I freaking love the trooper by iron maiden, so the fact they would play that song before they would march for certain death against the zombies, really made me feel the adrenaline
i love mark hamill's choices of voices for these stories. the battle of yonkers he had a very skips-like gruff voice but this one is a dead ringer for luke skywalker.
Ok cool. Fuck Netflix they’ll ruin World War Z. Just keep it in book form. Reading books is better than watching a constant source of artificial light anyway.
Sister Montoya reminds me of my abuela. An old wiry survivor who could walk inexhaustibly with her bags of groceries. If she had to protect someone she cared about she would without question kill if she could, be it living or undead.
Pretty sure there's enough soldiers in the world for one of them to say "clips" if they want to. Such a strange modern thing in every comment section on youtube - "YOU'RE NOT A REAL X IF YOU SAY/DO Y".
I agree. Based on it's description and capabilities I think it is supposed to be a based on the M-4/m-16 which makes sense since they were deliberately made to be able to be made with whatever you can get. In the event of a total war
The reason they made new rifles is to prevent wastefulness from AR's and M-4's because while they can fire on semi-automatic, the temptation to go full auto exists with those rifles, and if a soldier were to panic and snap during the zombie campaign, at best they would waste ammo unnecessarily and at worst they might injure themselves and their comrades badly under a state of psychosis. Not to mention that they were gonna be fighting in extremely rough terrain, far away from resupply lines, constantly surrounded by hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of enemies, meaning that your gun jamming would probably mean certain death, and both the M-4 and AR-15's have an overly complicated design that is infamous for being easy to jam if not maintained well.
@@lazarussolomon3541 Also, pretty sure both the M-4 and M-16 have plastic components, which would have been somewhat rare because in the story of the book, oil is in high supply and extremely low demand due to the collapse of supply lines and drilling operations.
So... the Standard Infantry Rifle is one of the segments of World War Z I *really* can't wrap my mind around. Why did the US create a brand new wooden rifle when we have some of the largest surpluses of AR-15s on earth? The AR-15 itself is an insanely modular weapon which is why it's arguably so popular. A civilian AR-15 can be modified to fire heavier ammunition for hunting, be shortened for home defense, or extended for accuracy at a longer range. Civilian variants are all semi-automatics and the military variants can also be made to function that exact same way if the concern is a grunt wasting ammo by switching to full-auto, so you don't have that excuse for them switching. Wood is also a questionable choice given how it can bend and swell in the wrong environments, causing serious accuracy issues. It's partly why the M16 ultimately replaced the M14 in Vietnam and why current military variants of the M14 are also made of composite materials. The S.I.R and the AR-15 also use the same bullet type (5.56 NATO). It's a decent round. Small so you can carry more of it, when shot from a rifle it does the needed damage to destroy the brain, and it's small enough that it usually won't go through a soft target like a human body. And that's kind of what confuses me the most. The US already has a massive stockpile of these things, and in the novel, it is employing a "bang for buck" policy. Military hardware is mothballed and recycled for potential future use, so... what happened to the million or so M16/M4 military rifles, let alone the estimated five to ten million civilian AR-15 style rifles? Would it not have been easier to just convert a million or so M16s/M4s to only fire in semi-auto instead of using valuable resources to create a brand new infantry rifle? I know they didn't fully get rid of them given a later section explicitly mentions the US going "full convent" for Chicago, bringing out the pre-war arsenal. Anyway, this bugged me and I did a bit of research. According to the TV Tropes page, apparently Max Brooks just REALLY hates the AR-15 platform, even calling it one of the worst rifles ever designed in his Zombie Survival Guide (he made a lot of historical mistakes in that description, so let's just leave it at that). Yeah, the reality is a bit underwhelming for one of the larger hiccups in the book. Either way, it was a weird point in the book that made me raise an eyebrow, but maybe that's because I like guns a bit more.
