Real Airbus Pilot Tries X Plane 12!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 31 ก.ค. 2024
- An early access version of X Plane 12 is now here and available to you all, including a free demo. In this video I take a flight in the A330 and give some initial impressions.
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I am a real world Airbus pilot with thousands of hours flying the real aircraft and thought it would be fun to have a look at the detailed simulations of the 'bus in MSFS and X Plane 11. Hopefully you find this useful and it brings another perspective to your simulation. Any thoughts or comments are welcome!
This video is intended for home entertainment only and does not reflect or represent any real world aircraft or airline procedures. It is for home flight simulator enthusiasts only and has no real world application. All views expressed are my own.
0:00 Graphics
05:36 Engine Start
08:57 Takeoff
15:15 A330 Flying
25:05 Weather
31:56 Night
34:39 Approach
38:45 Landing & Replays
45:30 F-14 - เกม
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self confessed and unashamed MSFS fanboy here. holy heck i'm impressed. the ground handling looks so real, that plane looked really heavy when you were taxiing to the runway, i could feel it. and the atmospheric lighting looks pretty incredible. i'm almost solely a vfr pleasure flyer, in real life and in the sim, so MSFS works great for what i want it to do. but the bigger boys who love pressing buttons are getting a great sim which will only improve as 320SP says.hopefully the 2 sims push each other to great things. i can't wait for MSFS to get some of the handling characteristics ive seen so far from XP12
What you said is exactly how I use XP11 and MSFS. I use MSFS for low and slow and jump to XP11 (will move to 12 when it comes out of EA) for the tubeliners. As you said the "feel" it is just right.
This is the ONLY reason I use XP11 and hardly ever go near MSFS; the taxiing, ground handling on TO and landing, all feel realistic, the aircraft feels like they have mass and momentum, in MSFS, once you get to 10ft above the ground, you don't really have to do much, apart from try not to be so heavy on the rudder as the nose goes crazy!
@@wootleu
when i flew the default a330 i was very pleasantly surprised! imo the best default airliner to ever come out of any sim, if laminar chooses to complete it through and through (i've heard that there will me a custom MCDU on full release) we could finally have a really good default airliner
yeah im really impressed by laminar, good job
Zibo will mod it like he did with the 737.
@@hansloyalitat9774 that wold be a game changer
Thank you for this excellent first look video and your constructive and balanced comments regarding this new version. Looking forward to your future XP streams
Only just started watching this vid and what a beautiful intro piece with the A330 taking off. Those water effects man, just awesome! Thanks Cap!
To arm the speed brakes there is an up and down arrow icon when you hover over it and it will allow you to pull to arm. Thanks for the good videos as usual Cap!
Ah great, thank you!
As a fs2020 user I’m actually surprised at how nice that looks. Love that rain effect too.
A really enjoyable review, thank you.
Very good overview. Great to hear opinions from a real world pilot. Your testing seems very thorough and your explanations are very clear. Thanks! As someone who has only ever used MSFS, it's interesting to see what X-Plane can bring to the table. It clearly excels when it comes to physics. I really hope MS/Asobo can improve the take off, landing and ground handling because that seems to be the worst thing about MSFS now.
Thank you Capt for doing this video. I use only Macs so this will be very important since it will be my only choice in flight sims. Cheers to you and the 1st officer.
Glad it was helpful Cade!
Opening footage looked fantastic. Light in general looked fantastic. Lots of work to done though . Has anyone tried getting the aircraft to ice up? 👍🏻
Great review....thanks man!
Hi, I was just wondering, how did you calibrate the tca for this one? Thanks!
Great video! The FPS monitor also shows your CPU and GPU frame time - looked like your CPU was the bottleneck most of the time.
Hi,
Abit Off-topic but I have been recently flying and got a L/R INNER TK LO TEMP warning and was wondering how you can resolve the issue (How to find warmer ALT layers, how much you have to increase speed, does FUEL X FEED work?, etc...).
Great Content as usuall
You set the wind from the right and the rain was blowing across the windscreen from the right .. how cool
Time stamp?
