Being from outside the us and this being before the internet was as big as it would be, I am so glad someone finally could explain this as well as you have. Thank you.
Recently got back into comics. I don't remember what year Maximum Carnage (12 part series) was, but thats what drove me away, the seems like a 1994 move haha. Love the videos, very informative!
Dave - thank you for exploring and explaining the boom & bust. I remember when I left my hometown of Bryan-College Station in 1994, they had four comic book stores. When I returned there from Lubbock at the end of 1998, they had one decent comic book store and one on its last legs. This brought back memories of the stores in Bryan and Lubbock. Lubbock had one of my favorite stores in that it wasn’t a good store, but smelled of old paper and cigarette smoke. The glossy covers of the 90’s didn’t have the same smell and character.
I stopped collecting when I was forced to pay 8 dollars for a copy of Hulk 393 three days after it was released. Usually comic stores would wait a week before charging extra. I didn't walk back into a comic store again until 2010.
Hey buddy, I grew up in the comic bust when it happened and you gave one of the best interpretations of it. I've seen many. Thank you so much for doing what you do. Please keep doing it. I'm a fan of the channel and I will always be a fan of the channel
MARVEL Should've done one of two things with the clone saga: Stick to the Passing the Tourch ending or cancel it when the reviews and fan outrage started
Different parts of the country didn't have the same experience during this time. I remember nobody had a problem with Perlman. Icahn was the one everybody worried about cause be was corporate liquidator.
Hey, Dave, speaking of swimsuit issues....what about Texas Comics, Comico, Justice Machine, the Elementals? And on that subject, what about some of the other indies of the 80s like Eclipse with Crossfire and DNAgents? :)
Absolutely. In a few of the videos so far I've ended with a couple of suggestions. But recommending good reading platforms is a big part if what we do.
A little bit of everywhere, actually. I was running a comic shop during this crash, so a lot of it was first hand, but I used various sources to (hopefully) make sure I got things in more or less the right order. Two books I used a LOT were Between the Panels from Dark Horse and the various volumes of Comic Book Chronicles from Twomorrows Press. I highly recommend both.
Capital City totally bit the big one in the scramble for exclusives, they had a superior system to Diamond, but they didn't have the money Diamond had so the worse company won out. Comics were already in a bad place, the monopoly of distribution simply furthered the squeeze until now shops are as scarce as a Blockbuster...
REMBER WHEN MARVEL BUYING TOY BIZZ WHICH MADE BATMAN TOY . AND WHEN PHIL TALKED DC TO DIRECT MARKET AND AWAY FROM THE GENERAL MARKET THAT THE BASE PUBLIC COULDN'T COMICS.
I don't see anything inherently wrong with the sexier mid-to-late '90s characters and swimsuit specials. For starters, Witchblade was not only a great character with an original story that endured but also Christina Z., a Cuban American female writer/editor, who made her even sexier. Plus, I think the trend started at Marvel back in '91. It's like saying Milo Manara's erotic work has no value just 'cause it's erotic. Yeah, most of the stories were trash, but it's the rule that most comics, regardless of the period, are derivative trash. Like most movies and TV shows... 20% of great publications is a high batting average. The '80s suffered this too, comics just were not as popular. And, in this period, we tend to forget the rise of great, timeless stuff like Strangers in Paradise, Bone, Hepcats, Astro City, writers like Alan Moore and Warren Ellis taking on Wildstorm stuff... even Marvel & DC put out great prestige projects like Marvels, JSA: The Golden Age, Kingdom Come, Earth X, the rise of Vertigo, Marvel Knights. I know you mentioned it at the end, but it would be more productive to make it clear that, for example, Image wasn't just a Spawn and Marvel-clone company. I understand it might be tangential to the topic, but the virtues of this period, which it did have, are always overlooked.
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witnessed it all,,,,,watched tons of stores close,,,,sad times, still collecting today, and have been since the 70's!!
Thank you sir for explaining the bust.I been collecting comics on and off since the early eighties.
Being from outside the us and this being before the internet was as big as it would be, I am so glad someone finally could explain this as well as you have. Thank you.
Well Thank You for viewing the video! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Recently got back into comics. I don't remember what year Maximum Carnage (12 part series) was, but thats what drove me away, the seems like a 1994 move haha. Love the videos, very informative!
Ron Perlman? That guy from Hellboy and Beauty and the Beast? Wow. . . I didn't know he was into comics. 🤣🤣
Yeah he isn't. But he bought em.
Ron Perelman. Different guy. Billionaire
Great overview of a dark era of comic books.
That was a brilliant telling of comics in the nineties...
