Does Creatine Cause Hair Loss? | The Hair Loss Show
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I love that this dude got straight to the point and then gave the science to back it up
So, basically, you can either be bald and ripped or just bald.
Bald
Nice. Haha
Straight away😂👍
@@nadegaming3136lbciuyD 3:44 p😅R
Haha
Started taking creatine aged 18, have taken it consistently for almost 10 years (I’m 27 in 3 months time). I am genetically predisposed to mpb and have in the last 1-2 years began to show some thinning of the crown and temples. I would anecdotally say that creatine has had very little to do with this. My mpb genes are the culprit.
Can I ask how tall you Are and if ypu Are taller than youre father
@@Aldinsverden 5 foot 11, I’m an inch or so shorter than my dad. How come?
Did creatine helped u grow taller?
@@ellyshawn no 😂
@@tcsfitness its beacause People claim creatine makes you taller
Three years on five grams a day, almost 40 years old, zero hair loss.
U have good hair genetics man
@@ramezalabed361 I wish. I actually have moderately receded hair that is thin in the front but taking monohydrate and chloride forms of creatine has not progressed it.
fr bro? bc im 19 and my hairs already thin af and falls out pretty often and im scared to take creatine lol
Hasn't affected me.
@@zakwalker4876 same bro
so refreshing getting right to the point and no dragging; assign of true expertise
Thanks
I was 20 years old when i started lifting weights, approximately 2 months later i began to grow hair in areas i usually didn't have. TRUE STORY (super not hairy guy, without creatine.)
Wow! Interesting antidote. First time I've heard that. Good stuff!
Late bloomer
@@walaaya2223 yea, exactly.
increases bloodflow
After taking creative?
I’ve fought the temptation to take creatine for more than ten years since seriously working out. I have male pattern baldness in the family and heard anecdotal horror stories from guys and their hair loss speeding up due to creatine. In the end I decided, for me, a full head of hair and muscles is better than baldness and muscles.
Same for me
Black dudes pull off bald really well, and I feel like women are less judgemental about it but maybe I'm wrong
@@BOSSDONMAN Not only black dudes... ;P But who likes bald ladies?
@At All Costs hair>>
Interesting fact: Did you know that a steak typically contains 5-7 grams of creatine? I'm curious, are you a vegetarian or do you enjoy eating meat? :D :D :D
Great lecturer. Very talented. Able to explain complex topics in a succinct and animated manner. Excellent content!
the fact that these hair doctors themselves can't prevent their own hairloss indicates that it's waste of time to consult doctors for hairloss.
@@amazingdude9042if it’s a genetic you can not control it.
I find this a weird answer. Nobody is asking if it CAUSES hair loss, they're asking if it speeds it up. People who haven't lost any hair generally aren't worrying about hair loss lol, it's people who have the gene by default. No reference to scientific evidence at all in this video to actually explain where the idea that creatine causes hair loss comes from. This is literally just your opinion dude.
creatine pushed my norwood 1 to norwood 2 which is a pretty big jump especially in a short time of 6-8 months. I stopped and my hair is fine ever since, except a lil paranoia.
@@djodysseus7851 really?
@@DaanV9 yep. people told me my creatine might have been tainted. Would explain the insane gains and the insane bloating. Also people told me I might consumed oral steroids mixed with creatine and you know since I took It, stopped and lost 10kgs I kinda have a lil extra fat deposited under my left nipple. Might be a very mild start of a gyno which is crazy since I was skinny all my life. Who knows how fucked might have been my T-levels around that time. Scary.
I find this video adding absolutely nothing to what most people facing some sort of hair loss know.
@@djodysseus7851 the same thing happened to me. This is pretty simple really creatine raises your DHT levels if your hair follicles are sensitive to DHT, you will suffer from hair loss. I took creatine when I was young like 14 years old and it accelerated my hair loss.
Creatine doesn’t cause hair loss, Creatine affects the hormone that causes hair loss. So technically, it does.If you have a family history of baldness/thin hair, chances are you’ve already seen those signs before taking Creatine. Creatine just accelerates it. Obviously not everyone reacts the same.
so basically it do yall need to keep it real
Yep. Even finasteride isn’t enough to stop it.