I haven't worked out how to get the instrument panel a bit further away and not so much in my face or on my lap. I'm used to it from MSFS with both the Airbus and Boeing. I guess I'll have to take time and configure it properly in order to get a real feel for it. Looking at the demos it looks very impressive I must say.
Thank U very much to share your opinon about this new Xplane.!!
lovely vidéo. Great job. Thanks.
Really usefull and funny to see. Just beautifull
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great review👍
Does anyone know if Just Flight X11 models work in X12? A lot of info like "It might", but can't seem to find a definitive answer.
looks amazing sir hope your all good
All good thank you Dg!
If only we could get XP12 with the MSFS scenery, that would be the perfect sim.
Still a lot to improve before calling this perfect: ai traffic, realistic engine wear, realistic crash physics, an actual campaign with missions, passenger simulation.
Flying over nice sceneries gets old real quick
Lol that would be great if the physics of Xplane and graphics of msfs combined the out come will be the best flight sim ever. No people arguing about which is the better one.
Btw i currently like xplane but it is just my opinion
Hi,. did they include weather radar too on this default A330? thanks
I am pretty sure XP12 does not yet have night textures which is why it's so dark at night. It has vehicle lights, some airport lighting and streetlights but no texture or house/factory lighting as yet.
you dont need night texture, u need correct photon simulation, then it will work for any condition without specific texture
Can you make a video on your airbus TCA joystick and throttle config on XP12? I cant seem to figure it out
All widebody airbus aircraft have a flare height of 40ft AFAIK. In my test with the 340 I reduced trhust to idle and started the flare at 40ft.
The best of the best X plane 12 good job...
Does anyone know, if I buy the early access game on Steam, will I have access to the full game when it comes out? I've never bought an early access game, I'd hope it would update...
*Switches weather from rain to a sunny day.
"There we go, a bit more of a normal day over London."
I am very confused by that statement, lol.
I think the last few weeks have confused me! Back to rain now
Anyone please help me, I’ve set Toga for takeoff and park brake off, but the aircraft was not moving with takeoff thrust. Anyone here could help me? Really appreciate it guys
Yesterday I was in a 737 max and after we landed and got to the gate the first officer let me put in the route back home. Crazy.
Great intro.for x plane 12,well done.Its great to follow a real pilot ,and learn,all the complex procedures for flying in such a laid back calming manner.
Hey how do you screen record your sim sessions ?
Would like to see a review of the default A320 in Aerofly FS 4. It's the best default A320 in my opinion.
I have already flow the A340 in XP12. THe handling is the same as in XP11. I had quite an easy landing/
The mcdu of the a330 is a little disappointing. It's the default xplane one which is based on the Boeings FMC. While it is not study level if it had the Airbus' mcdu system It would be a lot better.
the airbus mcdu should atleast come. so its just a "short" wait atleast
A little?
Ngl i think there will be a „zibo“ a330 maybe in a few weeks or months
@@benni6901 There is already a project running
Laminar is working on a proper Airbus MCDU, it will be released at a later date when it's ready
Anybody knows if the FMS managed descent is already functionally on the a330? I cant make the plane “stop” at the inserted altitudes constraints (managed speed cstr seems to work fine). Thks.
Hi, I do not think this feature is working yet as the FMGC is still a default X Plane one.
Hi, Why doesn't the floor get wet with third party scenary?Hola
Great video. I have one question about that A330: Does it have Alpha floor protection?
Yes, same as A320
Which airline do you fly for?
Oh, nice, the lighting seems to be a lot better. The worst thing on XPlane 11 for me are these strange olive-beige-touched colors
Agreed!
I’m obsessed with this plane but, jet to figure out how to do a proper approach and landing 😢
Very impressive. Sold!
(Only just learned of X-Plane 12. Almost went with MSFS 2020 but was put off by that massive 150 GB dl, whereas this sim is comparatively light.
Would rather support an independent developer than put more $$ into Microsoft's gigantic maw.
Thanks for doing this! 2 thumbs up on your first impressions review
Awesome looks great and sounds great 👍
Waiting for the Challenger 650 to be ready in xp12
Where there is water puddles on some parts of the runway
Why no flight plan?
