A good way to use song parts with ambient music is to lock 1 or 2 tracks so they continue playing as you change song parts. That'll give you the seamless transition to different themes you can build based on those locked tracks in the different parts. You can even fade those locked tracks out and in to mix it up
Yeah, nice. You have cracked into that syth-scape backdrop world. Looks like the Aeros is a natural tool for this. When you realize your song parts connection technique- you talked of- you'll be way ahead of the game. Thanks for sharing this.
Very impressive, Bill! Great demonstration and a gorgeous song creation. I've been taking. serious look at the Aeros - I'm an old dinosaur, so the technical aspects scare me a bit. Your demo helped created a good starting point for those of us who do take the plunge. Bravo and keep up the great work!
Brilliant! I've been twiddling around using a single loop pedal. This unit expands things so much !! Thank you for sharing and doing what you do so well.
Beautiful, Bill! It’s not about deserving. Give yourself permission to enjoy good things that come into your life. 🙂🎸💜 Beautiful music and a great demo!
I like what you're doing by making a series of videos on a pedal, like with this and the EHX Attack Decay: first impressions (pure music); an explainer, like this; and whatever else you feel is important to us. It gives us context and much more useful information. Thanks!
This is one of the best loopers I've seen. Easy to use & intuitive. However I think it's over priced at $700...$400 - $500 would be the sweet spot considering other things exist around the $700 or below range that can do more besides loop...Line 6 HX Stomp, Headrush MX5, etc.
Hey bill. Great video. I have had the Aeros for a while. I like the visual it gives of the track…but where I think it really shines is taking midi clock (in my case from beat buddy and being able to shift back and forth between song parts.
Hi Bill - I’d love to see how you get on with using song parts for your ambient music. I believe you should be able to freeze/spill over a track or several (?) to the next song part having for example drones you played in song part 1 - reappear in song part 2. Everything in Aeros is midi mappable so maybe it will even be possible to select/mark tracks on the fly you’d want to continue into next song part with a midi foot controller not having to bend down and use the touch display?
Thank you sir, great video and easy to follow. I just purchased the Aeros looper and your teaching was easy to follow and very helpful, and of course that song demo was really nice.
Maravilloso Bill !!!!! Acabo de recibir hace un par de semanas este hermoso pedal y ya veo el potencial que tiene,probablemente nunca llegue a usar todas sus prestaciones,pero se adapta perfecto al tipo de música que espero lograr. También he cometido muchos errores involuntarios al presionar los switch,pero siempre se pueden usar o borrar.,ejejejejje. La función ROP es ideal para captar las colas de los reverb sin cortarlas,me encanta este pedal. Te sigo y te seguiré hasta siempre mi querido amigo,no sólo de música se trata este canal,también he aprendido lecciones de vida contigo.
Great demo as ever Bill. I'm currently using the Boss RC10 for both ambient and conventional playing but recently upgraded to the RC600. Unfortunately the RC600 gives me a headache every time I use it. It's not that intuitive to program and I have made it harder by completely customising it so I have 6 loops starting and stopping from the main 6 pedals. I always get hung up on whether the track has the drums going, whether I am in free or quantised mode etc etc. Nothing guaranteed to ruin the atmosphere of an ambient performance more than unexpected drums coming in :) I've also found the RC600 occasionally has a brainstorm and does weird things. This looks like a great device and simple enough for my ageing brain to comprehend! I used to love endless options when I was younger but these days I just want things to work as simply as possible. I put this down to wisdom and not senility however :)
Great tutorial here Bill, thank you. One of the interesting things I think is the fact that you are not using the looper as an out n out foot pedal, something I do as well but having to make a blank loop to give me the static time to then play over and overdub. The Aeros seems to allow more flexibility especially in freeform.
Hi. I really love the aeros looper. I wanted to buy it but now I have the looperlative looper in my Mod Devices. It's a 2 track looper with 2 part for each track. Tracks can be synchronized or not and you can stack up to 3 synchronized looper so you can have a 6 tracks looper in the box. The most insane is that you can save your track in slots, up to 120 slot are available and recall your setup when you want. All that in the same box. Many month ago you tested the dwarf, but there are new good things. Thanks for you music, I love what you're doing.
