The 10 Oldest Cities in the UK

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  • @AlexinGreatBritain
    @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Just to clear up some confusion: the premise of this list is cities with the longest unbroken city status. So that means Roman history is essentially a red herring in this case as the Romans abandoned Britain in the 5th century.

    • @robtyman4281
      @robtyman4281 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Ah, so this is why Chester doesn't appear here then? As it should really be in this list.

    • @peterharrison966
      @peterharrison966 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Totally Agree, If Chester not on this List then I Reckon the List Is Wrong,But The we all Entitled to Believe What Is Right or Wrong

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@robtyman4281 It is slightly baffling as to how people are mostly kicking off about Chester in particular, considering Chester Cathedral was an abbey church until the 16th century.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@peterharrison966 How is it wrong? The Diocese of Chester formed in 1541.

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Chester should be on the list and that is final.!

  • @stevenhoughton1406
    @stevenhoughton1406 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I live in Birmingham and I have never been to Any of these places ever. I'm going to make it my mission to try and visit as many of these places as possible. I really do need to get out and explore more.

    • @MartinMilnerUK
      @MartinMilnerUK ปีที่แล้ว +7

      You do. I am quite surprised you have not been to York. The train links are excellent.

    • @heliotropezzz333
      @heliotropezzz333 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Worcester is close to you. I grew up in Brum and have been to all these cities except for Bangor, Winchester and Lichfield. I like exploring the UK and had always wanted to visit the latter 2 but haven't yet got round to it (plans to visit Winchester earlier this year were thwarted). Lichfield was the home of Dr Samuel Johnson, a favourite historical character. I didn't know much about Bangor before or that it was so old. Now I want to visit it.

    • @marieascot
      @marieascot 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lichfield is a must

    • @superderv
      @superderv 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I'm from Birmingham but moved to Lichfield 3 years ago... It's a 30 minuet drive from Birmingham City centre! Come and say hi

  • @mrbutch308
    @mrbutch308 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I am an American, living in the state of Pennsylvania. In my state there are towns and cities bearing the names of every one of these cities in Great Britain, with the exception of Lichfield. Most are in eastern Pennsylvania near Philadelphia and one is in the west part of the state near Pittsburgh.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Well, Penn was quite influential in the State named after him (they probably shouldn't have named an island after him though), but it's not uncommon to see British influences. Even Washington is an Anglo-Norman surname (you can tell the difference between Anglo-Saxon surnames and Norman in general because Anglo-Saxons tended toward vocational names like Walker, Smith, Field etc where Normans tended toward topological based surnames like Washington (a town in County Durham) etc) harking from County Durham and the Washington heraldic shield of stars and stripes is featured in stained glass windows at Durham Cathedral, no doubt the family were involved in financing the build as this was a mechanism for raising the profile and status of both the place a cathedral was built but also of those who paid for it to be built.

    • @Stand663
      @Stand663 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wasn’t the original US capital Pennsylvania before it became Washington. ? I think I read it somewhere long ago.

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Stand663
      Philly?

    • @mrbutch308
      @mrbutch308 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Stand663 Actually New York City was the first capital of the newly independent USA in 1785. That is where George Washington took his oath of office as First President. The capital moved to Philadelphia from 1790 through 1800. After that the city of Washington was purposely built to be the young nation's capital. A few other cities served as capital, such as Baltimore, but for only brief periods.

    • @mrbutch308
      @mrbutch308 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Stand663 There was representative government in each of the colonies before the Revolution. After the Treaty of Paris, in which Great Britain conceded defeat and recognized American independence, there were lengthy discussions and debates in Philadelphia where the Continental Congress was meeting. The Founding Fathers - men like Dr. Benjamin Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Alexander Hamilton and the others - were brilliant scholars whose erudition was recognized in the courts of Europe. The drafting of the Constitution of the United States was a painstaking process and no they were not just making things up as they went along; they understood law, government, democracy, history, etc. It is the Constitution which spells out the role and responsibilities of the president, and this form of government is a republic, not a monarchy, and functions without the royal protocols or offices.

  • @brucewilliams8714
    @brucewilliams8714 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    This was great. I have been to all these cities in my visits to Britain, because of their cathedrals. Indeed, I've visited every ancient cathedral; plus some that began as a parish church; and the three modern purpose-built - Liverpool, Coventry and Guildford.
    I really appreciated your research and presentation.
    Greetings from Australia.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Hey, thanks for the kind words! Liverpool's probably my favourite modern(ish) cathedral.

    • @russell-di8js
      @russell-di8js 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Saint Asaph in North Wales is atop a hillock in the flat Vale of Clwyd & in my opinion as a local is well worth a visit

    • @tocaat2410
      @tocaat2410 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good on ya for mentioning Guildford, which is my local cathedral (one of a very few built in modern times - I remember wandering about the unfinished building when still a school kid). I emigrated with family to Australia (Melbourne) while still attending school. Lived there until early 30s, when I returned to England for career reasons (now live about 30 minutes away from Guildford).

