The Political Farce That's the Mongol Invasions of Japan
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- The Mongol invasions of Japan is often romanticized in the media. But the true story behind it is one of political farce and embarrassing failure of leadership.
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I'm playing Ghost of Tsushima right now and I'm quite enjoying it. What sort of history related questions do you guys want me to answer for next week's video?
In GoT the Khan stated that he spent his time in preparation learning. “I learned..” and if you read the in game mongol artifacts, you can read about a monk who had an audience with the Khan drinking wines and discussing life. They even said the Khan spoke and possessed knowledge of their culture as if he had lived there for decades. I have read before that on one of Kublai’s envoys return trip from Japan, they captured two Japanese sailors and brought them back to Mongolia. It was then that he wined and dined two peasant Japanese sailors showing them his riches, his foods, his luxury, his generosity, etc as well as listed to them about their homeland. Are you familiar with this information and can you expand on it? Thank you. Great video!
Khotun Khan, the main antagonist of GoT is a fictional Character. He did not exist.
I have read about this, but there aren't any documents about their visit. I don't think that they'd have left any written record, since they're probably illiterate. It's unlikely that the Japanese court would preserve records of enemy propaganda either.
"Pls check inbox" 😁
Would love to see a video on the Great Heathen Army that invades the British isles. Maybe if you decide to play AC: Valhalla when it comes out! Keep up the great work!
The last dynasty of China, Qing dynasty. There will be a lot of stories to tell: unification of Manchu tribes, conquest of Mongols, conquest of Korea, conquest of Ming dynasty, war with russians, Qing-Jungar war, annexation of Xinjiang, war with west, decline of the dynasty, etc etc.
I love how much effort you put into pronouncing the names correctly and having historically accurate fashion!
Thanks Tim! The credit goes to Chen Rui, our illustrator.
Not properly rewarding their samurais after the Mongol invasions partially contributed to the Kamakure Shogunate's demise.
They knew that. Gempei War started and ended up with the Minamoto Shoguns for very much similar reasons.
But the thing is, by the time of the Mongol invasions, the treasury was empty. Or more accurately, the administration was badly enough out of phase it couldn't rise the funds needed for the defense build-up and properly rewarding the warriors anymore.
Praying happened because it was the only option left available that fitted the Shogunate's available budget for this. And paying the shrines first was very likely as much gratitude for divine intervention than yet another stalling measure to avoid admitting out loud there was no money or lands left for proper rewards. And since they didn't managed to fix the system before it was too late for them...
I love how the hojo shikken actually has the hojo clan symbol on his robes. Nice attention to detail.
Just so show what clan they are from (and the fact the hojo like to show off their sacred triforce)
Thoughts and prayers yo.
I'd rather cash in.
@@CoolHistoryBros Well it worked :shrug:
@@CoolHistoryBros if it work it work
Works like a charm!!
50 years later: Milord! A black day, Shikken, for our finances have plummeted! And the emperor connives with substantial dissenting elements among the peasantry, warrior clergies, and the elites!
Lesson from Chinese history: never chain your boats together
Appears behind Cao Cao, "Zhuge Liang and Zhou Yu send their regards," lights match.
Argentina; I disagree
Xerxes chained hundreds of ships together to connect two coasts and form a great pontoon bridge for his armies to reach Greece... and this was destroyed by a storm. He rebuilt the bridge because hey, he had another 300 ships, marched his army across. When it came time to retreat, the bridge had been destroyed by storms yet again. All great kings and emperors should know: if you invade a smaller country and chain your boats together, expect storms.
@@tomflaherty2371 having his plan thwarted, Xerxes then proceed to punish the sea by ferocious lashes and verbal admonishment 🙃
It probably is some kind of effective common tactics but because of survivorship bias we probably only hear about it when fail disastrously lol
I also think that the boats/ships used from the Chinese, were actually not very SEA-worthy, as they were really designed for rivers not ocean travel. A boat/ship made for ocean travel is very different than one made for rivers and other non-ocean travels. I also think that they chinese were also sabotaging the mongol efforts.