I bought it on the day it came out. I like it, and I’m enjoying it. The Orbx True Earth scenery for the U.K. doesn’t yet work with X-Plane 12 (I raised a ticket with Orbx to check).
It actually does work, I have it working just by copying it into the Custom Scenery folder. The only issue is that the sea shows through in some places.
The wind shield effect is supurb
Can you do a video where you compare the physics engine and the handling of x plane 12 vs msfs 2020?
It's not that straight forward since aircraft maker can tune their aircraft. Hard to separate the aircraft model and sim model. Although iniBuilds A310 is releasing for MSFS later this year. This could eliminate the aircraft factor since now you have same aircraft for both sim.
Mostly if you compare the default planes physics xplane is easily the winner and in third party add-ons they are pretty comparable but I will still say xplane is mostly better.
Finally a very good and honest review. I like thw small detail u mentioned in this sim. Remember its only beta. Once 3rd party can be installed this sim will be much better
What resolution are you running at pls? Great video thanks 🙏
Great question! I was running at 1440p, apologies as I should have included that in the video.
@@320SimPilot no probs mate ,just me being over curious haha.. think I need a GPU upgrade from my rtx 3060.
This is a DLC upgrade? Token payment?
Why x-plane simulator 12 is darker than 11 , it looks like a kinds of picture now, I would say x-plane 11 is more brighter frames than this version, I may need adjust my monitors to brighter frames on this one. I wished on this version we could get more popups like GPS, my wish was if possible we can popup the dash compass 😉
Anyone been able to observe XP12’s load on the various processor cores? XP11 always pegged a single core on my machine but it seemed to not use any of the other cores, which seemed like a huge s waste of an expensive CPU.
Any comments/observations appreciated!
Yesterday I was running MSI Afterburner on 12. It seems that a single core does most of the work still. The usage of other cores has climbed a bit compared to 11 but not significantly. I maxed out all the CPU bound graphics and the total usage never climbed above 20%. I hope this will be improved in the future.
Really excited. Competition is a healthy and good thing 👍
I don’t have the budget for another sim right now, but if this helps push asobo/MS to further develop MSFS and compete, that’s great!
I really like the rain and the physical aircraft modelling. Stuff to work on for sure but when your older XP11 mods get updated and brought over, it’s guna be insane. Xplane will surely benefit from the fact that there is an existing active base of devs ready to work on existing aircraft?
Sure the world graphics aren’t as good as MSFS but if it’s smoother and a good sim overall, I’m all for it 👍
The water on ground looks so much better than FS
Hello, specs?, thank you.
There's a lot of bugs and things to be fixed, but I think I'll give it a chance in a few months
Aliasing - Ay lee uh sing
after xp12 launch, all runway have water puddle, no matter where, when and how the weather was
Absolutely! A nice graphical treat!
@@320SimPilot I don't think it was mentioned as a compliment to XP12, but rather as a criticism, which I support, if this is the case 😅
@@madsib5187 indeed
Very capable aircraft the F-14, easily finished off the SU-57 in TopGun - Incentive Ride
Except even top gun is more hollywood than realistic
Great review a320 a good non biased view
Thank you, appreciate it!
To be completely honest this looks more realistic than msfs 2020 as its not too saturated though the buildings and scenery are better in msfs 2020 though you can get scenery for xp 12
I downloaded the demo. The visuals are great, I think. The aircraft are disappointing but it's no different to when MSFS was launched. Look at how bad the A320 was. So I know it'll get better. I think I will get it, in a few months, when it's teething problems have been tweaked and resolved. And when I've bought another SSD haha.
The a320 as garbage as it was, had an airbus styled mcdu. The 787 as garbage as it was, had a Boeing styled fmc.
@@amateurdraw9524 The fmc is not staying, they said it will replaced with a custom mcdu later on
@@ethanhazleofficial9746 they still shouldnt rush it, or at least don't sell an unfinished product for 60 bucks.
@@aviay fair point
@@kleist5083 Graphics is hard to compare when discussing a flight simulation as complex as X-Plane. The bottom line is resources, Laminar Research has not much more than 20 people in the team with many 1 or 2 tops working on the graphics engine, AAA game studios have 100's if not 1000's working on their games with entire departments working on graphics, FX, models, environments.
