerful and Cheap Processor
I got two E5-2660 this morning on an ebay action. €100
Good morning mate.
All right ?
I'm from Brazil, and my English level is basic, so I write through Google translator.
I always follow your videos, and I confess that your content helps me a lot.
I would like to ask for help regarding the Server here at the company where I am responsible.
We have an IBM System X3650 M4, where we have made several memory, disk and processor upgrades.
Today, all disks are in RAID 0, that is, each disk represents a unit.
My C: drive (disk 0) is experiencing some issues. And my doubt is, how to make a clone of this disk and replace it correctly with a new disk.
My controller is the M5110e, and I'm struggling to get it successfully.
Any tips or suggestions?
Thank you very much for now.
Hugs from a fan, here in Brazil.
Hi Guilherme Henrique Castro
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
they are in good price on ebay im also looking at them to be my 2nd server
I just found one of these at work that I can take. I’m guessing in 2022 this is just completely underpowered? Or is having server grade hardware still worth it, even if it’s updated? My other choice for a Plex server is an Optiplex with an i5-5700.
The x3650 M4 is a really good and strong server,, if you put a couple of good CPU's in,, it is very powerfull.
So cool
I found one of these on eBay for about $600 USD but it's stripped down, only one Quad core processor and 4GB of RAM.
I will be interesting when the new servers come out that can take 3x 36 core AMD ZEN processors and 1x 32 Compute cores and 16 GCNs AMD APU which means no need for a graphics card as a graphics card and True audio sound card is integrated into the AMD ZEN APU.
Hi DAVID GREGORY KERR
That sounds cool!! that will take a bit before it hits the used marked :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Of cause it will work :-D.
What an odd colour to use as a warning, i would have expected bright red to indicate danger, like in the animal kingdom.
One tip do not buy the ES marked e5 2600 chips on eBay there engineering samples and are no good. Fun fact i just bought a dell r720 which is almost the same as that ibm, also supports e5 2600 v1 and v2 processors and also has 24 dimm slots :)
I want to replace my Dell 2950 was looking at the R710 i see you are a big fan of IBM as you said they have never broken yet. My concern is the noise i will have it in my office. Do you think the noise level would compare to the Dell it seems from watching videos that model is very quite,
Hi Mike Witteveen
The Dell 2950 is very noisy,,, the IBM´s are way more quit,, they all makes a lot of noise when powered on, but slows down.
Thank you for watching! :-)
I recently bought an IBM x3550 M3, I put dual Intel Xeon x5687's @3.6-3.86ghz, and 128GB of DDR3 ECC 1333MHz memory, I got a 120gb ssd, 240gb ssd, and 1tb 2.5 inch drive in it, any idea what i should use it for? I put vmware on it, but i dont have much use for it atm.
I take these apart at work
We moved one at work,, it had been running for just over 2200 hours,, non stop.
Morten! In 2014 we purchased two of em. In 2021 June one failed. The BOARD is constantly blinking and it never start anymore. Now we are going to purchase one used IBM x3650 m4. Without SAS hdds. If we insert hdds from damaged server, into newly purchased, does it supposed to run windows 2008 r2 and SQL server data center which were on the hdds?
See this : th-cam.com/video/zl4iDxGD7cQ/w-d-xo.html
I was wondering if you have looked at some performance charts for the CPU, often newer CPU's are more effective, even though that Ghz is lower or they have less cores. I looked at the passmark score for the CPU's currently installed, and it says
Average CPU Mark 4591
Single Thread Rating: 1224
What is the score for the CPUs you have in your x3650 M3 ?
That was my same question. I wish that he would cover some of that, such as performance issues.
Hi Stefan Ditlev Jønsson
Thank You very much! My 24/7 x3650 M3 has two Intel Xeon X5680 @ 3.33GHz,, that scores 8805 with a Single Thread Rating: 1447
I won an ebay action this morning of two E5-2660 v1
Thank you for watching! :-)
Ah Nice, about same single thread performance, but with 2 more cores each :)
And probably alot more power efficient :)
Stefan Ditlev Jønsson
From thread performance of 1224 to 1447 is actually an improvement of 18% + two more cores :-) and the new E5-2660 is close to just two cores more compared to the x5680
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hello, what's the difference between x3650 M4 7915 and x3650 M4 BD 5466?