The Samurai did well defending the Mongol invasion.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 and the nature play a part itself
Next time i cant pay my rent im going to pray double. Maybe the wind will blow the landlord away.
You just need to fart hard and smelly, this "Godly wind" is guaranteed to scare off the landlord.😉😉😁😁
Mongol General: “hey, bro how do i tell that group of soldiers to flank the enemy?”
Translator:”我不知道。我不會說韓語”
Mongol general: “Ай?“
Mongol invasion of japan
Can't wait till Ghost of Tsushima adds the Thoughts And Prayers dlc
Technically you do a lot of praying already in the game
I read in a book about the Mongol Empire by John Man the southern force in the second invasion had a lot of river boats not meant for ocean travel and couldn't modify them because Kublai was getting older and wanted the conquest. He said they tried using trebuchets on the ships to hit the Japanese boats but because they are trebuchets you can't really hit moving targets fast enough. I don't know if he's right but it sounded interesting. He mentioned a samurai named Suenaga who fought in both invasions had mentioned the thunder crash bombs in some kind of memoir. It was also interesting hat a man named Tiger Mozai learned to dive in the 80s when he was an old man and actually found remnants in the water of the battle. I thought that was interesting that wrecks of the battle were down there for so long and that this guy was do dedicated to finding it he learned how to swim and dive at an old age.
This video was uploaded around the time Ghost of Tsushima was released. Coincidence? I think not
Scheduling FTW!😆
looks like you cracked the case.
The basis that the typhoon wiped out the Mongolian army is based on the religious book "Hachiman Gudou-kun"(八幡愚童訓).
The content of the religion book is "The god Hachiman appeared, fought the Mongolian army, and caused a storm. Faith is important." This content has been cut out and becomes a myth.
According to the historical materials "Yuan-shi"(元史) and "Goryeosa" （高麗史） on the Mongolian side, in the 1274 war, the Mongolian army was attacked by the Japanese army and decided to withdraw. It is said that there was a typhoon after that.
In the war of 1281, the Mongolian army invaded Japan with 150,000, but due to the attack of the samurai, it could not land for two months and a typhoon came and the Mongolian army was seriously damaged. However, the undamaged army that had spread widely in the sea area remains, and the Mongolian army continues the war with a force of nearly 100,000, but the Mongolian army is destroyed by the Japanese army of 65,000.
The Mongolian army that fought with the samurai left behind historical materials for the samurai threat theory, which continued in posterity.
From the book "汎海小録" by Wang Yun（王惲）, a scholar of the Yuan Dynasty. "Samurai are equipped with bows, katana, and armor. They don't have spears. Cavalry fight in groups. Armor is elaborate and many are wearing it. The katana is long and sharp. All the soldiers are brave and do not fear death." "About 120,000 soldiers were all killed by advancing Japanese warriors." "Yuan army was defeated. After that, Japan sent a messenger to the Kingdom of Champa in Vietnam and accused him of being a subordinate country without fighting the Yuan dynasty.Champa decided to disobey the Yuan dynasty."
From Yuan Dynasty scholar Zheng Si-xiao(鄭思肖)'s book "心史". "Japanese samurai are merciless, samurai are not afraid to die. Even if ten samurai fight against a hundred Mongolian soldiers, they will stand up and fight. Samurai will fight until they die. Katana is extremely sharp."
From Wu Lai(呉莱), a scholar of the Yuan dynasty, the book “隣交徴書”. "The Japanese of today are not the same as those of the old war. Their strength is ten times that of the old."
From the book "日本一鑑" by the scholar of the Ming Dynasty, Zheng Shungong(鄭舜功). "We only lost the soldiers and were embarrassed," the memory of the invasion was taken critically in later times.
Kubirai started preparing for the invasion of Japan again, but those around him admonished Kubirai to stop the invasion of Japan.
Kubirai had no choice but to announce the cancellation of the Japan expedition.
Chinese university professor Wang Ying points out that the defeat of Mongolia has significantly changed China's view of Japan, forming a ferocious and heroic image of samurai and the threat of Japan.