    • @sifridbassoon
      @sifridbassoon 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm jealous

  • @Maggy47
    @Maggy47 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    York is my favourite city to visit however Durham is close to me and never tire of shopping there

    • @mikecoulson9709
      @mikecoulson9709 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      York is my birthplace, I’ld love to visit Durham 😊

    • @RomayPM
      @RomayPM 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Edinburgh, though I don't believe it has a cathedral, though I might be wrong, I love that city. Then York and Durham for me 😊

  • @philiprobinson2011
    @philiprobinson2011 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I know you are looking at the oldest recorded Cities, but I am surprised Colchester did not make the list. Of course technically Colchester only officially became a city in 2022, but if you go much further back in time there is a twist. Colchester was originally founded by the Romans as a Colonia in AD49 by the Emperor Claudius, and of course a Colonia was to the Romans what a City is to us today. So as Colchester became a city in AD49, that predates any other city in England, even though it has not held city status for all of the intervening period.

    • @beccabbea2511
      @beccabbea2511 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm pleased you pointed that out as Colchester is the oldest recorded town/city in Britain.

    • @SparkAttack86
      @SparkAttack86 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is correct. By record, Colchester is written as a colonia and was also recorded as a city in Domesday in 1086. Colchester is the oldest city and first capital of Britain. Its recent city status was acknowledged as a reinstating its ancient lost city status

    • @kubhlaikhan2015
      @kubhlaikhan2015 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Also effectively Britain's capital city for a time too - the first base of Roman power in Britain. Which is why Boadicea burned it to the ground and why The Morte D'Arthur names it as the restored capital in the early dark ages. Camulo-dunum.

    • @louisegladwin-troy1254
      @louisegladwin-troy1254 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Colchester is oldest town in UK 🇬🇧. Born and bred their!!!

    • @kubhlaikhan2015
      @kubhlaikhan2015 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@louisegladwin-troy1254 Very possibly. I recently read that it was a Celtic capital even before the arrival of the Romans. Seriously under-researched and under-appreciated I think.

  • @TheEulerID
    @TheEulerID ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Lichfield is the only remaining medieval cathedral with a triple spire, but Lincoln Cathedral had one until 1548 which, at 525 feet, was the tallest building in the world for over 200 years.

    • @risvegliato
      @risvegliato ปีที่แล้ว

      yes indeed! I live in Lichfield Diocese, but Lincoln is my favourite cathedral by far. It fell down more than once I think?

    • @LewisLittle66
      @LewisLittle66 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@risvegliato It did indeed (not the whole cathedral, but the spire). First time, the whole roof including the spire was destroyed by fire in 1124. The re-built spire fell during an earthquake in 1185 and again it was re-built. This one collapsed in 1548 and was not re-built due to prohibitive cost.

    • @andrewwaddoups3544
      @andrewwaddoups3544 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The Litchfield cathedral had a twin in Coventry, as it was the bishopric of Litchfield and Coventry, and the King of Mercia, Leofric was buried with his wife Godiva there. Coventry cathedral was destroyed by Henry VIII in the dissolution of the monasteries in the 16th Century. Coventry was established by King Offa, and it is believed that is where Coventry gets its name from, Offa's Tree. Coventry is a city of equal age as Litchfield, and was also a County at one stage.

  • @suecox2308
    @suecox2308 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Fascinating--some surprises here--I didn't realize Hereford was so ancient--thank you!

    • @vordman
      @vordman ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My home city. We have a copy of the Magna Carta, the Mappa Mundi and the largest chained library in the world. But I agree, it often gets overlooked and it's probably more famous these days as the home of the SAS and Bulmers Cider!

    • @faithlesshound5621
      @faithlesshound5621 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Here" was what the Anglo-Saxons called an army: it's cognate with the modern German "Heer."

  • @martinlee5604
    @martinlee5604 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is excellent. One of the best videos I've watched.

  • @JaneAndrews-y3b
    @JaneAndrews-y3b ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I learn something new every time I join your channel Alex, just love all this information often about familiar places. Looking forward to more of your super content on this channel

  • @Ygyhhhhhhhh
    @Ygyhhhhhhhh ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Perhaps a useful addition might be Colchester which has now become a city. It certainly predates London and was formerly known as the oldest town in England.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Oh it's undoubtedly one of the oldest, if not THE oldest. The only reason I've not included it here is one of the conditions is having unbroken city status since 'time immemorial'.

    • @mike-js2510
      @mike-js2510 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Technically it is the oldest RECORDED town in England, due to a document located in the Vatican Library. Was also the capital of Roman England prior to it moving to, I think, Winchester.

    • @catherinesmalley8587
      @catherinesmalley8587 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As you say it's only just been made a city, then it doesn't qualify as being one of the ten oldest cities. One of the ten newest cities yes but not one of the ten oldest...

    • @flashtheoriginal
      @flashtheoriginal ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes Camoludunum (spelling) the Roman capital of Britain. I like Colchester, loads of history excellently observed/preserved

    • @PreservationEnthusiast
      @PreservationEnthusiast ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@flashtheoriginal Colchester is an absolute dump.
      Caesaromagus, Chelmsford >>>>> Colchester
      Chelmsford is both an older City than Colchester and it has a very nice cathedral. It is both the administrative centre and route centre in Essex.
      In all city related respects, Chelmsford beats Colchester with ease!

