10/10 bro what r u talking about the jumpscares, concept, everything was amazing it was like FIRE!! the only thing that backlashed is actors and actresses choice
This movie is so underrated!! Despite of having a descent storyline, it was average at box office and don't know why it has less ratings on IMDb. It deserves atleast 6/10. Who else agree?
It should be 9/10 because it is the best horror movie I have ever seen in Bollywood.Amazing concept,which gives you goosebumps in every scenes,and the movie won't bore you.
Very true If you believe there is god there is devil too in this world हमारे मानने या ना मानने से हकीकत नहीं बदल जाएगी हमें हकीकत पर भी यकीन करना पड़ेगा
Pure horror concept,,nice story,,,,,,no big star but these actors played very well,,,,award winning movie of Bollywood,,,everyone should appreciate it...❤❤❤
No drama no bulsshit no love no kiss just pure horror from beginning to end background music is just top notch arguably top 10 ever step foot in Bollywood
Felt really bad for sonia. She and neena were the only sensible one for not entering into this place. Guys please don't enter into such places for the sake of fun. It could be dangerous for your life. Though it is just a movie but movies are taken from real life incidents only. 😢
In 2014, I watched this movie with my cousin.. we were so thrilled and excited... What were those days!!🥺❤️❤️ Still she tells me about that how we enjoyed the film that time.
Best Horror Movie ever made in Bollywood along with 1920.. No hero heroine concept, no vulgar scene, no revengeful story.. pure horror movie with a very good and convincing background story inspired by witchcraft and Saturn... amazing presentation. I don't know why Bollywood does not recognize this movie... this is an A listed horror movie in Bollywood ...
Now that’s really scary, just love it. It’s a one of the best underrated Bollywood horror movie & underrated actors actresses too . A must watch if your horror movie fan ❤❤❤
You are absolutely right, I agree with you, this movie is not only for entertainment purpose, it's also a message to youth who discover cringe things daily to show off and sometimes met unnatural things which is far beyond our imagination
@@HYpERxPS Just because you didn't find anything it doesn't mean ghost do not exist... If there is good then there is evil, if there is god then there is ghost.. I can say this cause me and my family faced this ghost thing
This is the first ghost movie in which the ghost has not been shown properly. And finished the whole movie in just one dress.Also without music, songs. Really very nice and fantastic movie. ❤
I love this films ita an amazing concept no herions and heros no sexual scences no other concept you cn see it with your family too ..... bollywood always gives remarks to heros nd heroines films but this is real hero heroine what a wonderful acting of all guys and the last lady was awesome 😊
Kya moovie hai yaarr...best in bollywood...background music ki tho jitni bhi taarif karo kam hii hai..sab log dekho ye moovie...meri taraf se ten out of ten...
I really didn't understand why the film got flopped! Its a very good movie. Unknown faces tha isliye kya? Bipasha Basu, Dino morea, Emraan Hashmi, Kangana Ranaut jaisi known faces nehi the isliye flop hua? These 7 new people in the film really acted very well...! Each and everyone acted and executed well!
In the first few minutes when the girl saw her own reflection, it probably indicated that she will be the sole survivor at the end, cause' others couldn't see themselves but the girl could.