@@shadhinov ...no? For starters, guns don't just "go away". AR-15 variant rifles, for example, have been literally in every branch of the American military since the late 1960s. Now, if the implication is they were all or most were "recycled"... somehow... it's never mentioned, nor does it make sense because it would be more wasteful to recycle than to just keep them in use. Even in this "post-apocalyptic" scenario, the "apocalypse" is stated to have been subdued in the western US by conventional military forces as mentioned by Todd, and even then, ten years isn't enough for guns, let alone AR-15s to be "long gone" especially given how many exist and are in use. Secondly, we *know* they kept them in use because Todd mentions the Army had to go "full convent" on a few occasions, back with automatic weapons, back with LMGs, and even armored vehicles and tanks. Todd explained in the Yonkers chapter that modern weapons didn't fail, but the "human mind" did. The US wasn't there to just get rid of all its guns or vehicles, that's stated over and over. Finally, the fact the S.I.R's cartridge is the 5.56 NATO round, the *same* round used by the AR-15 is all the proof you need they still existed. At the end of the day, this is just a major pothole in the story because what Max Brooks did was have a nation actively trying to watch where its resources went and reused what it could. Them ignoring America's massive stockpile of AR-15s and creating a new *wooden* rifle directly contradicts that point. Probably because Brooks has openly stated his hatred of the AR-15s design, but who really knows? It's still just one screwup in the story among several in an overall solid read.
@@dfmrcv862 well when I was reading I was thinking about ak. How this weapon is most often used by almost the entire world. Because it's robust and easy to mass produce. American guns are are lotta unnecessary. So that makes sense.
I freaking love the trooper by iron maiden, so the fact they would play that song before they would march for certain death against the zombies, really made me feel the adrenaline
ours is not to question why, but to do and die.
If it happened today the Halo 2 theme would be playing.
i love mark hamill's choices of voices for these stories. the battle of yonkers he had a very skips-like gruff voice but this one is a dead ringer for luke skywalker.
God I wish they made this a Netflix series
O ya?
Why’s that?
@@seymoorepoone9512 ...read the book?
Ok cool.
Fuck Netflix they’ll ruin World War Z.
Just keep it in book form. Reading books is better than watching a constant source of artificial light anyway.
Apple would be better
A mockumentary series would be great!
Have “The Trooper” on my playlist just because of this book
Same. Also I Was Only 19 by Redgum
Luke Skywalker killing zombies luke...... use THE force Luke
Swings lobo
ha ha ha well said
4:03
"pfft. Survival guides..."
hahaha
Brooks did it again.
Hilarious.
I love Todd's character in this book I didn't even recognize him the second time he appeared the book
Sister Montoya reminds me of my abuela. An old wiry survivor who could walk inexhaustibly with her bags of groceries. If she had to protect someone she cared about she would without question kill if she could, be it living or undead.
Is this the wonderful Mr. Hamill again?
Sure is!!
Now this is a fucking redemption tour, especially after Yonkers
So cool i can hear the dish clashing in the background...in my mind
This chapter was great. Up the irons. 😈
This chapter begs for an adaptation
8:00 “she was a noob.”
What is this cod
I mean this was written in the mid 2000s right around cod 4s release so yah.
@@jonaswhitt4322 fair enough
Pretty sure in the book it stands for "newbie", or a newly turned zombie
My favourite tory of my favourite book.
Extra mags or ammo or rounds - but no soldier would say "clips".
Pretty sure there's enough soldiers in the world for one of them to say "clips" if they want to. Such a strange modern thing in every comment section on youtube - "YOU'RE NOT A REAL X IF YOU SAY/DO Y".
I imagine clips would be more economical in such a desperate situation to spare the metal required for the spring of a magazine
Great stuff. Just don’t see the need to develop a new rifle. I’m sure there were thousands of ARs and M-4s.
They have millions of soldiers the world was very limited in everything. remember any supplies in the lower 48 west of the Rockies are unusable
I agree. Based on it's description and capabilities I think it is supposed to be a based on the M-4/m-16 which makes sense since they were deliberately made to be able to be made with whatever you can get. In the event of a total war
The reason they made new rifles is to prevent wastefulness from AR's and M-4's because while they can fire on semi-automatic, the temptation to go full auto exists with those rifles, and if a soldier were to panic and snap during the zombie campaign, at best they would waste ammo unnecessarily and at worst they might injure themselves and their comrades badly under a state of psychosis.
Not to mention that they were gonna be fighting in extremely rough terrain, far away from resupply lines, constantly surrounded by hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of enemies, meaning that your gun jamming would probably mean certain death, and both the M-4 and AR-15's have an overly complicated design that is infamous for being easy to jam if not maintained well.
