how 23savage misused GLYPH while diving fountain - an in depth investigation by Gorgc
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Conclusion: 23Savage's arrogance lost them the game
He has that attitude since before
No ember should buy boots of travel man should cut the wabe in the bottom
@@Enr620if he goes to cut the wave, they probably get aced by Liquid.
@@milenavidmar2733 wdym by aced? Je should cut the wave at the bottom so zai can't travel. Imagine brood has a travel than ember
Stop the beef HAHAA they're both liable
"Whether accidentally or on purpose, Radiant's structure has been fortified."
they should made unable to fortified if none of the towers being hit.
@@pttimothys how dumb can u be
Zai is the very definition of very well disciplined and sportsmanship player. He acknowledged that they lost even though they won. Very calm and not showing any cockiness even after winning.
million dollar lesson
Talon can still win this tournament you know?
@@xaxaxaxaaxin your dream
Not even in dreams
55555
@@xaxaxaxaax LMAO
+ RESPECT to Gorc for investigating like SHERLOCK.
Sherlock?.....hmmm.... Should have just watched the replay from Morphling's point of view. Are you suffering from dementia?
Some people have a habit that, when they think they are few seconds away from a win, they just click all the clickables (glyph, scan, bkb, ulti...) for fun. It could be the case here.
facts
SEA Taunt habits 😂
yeah SEA players always did that for sure. don't forget to chat to all as well "EZ GAME SOOOOOOO EEEEZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ"
Or he panicked when he heard the casters Zai was backdooring Talon.
@@woozy96 he used glyph long before zai began the rat dude lol
I felt second hand embarassment from his taunt and early celebration. Sad for talon 😢
there is even a different angle where we can see 23's early celebration smile fades away. then proceeds to acknowledge that he embarassed himself and took cover from jabz. painful to watch but thats what you get when you let emotions and glory get to your head.
this one is at Titaniadota, he stood up and flaps around early celebration and then realized theyre being throned by zai to which he stood back down and tried to tp even. mikoto's reaction to him right after is priceless
@@asnifuashifj91274 thx for actually giving information about the video hes refering to...
@@asnifuashifj91274it actually started slightly earlier than that, you can see him so eager to celebrate, so sure he was gonna win. He didnt fully stand but he got up from his seat for a mini celebration. Ait back down for a few sec before finally committing to the celebration by removing his headphones and all and do the whole celebration thing.
23 gonna be FyDespair for the rest of his life
he wasn't 'misused' he used it as a taunt to liquid. part of his celebration
That’s the main lesson for other players, every second, every movement, every button is important
23 will never use GLYP ever again 😂😂😂😂
This is the bad time to BM like that...
That glyph was probably a celebration, like fireworks to celebrate his victory (killing micke while hands up in the fountain)
23garbage did it again
The real reason why he was kicked from T1. His attitude. He was trying to mock Micke' ....and people are blaming Kuku , KARMA hahahaha
Pinoy fan are funny 😂
Nah kuku is still bad, dont say he isnt
No, we all agree kuku is bad
@@user-lu9vv3ff6v yes laugh like your 23dog is doing now
@@TruthbtoldMD lol laugh what ever you want your ph team is not
even made it to the playoff xd
23 got a big lesson, a very expensive lesson that he will remember for a lifetime. Hope he recovers from that. You're still the best carry sea player
With that childish attitude don't think he will go far, a player like Ana, miracle is well succeed because they respect their opponent and always be humble despite any mockery from enemy side
Celebrate too early to mock micke because has grudge on him since Lima major yet cost ur team chance to grab a 100% winnable game how can u be that dense 23?
@@pessiescobar4707 agree, what a childish player, never respect when about to win the game
he deserved it. I hope he gets penalty for taking off his headset (noise-cancelling)
23 will be a meme now because he pre-celebrated and thought they won
How do you sleep after this?? it's gonna haunt you for the rest of your life
worst than agis deny or gyro miss pick lol
its actually bad decision after bad decision, first that glyph, tp got cancelled(instead of going away on a safe tp spot), the morphling trying to zone the liquid supports instead of full agi hitting the throne while getting (oracle disarm, rubick lifted). there is 5 of them why not let the 2 talon supports zone the 2 liquid supports and let their 3 cores hit the ancient.
And Jabz... bb when the waves are already on their high ground. if he cleared the waves then tp they would've won it.