This damp effect isnt in msfs 2020☹
Thought you'll do something like a barrel roll or a stall recovery with the Airbus to test the authenticity, then I realized that you won't know how a real Airbus behave to compare...
A great review - if we can arrange a wedding in heaven between this and MSFS I would be really happy. I will probably get this when there are some high fidelity aircraft available, but I am a little concerned that flying over legoland (esp on approach and takeoff) is not going to be as visually satisfying as in MSFS. For me the clouds are not as convincing as in MSFS. On the otherhand the condensation, spray and rain effects are nice.
i'm not very exited obout Xplane 12 tbh, and i do agree with allot of people saying it's an updated xplane 11. Yes it got the Replay tool and some different sounds but i've already invested so much money in msfs that i would go broke if i were to invest the similar amount in Xplane 12
i agree it looks xp11 with some visual upgrades, even the interface is the same. Very skeptical about xp12
well for previous xplane userss it wont require more money since the addons will work eith the ne
I’m surprised that engine “backwash” during a wet takeoff isn’t included. I remain hopeful that this will be corrected. I don’t generally like volumetric clouds yet, but this is nowhere near MSFS in that regard.
it will come in xp13
@@uraymeiviar Dream on 🤣🤣
so unimportant in a flight sim
This is a flight simulator, not a graphics simulator like mfs
Clouds look more realistic than mfs
Sadly the poor scenary will be a decision point for me. They missed a trick with sat scenary
If they just work on the grass then x plane 12 can be even closer to msf2020
For me the X-plane 12 is a bit of a disappointment. I used to have around 40fps in X-plane 11 and the Tollis A319 loaded with graphics set to almost maximum. Barely got 20 fps with a Cessna in XP12 with settings close to minimum. I do hope Laminar is working on some serious optimisations and brings them asap, otherwise this was a waste of sixty bucks...
just buy another pc, otherwise u will always stick to xp11, they cant just make improvement without adding new stuff that will consume pc performance
That sounds odd… In general, I’ve been getting much *better* performance, especially considering I’ve been able to step up the settings 1-2 notches in most regards.
Oof, since I can only get 20-25fps in XP11 on low settings (60fps on msfs high, PMDG 737, so no idea why) I was hoping xp12 would be 60fps easy.
@@keibraun8679 Really? I'll try to do a clean install again. Maybe something happened during the initial installation that is affecting performance. Thanks for letting me know!
@@uraymeiviar And each year I'll keep buying a new computer... Ya have a spare (and loaded) credit card? :)
I already have MSFS, should I get this too
People will tell you MSFS is better or X-Plane is better, but I think it is far more important as to what your goals are. If you like seeing reality out your plane window, then I think MSFS has X-Plane beat for ground scenery. MSFS probably still has an edge for sky realism but it is much closer (X-Plane 12 is a definite improvement compared to X-Plane 11). For most flight sim enthusiasts, I'd say if you already have MSFS, then adding X-Plane probably isn't worth it unless you like to support flight sims in general.
If you want to practice emergency procedures or are possibly building up to a FAA certified sim rig, then I think X-Plane might be the better choice. For people who are going for their PPL and being able to run different failure situations in the safety of a sim where the accuracy of their response to the situation is more important than the graphics outside, there really is only one choice right now. If Asobo ever goes through the process to get MSFS approved by the FAA, then the situation might change. I don't think most flight sim enthusiasts are in that category though. For those who already have X-Plane 11, being able to carry most of the planes you have already into the new version (although there might be a upgrade charge by third parties) is also a factor that might help some.
Give the demo ago and decide for yourself
The f14d actually does have fbw. Still looks like a toy flight model though.
MFS is the definition of toy flight model, xplane flight models are great.
@@hansloyalitat9774 I was referring to the dcs f14 being better. Xplane f14 is nothing compared to heatblurs f14
@@ciwiyeet8216 Dcs has the a and b in xplane its the d
@@hansloyalitat9774 I am quite aware.
