What Our Fathers Did A Nazi Legacy -full movie

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  • @samuelinayat-chisti4176
    @samuelinayat-chisti4176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fabulous and fascinating work, this film - sharing and preserving it!

  • @glennhouben3385
    @glennhouben3385 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Leave the poor man alone.
    It isn't his job to take the responsibility from his father's past.
    He doesn't want to accept it so he can live!!
    If his mental capabilities aren't big enough to live with the guilt his father gave him he has the right to suppress it because he didn't commit the crimes, was to young to understand them and it wasn't his choice.
    He has every right to live a peacefull life like the rest of us.

    • @rosesprog1722
      @rosesprog1722 ปีที่แล้ว

      He doesn't want to accept it because, as a man for whom the very concept of justice is rooted in the age old tradition that to condemn someone of a crime, you need to prove it beyond the shadow of a doubt, the righteousness and necessity of which the promoters of the holocaust had to completely eliminate in order to set up an international court of law entirely composed of magistrates from the opposing side, a fact that would immediately disqualify anyone from legislating in any proper judicial system in use all over the world right now. The monstrous worldwide holocaust establishment requires every single human being on earth to 'believe', in opposition to 'deny' in unfounded claims, eyewitness testimonies and holocaust survivors (whose identity has never been clearly defined) all rooted in a thousands of years old very profitable system of victimhood on one hand, and an extremely arrogant core belief that a hypothetical deity chose them for some preferential assignment that allows them to completely disregard the social constructs of the societies they settle in, claiming equal rights for themselves while building racial based closed up communities, making fruitful exchanges and constructive collaborations practically impossible the blame of which is always laid elsewhere, victim prerogative.
      So yes, let's leave the man alone, at least until we can provide better than empty fields and an extradition request for crimes unproven that require a powerful sense of belief, but no attachement to reality.

    • @fahimaabdullah8084
      @fahimaabdullah8084 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You are a really super advocate🥰. I teach 2nd and 3rd graders. They are taught a real food for "thought & heart."
      What is the hardest tea to drink children?
      REALITY!!!

    • @rosesprog1722
      @rosesprog1722 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@fahimaabdullah8084 Do you really drink children? : )

    • @cozygoats550
      @cozygoats550 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He is old enough now to know better. We all have to struggle with accepting what our ancestors did. I Am Australian! It’s about acknowledging and taking responsibility for what happened. Not on behalf of his father but as a human being.

    • @rosesprog1722
      @rosesprog1722 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cozygoats550 But when there is no documented undeniable proof that the claims made about what your fathers did or did not do are true, what are you supposed to do? They claim that this field is full of remains of Jewish victims? Okay, let's get the shovels and dig, it may be slightly disrespectful to the dead but the need for justification takes precedence in such a case, otherwise, if you can't backup your claims, leave the man alone, he has no reason to believe anything anyone says. If undeniable direct proof is ever found, then he has work to do, but not now.

  • @george150799
    @george150799 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Someone on here left a comment 'Leave the poor man alone' His father didn't leave the innocent murdered alone, he has to accept his father's involvment in order to move on himself, I don't believe any of the victims descendents want an apology from him and it's not for him to apologize, just accept the glaring truth, as denying it insults the victims and their descendents, and the most telling point in this documentary is when he feels most happy meeting right wing nationalists, tells everything you need to know about Mr Wachter.

    • @Steelhorsecowboy
      @Steelhorsecowboy ปีที่แล้ว

      No, he doesn't have to accept what we all believe. He is entitled to his own life and memories, regardless of how delusional. Bullying this old man is sad.
      His father was guilty. In my own life I have made choices and taken sharp turns in my career to my financial detriment to avoid doing things that violate my values and ethics. In some ways we all have to comply with governmental rules to survive but those who seek authority and privilege in a unethical system are guilty of its abuses.

    • @george150799
      @george150799 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Steelhorsecowboy Absolutely have no idea what point your trying to make re the 2nd paragraph 🤔

  • @R4420o
    @R4420o ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Horst loves his father. We must understand this fact.

  • @abiii1237
    @abiii1237 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wish we had subtitles for what the Ukrainians were saying at the ceremony, only catch a glimpse from the translator.

  • @francescabicknell4803
    @francescabicknell4803 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    These children... now adults are victims as well. I can understand for a 6 yr old the end of the war and would be traumatising but does not excuse what their fathers did. I am a Jew and have complete empathy for these men who are not responsible for the crimes of their parents as no one is.