This memory also served as a deterrent to suppress the theory of conquest of Japan by the later dynasties.
"Ming History"(明史) Volume 322 says "Hongwu Emperor has stopped thinking of conquering Japan in view of Kubilai's defeat in Japan."
Thanks for all the additional info, TN.
Didn't katana came to existence in late 13 century.
@@moogiibat5845 katana (刀) is a general term for Japanese-style single-edged swords. katana is a word that corresponds to dao (刀) in China and sword in the West.
tachi (太刀) is written as thick (太), katana (刀). Although tachi is long and thick, it is a kind of katana that can be used by cavalry because the center of gravity is at hand. Around the 12th century, uchigatana (打刀) was developed. uchigatana is written as strike(打) and gatana(刀). uchigatana is a type of katana made mainly for infantry warfare. It was developed from sasuga (刺刀) written as stab (刺) and katana (刀). This has nothing to do with Mongolia. Since these have different purposes, tachi was used even after uchigatana was created. Japan exported katana, naginata, and sulfur as a raw material for gunpowder during the Song dynasty (960-1279), and katana was very popular.
The politician and poet Au Joeng Sau (1007-1072) has released a work called "Japanese katana Song" (日本刀歌). This is a poem praising katana and Japanese technology. The original text of a history book written by a Mongolian scholar says "倭刀極利"(Japanese katana is extremely sharp)," 刀製長極犀 "(Katana is long and extremely sharp).
After the war between Japan and Mongolia, katana's reputation increased, so Japan exports katana to Mongolia and the Yuan dynasty.
There seems to be a community that wants to spread the false information that katana was invented after the 16th century. "Tachi (太刀)) is not katana (刀). ] Does not hold as a sentence. This is "miao dao (苗刀) is not dao (刀). "Viking Sword is not a sword. It is the same as saying.
@@tn1881 It is interesting that the Chinese, Koreans, and Mongols speak so highly of the Japanese swords. What were their own swords like in comparison? I suppose mostly one handers?
@@klikssiikubra314 One-handed swords were the mainstream for Chinese, Koreans, and Mongolians.
The Ming dynasty general Qi Jiguang's martial arts book Jixiao Xinshu and the martial artist Cheng Zhongyou's Dandaofa Xuan state that soldiers using one-handed swords and spears could not beat the Japanese with tachi.
They are studying katana and samurai martial arts.
Ming dynasty military scholar Mao Yuanyi (1594-1640?) “Japanese katana is very strong and sharp, and cannot be countered by a Chinese sword.”
commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:%E6%AD%A6%E8%97%9D%E5%9C%96%E8%AD%9C%E9%80%9A%E5%BF%97_002 .pdf
His record is on page 45 of this book.
As a result, the Ming dynasty created a miao dao similar to katana.
that texting had me dying
Dude was like “moshi moshi” XD
I will be starting Ghost soon so - thanks for this. I also just finished watching The Longest Day in Chang'an and would love to get some historical ground on Great Tang period. Loved that series!!
Well, if it works...
Though, really, the thing about being on the sea is, there _will_ be storms. Get onto land if you want to live. The samurai keeping the Mongols from successfully landing is what saved the day.
In other words, that's an environmental kill, or a stage fatality, if you will. Which is epic in its own way. Pro gamer move.
Please do the Mongol invasions of Korea! I think the three decade conflict and the Sambyeolcho rebellion are fascinating in their own right!
6:42 Had me dying lmao
TBF to them, those thoughts and prayer did manifest into a physical form that stomped the invading Mongols, twice.
Well, the only cool thing of this whole story is that they reinvented their swords that later become modern katanas
Great choice of artstyle. I like your presentation. Keep it up.
From slave soldier to regular slave. Outstanding luck.
In a generation or two, their children witnesses a potential imperial restoration that was never restored
The voice acting is awesome lol
Korean govermant told "this period is too dangerous because of typhoon" but mongolian king did attack.
after landing Korean generals told "we have to go capital city right now then we can capture japanese king" but mongolian general did nothing on ship.
if mongolian general was clever attack could success.