  • @limitless5000
    @limitless5000 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Such a relaxing and interesting way to spend 12 minutes. I’d love to hear some deeper dives. Thank you.

  • @derekblythe6143
    @derekblythe6143 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    When the domesday book was introduced in 1086 carlisle was part of scotland & not included in the norman survey,probably why we weren't mentioned.

  • @gazbrucia1654
    @gazbrucia1654 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    a very well researched and presented clip. I was fortunate to spend 20 years living in York, spectacular. Maybe you should do a follow up Cities 11-20.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thanks, that's not a bad idea. And yeah, York is amazing!

    • @DS-um9hi
      @DS-um9hi ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@AlexinGreatBritainif you do, please leave Chester out, I am having fun reading all the frothing comments! 😅

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@DS-um9hi Haha, that'd be the ultimate troll!

  • @kindnesscake2819
    @kindnesscake2819 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just found your channel, thank you... very enjoyable content 👍

  • @gregorywhite9095
    @gregorywhite9095 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    A beautiful video...very well done!

  • @Readrose8
    @Readrose8 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Such beautiful places too ❤ I an so grateful for the preservation of such architecture.

  • @carmenfinn7521
    @carmenfinn7521 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Don't get me wrong, London is very majestic but I do prefer the smaller places. They are all so beautiful! I really need to put Wells and Winchester on my bucket list!!!

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      They're both great for day trips if you get the opportunity!

    • @MartinMilnerUK
      @MartinMilnerUK ปีที่แล้ว

      You will find the centre of Wells absolutely stunning with the amazing cathedral (and especially the W. face), the Bishop's Palace and gardens and the adjacent almshouses complex. So, so amazing and if you're fit you can walk to nearby Glastonbury and Cheddar Gorge. A lovely part of the south-west.

  • @robinhughes8822
    @robinhughes8822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    How come Milton Keynes wasn’t mention ,the way the vikings crafted cows from concrete will for ever baffle historians

  • @tri5ia
    @tri5ia ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video. The Roman name for Canterbury, Durovernum Cantiacorum, is a Latinised version of the Brythonic Duroernum (a rough approx) meaning Fort of the Alders. Canterbury is home to the oldest church in England still in use as a church today, St Martin’s. It was built in 597 but bricks from Roman ruins were used in the construction. The Roman road of Watling Street runs through Canterbury. When the Saxons arrived they kept the Cantiacorum part of the name, anglicising it to Cantwarebyrig - Fortress of the Men of Kent.

  • @larryjones-emery807
    @larryjones-emery807 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for the excellent data and Commentary!

  • @dijanawarrender8627
    @dijanawarrender8627 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I wrote my list before watching your video and it featured St Albans, Colchester and Edinburgh

  • @nwtn9878
    @nwtn9878 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    Did you forget about Chester?

    • @p.millard557
      @p.millard557 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I was defintely expecting Chester to be included.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It became a city in 1541 when the Diocese of Chester was formed.

    • @samhwilson
      @samhwilson ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@AlexinGreatBritain if you’re going off the presence of an Anglican cathedral then this is untrue. The first bishop to have his cathedra based in Chester was in 1075.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@samhwilson Right, but the see was transferred to Coventry later that century. So I made the discretionary decision not to include it in the top 10.

    • @josephfredbill
      @josephfredbill ปีที่แล้ว +3

      So you are making the decision on when the place became a city not on when the place was first settled (eg by the Romans) ? A dfferent categorisation could have been “the oldest settlements that are now cities” which would have pulled in Chester because of the roman settlement (indeed Lancaster as well and probably some others)

  • @susanlegeza7562
    @susanlegeza7562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all the history i am learning from your channel! Thank you!

  • @harrisonofthenorth
    @harrisonofthenorth ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Most excellent, I'd consider adding Glasgow to the list, where Glasgow Cathedral is considered to have been re-established in the reign of David I, which although originally founded as a monastic cell in the 7th century, would seem to be older than some of the others that you mentioned. The difficulty, of course, is the controversy over whether David I established it during his reign, or re-established it during his reign. Perhaps it should just be in a special category called 'Noteworthy', particularly because it's founder was a Celtic bishop and who for a while had his Celtic seat there.

    • @malcopops4
      @malcopops4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This does raise the problem that the definition of great Britain has changed so much during the time frame. Would probably be better to use current definition of Britain & current definition of city & just look at which have the oldest evidence of settlement. Would probably end up in a very long list though!

    • @harrisonofthenorth
      @harrisonofthenorth ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@malcopops4 The current and previous definitions of Britain seem to be the same - if a place has a cathedral, or is designated as a city, then it is a city; and Britain is Britain, that place that is named after the Pretanike and consists substantially of Albion and it's surrounding islands. You'll have to expound because I don't see your point. Unless you are just implying using comparative population numbers and assigning a threshold to the ancient world where meeting it constituted a city irrespective of modern-day definitions. But then there are ancient cities that are defined by that which is inside an ancient wall, called a walled city. Someone would have to do a study, however I think that from the moment that a place had a cathedral that it was a city, even in the ancient world, because the simple matter that it had the seat of a bishop, it must have been substantial in population numbers, bishops don't build cathedrals in hamlets.