Very inspirational video, thanks! I think the looper is great if we neglect the price. Very similar to a software equivalent called Melda MSuperLooper which can do 16 tracks (I think) but "only" 4 layers per track. I don't use layers at all with it and maybe half the tracks, usually 4-6. In a hardware world I do similar "thing" with Boss RC-500 and Jamman XT like this: I record 2 tracks to RC-500 then when I need more tracks I record those 2 to Jamman as a backing track, then I move to next empty memory slot on RC-500 for 2 new recordings and so on. Like a cave-man but it works :) Jamman serves just to temporarily listen while on RC loops are stored, unlimited separate loops which later makes making a song out of them easier. Even those loopers I got relatively recently are pricey IMHO but I told myself: hey, you only live once
I've been looking into loopers to go beyond the looping functions built into my L6 Helix, still not too sure about which way to go, but this Aeros is in the running. I want to be able to both "traditional" sync'd looping for "verse/chorus" stuff, as well as more free form sound on sound stuff, with maximum flexibility for both.
lovely vid. amazing sound. I dont see the reason why you placed the looper before the big sky tho. i thought there would've been a reason for that, but for this vid the big sky could've been perfectly placed before the looper right ? Also, in the settings you changed it from RPO to ROP and you didn't use the immediate overdub at all. for what you did in this vid, it would've been easier to leave it as RPO right? I'm new to these things so just trying to understand. love your channel and your vids! :)
I've already a Pigtronix looper, a Microcosm, and the Ocean Machine, plus the loopers in the Plethora. I really don't think I need this one. I mean it looks like it adds some convenience for recording, but I could probably just plug into the DAW and record each piece and let them play for a length of time and play them back, or let the DAW record each loop into its own track.
Thanks, this pedal has a smaller footprint than my DITTO X4, which I have wanted to replace for sometime now. I was looking at the boomerang, but the Aeros looks amazing.
UPDATE: Hello Bill. I got the unit to replace my DITTO X4 based on your comments here and its ability to decay loops for frippertronics. But, although I got it shipped with the latest firmware, the decay feature was not present and I find that it is neither mentioned in the manual provided nor the company website. May I ask how you got that feature into your unit please? Thanks in advance.
NEW UPDATE: I saw your posts in the SingularSound forum. Now I understand that the decay function is available in 4.3.x; but it has unfortunately been implemented incorrectly. I guess you will be returning your unit and I will have to do the same with mine. DITTO X4 to stay on my board for now. Too bad!
YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Well, I doubt anyone read these, but in case someone lands here, I should report that I have been in contact with SingularSound and got word from them confirming that this feature will be implemented in a way suitable for frippertronics, that is, with decay of layers during continuous overdub. So, we should perhaps hold on to our units a bit longer and wait to see what they come up with. My best. /C
It is possible to "lock" some tracks over the song parts to keep some kind of the basis over the whole song. But also to keep the song evolving by changing the other tracks. Great video as usual, btw :)
I use VCV Rack for looping, and it's completely free! Somehow I don't think playing guitar through modular synth software will ever be hugely popular though. Y'all want these shiny expensive pedals....
I'm not really into loopers, but this really seems cool and powerful in an intuitive way. Especially having an actual visual way to see and modify the loops, as the fact that one mistake basically destroys your loop is my most disliked aspect of loopers.
Thanks Bill for your demo and this discovery ! very interesting pedal. I am a Boomerang User. I think you had never use this one don't you? as a Dittox4 user? :) I have 4 stereo loops available and nice functions which allows me already most of what this pedal does (Decay during overdub, seperate volumes ; free or synced loops, serials, octave and reverse). I could really use this one, but seeing + and - i can still keep limiting with 4 loops there are already so much possibilities :) Sometimes hardware limitations are good. Also i am afraid to watch too much the screen while playing :D Best regards, Robert
Right now Im using a Ditto X4 but this thing looks to be FAR FAR SUPERIOR HAHA Are you still using it Bill? I can totally see the Aeros being an ambient workhorse! I love what Im seeing already👌
The differing loop sizes are what's attracting me. A lot like Eno's "Music for Airports" with differing tape sizes. I don't know of any other pedal that does this. Does anyone else?
Looks like it is similar to the original TC Ditto, which is a great little pedal. Given that the Legato is 25-30% cheaper on Amazon (compared to the Ditto), I would expect there to be some compromises. That being said, Amazon has free returns on the Lakato, so I recommend getting it and trying it out to see if the looper meets your needs. If it does not, you can send it back - no risk...