@@zichenguo4825 also their heroes are too close together that they were all interrupted by a single stolen avalanche. I really think that if they spread out and morphling+2 cores is free hitting their throne, while supports zoning liquid they would win base race. instead it is the morphling that is getting heavily interrupted in front of the liquid fountain by lift and disarm, I guess thats gonna happen when you are already standing up thinking u already won the game.
Cuz you can’t tell team mates to zone when you take off headset…
Also against rule. No one notices base until he took off headset and looked at screen then he looks at base then he tries to tp
Then his team tries to tP- prob after they notice him tp after getting info outside of game (the screen)
But yea feels bad mang- should’ve just kept comms and maybe could’ve told team to zone
@@BlendlogicTech even ember tp got interrupted by oracle root. both morph and ember tried to tp where they can be interrupted lol.
Ez to say in hindsight you know, they have so much adrenaline
I don’t think he misclicked, I think he just wanted to show off to opponent
a lifetime lesson for mister 23 right there
sorry to say this but he never learned.
Never Celebrate Too Early
23savage fighting for his life backstage after the match for sure
from 23savage to 23sadness
This is like those 1k destroying item in front of fountain throw. As a 1k player I finally feel so relatable to pro players
also he the one jumping mid game celebrating before realising what zai was doing lol
agent 23 has the job
I want to know what is dota plus win percentage?
finally able to see 'Dota karma' content in pro scene 🤣
and the priciest one also, or maybe TI2 with puck coil
OG EG ti8 is a thing lil bro
He accidentally press it when he's celebrating 😹
1.7 million on the line and he clicked on purpose.....damn
Arrogant got humbled moment.
Im not so sure if he misclicked it or just used it out of arrogance. I honestly think he 100% knew they'd win the game. I may be wrong. Million dollar lesson indeed.
EDIT: HE ACTUALLY CLICKED IT LMAO
Reddit say it’s cuz he wanted to secure dark seer but back tp - doubt it - think SEA fans - prob cheesing
@@BlendlogicTech there was like 3-4 creep at the top and all are in safe position. no way he want to secure the TP..
There is nothing to suggest he clicked it out of arrogance lol he was mashing buttons during a fountain dive, trying to secure kills. The enemy team were preoccupied with this, so there's little chance they would have realised he clicked it and so there's very little motive.
Clearly a miss click.
@@CHALLENGER_XNE dude watch the last scene carefully. you can't click that button with mouse accidentally like 23 did. that was just how pub players play in SEA server when they were so sure they will win. either use fortify or pause the game, then trashtalk like a complete toxic. oh don't forget the part where they will type in all chat "EZ GAME" even though the game probably 60 minutes+++++++++++++ while they have super bad score
@CHALLENGER_XNE Did you watch this video at all before commenting? Whether it was out of arrogance or not is a separate matter but it definitely does not appear to be a misclick in this video.
Bro was lost in the sauce...
Goddamn emotions in competition is insane, hard to stay calm i guess
Guess there will be another update on the International Archive
He was not focus he was jumping and celebrating😂
eternal envy long lost brother ~
Classic Talon throw in base
Thats actually gamethrowing
2023 best throw
some said he glyphed for jabz travel, but who knows, there might be none in dire that have the luxury to cancel creep tp when they are being dove in the fountain.
Well it was shown here that jabz dont need the glyph for travel the creeps is very much safe.
they don't even need jabz to travel. if jabz travel after clearing the wave on their high ground they also won. bad decision from jabz.
@@Xouuuu this is correct, there is no tower hitting the top radiant creeps
Well, bad decision after bad decision after bad decision
@@yogayuliandana8958 yep. Now they're getting penalties for 23 removing his noise cancellation headset while the game still on going.
23, He glyphed for the celebration (on his dream)
When 1.7 million turned into 800k
he clicked it to protect the seer TP
yes
nope. creeps just arrived on top so it means creeps has full hp. no need to use glyph to protect the creeps with full hp
That's worse than accidentally clicking it. As that will be a poor usage of glyph.
Dude was flexxin! he thought he won!
that's why he cried right after LOL Extreme Chokejob by 23
how do u know that someone used the glyph?
This is DotA, come back is real.
1. Remove every single risk potential then you can claim the throne safely.
2. Always respect your opponet!
5 people got trolled by rubick and oracle, what shame. If only... There is no if, lose is lose anyway 👍
Eternal envy ✖
Eternal sunshine ✔
does eternal nickname is doomed?