    • @maryannedouglas
      @maryannedouglas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@malcopops4 Unless you're confusing england with Great Britain or the UK, i don't see where you're coming from. Great Britain is defined as the big island in a group of islands off of Europe's west coast. That hasn't changed, has it? And Glasgow is a city on the island of Great Britain, or has it moved?

    • @malcopops4
      @malcopops4 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@maryannedouglas I was confusing the terms great Britain & United Kingdom (which Scotland & Northern Ireland have been in&out of during the timeframe in question).
      My point about current definition of a city is that it would make sense to take the list of places which are currently cities (i think there's 70-80ish) and ask which 10 of these were inhabited first. But clearly my opinion is worthless as I don't even know what the words Great Britain mean!

    • @maryannedouglas
      @maryannedouglas 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@malcopops4 Neither Scotland nor Northern Ireland have ever not been part of the UK. The only country to leave the UK was Ireland in 1922.
      Regardless, Glasgow has always been on the island of Great Britain, and has (since Union) been part of the Kingdom of Great Britain and the UK.
      Point being; the OP was right to include Glasgow as the clip's title says UK, not england.

  • @Arlene-st5is
    @Arlene-st5is ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you Alex, such a wealth of information!

  • @doriskarloff964
    @doriskarloff964 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting - thanks for posting. The closed captions are a hoot.

  • @ShakeelAhmed-pr7gn
    @ShakeelAhmed-pr7gn ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Beautiful cathedrals.

  • @markgerrard383
    @markgerrard383 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    How can you include Hereford & Worcester without including the ancient Roman settlement of Glevum which predated both ?
    Omitting Gloucester is a serious error..

    • @citythink
      @citythink ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Canadian born son of a son of Gloucester here and I had to question this as well.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glevum was a colonia, yes. But Gloucester has only been a city since 1541 when the Diocese of Gloucester was formed.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It only became a city during Henry VIII's reign. Of course it was a Roman colonia, but this list is looking at longest unbroken city status.

    • @markgerrard383
      @markgerrard383 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@AlexinGreatBritain That's not true by your own criteria..
      1.The Cathedral was built in stages between 1089 to 1130 - so logically it became a cathedral city at the latest in 1130
      2. If you go to Gloucester Cathedral you will see the mounted statues of the 12 apostles beheaded as they were in many cathedrals & abbeys across the country as an act defiance against Rome during the 1536 Dissolution of the Monasteries.
      .
      ERGO
      Notwithstanding 1 if Gloucester was otherwise elevated to city status at any time in history it's highly unlikely to have been in the post Reformation years of Henry VIIIs reign.
      For these reasons I beg to differ with your logic & accuracy

    • @ekspatriat
      @ekspatriat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@markgerrard383 Born and grew up in Gloucester till I was 34 (now 65). Old city or not it's a shit-hole. (Now)

  • @jacklovejoy5290
    @jacklovejoy5290 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You missed Noviomagus Reginorum, or Chichester. It was founded by the Romans not long after the invasion, before becoming the capital of the Kingdom of Sussex and became the seat of a cathedral in 1075 when the bishophric was moved from Selsey to Chichester by the Council of London

  • @electraflame144
    @electraflame144 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Interesting thanks but very surprised not to see Edinburgh here. 🌟🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

    • @pauls3204
      @pauls3204 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or Dumbarton

  • @lesliekime7567
    @lesliekime7567 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting and informative, enjoyed that video and subscribed.

  • @SiL-uj2zl
    @SiL-uj2zl ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Surprised Norwich didn't make the list,especially as it has always been the de facto capital of East Anglia...

    • @liza-fr6zt
      @liza-fr6zt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely.

    • @cornovii3012
      @cornovii3012 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Or Chester

    • @alicejade3657
      @alicejade3657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not Cambridge? East Anglia is such a beautiful part of England

    • @SiL-uj2zl
      @SiL-uj2zl 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@alicejade3657 Norwich has always been bigger and more populous than beautiful Cambridge

  • @coombscharlie
    @coombscharlie ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was expecting to see St Albans/Verulamium and Colchester/Camulodunum on the list. Was their city status broken when Rome withdrew?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well yeah, Sub-Roman Britain i.e. post 410 AD was basically a wasteland for the most part.

  • @bobsyeruncle5557
    @bobsyeruncle5557 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video, really interesting. You have remarkable patience with all these people who think their city should have been included

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      You noticed? Haha, thanks! I didn't think people would be this protective over some Roman ruins!

  • @waynemillward2807
    @waynemillward2807 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative and interesting facts thankyou 👍 😊.

  • @MsDaver1000
    @MsDaver1000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was rooting for St Albans. Great video.

    • @MayYourGodGoWithYou
      @MayYourGodGoWithYou ปีที่แล้ว

      Me too.