Hi Pingpongen5
Good question! the x3650 M4 BD 5466 is especially designed to have up to 12 x 3.5" drivers in front and two in the back and instead of 24 ram slots it has 16,, so more of an storages server. and really good for large amounts of hyperconverged storages solutions.
lenovopress.com/tips1102-system-x3650-m4-bd
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi Morten, now I have 8 drives in Raid10, but soon it will be expanded to 16 drives in Raid10. I need to make fast backups for my VMs. I want to put one more HDD SAS Drive - 17 (for Veem Backup storage) !!!.Wow I wonder if I put a normal 2.5'''SAS drive instead DVD ROM drive. What do you think? Is is possible?
Hi Dobromir Dobrev
Thank You very much! Yes it is possible.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Nice server
Hi fxleroy
Thank You very much! glad you liked the video :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hello Morten
I have a question I bought a used IBM x3650 m4 on Ebay for 62€, but it doesn't have a cover. Is there a way to buy one somewhere? because I can't find it anywhere.
Ask a Server broker,, but it would most likely cost more than the rest :-/
@@MyPlayHouse Hm that's Bad :( but thank you for the answer.
Hey
Long shot but can you run this server with no fans? I'm thinking of getting it and then replacing cooling with normal PC quiet cooler but not sure if there are any safety guards that will shut down server if fan is missing...
Hi Dariusz Mąkowski
NO it will not run witout fans.
Thank you for watching! :-)
Hi. Hope all is well. Have you ever setup m4 server from start before. I got one but is still configured from previous owner. I need to wipe OS and so fresh install.
I have done a lot of video on the Awesome Lenovo x3650 M4,, look for BOMC,, for firmware updateing.
@@MyPlayHouse hi. I found them. I working my way through them. Just making bootable iso now to update firmware. Thank you.
Can you convert these to a 3.5 inch disk I got one for really cheap but wanted to see if it could be used as storage server
If you’re server uses 3.5” drives,, they will usually work.
Where do you purchase ibm stuff, on ebay is 100-150€ more than hp dell stuff
With a little luck : www.ebay.com/itm/314366397836
@@MyPlayHouse rare! keep in mind
Does the x3650 M4 work out of the box with esxi 7.0 and the current updates?
Yes the CPU in the x3650 M4 is new enough,,, it may not be supported by Lenovo or VMware, but works.
@@MyPlayHouse Does this include the storage controllers and nic's as well?
does anyone know, is the j21 / sys-pwr connector from psu a standard atx powersupply pinlayout?
I do not know.
will you be able to upgrade it in a way it is higher spec-ed than your model 3 ?
Hi Maico
Keep watching!!
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse ofcourse :)
Very Good Video
Thank you! I have made quite a few videos on both the awesome x3650 M4 and other Lenovo/ IBM Servers.
Hi Morten do you have the firmware files for this server by any chance ??
www.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/systemx/selectFixes?parent=System%20x3650%20M4&product=ibm/systemx/7915&&platform=All&function=all
Do u also sell old hardware, like old Quad Core Xeons?
Finally they stopped using all those baffles and crap and made it similar to the dell r710 kind of servers
bojler eladó!!
Mennyiért?
HI Tamás Végvári
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So please keep to English.
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Hi Morten,
It's just a hungarian "joke", when we see hungarian content in foreign languages videos :)
Btw, I think you sould review one of these chenbro servers from natex, it's look a very great deal too.
www.natex.us/Chenbro-Intel-S2600CP2J-p/rm13704package-128gb.htm
I really would like to know what's exactly inside the case
pls sir how do i get the firm ware update of dis server
Here : www.ibm.com/support/fixcentral/systemx/selectFixes?parent=System%20x3650%20M4&product=ibm/systemx/7915&&platform=NONE&function=all
Do you have already a fanpage on TH-cam?
No what is that?
You will see very soon... (it's a youtube channel with clips and edits of your videos)
you enter the new server relm. this is new. Lets Shove 8 ssd's in this puppy and see the IO fly through the roof.
Hi Chris Lowe
Thank You very much! Yes we will get to that :-)
Thank you for watching! :-)
Ye more power consume kurte pur output Dell jesa nqhi dete
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i read hungarian if you need any help
Hi Viktor Madarasz
Thank You very much! Nahh I am good, I do not think there was anything I needed to know.
Thank you for watching! :-)
My PlayHouse their price is good...i have to hold myself back not to get a similar one for 1200€
€649 was a good prices,, here is tha same for €799 : www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-Server-System-x3650-M4-QC-Xeon-E5-2609-2-4GHz-16GB-8xSFF-/391618750733?hash=item5b2e4be90d:g:HGwAAOSwXeJYItrt
and even that is cheap.
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Ye system tugde hote pur performance me Dell se peeche
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Technology me hulka peeche he esliye esa
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