@@lazarussolomon3541 Also, pretty sure both the M-4 and M-16 have plastic components, which would have been somewhat rare because in the story of the book, oil is in high supply and extremely low demand due to the collapse of supply lines and drilling operations.
As in swarmed by the Undead.
Keep em comming please
Thanks a ton bro!
Michael Stipe, Zombie killer!
Kenneth, What’s the frequency? [lobo’d]
Kenneth, What’s the frequency? [lobo’d]
Kenneth, What’s the frequency? [lobo’d]
So... the Standard Infantry Rifle is one of the segments of World War Z I *really* can't wrap my mind around. Why did the US create a brand new wooden rifle when we have some of the largest surpluses of AR-15s on earth? The AR-15 itself is an insanely modular weapon which is why it's arguably so popular. A civilian AR-15 can be modified to fire heavier ammunition for hunting, be shortened for home defense, or extended for accuracy at a longer range. Civilian variants are all semi-automatics and the military variants can also be made to function that exact same way if the concern is a grunt wasting ammo by switching to full-auto, so you don't have that excuse for them switching. Wood is also a questionable choice given how it can bend and swell in the wrong environments, causing serious accuracy issues. It's partly why the M16 ultimately replaced the M14 in Vietnam and why current military variants of the M14 are also made of composite materials. The S.I.R and the AR-15 also use the same bullet type (5.56 NATO). It's a decent round. Small so you can carry more of it, when shot from a rifle it does the needed damage to destroy the brain, and it's small enough that it usually won't go through a soft target like a human body.
And that's kind of what confuses me the most.
The US already has a massive stockpile of these things, and in the novel, it is employing a "bang for buck" policy. Military hardware is mothballed and recycled for potential future use, so... what happened to the million or so M16/M4 military rifles, let alone the estimated five to ten million civilian AR-15 style rifles? Would it not have been easier to just convert a million or so M16s/M4s to only fire in semi-auto instead of using valuable resources to create a brand new infantry rifle?
I know they didn't fully get rid of them given a later section explicitly mentions the US going "full convent" for Chicago, bringing out the pre-war arsenal.
Anyway, this bugged me and I did a bit of research.
According to the TV Tropes page, apparently Max Brooks just REALLY hates the AR-15 platform, even calling it one of the worst rifles ever designed in his Zombie Survival Guide (he made a lot of historical mistakes in that description, so let's just leave it at that).
Yeah, the reality is a bit underwhelming for one of the larger hiccups in the book.
Either way, it was a weird point in the book that made me raise an eyebrow, but maybe that's because I like guns a bit more.
Because he fell for the meme that modern M4s are the same as the first Mike 16s of Vietnam.
@@Wooper160atThePond yeah... Kinda sad given the amount of research done here.
It's a post apocalyptic scenario. These existing weapons are probably long gone.
@@shadhinov ...no?
For starters, guns don't just "go away". AR-15 variant rifles, for example, have been literally in every branch of the American military since the late 1960s. Now, if the implication is they were all or most were "recycled"... somehow... it's never mentioned, nor does it make sense because it would be more wasteful to recycle than to just keep them in use. Even in this "post-apocalyptic" scenario, the "apocalypse" is stated to have been subdued in the western US by conventional military forces as mentioned by Todd, and even then, ten years isn't enough for guns, let alone AR-15s to be "long gone" especially given how many exist and are in use.
Secondly, we *know* they kept them in use because Todd mentions the Army had to go "full convent" on a few occasions, back with automatic weapons, back with LMGs, and even armored vehicles and tanks.
Todd explained in the Yonkers chapter that modern weapons didn't fail, but the "human mind" did. The US wasn't there to just get rid of all its guns or vehicles, that's stated over and over.
Finally, the fact the S.I.R's cartridge is the 5.56 NATO round, the *same* round used by the AR-15 is all the proof you need they still existed.
At the end of the day, this is just a major pothole in the story because what Max Brooks did was have a nation actively trying to watch where its resources went and reused what it could. Them ignoring America's massive stockpile of AR-15s and creating a new *wooden* rifle directly contradicts that point.
Probably because Brooks has openly stated his hatred of the AR-15s design, but who really knows?
It's still just one screwup in the story among several in an overall solid read.
@@dfmrcv862 well when I was reading I was thinking about ak. How this weapon is most often used by almost the entire world. Because it's robust and easy to mass produce. American guns are are lotta unnecessary. So that makes sense.