Do you think you can do a video showing us how to get ambient guitar on a shoe string budget? What is the minimum amount of pedals needed to achieve that ambient tone?
It’s just not a matter of deserving a piece of gear or not. Well I think that loopers in particular are like instruments themselves. One device fits to ones taste and way of playing it better than others. Some are voted to song based looping rather than loops transforming and textures layering. For example, I find the Aeros Loop studio a really cool great looper, but I think it’s not a device that fits for my use of live looping in my typical guitar performance.
~3ms of ad/da latency? but why, looper can be constructed using analog dry.. I love my Iridium OR UAFX Dream, i also love Riverside and zelzah, it is 3 pedals with ad/da latency.. so.. Idea is good, realization is not
3ms - you'll never hear or feel it. And there is a lot of computing going on here for 6 tracks in stereo. Love it and now v5 is here and silent switching it is ordered. I always liked the idea of this looper, but it had too many missing essentials until now. I wonder now what Bill is making of the software upgrade? I have virtually the same pedals but plus an mx5 instead of an Irridium...whoa, the possibilities :)
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I absolutely love videos like this where you sit down and hang out with your guitar/gear and hang out with us. Keep it up bill!
A good way to use song parts with ambient music is to lock 1 or 2 tracks so they continue playing as you change song parts. That'll give you the seamless transition to different themes you can build based on those locked tracks in the different parts. You can even fade those locked tracks out and in to mix it up
Thanks for the tip!!
Yeah, nice. You have cracked into that syth-scape backdrop world. Looks like the Aeros is a natural tool for this. When you realize your song parts connection technique- you talked of- you'll be way ahead of the game. Thanks for sharing this.
Very impressive, Bill! Great demonstration and a gorgeous song creation. I've been taking. serious look at the Aeros - I'm an old dinosaur, so the technical aspects scare me a bit. Your demo helped created a good starting point for those of us who do take the plunge. Bravo and keep up the great work!
Brilliant! I've been twiddling around using a single loop pedal. This unit expands things so much !! Thank you for sharing and doing what you do so well.
Beautiful, Bill! It’s not about deserving. Give yourself permission to enjoy good things that come into your life. 🙂🎸💜 Beautiful music and a great demo!
I like what you're doing by making a series of videos on a pedal, like with this and the EHX Attack Decay: first impressions (pure music); an explainer, like this; and whatever else you feel is important to us. It gives us context and much more useful information. Thanks!
This is one of the best loopers I've seen. Easy to use & intuitive. However I think it's over priced at $700...$400 - $500 would be the sweet spot considering other things exist around the $700 or below range that can do more besides loop...Line 6 HX Stomp, Headrush MX5, etc.
Fantastic job Bill, love this tutorial and your compositions!
Looks and sounds like it was specifically built for you Bill. Superb demo.
I love your guitar style it’s super unique and always entertaining
Hey bill. Great video. I have had the Aeros for a while. I like the visual it gives of the track…but where I think it really shines is taking midi clock (in my case from beat buddy and being able to shift back and forth between song parts.
Another incredible video. Thanks .
Hi Bill - I’d love to see how you get on with using song parts for your ambient music. I believe you should be able to freeze/spill over a track or several (?) to the next song part having for example drones you played in song part 1 - reappear in song part 2. Everything in Aeros is midi mappable so maybe it will even be possible to select/mark tracks on the fly you’d want to continue into next song part with a midi foot controller not having to bend down and use the touch display?
Thank you sir, great video and easy to follow. I just purchased the Aeros looper and your teaching was easy to follow and very helpful, and of course that song demo was really nice.
Very inspiring, great work.
Maravilloso Bill !!!!!
Acabo de recibir hace un par de semanas este hermoso pedal y ya veo el potencial que tiene,probablemente nunca llegue a usar todas sus prestaciones,pero se adapta perfecto al tipo de música que espero lograr. También he cometido muchos errores involuntarios al presionar los switch,pero siempre se pueden usar o borrar.,ejejejejje. La función ROP es ideal para captar las colas de los reverb sin cortarlas,me encanta este pedal. Te sigo y te seguiré hasta siempre mi querido amigo,no sólo de música se trata este canal,también he aprendido lecciones de vida contigo.
Great demo, cheers!