  • @zuzuspetals9281
    @zuzuspetals9281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    If you listen closely to Watcher, he says he uses the words “guilt, shame”; says “life was of no value”; says he doesn’t want to “get stuck here full of shame, full of...”; his physical body language shows discomfort because what he’s saying out loud doesn’t agree with what he knows in his soul; and he can’t understand how a father (and mother) that were so loving to him could have participated in events so horrific and inhumane. Although he doesn’t say it directly he alludes to the fact that even if his father had objected to what was happening and his orders and duty to the Reich his father would have been executed and possibly his mother and the rest of the family. These are all difficult concepts to wrap his mind around as he so badly wants his parents to have been noble and good in everything they did just as he viewed them as a small child. It’s a sad way to live.

    • @vaporosoez
      @vaporosoez 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He profoundly impacted me.

    • @svob1965
      @svob1965 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No Nazis were ever executed for refusing to carry out orders re slaughter of Jews and others - in fact many were given the option not to participate as outlined in Ordinary Men by Christopher Browning - no doubt Wachter would have been demoted but clearly didnt make a moral choice - his son needs to be objective and intellectually honest by reading the materials that truly inculpate his father

    • @philipnestor5034
      @philipnestor5034 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@svob1965very well said. The Germans and Austrians who e tbut took part in the murders were more afraid of their follow killers calling them weak, or sissy. Read the book The Good old Days, interviews with these surviving killers mention that. Himmler passed a order that could get them reassigned to another post but none did. People who say they would’ve gotten killed don’t know the truth and these Germans and Austrians who says this say it to justify what their parents did. The people thought they were doing this to improve Germany and so did their collaborators.

  • @andygibson6856
    @andygibson6856 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Philippe’s journey horrific but clear and one of discovery. Niklas got there quickly, helped by having a bad relationship with his father. Otto loved his mother dearly and she was an exceptional woman, she idolized his father. The journey is much more challenging for him, hopefully he got there eventually.

    • @lizvlx
      @lizvlx ปีที่แล้ว

      she was a criminal herself. she was a horrible person. nothing exceptional about her. she was no passive woman, she was an active nazi and committed her own crimes.

  • @hoosierdaddy2308
    @hoosierdaddy2308 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I actually feel sorry for both of the son's, but the one guy who won't admit his father was involved is just delusional. Of course, it's hard to see your father as a monster when he was loving to you.. I actually feel sorry for him. THe son's are guilty of the fathers sins, but they should recognize that fathers can be monsters even if they are not.

  • @susannebuchholz785
    @susannebuchholz785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thank you very much for uploading this interesting documentary!!

  • @russellkeates962
    @russellkeates962 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    TO UNDERSTAND THIS IN DEPTH YOU SHOULD START FROM 1860 UPTO THE PRESENT, IT HAS TAKEN ME 25 YEARS AND I HAVEN'T FINISHED. IT TAKES A CRITICAL MIND WITHOUT BEING RIGHT .

  • @moniquedelaney7958
    @moniquedelaney7958 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Excellent documentaire . Merci

  • @ashberrychapman7117
    @ashberrychapman7117 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    This movie is strangely prescient, as is Philippe Sands' brilliant book East West Street, on which this film is based. The 'coincidences' of the book, then and to modern times, are more astonishing and inexplicable perhaps than Philippe Sands appreciates. Sands is a genuinely brilliant lawyer and author, but I wonder if he understands life and death as profoundly as his family members and ancestors did, and the other central transformational characters who lived and suffered and died and grieved directly in and after the Nazi Holocaust.
    Prescient also, because of the the tendency remaining and persisting into current times for politics and big business (ultimately the biggest banking families) to design and exploit austerity and misery and ignorance, so that tyrannical narcissists and cowardly psychopaths rise to power, via fear, lies, distortion of law and language, corruption, censorship, propaganda, and blaming minorities for the economic challenges faced by the masses.
    I wonder whose children will look back with similar horror (or denial) as to their parents' conduct in the years since the Nazi Holocaust, especially since the 1970s, ratcheting more in the 2000s: the malfeasance, reckless negligence and incompetence, 'following orders', crimes against humanity, genocide and democide, and likely necessarily new terminology and definitions. Alan Chapman, health coach and educationalist, LiveWildLiveFree.org etc.

  • @elizabethfreeman1373
    @elizabethfreeman1373 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Horst's father was an important cog in the Nazi machine of the final solution. Horst isn't responsible for his fathers complicity but his father had to be complicit. How many of the Jews and Ukrainian's who were killed would say what Horst says about his father.

  • @callmec0c0
    @callmec0c0 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “I like you personally, but I don’t like your brains and I don’t like the thoughts in your brains”.
    If we were all this brutally honest, (if his generals had said that to AH himself!!!) maybe things like this wouldn’t get out of hand…

  • @Steelhorsecowboy
    @Steelhorsecowboy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can't drag the father out of the grave and punish him by bullying his son.
    The innocent son is entitled to his delusions and happy memories.
    Forget the revenge tour and live a life that your murdered family would be proud of. Build things that help humanity in their honor.