Ise darawni movie aj tk maine nhi dekhi mujhe horror movies bohot pasand h and ek ye hi movie h jise dekhkr aj bhi mujhe dar lagta h ek ek scene dawravna h iska best horror movie❤
Who are watching this movie things that neel would be only one who survive Ps- really bad for his death he is the one who motivates everyone should survive
Maine abhi Sony Max pe dekhi film raat 12 45 pe wo bhi akele apne room Mai sala film toh 1 bje khtum hogyi but ab sala neend ni aarhi socha TH-cam pe dekhta hu ke ye movie upload hai toh upload thi so ab Ispe comment krdiya 😁
तारीख 18 अगस्त 2023 आज मैं 15 दिन रोज साउथ की एक से दो मूवी रोज देखता हूं वह भी भूत बाली अकेला कसम से झूठ नहीं कहता हूं लेकिन मुझे कभी भी ना रात में डर लगता और ना ही दिन में क्योंकि मैं पुजारी हूं माता पिता का इसीलिए डर नहीं लगता जीते जागते भगवान है❤❤ मेरे पास जय माता पिता की और उसे ईश्वर की जय जो हमारे माता पिता को खुश रखता है और उन्हें देता और माता पिता मुझे शक्ति देते खुश रहने के लिए और डर का सामना करने के लिए❤❤❤❤
Mai to karan kundra ko dekhkr aayi hu movie dekhne 1st baar bina search ke mil gyi movie aur mujhe na horror movies itni psnd h kya btau aur dr to 1% bhi nhi lgta 😂😂
In this situation there is only one who can save you . The one supreme power who can defeat 100 Lucifers in a single punch . Ashta siddhi navnidhi ka master . The avatar of Rudra🕉️ One and only Bajarangbali 🚩🙏 Bhoot pishach nikat nahin Ave mahaveer jab naam sunaba . Jai shree Ram 🚩🕉️🕉️
Maine pehli bar ye movie dekhi thi mere brother ke dost ke birthday par uske ghar mein tab main bohot choti thi 13 ya 14 years old tab se aaj tak kuch kuch scene hai iss movie ki jo main apni ankhe band Karti hoon toh mujhe dikhai deti hai mujhe horror movie story bohot acche lagte hai sirf ye movie hai jissse dekh kar main dar gyi thi iske baad or pehle maine bohot sari movie dekhi lekin ye wala or ye bhoot ki wo mental hospital mei behtke hasna oh my god main bohot dar gyi thi iske baaad maine ye movie bohot bar dekh dekh ke dar ko Maar diya
School times back to then I guess 2012 or 2014 when this movies was played in television sitting with family caousin brothers and sisters oh my ghosh it was epic moments when break was show and have to go washroom with afraid and again when movie continues after break oh damn 🎉🎉
abhi yaha se tum gujri thi isliye abhi yahan se main gujar raha hoon or agar ham abhi yahan se nai gujarenge na ,to main hamesha ke liye yahan se gujar jaunga 😂 this line amazing 😅
Ek baar ek episode dekha tha koi hai aur aahat ka sayed...movie theater, a horrific ghost, curious people... was really scary... lekin ye movie is one of the best horror movie I have ever seen.
Man i watch many horror movies.....inhave seen almost every horror movie in netflix prime u tube and what notbut i xpected nothing from here but i was surprised...mujhhe goosebumps aa gy... seriously the movie gets better with time
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@@ExclusiveNighties4
Me
i don't know why it flopped. it's inarguably one of the best horror movies in Bollywood
Khesdiii
True bro
Exactly so
Not at all
Go and watch
Raaz and Haunted 3d movie you will then no what's horror movie 🎉🎉
@abutarik3584😂kuch bhi
Anyone in 2024 ✌🏻 comparing today's horror movie it is the best horror movie and it deserve more than 6/10 it still give goosebumps
10/10 bro what r u talking about the jumpscares, concept, everything was amazing it was like FIRE!! the only thing that backlashed is actors and actresses choice
Me too it’s vry scary 😟 😂
😮
Yes😢
@@RMAspirant it's not scary but it's amazing 😃
This movie is so underrated!! Despite of having a descent storyline, it was average at box office and don't know why it has less ratings on IMDb.
It deserves atleast 6/10. Who else agree?
6/10? Nah bro it's arguably the best horror movie in Bollywood
9/10
It should be 9/10 because it is the best horror movie I have ever seen in Bollywood.Amazing concept,which gives you goosebumps in every scenes,and the movie won't bore you.
I'll give 7.7 out of 10
Jis din dhikaga us din manne ke liye zinda nahi bachoge
Best line
देखते है go
😢😢
Right
Very true
If you believe there is god there is devil too in this world
हमारे मानने या ना मानने से हकीकत नहीं बदल जाएगी हमें हकीकत पर भी यकीन करना पड़ेगा
Dekha h aur daudaya bhi h bhai 😂😂😂😂😂
Pure horror concept,,nice story,,,,,,no big star but these actors played very well,,,,award winning movie of Bollywood,,,everyone should appreciate it...❤❤❤
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍. Bollywood super hit horror movies 2024
No drama no bulsshit no love no kiss just pure horror from beginning to end background music is just top notch arguably top 10 ever step foot in Bollywood
For me, i can give:
Plot: 3
Theme: 5
Originaliti: 3
Total: 11/15
It was fine concept one of the best horror movie in Bollywood i came Here to watch it again anyone in 2023 😅
Me alzo
Me
Me too
Yes you are right.
all Bollywood horror movies concept art sem that's why I can't like it 😒. But this movie is too good.... like concept and story 😮
Me also
Felt really bad for sonia. She and neena were the only sensible one for not entering into this place. Guys please don't enter into such places for the sake of fun. It could be dangerous for your life.
