@@chriissemmel383 oh nvm I’m tweakin lmao. I forgot it was only for the major when I commented that. One thing I will say is I think AppJack and chronic should be switched but other than that fire list
I respect it. Chicago could be higher though and AcroniK definitely needs to be there. I get Oski and Atow are great players but they aren't very far ahead of him. It's hard to separate them.
I agree Acronik is insane, but on this roster he’s not the one to shine. I think his role is to stay kind of in the background and let the other two show out. On almost any other team he would be a standout top 10 player, as would the rest of Liquid
Only thing id change is that, for this split, id swap Archie and Atomic. Archie has really had to step up with Rise being injured and he looks gross in groups then Rise takes over in bracket
I think you might under rate where AppJack was in EU. I don't think he got crazy better mechanically in NA, he just fulfils a different role in this team. Saying that, I don't mind where you placed him now, so swings and roundabouts I guess
that’s what i always think. jack was really good and there’s proof of that in how he dominated one’s at the time with his mechanics and game sense the only reason some might view him as not being so is because of the team performance. the team did not have any cohesion and scrub was underperforming so jack couldn’t do too much for them so instead he dominated ones and waited until the new season so he could find a new team that he works well with in which he can dominate rlcs
Love to hear what you said about reys, i think he had a great performance at the LAN. I would probably put itachi lower on the list (i might even switch him out for acronik on the list) but beyond that i think this list is very fair
I think Itachi def should have been higher based on the split he has had, i think if it was expected performance then his spot would be good but if its going into the major he is over exotiik
Thank you for putting some respect on Exotiik’s name, I saw some reeeal fraudulent lists where he didn’t even made the top 25… (dazerin and bates I’m looking at u)
GENG spots are actually spot on, I believe GENG can perform better if app works more on his mechanics, noly on game sense, awareness, and chromic being and absolute monster on the front.
the thing about first is that he seems to hit the ball harder than anyone I've ever seen. It's interesting to hear you say that he's also 3 steps ahead of you on top of that. he's my most gifted player of all time and I don't even like the guy that much but I'm pumped he finally found the right recipe in a team
Reysbull is an "if you know, you know" guy. Not a lot of love from the TH-cam algorithm so the only time your really see him without pointedly looking for his gameplay is during major events.
Good list! I feel like Archie is a little high because he and Joreuz are such momentum players. Rise will play well even if it's a "bad" series, but Archie and Joreuz look terrible if their even a little off.
It's a very interesting list and could very well be correct. And I hope to see you in San Diego. I missed you at worlds and winter major last season so maybe this is the time
Chronic seems to have a higher ceiling than Jack. Dude is just nuts. Jack can sometimes have a bad mental and just snowball. Not quite as bad as when he was on DIG but it still happens and it has happened so far in the first two days of the LAN.
@@MrPatrickbuit GZG didn’t lose to gladiators in Corelli cup because they didn’t play each other but like you said gladiators took Dig to game 7 so that’s what I’m basing it off of
Oh damn, my list is honestly extremely similar, from the ones I have seen, definitely the list I most agreed with, although Acronik did deserve more respect
It's actually crazy how people have just backed superlachie all of a sudden. Like on kcp everyone thought bananahead was better and now that he's on a better OCE team, people are rating him higher than SAM guys.
Superlachie is genuinely the second best player OCE has produced in RLCS history behind Torsos. He is mechanical enough and is driven to win. Definitely deserving to be above players like nxghtt, Sad, and lower tier EU/NA players at the major.
@@pingwinner_ Name me 5 players that are clearly deserve to be higher than Superlachie that Retals didn't mention. I see the arguments for these SAM players being "more mechanical" but it isn't as though they are head and shoulders above Superlachie.