    • @russellbarlow1796
      @russellbarlow1796 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not about revenge it's about bringing him out of denial and delusional ideology. Letting him stew in his own polluted thinking isnt gonna help him any you missed the point entirely

  • @fahimaabdullah8084
    @fahimaabdullah8084 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    His brain is filled up in denial. 😮

  • @Hazy808
    @Hazy808 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Horsts voice? They sound like they're on helium, it's definitely been sped up

  • @christinebowen4524
    @christinebowen4524 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    picture is filled with white dots?

    • @gingerfarr3689
      @gingerfarr3689 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought I was the only one who saw them! Phew! Thank you!

  • @Andrew-dg8se
    @Andrew-dg8se หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have more respect for the son of Frank than I do for the other guy. He doesn't sugar coat his association. Germans like Horst rub me the wrong way.its as if they disassociate from the truth of the matter.im German American.My Grandfather was an Army Surgeon for the US Army in the Pacific.i have a right to judge my fellow Germans.I have nothing but contempt for the ppl like Horst son.crazy how they met up with Ukrainian Nazis at the End.it looked like horst was so honored

  • @PhotoDetectorist
    @PhotoDetectorist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please remove the film - its been uploaded against copyright!

  • @lulumilla1
    @lulumilla1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great tragedy followed by another in Palestine hope he can make a documentary about those families brutality murder and removed from their homes

    • @faresrizk7725
      @faresrizk7725 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no comparison between the most far reaching transnational extermination that was the holocaust and a conventional war in which only 30000 people have been killed since 1948, any attempt to compare the two is morally evil and manipulative deception.

  • @cinthiaangulo6600
    @cinthiaangulo6600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Please... subtitles or spanish

  • @meliteletemp9137
    @meliteletemp9137 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    57:15 confrontation in Ukraine on Waffen SS soldiers reburial..

  • @susannebuchholz785
    @susannebuchholz785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    48:06 The people died, they will never come back,Mr.von Wächter does not see the reality!

    • @zuzuspetals9281
      @zuzuspetals9281 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Susanne Buchholz He doesn’t have the emotional capacity to condemn his father because he still wants to have a loving family and father who is proud of him. He has deluded himself into believing his father was different and better than the other Nazis despite the evidence. It’s the only way he can carry on mentally and emotionally without having so much personal guilt about what his parents did. He’s unable to separate his father’s and mother’s horrific acts from his own personal responsibility despite the evidence. Imagine being a young child who loves his dad and is treated so well by a loving family then growing up and being confronted with a totally different reality - he is totally unable to deal with being “full of shame” about what happened. He knows what his father did was totally wrong but is unable to condemn him out loud because he believes he then has to take on the guilt and responsibility of what happened even though we know that as a child he had no capacity to stop what happened to any of those who were murdered.

  • @oriza2
    @oriza2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    half of the screen is missing....

  • @abbeyhill7706
    @abbeyhill7706 ปีที่แล้ว

    Where can I watch this documentary?

    • @marccru
      @marccru ปีที่แล้ว

      It doesn't exist. Just Jihad nonsense.

  • @TheTerryE
    @TheTerryE ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why does it have this overlay of haze that makes it so hard to watch????

  • @TomWakeman-ul7om
    @TomWakeman-ul7om 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How would a 5 year old really know anything?

  • @AwesomeAngryBiker
    @AwesomeAngryBiker ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ffs uploader, why not just upload it as an mp3. There's a point where when u upload something to avoid a copyright its pointless because it's unwatchable. You're after uploading something for people to watch yet its literally impossible to watch anything more than a few pixels changing colour

  • @bbnCRLB
    @bbnCRLB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    If only they did something like this for the black Americans. They went through a lot under the white Americans in the past.

    • @jamesaffleck5533
      @jamesaffleck5533 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      White America owes nothing to blacks

    • @shaunlef00ck64
      @shaunlef00ck64 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Correct me If Im wrong but the Jews did go through a bit more

    • @Tefera-hf8fw
      @Tefera-hf8fw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James Affleck blacks built America with their blood for you to enjoy it today . You are stupid

    • @palomaalhambra2453
      @palomaalhambra2453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jamesaffleck5533 You need to do some studying you poor sap, the whole of America was built on the backs of the black people. You're ignorant.

    • @palomaalhambra2453
      @palomaalhambra2453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@shaunlef00ck64 Its not a contest ffs. You seem to be forgetting 300 years of slavery and continuous racism since abolition.

  • @TimThompson19791979
    @TimThompson19791979 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Funny. Now the U.S. is giving them guns.

    • @patricknorton5788
      @patricknorton5788 ปีที่แล้ว

      Are you rooting for the Russians in Ukraine? Is that what you mean? The US has been "giving them" (the Germans guns for decades. But right now it's the Russians that have a much worse problem with far-right ideology than Germany does (and possibly the US does).