Though it is just a movie but movies are taken from real life incidents only. 😢
In 2014, I watched this movie with my cousin.. we were so thrilled and excited... What were those days!!🥺❤️❤️ Still she tells me about that how we enjoyed the film that time.
Same ❤❤❤
Bhai akdum Mera bhi Aisa hi hua tha।main Aaj usi se puchhke dekhne aya hun।naam bhul Gaya tha movie ka ,bhagya se Mera didi ko smaran tha।
Are yr itni jada darwani nhi hai
Same here but now I am watching alone because we are not together 😭😞
Yes Same here ❤️😔 missing old days childhood days were much better .
I wanted both Meena and Neel to survive in the end, it could have been a nice ending..
Nina not meena
ya me too
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Haaan love story banaa 😂😂😂
Best Horror Movie ever made in Bollywood along with 1920.. No hero heroine concept, no vulgar scene, no revengeful story.. pure horror movie with a very good and convincing background story inspired by witchcraft and Saturn... amazing presentation. I don't know why Bollywood does not recognize this movie... this is an A listed horror movie in Bollywood ...
Yes bro
Horror Story 2013 is very under rated ! Really good story and movie 👍
Can you please explain what is inspiration of Satan?
@@strawberry-gf2ob the Ghost worshipped Saturn when she was alive...
right bro
I Love the last girl who survived she was really brave..
3 bar ye movie dekhrahs hu, nice a story, jitni bar dekhta hu otni hi bar dar lagta hai, love from Bangladesh
Ham dusri bar dekhrahehe😂
Mai 6 bar dekh chuka hoon 😂
..
1st time from India 🇮🇳🇮🇳
putter pher na dekha kar 😂😂😅😅😅
Now that’s really scary, just love it. It’s a one of the best underrated Bollywood horror movie & underrated actors actresses too . A must watch if your horror movie fan ❤❤❤
Don't challenge and don't try enter haunted place .specially youth ..believe spirit and pray god
Bhai ye sirf film hai maine or mere 4 dosto ne real me try Kiya tha kuch nahi hua😂😂😂😂😂
Bhai aisi jagahon par jaana apni maut ko bulaane ke baraabar hain gaurav tiwari kyon maara gya agar aisa kuch nahi hota to @@HYpERxPS
Ye sirf andhvishwas h aur kuch nahi 😅😅
You are absolutely right, I agree with you, this movie is not only for entertainment purpose, it's also a message to youth who discover cringe things daily to show off and sometimes met unnatural things which is far beyond our imagination
@@HYpERxPS Just because you didn't find anything it doesn't mean ghost do not exist... If there is good then there is evil, if there is god then there is ghost.. I can say this cause me and my family faced this ghost thing
Maine yeh film boht pehle shyd 2014 2015 me Dekhi this mujhe yaad aaya to fir se dekhne aaya 2024 me
भूत पिसाच निकट नही आवे,
महावीर जब नाम सुनावे
🥺
😍😍
Jay Sri Ram ❤
Nase roge hre sub pirdh japat nirnter hnumat bira
Mat sonao bhut ka mja lo
Mujhe iss movie ka back ground sound bahut achi lagi yaar.....I Love It ...😊
Most underrated horror movie 😢
Yes this movie is good and everyone must watch movie !
Yes bro
Yes 😰
You are lying this Is a very haunted movie
@@SaadAli-bu3lf😂very?
No blood ..no comedy ..kewal khofff❤❤
Real legends are watching this in November 2023
🎉🎉
Me
Ya, me also
Ab tu hai judge ki real legend kaun hai? Tujhe kisne charge mai dala chu?