@@Clamied Atomic was still really damn good at the major. You would know that if you watched the games. They also had the toughest group and unfortunately ran into KC in quarters who are easily the best team in the world. And these prediction rankings are always far off no matter who does them. And it wasn't round of 16 it was round of 12 since 4 other teams had already been eliminated
@@jdub910 buddy they only made it to quarters because of gz and they had a easy group with faze being the only real threat so obviously it looks like they did good but they really had a free pass to the quarters and to make up for that free pass they played kc which they got destroyed dident even take a game I believe so no matter what think he was top 8 he dosent deserve that high bc overall g2 dident perform
@@Clamied buddy literally everyone was calling their group the group of death because it was easily the hardest to get out of. G1 beat Faze and still got last. Every other group had a clear worst team who went 0-3. And again, if you actually watched the games you would have seen that g2 looked good against Karmine. You would also see that G2 actually took them to 6 games. And yeah GZ was definitely a free win but considering they had to play the best team in quarters and also had the toughest group, that goes to show their tournament wasn't "free" at all. And the rankings were pre-major. Atomic wasn't a top 5 performer at the major but going into it there was nothing wrong with having him there. Either way he still ended up playing really well individually
Rise at 3 has to be the worst pick I’ve ever seen, he barely gets the 25 spot for me, oxg goes 3-0 in groups and lose immediately after, I’m calling it.
@@tiktak1374 placed top 4 in the 4 biggest lans ever, absolutely crushed the most goals at a lan, been on the 2 best tournet runs since the new system was implemented
@Tik Tak he's not wrong. Winter major last year rise carried. Spring major last year, he wins the whole event. Its a known fact that this kid gets a massive buff on LAN, so it's hard to rate him low for me. He's gonna put joreuz and archie in the backpack
I've been watching Alpha54 for a long long time and honestly (no hate) I just don't see the reason for the hype around him. He's not that guy. Radosin has been doing all of the hard stuff and dirty work. So I'd remove him from the list entirely and add Akronik. I'd also swap Itachi and Rise. I'm going to call it out now, Faze won't succeed because of firstkiller, he has his moments where he steals boost from his teammates, cuts rotation, over commits and goes full "selfish" mode and ends up costing his team goals or scoring opportunities. He's getting better about it, but when the pressure increases he starts making stupid mistakes. For me, Atomic is #1 (no children not hashtag 1 that's a number sign) because of everything you said, plus he's the single best defender in the game by a long shot. Firstkiller will turn into worstkiller at some point and that's why he's not better than Atomic. Reliability and consistency are important.
Chronic over AppJack is honestly not that crazy. Bro has been so consistent recently and definitely knows how to take his 50s and shoot well.
Chronic is my favorite player to watch rn no 🧢
If hes on the ball he gets past 1 like 99% of the time too
Defintely not crazy, chronic has been gen.g’s best player this split
Your second sentence was describing appjack not chronic in my opinion
facts
Vatira is underrated tbh. He's not just an enabler, he can do everything. Should've won all 3 awards this weekend.
This is a super solid list honestly. I personally would have had Atow higher but I meat ride liquid so
Besides not having Daniel or Beastmode yeah I agree
@@ghxstfire3414 Daniel and Beastmode wont play in the major bro what u talking about
@@chriissemmel383 oh nvm I’m tweakin lmao. I forgot it was only for the major when I commented that. One thing I will say is I think AppJack and chronic should be switched but other than that fire list
@@ghxstfire3414 the list is people playing at the major, neither BM or Dan are playing there
I respect it. Chicago could be higher though and AcroniK definitely needs to be there. I get Oski and Atow are great players but they aren't very far ahead of him. It's hard to separate them.
I agree Acronik is insane, but on this roster he’s not the one to shine. I think his role is to stay kind of in the background and let the other two show out. On almost any other team he would be a standout top 10 player, as would the rest of Liquid
@@pranavsaravanan990 they make top4 on this major…
@@pranavsaravanan990 Top 4 last major and they beat KC in the last regional keep crying
@@pranavsaravanan990 easiest bet of my life, liquid 1st team in semifinals
I love seeing radosin make the list! Watching him play is so entertaining I hope he can pop off
fr rado is really underrated and often overshadowed by alpha
@@kronykl agreed. I'm dying to see him in some showmatches
@@kronykl agreed
Yeah, he really showed up this split
It's a good list overall but not having acronick is criminal for me personally.