    • @TimThompson19791979
      @TimThompson19791979 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@patricknorton5788 I'm rooting for peace. The Russian people love there kids too.

    • @patricknorton5788
      @patricknorton5788 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @TimThompson19791979 apparently no so much, though.

    • @geraldtschura2051
      @geraldtschura2051 ปีที่แล้ว

      Giving who guns? These people are dead. The U.S. isn't giving them guns. They are, however, giving guns to people defending their families from barbaric attacks on civilian populations by an invading army. It's too bad you don't understand that. Probably never will.

    • @pepegaplays4023
      @pepegaplays4023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Imagine saying something this fucking stupid

  • @angiekoenig5656
    @angiekoenig5656 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video of bad quality. Pity I would have enjoyed watching it

  • @angeladay7544
    @angeladay7544 ปีที่แล้ว

    A very interesting peice of information,...also very disheartening & very sad, as much as all wartime of Jewish people were in hitlers hatred & madness over the Jewish people all thru WW2,...
    As seeing the name "Frank,"...I immediately, connected to "Anne Frank,"..."The Hiding Place,"....😮😢❤.

    • @angeladay7544
      @angeladay7544 ปีที่แล้ว

      I, loved reading all the comments of this movie, I do agree with you all, too, 😮😢❤.

  • @curlywurly4770
    @curlywurly4770 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is complex. Where Niklas Frank's father was a beast, I felt some sympathy for Horst watching this. Many Nazis personally did worse than his father Otto Wachter and only got a few years in prison and managed to live a full life. Two thirds of SS concentration camp guards slipped back into society after the war. There is evidence to say Otto Wachter was more interested in building alliances between different peoples (Ukrainians and Russians) as soon as he got his first real command in Ukraine. Evidence says high command liked him because of these skills, but also because Himmler found he could play Otto against his rival Bormann. Other than Otto's signature, Sands provides no evidence he was a rabid foaming at the mouth Nazi. There is evidence Otto personally steered clear of Niklas Frank. Horst is right that there's no incriminating speech or direct order; the atrocities in Krakow were carried out at a lower level and that the general order came from above Otto. Sands is right that Otto bears political responsibility because his signature is in the chain of command. I believe the answer lies in watching Horst's behaviour throughout the documentary: he's incredibly awkward, fidgety, stubborn and naive. We could say his father was the same. Horst is incredibly naive to think his father didn't have the power to have done much more to acquit himself of the holocaust. Horst believes his father must have been a 'good Nazi'. But Otto was far from an Oskar Schindler. Otto was in charge of the trains and had the power to divert or do something to save thousands of victims if he really wanted to. But he didn't act. Why didn't he? Was it because he was a rabid Nazi or a coward? Horst appears to be a good man convinced his father was a good man too - and he may even be right - but in the end it doesn't matter. The truth is his father was in a position of power and failed to acquit himself. He was at best a weak man and coward who lacked the courage to act and then tried to flee to South America; at worst a quiet Nazi and supporter of the holocaust. It's important to add that Horst also comes across as socially autistic, avoiding eye contact etc and perhaps his father was too. Otto left Horst with a terrible legacy and a lifetime burden of guilt. Yet Horst forgives his father because he IS his father. To condemn him would be condemning himself. The elderly Horst pacing backwards and forwards fiddling with blades of grass and torturing himself next to the graves of 3,500 people says everything.

    • @russellbarlow1796
      @russellbarlow1796 ปีที่แล้ว

      He clapped when the announcement was made that 100,000 jews would be murdered and hid out in Rome and changed his name as he was gathering info on how to get to south America. The other nazis did worse argument doesn't work here he was part of systematic state sanctioned murder period and he is in denial because he feels he is responsible. It's called the things our fathers did we are each responsible for our own conduct its foolish to deny as the evidence is piled in front of him

    • @jfournerat1274
      @jfournerat1274 ปีที่แล้ว

      Horsts dad was directly responsible for the deaths of between 600.000 to 900.000 innocent people as the governor of Galicia with the vast majority of them at between 600.000 and 800.000 being Jewish and another 100.000 being Polish. The famous Nazi hunter and Holocaust survivor Simon Wiesenthal later said that Otto was there when his mother was being deported to the Belzec death camp. This would make Wachter one of the most deadly Nazi war criminals other than Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Reinhard Hyederich, Adolf Eichmann, Hermann Goering, Rudolph Hoss, Henrich Muller, Martin Bormann, Josef Buller, Odlio Gobolinick, Theodore Eicke, Hans Frank, Christian Wirth, and Franz Stangal.

  • @edwardspence-fo8vt
    @edwardspence-fo8vt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Regarding my comments Google be more specific please

  • @playinragz8183
    @playinragz8183 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the jab and that lie? All the people hurt and dead that Crime against humanity is ok because money rules evil. All the people complicit will answer to God.