Just landed in Samos x in the real world 737 I wanted airbus ha
Overall it's a graphics update, but I've always loved the feel of X-Plane. It's a proper sim. Excited for updates and add-ons.
I love the simple things in life like having dedicated plugin, scenery and airplane folders
@@a.nelprober4971 just use add on linker and you can have that in MSFS too
@@cozi9996 doesn't matter. Shouldn't have to use 3rd party for something simple
@@a.nelprober4971 shouldn’t have to use 3rd party scenery for something so simple (cough cough x-plane)
@@cozi9996 are you serious? Gateway airports are mesmerising
Someone will come along and Zibofy it….it’ll just take a long time.
Group has been setup already 😉
It does look quite stunning!
Could you "slowdown" the camera movements? It gave me a headache!
1:29 I have a lot of hours in x plane 11 I have 109
Is X Plane 12 ATC as good as MSFS? X Plane 11 ATC was a flop.
They improved it a bit
@@mlx39996 For real. I can't stand MSFS ATC for how bad it is. X-Plane must be a special kind of bad if MSFS is "good" in comparison.
So everything works and looks as XP11, Ortho looks the same as in XP11. Why are we paying XP11 twice?
Exactly! I know one thing, I'm not hearing any "WOW's or Ohh's" as I heard when MSFS first shined it's light on a NEW Flight Sim. Please dont get me wrong, i've been flying on X-Plane for years and it has given me many wonderful hours of similated flight. I've spent maney hundreds of dollars on addons, but really, this is just an upgrade to an existing aged Sim. Eventually it will go the way of the dinosours. Just like all things do. I applaud RL for their work and their effort to stay afloat in the market; and maybe the otherside of their market (Pro Version) will still go on, but I'm affraid they have lost me.
you pay for water puddle
Maybe a trip to the optician is in order?
Most of my aircraft don't work propery in 12 and the fps is worse than 11 (depending on weather). Scenery still looks ugly. Don't get me wrong I have 2600 hours in XP 11, but XP 12 has to imrpove a lot of things. These days I find myself flying in MSFS more.
seems like the sim needs a lot of polishing ill just carry on playing msfs2020 until they catch up
Installed the demo, flew it for the allowed 15 minutes. Fired up MSFS and flew the Spitfire for 15 minutes. Landed, then uninstalled X-Plane 12…
Is that because you like the flight model more for the MSFS? Or is it the visual appeal which is undoubtedly better for Microsoft due to the bing maps? Genuinely interested
This remembers me the launch of MSFS 2 years ago. It was so disappointing and full of bugs that i rage-quitted and deinstalled it. I only started to use it after like 15 months. It‘s good but except the visuals - that at the end doesnt make such a huge difference - it has not that much more special to offer right now but at least it has become enjoyable to use finally.
I can see why people who don't fly for a living would want a sim that feels as real to how a real aircraft flies but for me, who is a pilot in the corporate aviation industry, I will take the fantastic visuals in MSFS over XP12 any day. And coming from a pilot who flies all over the world and has flown numerous aircraft, the aircraft physics in MSFS really aren't as bad as a lot of backseat pilots seem to think.
This man. X-Plane defiantly has the better flight model but MSFS is close as well. It’s only getting better too. Many have not experienced actual flying and go based off what’s online with many being true but others false. It great we have two sims. The two will defiantly push each other to always improve and get better
look at mr front seat pilot over there...
@@janushomer9111Not really, no. Just stating what many pilots who fly in the real world think. Seems as if the other comments above also agree.
@@Evulnation I guess all that is needed for something to be right, is for a group of people to agree that it is.
If a few people agree that gravity does not exist. It must be true...
I fly the Piper Warrior IRL and the Just Flight Warrior with MSFS feels damn near close to the real thing, especially when I strap on a VR headset. Visuals are nothing to scoff at when it comes to immersion. As for handling, it really is good enough. You'd never get the real feel of an aircraft with your little desktop yoke and rudder pedals, no matter what sim you use. The real Warrior is physically demanding to perform a power on stall or use larger rudder deflections, and the hardware I have feels so damn light and floaty in comparison. The best thing you can do is adjust some sensitivity curves to get a better "feel" more than anything.