At around 8:42 he mentions that he should've put Acronick on the list and that it was a misjudgement.
This actually aged better than any other list I’ve seen so far, and definitely better than retals other prediction vids
Rise has that “turbo” factor. He’s gonna do great things.
Only thing id change is that, for this split, id swap Archie and Atomic. Archie has really had to step up with Rise being injured and he looks gross in groups then Rise takes over in bracket
But he is a “momentum player” he looks good until they start loosing momentum in a series
I think you might under rate where AppJack was in EU. I don't think he got crazy better mechanically in NA, he just fulfils a different role in this team. Saying that, I don't mind where you placed him now, so swings and roundabouts I guess
that’s what i always think. jack was really good and there’s proof of that in how he dominated one’s at the time with his mechanics and game sense the only reason some might view him as not being so is because of the team performance. the team did not have any cohesion and scrub was underperforming so jack couldn’t do too much for them so instead he dominated ones and waited until the new season so he could find a new team that he works well with in which he can dominate rlcs
Normally with such lists I always have quite a few changes that I'd make.. With this, barely any, very solid list
W list but acronik DEFINITELY needs to be there i feel like hes really underrated :(
Is that a little guitar I see in the background? Potential stream concert coming up?
Love to hear what you said about reys, i think he had a great performance at the LAN. I would probably put itachi lower on the list (i might even switch him out for acronik on the list) but beyond that i think this list is very fair
I think Itachi def should have been higher based on the split he has had, i think if it was expected performance then his spot would be good but if its going into the major he is over exotiik
let's see if this is better than TBates' list
Hard not to be
Good list, esp. Vatira up there, but I would place Itachi and trk higher.
I really like Vatira 1. He truly wants it more than anyone I think.
He is the definition of “Wants it more”
Thank you for putting some respect on Exotiik’s name, I saw some reeeal fraudulent lists where he didn’t even made the top 25… (dazerin and bates I’m looking at u)
GENG spots are actually spot on, I believe GENG can perform better if app works more on his mechanics, noly on game sense, awareness, and chromic being and absolute monster on the front.
Makes sense I get why u rated oxygen high. Rise is of the best lan players in the world. They just disappointed hard
the meat riding karmine corp is insane.
1 SAM player here after Secret got top 4 in the last Lan is wild imo, but great list apart from that
the thing about first is that he seems to hit the ball harder than anyone I've ever seen. It's interesting to hear you say that he's also 3 steps ahead of you on top of that. he's my most gifted player of all time and I don't even like the guy that much but I'm pumped he finally found the right recipe in a team
Reysbull is an "if you know, you know" guy. Not a lot of love from the TH-cam algorithm so the only time your really see him without pointedly looking for his gameplay is during major events.
Crr 21 is crazy considering how good he’s been
Love the content, including a clip for each player. Which probably took a lot of time to edit for 25 different players.
I’m surprised ackronick wasn’t on the list, great list bro! Def agree on a lot.
Good list! I feel like Archie is a little high because he and Joreuz are such momentum players. Rise will play well even if it's a "bad" series, but Archie and Joreuz look terrible if their even a little off.
Not putting akronik is a crime
You're the man Retals! See ya in SD
Your list reminded me V1 did horrible this split. I was waiting for beastmode to pop up in the top 10! Then I reread the title.
guitar break at 11:44?
I absolutely love this list.. i do think Acronik should of been on there but overall one of the best lists ive seen
It's a very interesting list and could very well be correct. And I hope to see you in San Diego. I missed you at worlds and winter major last season so maybe this is the time
20:16 is soooooooo relatable 😂
Chronic seems to have a higher ceiling than Jack. Dude is just nuts. Jack can sometimes have a bad mental and just snowball. Not quite as bad as when he was on DIG but it still happens and it has happened so far in the first two days of the LAN.