Great demo as ever Bill. I'm currently using the Boss RC10 for both ambient and conventional playing but recently upgraded to the RC600. Unfortunately the RC600 gives me a headache every time I use it. It's not that intuitive to program and I have made it harder by completely customising it so I have 6 loops starting and stopping from the main 6 pedals. I always get hung up on whether the track has the drums going, whether I am in free or quantised mode etc etc. Nothing guaranteed to ruin the atmosphere of an ambient performance more than unexpected drums coming in :) I've also found the RC600 occasionally has a brainstorm and does weird things. This looks like a great device and simple enough for my ageing brain to comprehend! I used to love endless options when I was younger but these days I just want things to work as simply as possible. I put this down to wisdom and not senility however :)
Love it
Great tutorial here Bill, thank you. One of the interesting things I think is the fact that you are not using the looper as an out n out foot pedal, something I do as well but having to make a blank loop to give me the static time to then play over and overdub. The Aeros seems to allow more flexibility especially in freeform.
Hi. I really love the aeros looper. I wanted to buy it but now I have the looperlative looper in my Mod Devices. It's a 2 track looper with 2 part for each track. Tracks can be synchronized or not and you can stack up to 3 synchronized looper so you can have a 6 tracks looper in the box. The most insane is that you can save your track in slots, up to 120 slot are available and recall your setup when you want. All that in the same box. Many month ago you tested the dwarf, but there are new good things. Thanks for you music, I love what you're doing.
Very inspirational video, thanks! I think the looper is great if we neglect the price. Very similar to a software equivalent called Melda MSuperLooper which can do 16 tracks (I think) but "only" 4 layers per track. I don't use layers at all with it and maybe half the tracks, usually 4-6. In a hardware world I do similar "thing" with Boss RC-500 and Jamman XT like this: I record 2 tracks to RC-500 then when I need more tracks I record those 2 to Jamman as a backing track, then I move to next empty memory slot on RC-500 for 2 new recordings and so on. Like a cave-man but it works :) Jamman serves just to temporarily listen while on RC loops are stored, unlimited separate loops which later makes making a song out of them easier. Even those loopers I got relatively recently are pricey IMHO but I told myself: hey, you only live once
I've been looking into loopers to go beyond the looping functions built into my L6 Helix, still not too sure about which way to go, but this Aeros is in the running. I want to be able to both "traditional" sync'd looping for "verse/chorus" stuff, as well as more free form sound on sound stuff, with maximum flexibility for both.
lovely vid. amazing sound. I dont see the reason why you placed the looper before the big sky tho. i thought there would've been a reason for that, but for this vid the big sky could've been perfectly placed before the looper right ? Also, in the settings you changed it from RPO to ROP and you didn't use the immediate overdub at all. for what you did in this vid, it would've been easier to leave it as RPO right? I'm new to these things so just trying to understand. love your channel and your vids! :)
ordered now as on v5 :)
I've already a Pigtronix looper, a Microcosm, and the Ocean Machine, plus the loopers in the Plethora. I really don't think I need this one. I mean it looks like it adds some convenience for recording, but I could probably just plug into the DAW and record each piece and let them play for a length of time and play them back, or let the DAW record each loop into its own track.
Thanks, this pedal has a smaller footprint than my DITTO X4, which I have wanted to replace for sometime now. I was looking at the boomerang, but the Aeros looks amazing.
UPDATE: Hello Bill. I got the unit to replace my DITTO X4 based on your comments here and its ability to decay loops for frippertronics. But, although I got it shipped with the latest firmware, the decay feature was not present and I find that it is neither mentioned in the manual provided nor the company website. May I ask how you got that feature into your unit please? Thanks in advance.
NEW UPDATE: I saw your posts in the SingularSound forum. Now I understand that the decay function is available in 4.3.x; but it has unfortunately been implemented incorrectly. I guess you will be returning your unit and I will have to do the same with mine. DITTO X4 to stay on my board for now. Too bad!
YET ANOTHER UPDATE: Well, I doubt anyone read these, but in case someone lands here, I should report that I have been in contact with SingularSound and got word from them confirming that this feature will be implemented in a way suitable for frippertronics, that is, with decay of layers during continuous overdub. So, we should perhaps hold on to our units a bit longer and wait to see what they come up with. My best. /C
@@cfibanez Any news on that?
It is possible to "lock" some tracks over the song parts to keep some kind of the basis over the whole song. But also to keep the song evolving by changing the other tracks.