    • @musicobsessive56
      @musicobsessive56 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And me. There has been a settlement there since the Iron Age but was only awarded City status in 1877.

  • @juni.Th17
    @juni.Th17 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    4:01 beautiful cathedral in Litchfield

  • @alisonjudithbailey9125
    @alisonjudithbailey9125 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Worth watching again for the narrative and beautiful shots of well-preserved ancient buildings and stunning Cathedrals (I am not so much bothered about the actual chronology)

  • @England.123.N.U.F.C.
    @England.123.N.U.F.C. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Enjoyed that mate, cheers..

  • @trevorveail
    @trevorveail 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It is odd that you missed Lincoln off of this list. It predates the Romans.

  • @KevinTheCaravanner
    @KevinTheCaravanner ปีที่แล้ว

    @AlexinGreatBritain you must have got up early in the morning to film so many sequences without people in the frame, especially York. I’m a bit of a history nut and I learned so much from this video. Thank you.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's very kind, thanks! Yeah some of the footage was shot quite early, but it was partially filmed during the pandemic period as well, at least in the case of York.

  • @free..to..air..
    @free..to..air.. 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A tourist could spend an entire holiday travelling from cathedral to cathedral in UK cities...such a rich variety of really beautiful buildings ..with some conducting tours for a small charge..like Durham...
    Personally..i was overawed by the architecture and majesty of Edinburgh and Liverpool's Anglican...tho the metroplitan cathedral there is also worth a visit

  • @nigelholroyd2942
    @nigelholroyd2942 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent presentation,
    well done sir. much appreciated. 👍
    ( I thought LINCOLN was olde & pre Roman too, but appreciate your analysis)

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Lincoln was extremely important to the Romans, but in terms of unbroken city status it just misses out.

  • @AJK72
    @AJK72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting video. I live in Worcester and know some of its history so had a hunch it would be on the list.

  • @christopherx7428
    @christopherx7428 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Interesting with so many cities where the origins are so ancient that no one knows when they were founded. Btw: "Strand" is the word for beach also in modern Swedish!

  • @martinwarner1178
    @martinwarner1178 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super video. Thank you. Peace be unto you.

  • @nealeraleigh8239
    @nealeraleigh8239 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting and very well researched

  • @alanhindmarch4483
    @alanhindmarch4483 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What about Ripon, Yorkshire. It is the Oldest City in England by Royal Charter and the fourth smallest.

    • @PaulTheCyclist.
      @PaulTheCyclist. ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was waiting to see it on the list, at 1100+years old

  • @dhm7815
    @dhm7815 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Americans generally mispronounce Worcester as WUR-shess-ter rather than wooster. People from the original Worcester founded a city in Massachusetts named Worcester and had to continually correct their fellow Americans' mispronunciation. People from Worcester, Massachusetts moved to Ohio and founded a city and just gave up and named it Wooster.

    • @margaretfitzgerald7187
      @margaretfitzgerald7187 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks for the instruction. This American looks at the spelling of the name and tries to say what she sees, but then English spelling is a historical hodgepodge. Incidentally, I live near Wooster, OH and keep a bottle of Worcester Sauce in the fridge.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@margaretfitzgerald7187Ooh triggered ..🙄🇬🇧

    • @margaretfitzgerald7187
      @margaretfitzgerald7187 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ionabrodie69 What do you mean?

    • @simonpitt8145
      @simonpitt8145 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@margaretfitzgerald7187 " Triggered ", in that context, is a fairly recent slang term made by British people to indicate that they believe someone has just been wound up and risen to the bait by overreacting to an earlier comment. For what it's worth, I don't think you were. I'd say that you gave a perfectly reasonable response, evidenced by the gentle and humorous Worcester Sauce comment. Sadly @lonabrodie thought otherwise.

    • @margaretfitzgerald7187
      @margaretfitzgerald7187 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ionabrodie69そうと思いませんよ。

  • @morgankarlsson6505
    @morgankarlsson6505 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interresting video. Romans both founded and conqured cities and when they left in the 400s, history becomes more tricky to keep track of. Great video.

  • @johnholt890
    @johnholt890 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great stuff I am fortunate to live 5 miles from Wells and am a bit of a cathedral nut. In England and Wales only Anglican ones I have not yet got to are Blackburn and Bradford - hope to get to those one day. Done at least half the French ones, and quite a few in Italy, Germany and Spain.

  • @dizzyduck44
    @dizzyduck44 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think we need to be careful here. By the author’s own admission some cities passed into city status as there doesn’t appear to be records for them, so somewhere such as Chester which has been in its present site since 79AD may well have been considered a city, it’s just that somebody kept records for it and didn’t name it as such till 1541. Possible due to the fact we have a history of its Mystery Plays alongside it. The Roman’s certainly considered it of major importance and the Saxon’s built there as well.

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, exactly. Chester should be on the list and that's final.!

    • @darthwiizius
      @darthwiizius ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Settlements endured and were reconstructed because they have an inherent advantage of location, so for example places with "ford" in the title were built around river crossings to control trade, act as a strategic military control etc. Just because we don't fully understand our ancestors doesn't mean we don't understand some of their motivations and logically assume some others.