I mean it's not like he wasn't deliberately doing anything. In the first invasion the mongol did have some success going inland but their camp were soon destroyed and have to retreated back to their ships. The second invasion was even worse
even in medival times, japanese still ghosting everyone
Excellent work here.
Very good 👍.
Maybe cover the mongol invasion of Vietnam next? I knew pretty much nothing about it.
Ok, sounds doable. But give me a little time, because I already have a few Ghost of Tsushima related videos planned.
The failed Mongol expedition to Java to take over Singhasari would also make a cool topic - we don't get a lot of coverage of this part of the world in history videos!
underrated channel !!
Love the narrator's voice in these vids.
Very good quality video. Please cover Mongol invasion of Vietnam next! I think it will be interesting
All right, since a few of you have asked for it, I will cover it. But give me some time since I already have a few other videos planned.
The phone part is priceless lol.
Crazy you have so few subscribers with content like this. Brilliant work. Earned my like and sub! Can’t wait for more!
Imagine if they attacked in the winter in 1281, the driest season of the year in Kyushu. Or late autumn, or early spring. Really any time of the year that isn’t the middle of monsoon season
Especially when you consider that the Mongols defeated Russia in 2 winter military campaigns in 1237 and 1240. And compared to Russia, Kyushu winters are mild at worst
Liked and shared. Was already subscribed.
Fascinating stuff . . . err . . . subarashi stuffu.
One story is that part of the Mongol's problem was using hastily converted riverboats that didn't have keels for the open sea. Did you run across that in your research?
It wasn't as cool as I thought it was but you make it more hilarious than what I thought it could be possible.
who would win:
The strongest nomad army of all time or one windy boy ?
Yeah i dunno why people would realistically view that time period in thag way, samurai were still strickly horsemen using a bow, and in tsushima they were very low in number, and the mongols couldn't bring their horses, or at least a very small amount of them. The entire conflict was such a farce on both ends, but the first mongol invasion was when japan realized it needed commoners to start really fighting which gave rise to the "ashigaru"
If you want a proper, good in-depth look into the Mongol Invasions and the subsequent Sengoku Jidai, I'd recommend a look at "The Shogunate" channel who has done a 50+ episode series spanning the precursor to it and the actual war(s).
Look like Japan exchange their extreme luck in wars with having to endure many disaster.
3:19 did I just hear a depiction of Korean saying a Chinese profanity 'ciba*'? If that's the case, it's a good reason I had a good laugh
Best video about Genko I've seen.
Your video was for the most part accurate but King Chungnyeol of Goryeo didn't instigate nor requested a Japanese invasion. Chungnyeol was rather focusing on strengthening Goryeo's autonomous status as a vassal and negotiated with the Mongols to have their lands taken away during their war with them returned. But there were no requests made by the Korean king himself for an expedition that would obviously cost Korean lives. It was rather Kublai's one way pressure on the Koreans to have them mobilize a grand fleet.
Shouting "katsu!"
13th C : Decisive military leader
21st C : Decisively hungry lard bucket looking for deep fried food with unlimited cabbage, also has gout like Kublai
More like a decisive regent statesman in his youngest prime. The military leadership goes to the provincial clans that governs the areas invaded by the Yuan Empire
This is very similar to Seirei Moribito live action where the Talsh Empire invade New Yogo, the Emperor (who was under the delusion that he's a god) only pray for victory (& refuse to ally with other nations to fight. For a holy army can't be seen working with mortals & a god can't be considered equal to moral kings) then a great flood(which was showing signs even before the war, that's why the Yogo crown prince wanted to end the war by allying with the 2 neighbor countries before the flood come, incase the Tallsh take advantage of it) ended the war
so the mongols came in, ready for war, and *died in a tornado.*
Remember kids, one prayer per day keeps the mongol away
That's way more interesting than "lol weather"
Dear Mr CJ, we have not had a video from you in months. God willing, hope you are fine, sir. God bless!