I don't think its super likely, but I'm secretly hoping all the people making these lists get dunked on by Dreaz
Superlachie off my list cause they’re bouta go 0-3 after losing to Gladiators.
Where do you think Daniel would be if he went?
@@rip_kaiza283 probably in the 7-10 range
Did GZG actually lose to Gladiators lmao? Gladiators also took Dig to G7 at Corelli's tournament so it's possible
@@MrPatrickbuit GZG didn’t lose to gladiators in Corelli cup because they didn’t play each other but like you said gladiators took Dig to game 7 so that’s what I’m basing it off of
I appreciate the video clips of the players!
Oh damn, my list is honestly extremely similar, from the ones I have seen, definitely the list I most agreed with, although Acronik did deserve more respect
gonna be crazy to see how fast zen goes the top
my top 5 for the split
1. Firstkiller
2. ApparentlyJack
3. Vatira
4. Rise
5. Chronic
W a few small tweaks tho like atow maybe even over rise, thats me tho?
Day 120 of telling retals he's a beast and appreciated
Day 1 of telling you how cringe this is, hes not gonna answer you boy stop being stupid
ur a beast and ur appreciated step bro
Solid list. Do this on Johnny's stream next time!
You’re like the Chris Simms of Rocket League. Nothing but W takes.
"he came to NA and got insanely better mechanically" xD
Do u think Zen will pass Firstkiller in pure skill?
100%
He already has
He’ll be the best in the game as soon as he debuts
@@penguvse7933 i mean he still has to prove himself in 3v3 on LAN
@@emilep6187 cap
Superlachie has been so overrated by everybody. Sam has been criminally underrated
i dont get how people have him over so many other players from sam or any other region
It's actually crazy how people have just backed superlachie all of a sudden. Like on kcp everyone thought bananahead was better and now that he's on a better OCE team, people are rating him higher than SAM guys.
Superlachie is genuinely the second best player OCE has produced in RLCS history behind Torsos. He is mechanical enough and is driven to win. Definitely deserving to be above players like nxghtt, Sad, and lower tier EU/NA players at the major.
@@aidenguo5580 yeah just no
@@pingwinner_ Name me 5 players that are clearly deserve to be higher than Superlachie that Retals didn't mention. I see the arguments for these SAM players being "more mechanical" but it isn't as though they are head and shoulders above Superlachie.
how is itachii and exotic are so low?????
remember when sypical was last man a tried to wall dash?? 🤣😂🤣
Superlachie over kv1 was a dumb pick
Lachie might be the best player to ever come out of OCE, I don't think it's unreasonable to have him over kv1
I would pick bananahead over kv1
I'm new to rocket league but I've been following it lately. Can anyone tell me when "zen" isn't here
He was disqualified and so has not showed how good he really is at 3s on lan
I feel like you rating by how they did or how good they are and nor how well they will actually do at tje major
Yanxnz & Daniel?
Jack is definitely higher than 7. Narh Retals.
Jack makes his team better. Agreed
I think Chronic has the best controls over his car
This aged well after day 1
Honestly I'd put Chicago a little higher. Probably like 15th-16th
Joorz lmao. No hate we can't pronounce everything right. Good vid off from the man who's ign is his girl name backwards retals=slater
I love the channel and i love the vids, but pleas for the love of god fix your headset and make the muffs even 😂
personally, I would've had beastmode somewhere in the top 15 but that's just me however that's if he shows up
I don’t agree with the list entirely but all I know is Retals has experience against so he’s probably more right than I sm
what about ZEN
Chicago 23 is downright nefarious
I’m gonna see RETALSSSSSSS
"Firstkiller and friends"
All I have to say is atomic is to high other than that very solid list
L take
@@jdub910 g2 proceeds to go out in quarters and basically having a bye on round of 16 because they were against gz
@@Clamied Atomic was still really damn good at the major. You would know that if you watched the games. They also had the toughest group and unfortunately ran into KC in quarters who are easily the best team in the world. And these prediction rankings are always far off no matter who does them. And it wasn't round of 16 it was round of 12 since 4 other teams had already been eliminated
@@jdub910 buddy they only made it to quarters because of gz and they had a easy group with faze being the only real threat so obviously it looks like they did good but they really had a free pass to the quarters and to make up for that free pass they played kc which they got destroyed dident even take a game I believe so no matter what think he was top 8 he dosent deserve that high bc overall g2 dident perform
@@Clamied buddy literally everyone was calling their group the group of death because it was easily the hardest to get out of. G1 beat Faze and still got last. Every other group had a clear worst team who went 0-3. And again, if you actually watched the games you would have seen that g2 looked good against Karmine. You would also see that G2 actually took them to 6 games. And yeah GZ was definitely a free win but considering they had to play the best team in quarters and also had the toughest group, that goes to show their tournament wasn't "free" at all. And the rankings were pre-major. Atomic wasn't a top 5 performer at the major but going into it there was nothing wrong with having him there. Either way he still ended up playing really well individually
Another list, another AcroniK disrespect... I'm fine with most of the list except for AcroniK not being in it and crr is so low its insane
Bro needs some new pictures for the tumbnails...