    • @Ionabrodie69
      @Ionabrodie69 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EdwardThomas-mn5vdOh get over yourself..🙄🇬🇧

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ionabrodie69 thank you Iona brodie,
      Kisses. Xxxx

    • @EdwardThomas-mn5vd
      @EdwardThomas-mn5vd ปีที่แล้ว

      You know I, m right.

  • @diannewheatleygiliotti8513
    @diannewheatleygiliotti8513 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Outstanding. Thank you.

  • @Madonnalitta1
    @Madonnalitta1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didn't know Bangor was ancient.
    Interesting video.

  • @lesleymcshanemitchell9651
    @lesleymcshanemitchell9651 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Really enjoyed this

  • @TheStobb50
    @TheStobb50 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What about Edinburgh Sterling Glasgow know that place north of the border still part of the uk/United Kingdom of Great Britain.
    Actually, looking further into it, it’s not as straightforward as you might think Elgin has had a cathedral or bishopric from 10 Century roughly and Elgin is not a city, Scotland Has had bishops going back to 9th century Scotland had a very different way of designating cities status, is the oldest official city in Scotland is Dundee granted, by Queen Victoria. Until the industrial revolution scotland didn’t have a tradition of urban, living administrative centres. Only had a very small population as such what we would described as a city now didn’t really exist in Scotland..
    i’ve got to add a very good video forgetting people, thinking and talking thank you

  • @NSYresearch
    @NSYresearch 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    As a resident of Wells I love having the cathedral here.

    • @MsCheesemonster13
      @MsCheesemonster13 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I had to choose my favourite cathedral in the UK, it would be Wells. You are so lucky. 😊

  • @markirving249
    @markirving249 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excuse me but why is Carlisle not included as it has been a city since Roman times?

  • @ronhall9039
    @ronhall9039 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    One small point - don't berate the Saxons too much as they really only were in the south of England. Northumbria, Mercia and Anglia were not Saxons but were Angles (as in Anglo-Saxon, Angleterre, Angelcynn).
    Modern history has tended to paint out the Angles, but they were definitely there, although their proximity to Scandinavia caused their ultimate downfall.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh I'm with you on that. It's just their record keeping prior to the 9th century wasn't the best, leaving us with little information to go on regarding entire kingdoms like Essex, and same for the Angles regarding Hwicce, Lindsey etc.

    • @Stoggler
      @Stoggler 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agree with you there. I dislike the casual use of Saxon as a catch-all term for pre-1066 England, especially when there was also a Duchy of Saxony on the continent from the 9th century onwards (and there was Saxon lands prior to that), so Saxon refers to that entity (although context should be taken into consideration). Also by the latter AS period, English (or englisc to use their spelling) was the term used the people of the period.

    • @stop-the-greed
      @stop-the-greed 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@StogglerSaxons came from the duchy of Saxony

    • @white-dragon4424
      @white-dragon4424 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They were so influential that the word "English" came from "Angle-ish".

  • @margaretyates4937
    @margaretyates4937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree what about Chester. And where was Durham in the list

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      Durham was literally the first city I featured as an honourable mention. Did you skip over that part? Chester became a city in 1541. Deva Victrix is irrelevant as the Romans abandoned it along with the whole island.

  • @alfiecat9288
    @alfiecat9288 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Erm Lincoln or Lindum, definitely should be on this list. Is there a reason why, the excel being York, the other cities are in the West and south of the country.

  • @traceystones5876
    @traceystones5876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very interesting I going to have to listen again

  • @grimreaper-qh2zn
    @grimreaper-qh2zn ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excuse me but your definition says with an Anglican Cathedral. Hence no City meets this requirement before Henry VIII who broke away from Rome to Create the Anglican Church to validate his personal requirements. 1534 is therefore the first time there could be a "City" anywhere.

  • @alicejade3657
    @alicejade3657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice to see my hometown Winchester on here and not surprising as it's full of history, especially with the Westgate and Hospital of St Cross :)

  • @jam-nc8ut
    @jam-nc8ut ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm British, and although I've been to a couple of these cities, I'd love to travel to them all (and many others). I can't drive anymore, for health reasons, and it is incredibly frustrating that the cost of travel within the UK is such a barrier. For the price of a train ticket and a one night stay in a hotel in, for example, Wells, from my home in the north west of England, I could go to Ibiza for a week. It would also involve less travelling time. I can't afford to do either, as it happens, but I'm sure you take my point.

    • @eoinj3929
      @eoinj3929 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      In Ireland we have free travel for anyone over 65. I regularly take a train to Cork or Galway for a day trip. Only costs me a lunch and I could avoid that if I bothered to make a packed lunch. All the best 👍

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The coach is a lot cheaper than the train, often less than a quarter of the price. Slower and not as comfy perhaps, but a workable option, especially if you go off-season.

    • @sirrathersplendid4825
      @sirrathersplendid4825 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eoinj3929- Do you have to be Irish or a resident to qualify?