😱I am shocked 🤯 i really watch 27 November how u know ,,,what a queensiden
Really one of the best horror movies ❤❤
❤
Movie name
a true gem!!! watched after 10 years but the feels are no different!!!
Its a decent movie with a neat script.....good watch.....all the cast is beautiful
🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🙏🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉🕉
Kon Kon 2024 Me Dekh Raha Ha 😊
Mai 😂
Me 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😊😊😊
I'm buddy... Boring day gyaa socha raat thori horrible ho jyee
Me
Main dekh Raha hoon 😅
8:46 - "jiss din dekhe ga,,uss din manne ke liye zinda nehi bachogi..!" - sahi bola uncle ji..😅
Hollywood ki haunted movie se bhi bahut achchi movie hai. Thanks goldmines
Nhe ussy achi koi movie ni bnnie na dekhie na mili😢😢😢
This is the first ghost movie in which the ghost has not been shown properly. And finished the whole movie in just one dress.Also without music, songs. Really very nice and fantastic movie. ❤
that's the pointtt.......
i salute for her courage last survived girl ..
It's ok but real salute to Neel ko jata vo usi ki wajah se bchi h
Idiot sara suspense kharab kr diya comment krke
I love this films ita an amazing concept no herions and heros no sexual scences no other concept you cn see it with your family too ..... bollywood always gives remarks to heros nd heroines films but this is real hero heroine what a wonderful acting of all guys and the last lady was awesome 😊
Ooh really❤
Kya moovie hai yaarr...best in bollywood...background music ki tho jitni bhi taarif karo kam hii hai..sab log dekho ye moovie...meri taraf se ten out of ten...
Owner ki aatma phle hi aa jati to bichare sabhi bach jate😂😂
Director n mna kia hoga..😂😂
True
Right😂😂😂
Wahi maine v socha😂😂😂 but phir story kaise pta chlti maya ki
Bhai owner khud bhi to sath me 10 logo ko le ja kar jla sakta
Kon 2024 me dekh raha he
App
😅
Mein abhi 2024 /8/8 dekh raha hu
this is one of the best horror movie that Bollyeood ever produced.
This movie is the best horror movie of the Bollywood,but why it is floped.
Kon kon movie dekhne se phle comment padhne aaya hai like kre
Mai.i.coming.lo.fir.aa.gaye
Kya.socha.tha.tumne.ham.nahi.ayenge
likes lene ki ninja technique😂
Main
Yeh movie bohat baar dekh chuka hoon dar lagta hai
Mai karti hu comment
I really didn't understand why the film got flopped! Its a very good movie. Unknown faces tha isliye kya? Bipasha Basu, Dino morea, Emraan Hashmi, Kangana Ranaut jaisi known faces nehi the isliye flop hua? These 7 new people in the film really acted very well...! Each and everyone acted and executed well!
Moral of story : party ke bad sidha gand utha ke ghar jane ka dosto ki baton me ni aane ka
Sahi 🫡☝️😂
Bhai doston ki baton m Kahan aya mamla us buddhy ny khrb Kiya jo news dekh rha tha josh dila diya sbko lory ny😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
Sahi kaha bhai chutiya doston se samajhdaar dushman zyaada behtar hai
@@usmangee4943 Sahi kaha 😂😂
In the first few minutes when the girl saw her own reflection, it probably indicated that she will be the sole survivor at the end, cause' others couldn't see themselves but the girl could.
Yeah..you are right
Time?
@@niikysh15:25
I am looking for these comments. I also believe that it indicates she will be only survival.😇☺
Ise darawni movie aj tk maine nhi dekhi mujhe horror movies bohot pasand h and ek ye hi movie h jise dekhkr aj bhi mujhe dar lagta h ek ek scene dawravna h iska best horror movie❤
Rat Ka 1 bja dkho Bhai mri trah mja aiga😅
Thik kaha bro q😂😂
Without any vulgur scene it's best horror movie
It's my second time...I saw this movie a few years ago..and am watching it today..