Dave - thank you for exploring and explaining the boom & bust. I remember when I left my hometown of Bryan-College Station in 1994, they had four comic book stores. When I returned there from Lubbock at the end of 1998, they had one decent comic book store and one on its last legs. This brought back memories of the stores in Bryan and Lubbock. Lubbock had one of my favorite stores in that it wasn’t a good store, but smelled of old paper and cigarette smoke. The glossy covers of the 90’s didn’t have the same smell and character.
Great video certain details I"d forgotten about.....
Great history lesson, thank you
Just watched both parts. I lived and collected through a lot of those years and you shed some light on things I hadn't heard before. Nicely done!!!
I lived this! Good show!
I hope you keep this channel going after the whole quarantine thing, this channel is awesome!
Great details that many miss. Thanks!
I'm keeping this video for special economic purposes
I don't remember the bust being that early, but maybe I was just buying a lot of indie books then.
I stopped collecting when I was forced to pay 8 dollars for a copy of Hulk 393 three days after it was released. Usually comic stores would wait a week before charging extra. I didn't walk back into a comic store again until 2010.
This was amazing
Hey buddy, I grew up in the comic bust when it happened and you gave one of the best interpretations of it. I've seen many. Thank you so much for doing what you do. Please keep doing it. I'm a fan of the channel and I will always be a fan of the channel
well, I miss hearing you ruminate about stuff :D
Great videos!!
Tom DeFalco was a great editor in chief. It was over for Marvel after he left.
MARVEL Should've done one of two things with the clone saga: Stick to the Passing the Tourch ending or cancel it when the reviews and fan outrage started
Different parts of the country didn't have the same experience during this time. I remember nobody had a problem with Perlman. Icahn was the one everybody worried about cause be was corporate liquidator.
Great video. Id read a thesis on this topic.
Great info
Hey, Dave, speaking of swimsuit issues....what about Texas Comics, Comico, Justice Machine, the Elementals?
And on that subject, what about some of the other indies of the 80s like Eclipse with Crossfire and DNAgents? :)
This was helpful, thank you. 🐾
THE STOCKS WERE THE GREAT ARTWORK OF ITS TIME,!!!!
Great video
Would you consider doing videos with reading lists based on characters?
Absolutely.
In a few of the videos so far I've ended with a couple of suggestions.
But recommending good reading platforms is a big part if what we do.
Disney: So whats with all these Malabu characters you seem to own?
MARVEL: Uh
Disney: No better question WHY AREN'T YOU PUBLISHING THEM?
Where did you get your info? Awesome level of research and detail…
A little bit of everywhere, actually. I was running a comic shop during this crash, so a lot of it was first hand, but I used various sources to (hopefully) make sure I got things in more or less the right order. Two books I used a LOT were Between the Panels from Dark Horse and the various volumes of Comic Book Chronicles from Twomorrows Press. I highly recommend both.
Capital City totally bit the big one in the scramble for exclusives, they had a superior system to Diamond, but they didn't have the money Diamond had so the worse company won out. Comics were already in a bad place, the monopoly of distribution simply furthered the squeeze until now shops are as scarce as a Blockbuster...
REMBER WHEN MARVEL BUYING TOY BIZZ WHICH MADE BATMAN TOY . AND WHEN PHIL TALKED DC TO DIRECT MARKET AND AWAY FROM THE GENERAL MARKET THAT THE BASE PUBLIC COULDN'T COMICS.
All of these foil cover is making my inner librarian cringe.
#599 🖖👍
I was hooked until you started judging them for pandering with T&A. It might be low-brow, but sex sells. That’s a hard truth.
As a teenager at the time, I can confirm, if Image slapped a hot chick with minimal clothing on the cover, I was probably buying lol.
I don't see anything inherently wrong with the sexier mid-to-late '90s characters and swimsuit specials. For starters, Witchblade was not only a great character with an original story that endured but also Christina Z., a Cuban American female writer/editor, who made her even sexier. Plus, I think the trend started at Marvel back in '91.
It's like saying Milo Manara's erotic work has no value just 'cause it's erotic. Yeah, most of the stories were trash, but it's the rule that most comics, regardless of the period, are derivative trash. Like most movies and TV shows... 20% of great publications is a high batting average. The '80s suffered this too, comics just were not as popular. And, in this period, we tend to forget the rise of great, timeless stuff like Strangers in Paradise, Bone, Hepcats, Astro City, writers like Alan Moore and Warren Ellis taking on Wildstorm stuff... even Marvel & DC put out great prestige projects like Marvels, JSA: The Golden Age, Kingdom Come, Earth X, the rise of Vertigo, Marvel Knights. I know you mentioned it at the end, but it would be more productive to make it clear that, for example, Image wasn't just a Spawn and Marvel-clone company.
I understand it might be tangential to the topic, but the virtues of this period, which it did have, are always overlooked.