    • @jam-nc8ut
      @jam-nc8ut ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eoinj3929 Sounds great. We have free bus travel for over 65's, but I'm 2 decades away from that, still paying full adult fares for everything. Happy travels!

    • @jam-nc8ut
      @jam-nc8ut ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sirrathersplendid4825 It's something to look into. I only get 20 days a year off work, so time is at a premium (as well as money!).

  • @PhilipBowker
    @PhilipBowker 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Surprised you haven’t included Ripon in North Yorkshire

    • @kirstymackenzie2437
      @kirstymackenzie2437 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Although it is small, yes it is a city because of its cathedral, but not really big enough to feature here such as York.

  • @EKsUrbanTracks
    @EKsUrbanTracks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was fascinating.

  • @chrishambleton6475
    @chrishambleton6475 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Where does Sheffield come in to this as I'm from Sheffield

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sheffield was granted city status in 1893 - same year as Leeds. This also explains why pretty much all the industrial cities of the north and midlands have a 'town' hall.

  • @yettimannettii2039
    @yettimannettii2039 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you heard of HallEnd or Corbin Hall in Warwickshire? Tring to find out if these were or are homes or villages or communities?

  • @tealeafuk
    @tealeafuk ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video enjoyed it. Been to many of them but all look beautiful. However i think you missed one because I know for fact this city is older then York.

  • @valentinelobo3707
    @valentinelobo3707 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Interesting though of course f very recent vintage when compared to the Indian cities of Harrapa and Lothal which existed in the Indus valley around 2600 to 2000 BEC.

  • @robertlowe1962
    @robertlowe1962 ปีที่แล้ว

    What happened to aston which had Aston Manor and also a church dating far more older as Aston was the original and central place in England

  • @christate590
    @christate590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just wondering why there is film of Newcastle upon Tyne at the beginning of the footage but doesn't make the list?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah well spotted! I ran a clip of Grey Street to coincide with where I mentioned that a lot of Victorian big towns were upgraded to cities, including Newcastle.

  • @johne1956
    @johne1956 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was born in Peterborough, which has a great cathedral, I went to school at the cathedral choir school there. I also lived for ten years in York which is a truly historic and spectacular city with possibly one the best cathedrals in the UK. I have lived in Winchester for the past 22 years. I have been blessed to call these places home.

    • @bilbo8338
      @bilbo8338 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Brilliant! I have a question for you - Which is a better city to settle down - York or Winchester?

    • @johne1956
      @johne1956 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bilbo8338 Hi, the simple answer is it depends. Both are great cities with history, surrounded by beautiful countryside. York is the bigger city so has more shops and restaurants. Winchester is in the South, nearer to London so it is more expensive to live there. Schools are good in both places. People are probably more friendly in the North ie. York. Either would be a great place to settle.

  • @jeniferallan6693
    @jeniferallan6693 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I am very proud that I studied at King Alfred's College and graduated at Winchester Cathedral 😊

  • @jasoncallow860
    @jasoncallow860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a very interesting video. Arguments about what the list should comprise are a bit daft given that record keeping is so poor before the Normans. It is likely that every settlement in Europe was occupied for unknown periods dating back to the neolithic; even nomads need to camp somewhere and good spots nears rivers were likely repeatedly used for millennia. I suspect during hunter gatherer periods tribes would have gathered at such places because they were familiar and had access to fresh water.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      Exactly! And that's why making a list of oldest TOWNS would be nigh on impossible as dozens of towns claim to be the oldest.

  • @cueballzero
    @cueballzero 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Puts Gobleki Tepe into perspective, which was founded well before the ice sheets covering most of the UK and Europe had retreated.

  • @TARZANswings
    @TARZANswings 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those older cities you mention ie the ones that pre exist England as a country are actually just settlements, so considering that fact there are plenty of ancient settlements all over britain that would qualify as cities, so is a city about being recognised pre country status, and what qualifies as a city, larger than a small town, a place of worship and a meeting place, i would say there are plenty of settlements like that all over ancient britain.

  • @capcompass9298
    @capcompass9298 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Time Immemorial (I read) was 1135 onwards after K Henry II gave the City of London a Mayor.

  • @weighttrainingguide
    @weighttrainingguide ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love UK history!

  • @adolforodolfo6929
    @adolforodolfo6929 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm always pleased and grateful to learn something - and I just have. Thank you.

  • @davidgrainger5378
    @davidgrainger5378 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Did I miss something? You started with Durham then listed York as no.1 in order from the north.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      Durham is effectively the honourable mention as it's the oldest diocese with a recorded year, i.e. 995. The rest predate the Saxon record keepings.

    • @Stoggler
      @Stoggler 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AlexinGreatBritainmisuse of Saxon, surely. There’s a reason we have the term Anglo-Saxon; Saxon has ambiguity, and is not relevant to large parts of England (if county/region name and Bede are to be taken too seriously). Saxon can refer to the Duchy of Saxony as well, a contemporaneous polity (which always makes me roll my eyes when I hear people talking anoint Saxons being at the Battle of Hastings!).
      Sorry, rant over.