Once i watched this movie when i was 4 years and cant stop watching it Bestest movie ever
Is movie me koi bhi Ganda seen nhi dikhaya isliye ye very very best movie hai
Haa sachme
Dikhana chahiye thaa yr
@@kundanmunjal7340bhkk tharki
I see many of English horror movie which are rated very high , but this movie fuses all of them . This movie is on top
Who are watching this movie things that neel would be only one who survive
Ps- really bad for his death he is the one who motivates everyone should survive
Yes and dusra ajit jo mar gaya
Maine abhi Sony Max pe dekhi film raat 12 45 pe wo bhi akele apne room Mai sala film toh 1 bje khtum hogyi but ab sala neend ni aarhi socha TH-cam pe dekhta hu ke ye movie upload hai toh upload thi so ab Ispe comment krdiya 😁
This is one of the best horror movies ❤️
Hi
In Bollywood and its under rated movie its really good movie !
Don't dare to watch alone at night 😢 so scary what a movie 🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥🎥 amazing actor's, plot,story
Movie was nice worth of watching .this is under rated movie.
Jab bhi horror movie ke bare koi discuss karte hai main ye movie ka nam pehle leta hu❤ best horror movie
तारीख 18 अगस्त 2023 आज मैं 15 दिन रोज साउथ की एक से दो मूवी रोज देखता हूं वह भी भूत बाली अकेला कसम से झूठ नहीं कहता हूं लेकिन मुझे कभी भी ना रात में डर लगता और ना ही दिन में क्योंकि मैं पुजारी हूं माता पिता का इसीलिए डर नहीं लगता जीते जागते भगवान है❤❤ मेरे पास जय माता पिता की और उसे ईश्वर की जय जो हमारे माता पिता को खुश रखता है और उन्हें देता और माता पिता मुझे शक्ति देते खुश रहने के लिए और डर का सामना करने के लिए❤❤❤❤
Bhai ek do achi movie suggest kr do 😢😊
Mujhe bhi yar
😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
Yes she was brave last girl and. I love shower scene
😂pichle 7 8 sal me 15 bar laghbagh dekhi aur aaj direct fir se dekh rhi hu😅
Acha lgta hai rat ko dekhna thoda dar ke sath,😁😉😝
Mujhe bhi mja aaya mai bhi 5 baar dekh chuka hu kaafi time baad dekhta hu toh mja aata hai very scarry
@abutarik3584 tumhari baato sei mujhe movie sei bhi jyada dar lag rha h v😂😂😂😂😂
Mai to karan kundra ko dekhkr aayi hu movie dekhne 1st baar bina search ke mil gyi movie aur mujhe na horror movies itni psnd h kya btau aur dr to 1% bhi nhi lgta 😂😂
Hi
Excitement me kabhi bevkufi nahi karni chahiye😢
In this movie the most one brave is Karan ❤
Shandaaar Movie with Best Sound..
कोण कोण मेरी तरह रात को सुसु करने के बाद Horror movie देखता है 😂😂😂
They had a concept of back rooms years ago😮
2024 anyone?
Me
Hay
Yep
Yes
Yes
Bro.. This is one of the best horror movie according to me!!! Otherwise bollywood or tollywood just make horror movies so boring and funny too!! 😅🥲
Ho gya farewell 😂
No ❌ ho gyi party ✅😂😂😂
Kon kon July 2024 ma ya movie dakh raha ha
Me
We want part 2 , so badly
I want k 2 ND part please
We want
No they will just ruin it just like they did of 1920 horror of the heart
The film was fantastic ❤
But in these in members 7 went only 1 girl live 😢 atleast 2 members can live 😅
Wtf 😱itna dorabna movie maine Bollywood mai kabhi nahi dhekaa🙃
😅
It's a good movie....worth to watch....
Sirf meena jinda bachegi......
If Usa has conjuring universe we have Vikram Bhatt films 🛐🥶
Kise kise ye movie Bina search kiye mili hai😅😅😅
Mujhe mili hai yaar 😂😂😂😂😂
Muja 😅😅
Karan kundra looking is so cute 🥰
😂
If a family character is in a horror movie, she always ruins the situation.
I don't know but ye movie famous kyu ni Hui mujhe aj bhi ish movie se dar lagta hai story and acting great pure horror movie in Bollywood
Bhailog movie bahut achha hain mja aa gya dekh kr
This is the most dangerous horror movie I have ever watched.