In 1274,Korean troops landed on Tsushima and they massacred 2000 inhabitants of Tsushima. In 1281, Korean troops landed on Tsushima again. And they killed 2000 inhabitants too. Mongolian force could not bring horses by ship. No horse Mongolian troops were just like chicken. While Samurai had very sharp Japanese sword as well as razor. This is very important point for the fighting. As in narrow ship, Mongolian troop grasped samurai's sword.
Mongolian troops got used to grasp enemy's continental sword like hatchet by leather glove.
But Japanese sword was so sharp unfortunately. Their fingers were cut down. Injured Mongolians were like stone. After the end of battle, samurai killed all fallen troops as manners as warrior. in narrow ship, Japanese sword martial arts was useful. Mongolian and Korean troops like to grasp enemy's sword soon.
Sounds like an abridged version of game of thrones
Cool, never knew there were grenades back then
What the hell oh my 😭
Prayers work
Every dad DMing to his zoomer kid. 1:54
...I just finished platinum-ing Ghosts of Tsushima, so finding this video is pretty appropriate.
It just bad luck for Mongols, if only Mongol attack on different side they win. The Strom just happen because of nature. They don't have experience in water battle.
Sending thoughts and prayers instead of doing anything -so that's what western politicians mean when they say they have learnt from eastern wisdom.
That’s what any ordinary person actually mean when we say ‘give moral support’.
Hey maaan thanks for your last reply , do you think you could or would ever go into more depth on this subject one day? or possibly even the Japanese invasion of Korea :D ??
...from the Hojo clan...
...if you don’t know, the Hojo clan famously married their daughters to te royal family securing control of the royal court for a century!
No! Get out of my head Lifamy!!! D,:
Hojo or fujiwara???
East asian medieval history is very intresting.
I´m really disapointed with the current relations of east asian contries. I really hope it will get much better in the comming years
@Ti Klim If by The West you mean The US. And i Guess Britain. Then yeah.
@Ti Klim lol until the One Child policy finally matures eh?
@@CarrotConsumer Lol. You do realised the one child policy was so Last decade
First 20 seconds I was like: "Oh snap! I clicked on a 'Simple History' video."
Then I was like: "Great parody of US American infotainment videos."
Subbed your channel. Watched some of your videos and enjoyed every single one. Informative but also presented in an entertaining way.
Ships - made in China
ships=chips thats fact
For their Mongol overlord.
Maybe the morale/fighting spirit of parts of the Mongol Army wasn't that great because they were made up from CONQUERED people who were FORCED to fight for their former enemy(the Mongols).
Especially Song dynasty warriors after Song was defeated by the Mongols might have had very mixed feelings about fighting for the Mongols.
It's like Russia forcing Ukraine soldiers to fight on their side, the result might be underwhelming.
Whatever happened to the enslaved Chinese and Korean? Did they assimilate in to Japanese society and last name changed as well
Yeah. I guess I can talk about that in the future. It's quite a fascinating topic.
Assimilated to Mongolian culture until the rise of Ming Dynasty in China and Joseon Dynasty of Korea
Did you say political trainwreck? *grabs popcorn and chair* Alright hit me bro.
So like wtf Ghost of Tsushima game is so wrong at many levels...
In the technically one samurai stopped the invasion in the tsushima.
But in the reality they did lose tsushima and other islands. 🙃🧐🧐
Yeah and there isn't supposed to be any snow in the island too. It feels like they've picked a name for the game's title and changed everything to make the title relevant.
I think it’s implied that it’s historical fiction. The game never states “This is 100% historically accurate”.
@@CoolHistoryBros 😂😂😂 Tsushima is in southern Japan so it should have a humid subtropical climate. It shouldn't even have snow to begin with
Even The Way The game looks kinda shows that it's more of a fairy tale than a representation of reality
And katana was only used as a main weapon after the Mongol invasion.
"Khubilai was ghosted" 🤣🤣
Time to start recruiting Shinto and Buddhists to pray for me.
One step back...y did Koreans want to invade japan 🇯🇵?