  • @sorscha1308
    @sorscha1308 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm not going to argue that it's one of the oldest but i think Ripon NY would have a little argument with Wells over which is the smallest city. I've never been to Wells but it looks bigger than Ripon (which is basically a market square with a few side streets & a cathedral) to me.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, I'll have to do a video about the smallest cities at some point!

    • @steveselby6201
      @steveselby6201 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ripon was granted its city charter in 886 . I am not sure when it was first settled but I would certainly make an argument for it being one of the oldest.

    • @anthillmob7455
      @anthillmob7455 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@steveselby6201 according to Google, Ripon is the oldest city

  • @RyderSontaig
    @RyderSontaig 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this sort of stuff. I've gotta get over there one day.

  • @risvegliato
    @risvegliato ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for getting Bangor in the right place chronologically. Many people forget that it is the oldest cathedral after York.

    • @simonpitt8145
      @simonpitt8145 ปีที่แล้ว

      Canterbury I think is the oldest.

  • @Stoggler
    @Stoggler 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:54 the Æthelred you mention wasn’t a king (it’s not the later Æthelred the Unready) - the one mentioned was an Ealdorman.

  • @philipthomas2918
    @philipthomas2918 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Limited list which doesn't include many very early river crossing settlements that prospered and later became Roman settlements then cities? For example, Gloucester, Chester?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If we're talking about settlements, it'd go back to the Iron Age or maybe earlier. As far as cities go, Gloucester and Chester only received permanent city status after the Reformation.

  • @lesliehart
    @lesliehart ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was expecting Lincoln and St Davids

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Diocese of Lincoln was formed in 1072, and St Davids lost its city status in the 19th century. It regained it in the 1990s, but with this list we're looking at the longest unbroken city status.

    • @Simonsvids
      @Simonsvids ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AlexinGreatBritain Your video, your rules, but you said at the start of your video that if it had an Anglican cathedral, it had city status by ancient right. Therefore, even though in 1888 due to local government reorganisation it lost its city status, it could not lose its city status due to ancient right, since it still had an Anglican cathedral! Cant change the goalposts mate once you have defined them! St Davids has been regarded as a continuous city since the 6th century, despite what here today gone tomorrow governments say.

  • @WILLIAM1690WALES
    @WILLIAM1690WALES 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wondered why you did not include the city of Chester, but of course you are quite right, even though the Romans established it as one of their main bases in Britain. It didn’t actually have city status until 1541.

  • @jamesgriffiths5268
    @jamesgriffiths5268 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bangor is rightly included.However as a cathedral city,Bangor has the oldest cathedral in the British Isles founded in 525AD which therefore makes Bangor the oldest city in Britain.

    • @MartinMilnerUK
      @MartinMilnerUK ปีที่แล้ว

      It is a city I have not been to but now I really want to, and to St. David's in S. Wales

  • @jonathanscott7372
    @jonathanscott7372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought St. Albans was continuously occupied after the Romans, who called it Verulamium, because the Cathedral that was built over the supposed execution site of the first English martyr Alban became a pilgrimage site. Arguing the other way, there could be an objection, because Verulamium was in the valley of the river Ver, but St Albans on the hill overlooking Verulamium.

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      As a settlement it's as old as the hills, so to speak, but as a city it's cut and dry - Queen Victoria granted St Albans city status.

  • @IanLawrie-l9q
    @IanLawrie-l9q ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome 👍👏👌

  • @jogriffiths5766
    @jogriffiths5766 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about St David's Cathedral in Pembrokeshire?

  • @croceyzx2433
    @croceyzx2433 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you do a version for Towns?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว

      Not a bad idea, although if I did it would likely be a list of all the towns that claim to be THE oldest, with varying degrees of validity!

  • @martinmcdonald4207
    @martinmcdonald4207 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was an interesting journey back in time. I was sure both Bath and Norwich would have been in the oldest top ten charts, how wrong was i. ?

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Not far off on either. Both were cities in the Norman era, although Bath took a break after the bishop's seat moved to Wells.

  • @10thdoctor15
    @10thdoctor15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Surprised Lincoln isn't on the list, given it is around 2,000 years old.

  • @avagrego3195
    @avagrego3195 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you so very much, very interesting delightful

  • @peddersmeister
    @peddersmeister ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't know how easy it is to change chapter names, but the city of Lichfield, where I grew up didn't actually have a T in its name, that honour is bestowed upon a village in Hampshire😊

    • @AlexinGreatBritain
      @AlexinGreatBritain  ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh wow, thanks for the heads up! I didn't even put chapters on this video - it was the bloody AI that did that, and it can't even spell Lichfield!

    • @peddersmeister
      @peddersmeister ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AlexinGreatBritain haha 🤣 no worries having never put a video on TH-cam, when for an IT professional may sound odd! So I didn't know how chapters were added 😊
      Lichfield has a royal mail sorting office which was a short walk from my childhood home, and somewhere I have a picture of a sign that they put up spelling it with a T, the next time I went round they'd corrected it!

  • @lizscott6911
    @lizscott6911 ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this video. I realised there was 4 I hafn't been to. So those adventures lay ahead.