It's a pretty unbelievable argument that he tries to make... "If we just give them what they want, then we will have the means to manipulate them better." 🙄
Good chat but I think there's some standard middle east conspiratorial myopia coming from Reza. In particular, I think he chooses to lazily treat the US government as a monolith. His characterization of America's attitude towards democracy promotion is just off the money. There's a popular and loud critique that liberal internationalists have hijacked policy towards idealistic ends rather than America's real power interests. Colby would be arguing that point. His talk about contemporary democracy promotion also seems to ignore the time, money and treasure the US put into Afghanistan and Iraq. If you want to talk about Palestine, well it's a very similar situation to the embargo and cuban exiles. Domestic American politics drive that specific relationship. Turning to Iran, it feels like he purposefully elides the Iranian nuclear program. What are the consequences of that for Saudi (and the rest of us given Saudi extremism.) I think perhaps Marshall could have put Reza's feet to the fire a few times. Still on the whole lovely guest and lovely interview.
I think he's making a sensible argument. The brutality of the Iranian government does not negate the devastating effects of U..s foreign policy decisions. From the more known wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to the lesser known covert support of dictators like Suharto in Indonesia in 65-66 and subsequent massacres committed with CIA intervention. The Arab Spring uprising pro democracy movement came at the expense of dictators heavily supported by the American government who beat their population into submission literally and figuratively. I'm not an idealist like I was in my younger days I've accepted that states like other entities are pragmatic, while I know supporting democracy abroad was just a schtick we don't have to pretend anymore. u.s foreign policy is realist and self interested as is pretty much all foreign policy imo states preserve their interests and advance their goals. America is no better or worse
Fascinating account of Persian history. Was leery of Aslan's take as his cable news/ "social justice" narrative starts to seep through from time to time.
Love your US-middle east relations episode. Given its prevalence in the news (and the fact my sister lives there), could you do one on US-Saudi relationships?
Really? I had more respect for you guys. Reza Aslan? To call him the used car salesman of Middle Eastern politics and culture is an insult to used car salesmen.
This is a great interview. I love the way Marshall and Saagar interview people. This person is good at explaining themselves clearly and he answers questions. I like that in a guest.
Removing the sanctions is the carrot. If only Iran had something vaguely representing a representative government. The religious government completely controls the secular one and approves all candidates. Iran is probably amenable to democracy. We may well be supporting the protests in every way we can, But you can't force western-style liberal democracy onto a country that isn't ready for it. (Afghanistan)
Haha I was thinking the same thing.. I feel like there's a small handful of really good interviews with actual experts on actually important topics and the rest are just these hacks who you'd find at the media elitist cocktail parties.
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Reza is a master rhetorician. He is so smooth, you might miss that he is giving you a line.
It's a pretty unbelievable argument that he tries to make... "If we just give them what they want, then we will have the means to manipulate them better." 🙄
@@737smartin It is the only logical argument that can be made. Everything else has failed for 40 years.
Good chat but I think there's some standard middle east conspiratorial myopia coming from Reza. In particular, I think he chooses to lazily treat the US government as a monolith. His characterization of America's attitude towards democracy promotion is just off the money. There's a popular and loud critique that liberal internationalists have hijacked policy towards idealistic ends rather than America's real power interests. Colby would be arguing that point. His talk about contemporary democracy promotion also seems to ignore the time, money and treasure the US put into Afghanistan and Iraq. If you want to talk about Palestine, well it's a very similar situation to the embargo and cuban exiles. Domestic American politics drive that specific relationship.
Turning to Iran, it feels like he purposefully elides the Iranian nuclear program. What are the consequences of that for Saudi (and the rest of us given Saudi extremism.)
I think perhaps Marshall could have put Reza's feet to the fire a few times. Still on the whole lovely guest and lovely interview.
I think he's making a sensible argument. The brutality of the Iranian government does not negate the devastating effects of U..s foreign policy decisions. From the more known wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to the lesser known covert support of dictators like Suharto in Indonesia in 65-66 and subsequent massacres committed with CIA intervention.
The Arab Spring uprising pro democracy movement came at the expense of dictators heavily supported by the American government who beat their population into submission literally and figuratively.
I'm not an idealist like I was in my younger days I've accepted that states like other entities are pragmatic, while I know supporting democracy abroad was just a schtick we don't have to pretend anymore.
u.s foreign policy is realist and self interested as is pretty much all foreign policy imo states preserve their interests and advance their goals. America is no better or worse
Another top-notch quality conversation from the Realignment. Great interview, Marshall. Kudos all. 👏🏼
Fascinating account of Persian history. Was leery of Aslan's take as his cable news/ "social justice" narrative starts to seep through from time to time.
This guest ate human flesh a few years ago during a CNN interview.
Please explain that statement.
I hope the Iranian people throw those monsters in the dust bin of history
And I hope America let’s then control their own destiny
All I think about when seeing this guy is how much Sam Harris shredded him. Can't take him seriously anymore after how poorly he handled that exchange
And how did he shredded him exactly ?
You mean when Sam Harris cried and ran to his mommy?
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@@ek5273 I’m not a lame incel so someone gotta define
Love your US-middle east relations episode. Given its prevalence in the news (and the fact my sister lives there), could you do one on US-Saudi relationships?
Really? I had more respect for you guys. Reza Aslan? To call him the used car salesman of Middle Eastern politics and culture is an insult to used car salesmen.
Did you forget that Weinstein interview? I think their interviewee choices are SEO-based.
Reza Aslan is more accurate and truthful than most of the idiots that puke out the conventional narrative.
One thing all the Ayatollahs agree on, they don't like Rabbis
NAYAK
This is a great interview. I love the way Marshall and Saagar interview people. This person is good at explaining themselves clearly and he answers questions. I like that in a guest.
I used to like Reza Asian one upon a time but he has become a buffoon of let wing propaganda.
He is more truthful and accurate than most.
Removing the sanctions is the carrot. If only Iran had something vaguely representing a representative government. The religious government completely controls the secular one and approves all candidates.
Iran is probably amenable to democracy. We may well be supporting the protests in every way we can, But you can't force western-style liberal democracy onto a country that isn't ready for it. (Afghanistan)
Ugh. This guy…
Very eloquent..
@@naturalbliss55 yeah I was clearly trying to blow people away with my linguistic elegance
Just coming by to say I’m not going to watch this, this man is a hack.
You should just change the name to the cocktail hour. Starting people that think they're better than you and know it
Haha I was thinking the same thing.. I feel like there's a small handful of really good interviews with actual experts on actually important topics and the rest are just these hacks who you'd find at the media elitist cocktail parties.
Reza apparently does know better than you because everything he said was correct.
This guy is a goof. Uhg