Remember, the history of Yuan was criticized for some of its flaws
th-cam.com/video/FxMVOa1kzw4/w-d-xo.html linfamy said that the goryeo vassal king had absolutely no desire to be anything to do with that
to be fair the prayers did work
Conquering someone to acquire their warriors is some big brain move ngl.
Jingis Xan . . . with the "X" as in Russian. Thanks. English spelling is deceptive.
Ghosting of Tsushima
Please make a video on the non woke historically accurate "wild west".
Chinese troops under mongol leadership. During those days china was under mongol suzerienity.
Not under Mongol Suzerainty. They are actually colonized by the Mongols.
Those prayers worked. Japanese culture fascinates me
Average military fan vs average prayer enjoyer
12:44 the samurai: UNGRATEFUR FFFUKS!!!
ah shit, it reminds me of the aftermath of the 2nd punic war after scipio africanus defeated hannibal barca at zama. he was not given a hero's welcome in rome. after a political scandal *ALLEGEDLY* involving his brother, scipio exiled himself away from the city and then died outside of it years later. his last words (on his tombstone) was written "ingrata patria ne ossa qvidem mea habes" or "ungrateful country, you shall never even possess my bones" or as i like to quote, "UNGRATEFUL FUKS!!! YOU WILL NEVER EVEN POSSESS MY DICK!!!"
so was fate also befell upon his surviving nemesis, hannibal. after scipio spared him instead of chaining him in a parade of a triumph to execute him later, hannibal served in carthaginian politics in the city itself. he brought prosperity to the city but then a political scandal caused him to get the fuk outta there just because he had the mindset of julius caesar and wu zetian (pro pleb policy)
Died in a tornado🌪🌪🌪
OMG brooo my stomach hurt, laughing
Wait .. what about the 3rd invasion?
This actually happened?!! XD wow...
Poor song Chinese 😂 from allies to enemies to slaves.
a pattern that alas repeated itself 500 years later....
@@meilinchan7314 during the Manchu Qing Buddhist extremism dynasty.
@@meilinchan7314 Han people were enslaved by the fierce Samurai warriors haha.
@@jackjackyphantom8854 Then the samurai warriors commit seppuku and bombed by atomic weapons
Again ocean saved them of course
Why no one talking about that his video title type wrong, for word force he wrote farce.
Farce is the right word in this context. He is describing how the military and political strategies were so incompetent that they were a joke. A farce is basically a type of theatre. It seems like satire that the giant empire could not invade the little island. Or that Japan's leaders chose to pray instead of helping their warriors.
That accent sounds....Familiar.
Kamikaze. Yeah, that's me.
Sounds like the thoughts and prayers worked.
No. It’s even cooler. With a side of humor to boot.
You know, I just realized this had the same energy as the battle of Actium in the last war of the Roman Republic
- Praying works! FACT!!!!
And they died in tornado
HAHAHA LIKING THIS FOR CHIBA-*Censored
Somalis simply killed the envoys back to back and spared Africa the Mongolian army 😭
I SENT YOU MY EMISSARIES ANSWER ME
hahahha
MOngul sent the letters to Japan? Koreans saved Japan. YouR fate history is really BAD.
Kublai of the Mongol Empire was unaware of the existence of Japan, but was told by the commander of Goryeo that a lot of gold was sleeping in Japan, so he decided to attack Japan.
Koreans are the enemy nation that invaded Japan.
It was the Southern Song people who were on Japan's side, not the Koreans.
The Southern Song dynasty was also destroyed by the Mongols, and the Southern Song prisoners who attacked Japan were released, but all the Goryeo people, Mongolians and Jurchens were executed.
The war of small eye vs slight bigger eye people
Japan was lucky it was a island just like england in ww2. If not, or if there was a land bridge they would have been destroyed just like england would have
As The Shogun channel puts it: "The Mongols tried to invade Japan...and got defeated by bad weather."
Fun fact:samurai who deployed to Kyushu when first invasion,they loot Japanese city before mongol landing just in case of they fail to get spoils.
(Don’t be judge samurai were savage,at that time all of Japanese and maybe all of humanity were savage and selfish XD)