Bollywood ki sabse behtreen horror movie hai ye sirf iski background music aur activity se dar laga best movie
Just amazing movie ❤
Must watch
Oooo God iss movie ko mai jitni bar dekhti hu itni hi bar Dr lgta hai ☹️🥺😨😱😱😱really best horror movie ever. ❤
Dar to lgta hai lekin Film ko 2,3 br dekhoge toh sirf drama lgega B's 😅😅😅
Ha bahi😅😅
In this situation there is only one who can save you .
The one supreme power who can defeat 100 Lucifers in a single punch .
Ashta siddhi navnidhi ka master .
The avatar of Rudra🕉️
One and only Bajarangbali 🚩🙏
Bhoot pishach nikat nahin Ave mahaveer jab naam sunaba .
Jai shree Ram 🚩🕉️🕉️
*This is called Horror Movie ❤ amazing movie 🍿🎥*
Tumari cmnt dekhke movie dekh rahi hu accha nahi laga to marungi😂😂
@@Samjhana777 acha lage toh kissi dena esko 😅
Kya story ha bai 😮
Mind-blowing
Last seen gjab
Meri ab tk ki Bollywood horrer movie m se No 1❤
Is movie ka part 2 bnna chiea...
This is the best movie ever.😊 i like thw the unity between them❤ as friends
Kon kon late night horror movies dekhta hai ????😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤❤
Maine pehli bar ye movie dekhi thi mere brother ke dost ke birthday par uske ghar mein tab main bohot choti thi 13 ya 14 years old tab se aaj tak kuch kuch scene hai iss movie ki jo main apni ankhe band Karti hoon toh mujhe dikhai deti hai mujhe horror movie story bohot acche lagte hai sirf ye movie hai jissse dekh kar main dar gyi thi iske baad or pehle maine bohot sari movie dekhi lekin ye wala or ye bhoot ki wo mental hospital mei behtke hasna oh my god main bohot dar gyi thi iske baaad maine ye movie bohot bar dekh dekh ke dar ko Maar diya
Lgta h tab mujhe nhi dekhna chahiye m ab nhi dekhne wali 😢
School times back to then I guess 2012 or 2014 when this movies was played in television sitting with family caousin brothers and sisters oh my ghosh it was epic moments when break was show and have to go washroom with afraid and again when movie continues after break oh damn 🎉🎉
Movie with full suspense 😢
Kon kon 2024 mein ye movie dekh Raha hai 😐🔥🥺
It's me😊😊
I watch this movie at 2am night alone 😧😧
Same😢😢😢😢😢
36:10 terrifying scene 🤡😨
Bruh i would be fainted there 😂😢
That was karan's debut film❤
abhi yaha se tum gujri thi isliye abhi yahan se main gujar raha hoon or agar ham abhi yahan se nai gujarenge na ,to main hamesha ke liye yahan se gujar jaunga 😂 this line amazing 😅
It's my 3rd time...I saw this movie a 4 years ago..and am watching it today..🙂💫
Ek baar ek episode dekha tha koi hai aur aahat ka sayed...movie theater, a horrific ghost, curious people... was really scary... lekin ye movie is one of the best horror movie I have ever seen.
All time favorite ❤❤
100x times better than the conjuring
Not really.... But it is a scary movie
Yes really 100 times better scary
@abutarik3584 dekh ab wo chudail kaise teri gotiya masal masal k maje leti hai dekh tu ab dekh
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Yes 100 times better than conjuring for sure
I am from 🇵🇰 and watching TV and movies of India horror I really love it ❤
Thx from India
Fun fact :--kisi ko hanuman chalisa nahi yaad hai 😂😂❤ yaad hota to koi nahi marta ❤❤
Haa naa main soch ri thi koi to Hanuman ji ka naam lo dekh 😂
Exactly 😂
Vo bahri thi sayd sunate to sunti bhi kaise
Man i watch many horror movies.....inhave seen almost every horror movie in netflix prime u tube and what notbut i xpected nothing from here but i was surprised...mujhhe goosebumps aa gy... seriously the movie gets better with time
I can't argue why Bollywood flopped this movie, when they themselves are flop.