I think i just realized there is Atomic and Atomik. 🧐
lachie over acronik is brazy
drink a shot everytime he says gross
3:35 next split *
Yanx??
Rise at 3 has to be the worst pick I’ve ever seen, he barely gets the 25 spot for me, oxg goes 3-0 in groups and lose immediately after, I’m calling it.
He's unquestionably a top 5 player on Lan of all time lmao
@@Logixaal that’s crazy, no worlds win and you’re saying he’s top 5
@@tiktak1374 placed top 4 in the 4 biggest lans ever, absolutely crushed the most goals at a lan, been on the 2 best tournet runs since the new system was implemented
@Tik Tak he's not wrong. Winter major last year rise carried. Spring major last year, he wins the whole event. Its a known fact that this kid gets a massive buff on LAN, so it's hard to rate him low for me. He's gonna put joreuz and archie in the backpack
@@Logixaal don’t get me wrong, great lan player, not top 5 and I don’t think he’s gonna be all that great at lan with oxg
I agree with every single placement on this list, congrats Retals you did it.
Rise this high is sorta crazy I have him low 20’s
bro he got finals every major
12:50 alpha didn't make s8 he made s7
daniel?
I've been watching Alpha54 for a long long time and honestly (no hate) I just don't see the reason for the hype around him. He's not that guy. Radosin has been doing all of the hard stuff and dirty work. So I'd remove him from the list entirely and add Akronik. I'd also swap Itachi and Rise.
I'm going to call it out now, Faze won't succeed because of firstkiller, he has his moments where he steals boost from his teammates, cuts rotation, over commits and goes full "selfish" mode and ends up costing his team goals or scoring opportunities. He's getting better about it, but when the pressure increases he starts making stupid mistakes. For me, Atomic is #1 (no children not hashtag 1 that's a number sign) because of everything you said, plus he's the single best defender in the game by a long shot. Firstkiller will turn into worstkiller at some point and that's why he's not better than Atomic. Reliability and consistency are important.
Solid list
surprised daniel wasn’t in the list tbh
SpaceStation didn’t make LAN this time, so Daniel won’t be on the list.
kinda agree with the list
Whhere is daniel
Prediction is way more fun than this actually
Retals genuinely hates SAM
This aged well
yeah he called it w/ Vatira & Fk.
no team liquid what
Where's Daniel???
At home
shoutout exotiik
Where's Musty?😂😂
Bro…. Where’s Rizzo 😂
I think firstkiller is better than vatira based on skill
Agreed
Good video 🫡🫡
Retals I love you but did you just say Rise DIDNT PERFORM AT LA💀
Exactly even in the game 7 he wast talking about he made THAT save
@@ad4lat vatira made that save*
@@compszn bro did u see the series rise mad the save on the goal line after he respawned lmao
gr8 list
Bro trk511 needed to be at list on the top 10 he is better then exotik and alpha54
Oski is way too low and saying atow overshadows him is a bad take imo