I'm fairly certain the click is him trying to waveform out of fountain
It's possible, but there's also a big chance that that move is SEA doto manifesting in him.
@@ordinaryperson8315 Does he normally click it, or does use a hot key?
No because he moved the cursor to rubick agian
@@luxaeterna4527 you can attack and cast spells during waveform; this means nothing.
I watch this game on SingSing stream it was funny, and as you can see he still has this in depth analysis in Dota 2
when his tp got canceled, dive to fountain, die then buys back. Would it make a difference? just wondering.
By the timing zai alrd hitting fountain, i guess doesnt make difference, too many mistake from talon side
**SHOT ON IPHONE** style video 1 000 000 $ click
would it have diff if they had glyph? tps was cancelled
He aint recovering from that...
Oh my fucking god
So zai not the one who saved liquid
SEA mentality at its peak form
Ladyboi god humbled so HARD lol
Thats ffffed up man
can someone tell me how to use that website whousedglyph?? ty
he wanted to BM but karma hits him too soon
Imagine be a 23 teammate
I think it was glyph because Jabz tp'd on a creep not sure
I think he glyphed to secure jabz's tp to dire side
This is common on sea pub and rank that why it hard to climb here.
Herald comment saying he did it for BM when he actually did it for Jabz to TP.
SEA Dota at its finest
ICANT MOMENT
Can someone give me the Match ID pleasere
humble yourself before it humbles you
The guy deserved it. Never ever underestimate your opponent when the game is not yet over. Dota 2 legends like Dendi and Miracle respect their opponents.
23cabage diving fountain used glyph for no reason and early celebration EPIC FAIL of the year 2023 doto
And that mistake cost them million dollar 😢
Poor 23cabbage did an early celebration only to cry like a baby at the end😂
add he taunted them
cry more pig noise 😂 3 major 0 point 🤣 only full pignoise can do 🤭🤭🤭
@@bigxmountainx6892 its 23savage who is crying base on the video I watch though
@@tonskreee6213 Crying but got $800000 in my pocket and still not eliminated, what about you? 😁
thaigay team 0 major tho
5922 is the new 322
for jabz tp
embarrassment to his family for not being a doctor. embarrassment to SEA. embarrassment to his team. and embarrassment to the number 23.
just my idea
would it be good if players need to vote for glyphs
So many mistakes in talon side
Jabz not clearing creep, he straight tp while creep is near t4 also doesnt make sense
23 also didnt wave to safer place before tp
Hope these guys learn hard from this match, they have potensial yet they make a mistake in crucial moment
damnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn It just rip my soul to see thisss....
Sixth player of team liquid ❤
Celebrated too early.
Definitely came from sea server.
he has bb, he should dive fountain full agi. and defend. probably win
Good job, you could've won that game if you were there instead ryt :)
@@ajmenor5441 prolly not but he is the pro here. He lost cause he wanted taunt micke and that distraction lead for multiple mistakes
@@rosvokomppania What's that got to do with the original comment tho, we know 23 looked like an idiot doing that-- but this orig comment's suggestion is just too arrogant to let pass.
Bro, they tried everything to win that, just not the right time to taunt them like that especially with the glyph throw
@@ajmenor5441 I see it more as option not arrogance but I see ur point.
That glyph was brutal but I think that waving was even more bad as that lead 2 huge mistakes for 23 as he got distracted. 1) he didn't waveform tp and he got canceled 0.3s
2) he totally wasted satanic just to get disarmed by oracle
Any one of theese would've probably win the game fot TLN.
Edit: also because of the waving, they actually might get penalty for this
imo jabz did a wrong move, he just bought back straight tp top, not looking bottom creeps.
anyways amazing game, Cant see this plays in international.
59 22 new meme is born😂😂😂
So when's the pizza party?
He just clicked it for the bm what an actual arrogant player XD got humbled quickly lmao
The ember should buy travel man its 3vs5 at the end he should cut the wave at the bottom
i dont think he misclicked it, he thought they already won, and his ego made him to do it like taunting lol. hahahaha
It's a BM glyph.
You can always learn from others lessons. Today I learned a million dollars lesson 😂
1 million dollar idyot move
Dota watafak moments soon...
23iq
no, he was taunting
that's not accident its BM
For dark seer to tp.Dark seer buyback.
23 mental
They lack experience and also arrogance.. Specially carry😅 taunting enemy while the game is not yet end.
its always 23