Not to mention, MSFS does use Computational Fluid Dynamics which is in fact better than X-Plane's Blade Element Theory. The flight model is there, but it's just a matter of aircraft developers deciding to take advantage of that and being able to tune it to better match real world flight characteristics. But, it is still a new thing that came out in SU9. X-Plane has the advantage of many years of aircraft developers tuning their products to X-Plane's system.
I’m also a real pilot. I don’t think xplane has a better physics. I prefer MFS2020 by far.
XP is the third player behind P3D and the current leader in flight sim MSFS. Likely to stay that way with XP12.
The old chestnut of the flight model being better in XP is old hat. The coding behind Blade element in XP and boundary element in MSFS probably gives MSFS the edge on the ability to create better flight dynamics than XP.
Devs like Fenix, PMDG and potential others for GA will take awhile to refine the flight model in MSFS, but they are not working at any disadvantage to those in XP.
Not really. According to the last navigraph-survey „how often do you fly any of the following flightsimulators“? X-Plane 53%, P3D 33%. P3D has fallen far behind now.
@@frankbyte that’s just simmers. P3D has a large corporate base.
@@johnmaguire2185 XP as well. What other sources about each parts do you have then?
I am not so sure this is a real AirBus pilot? A turn at nearly 90 let alone 60 degrees which is a commercial maneuver. Ohwell
Hope they update soon because the airplanes is amazing just the MCDU is trash and trhe worst ever and really is a joke for a amazing plane
Those default airports now look bloody marvellous despite being the exact same gateway airports as 11. Xplane being wallet friendly as always which is super Important these days with income being rekt by inflation
I don't care that msfs has satellite scenery. Even with satellite scenery msfs looks and feels fake. X Plane feels real and looks real.
The over saturated scenery of MSFS has annoyed me for a long time, but you can fix that with alt z, which opens up the GeForce experience game bar. From there, you can adjust the color of the the sim, and make it look more realistic. If you’re referring to the way that aircraft fly, (eg. the 172 Skyhawk feeling as maneuverable as an f-18) there’s unfortunately no fix for that. MSFS is prettier, and X-plane 12 is a real sim.
Totally dissappointed by the visuals. We got spoiled by MSFS and DCS...
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The A330 is a massive disappointment. In fact everything is apart from the clouds maybe and the flight model. But interestingly there are so many just way too noticeable bugs even for an open access version. So why did they release it now? Why not give it a few more months? The only reason I see is they didn't want too many more people investing in MSFS because once they have they'll be much harder to get back. This essentially proves they know they can't compete with Microsoft and this is a desperate attempt to keep some of their fanboys with them for a bit longer.
Sadly it looks like modded X-plane 11. Nothing groundbreaking. Too bad because I hoped for something with MSFS2020 graphics (real terrain, cool weather), better ATC and X-plane physics simulation. For now it doesn't meet any of these requirement. Also Microsoft and Asobo are really active with MSFS updates (they also prepare free anniversary update with new planes and so on) so Laminar Studios won't be competetive to Microsoft with this product...
Why can MSFS only do groundbreaking visuals but is lacking in so many other basic features? No real weather-radar, no proper popout screens, no replay etc. And their camera-system is a real downfall compared to even XP9. Not talking about the non-intuitive menu that is much complicated to use (key-bindings included).
I see only going for the graphics and visual parts why don't you also consider physics and flight model as necessary categories infact they are most important things in a flight sim in my opinion. I don't mind if my graphics looks like from 2010 but if i don't get decent physics I probably wouldn't even try the sim.
XP 12 has been a real disappointment. Blurry clouds with very weird cloud shapes, Poor autogen with poor regionalization for the autogen. Mediocre FPS. Graphics from 2013 or 2014. Boeing FMC in the A330. I can’t believe LR released it as it is.
beta
@C H i dont have the beta, im saying truth be told, it is a beta after all so certain things are not the final product i hope.
Same as MSFS at release (volcano-explosions, many bugs and missing features like VR, helicopters etc). With the big difference that it wasn‘t released as an early-beta and you couldn‘t test it first for free before deciding. So much worst lol.