Great video as usual, btw :)
yes, you can lock tracks that will continue over different parts
Yep! You can easily lock certain tracks on the Aeros so they will continue to play in different song parts.
It is more expensive than comparables once you add Beat Buddy (bad name) and Maestro. On the upside the 6x6 song mode is a lot of looping power....
Very nice demo video as always. When you play the lead of course you know the key so are you playing pentatonic scales? Thanks Bill.
More like a major scale, he played a major 3rd a couple times...
I use VCV Rack for looping, and it's completely free! Somehow I don't think playing guitar through modular synth software will ever be hugely popular though. Y'all want these shiny expensive pedals....
I'm not really into loopers, but this really seems cool and powerful in an intuitive way. Especially having an actual visual way to see and modify the loops, as the fact that one mistake basically destroys your loop is my most disliked aspect of loopers.
Thanks Bill for your demo and this discovery ! very interesting pedal. I am a Boomerang User. I think you had never use this one don't you? as a Dittox4 user? :)
I have 4 stereo loops available and nice functions which allows me already most of what this pedal does (Decay during overdub, seperate volumes ; free or synced loops, serials, octave and reverse).
I could really use this one, but seeing + and - i can still keep limiting with 4 loops there are already so much possibilities :) Sometimes hardware limitations are good. Also i am afraid to watch too much the screen while playing :D
Best regards, Robert
👍🏼
Right now Im using a Ditto X4 but this thing looks to be FAR FAR SUPERIOR HAHA Are you still using it Bill? I can totally see the Aeros being an ambient workhorse! I love what Im seeing already👌
Instead of ending everything all at once, does anyone know if individual tracks can be faded out?
Absolutely! You can set certain tracks to fade to mute or set to mute immediately.
The differing loop sizes are what's attracting me. A lot like Eno's "Music for Airports" with differing tape sizes. I don't know of any other pedal that does this. Does anyone else?
Pigtronix Infinity 3 Looper Pedal.
Have you tried the EHX Big Muff Ram's Head reissue? Supposedly it's the "Frippiest" muff.
Nope. That's a new one on me. Will check it out!
Bill could you take a look at the Lekato looping station It is inexpensive. I would like a professional opinion
Looks like it is similar to the original TC Ditto, which is a great little pedal. Given that the Legato is 25-30% cheaper on Amazon (compared to the Ditto), I would expect there to be some compromises. That being said, Amazon has free returns on the Lakato, so I recommend getting it and trying it out to see if the looper meets your needs. If it does not, you can send it back - no risk...
"On a clear day..."
Do you think you can do a video showing us how to get ambient guitar on a shoe string budget? What is the minimum amount of pedals needed to achieve that ambient tone?
Let me know if this one answers your questions: th-cam.com/video/sMuF4zJYx9w/w-d-xo.html
Yes! Excellent videos. Thanks Bill.
It’s just not a matter of deserving a piece of gear or not.
Well I think that loopers in particular are like instruments themselves. One device fits to ones taste and way of playing it better than others.
Some are voted to song based looping rather than loops transforming and textures layering.
For example, I find the Aeros Loop studio a really cool great looper, but I think it’s not a device that fits for my use of live looping in my typical guitar performance.
Cool man! Imagine what the Beatles could have done if they had this pedal board. Sgt. Pepper might have come out VERY different.
indeed!!!!
A day doesn't go by where I don't feel horrible that Frank Zappa didn't have all these toys to play with. :(
~3ms of ad/da latency? but why, looper can be constructed using analog dry.. I love my Iridium OR UAFX Dream, i also love Riverside and zelzah, it is 3 pedals with ad/da latency.. so.. Idea is good, realization is not
3ms - you'll never hear or feel it. And there is a lot of computing going on here for 6 tracks in stereo. Love it and now v5 is here and silent switching it is ordered. I always liked the idea of this looper, but it had too many missing essentials until now. I wonder now what Bill is making of the software upgrade? I have virtually the same pedals but plus an mx5 instead of an Irridium...whoa, the possibilities :)
To Bill:........... See my comment to you (below)
You, strange Man, except Your guitar effects, can You show us, Yours followers , how good You are in actual playing the MUSIC or You don't care.
Why?
The magic is the money they take from people- way over priced. It also does not create ambient anything. It loops. You still need an effects pedal.