Interesting fact: Did you know that a steak typically contains 5-7 grams of creatine? I'm curious, are you a vegetarian or do you enjoy eating meat? :D :D :D
Accelerates it by 200mph
So basically what you’re saying is eating red meat and exercising will also “affect the hormone that causes hair loss”. So in other words, based off of what you’ve just said, eating red meat and exercising will accelerate hair loss?
The main take away is that yes it will speed your hair loss if you have the gene for male pattern baldness. Even working out increases DHT so that will speed it up too. Also eating animal products that contain creatine will speed it up. So many factors.
The people saying they haven’t had no hair loss are the ones with good hair genes. If your family got bald patches and receding hairlines you have a high chance that you will also get that as well. Creatine just causes increased DHT and what that means for your body depends on your genes. There has been no study relating creatine to hair loss, but there are studies that do relate it to increased DHT.
This guy gets it.
What bugs me is that people defend creatine by saying “well it’s your genetics so you were gonna lose it later anyway”
If that is the case, to me..having hair for 20 years is far better than 15. It makes a difference and gives you more time to respond to balding with medication or surgery.
All meat has creatine lol and yeah the hair loss thing is a myth. I agree with you
It’s all genetics
@@JamesTaylor-cl4pq The amount of creatine in meat is microscopic in comparison to what you get from one scoop of the actual supplement.
That’s like saying you can breathe underwater because water has some oxygen.
Started taking creatine a week ago and after seeing it is very likely to cause hair loss, never taking it again! Glad I found this out and see people’s comments from first hand experience
On the same boat, started taking creatine from yesterday and since I have mpb in my genes I’m going to stay clear of creatine.
@@DanishKhan-lw2srdid your hair grew back?
@@kum4jhe I just used it for one day so I didn't suffer from any hair loss.
@@DanishKhan-lw2srwhat is mpb
For anyone interested. I’m planning on doing an experiment on myself to test if I experienced hair loss while taking creatine monohydrate, so here’s the set up. I’ve currently been taking creatine monohydrate for around 3 months, but I think I may have thinned my hair just a bit, but I can’t really tell. So I plan on stopping creatine supplementation for around 2-3 months, and seeing if my hair gets thicker or if I was freaking myself out. After the 3 month period I plan on taking creatine HCl for a bit a see if the thinning still persists. Also gonna be tracking if I lose any strength or size
Edit: I’ve been posting responses but TH-cam is deleting them idk. Anyways I used creatine hcl for about a month with nizoral shampoo, which is theorized to be a topical anti-androgen. It’s hard for me to tell tbh. On the one hand sometimes I feel like I’m losing density, but sometimes I think I’m just in my head. Will continue for now. Maybe I’ll get a hair catcher in my shower to see for sure
Thanks mate I also want to take creatine, but I also have MPB problem for the past 3 years, I have am applying minoxidil and finasteride from the past 3 years and also gotten a hair transplant since I got a lot of thinning, so I am afraid to take creatine supplement or not , well I am talking finasteride which reduces DHT and avoid balding but I am afraid after taking creatine the thinning will start again.
@@geekbotai no problem man. Full transparency I do not use finasteride or minoxidil. I do use a caffeine and castor oil blend with micro needling just as a precautionary measure. I can’t speak to its efficacy at this time, though I suspect it’s much less than minoxidil.
After doing a lot of research I think I will not take creatine, I did a little bit research and I think Shilajit is also a very good alternative to Creatine as it also helps in muscle growth and helps to increase muscle size if it's original.
@@geekbotaiHow much shilajit does one take for that, and in what form?
@@ParaSwarm I am taking 350 mg shilajit, and I am noticing little gains, but still I think creatine is superior, but after doing a lot of research I think I cannot take creatine else the problem may rise again
My stress related hair loss DOUBLED immediately after starting a creatine hair loss.
YES! It causes a radical uptick in shedding!
So many people have had this experience!
Yes, for me it was immediate hair loss and radical. I don't understand why people are saying it doesn't have an effect, It was PROFOUND!!
@@slobbernuckle I suspect that high levels of creatine supplementation may be turning off or on epigenetic pathways that increase hair loss in some who use it. The next step would be to find the pathway and reverse its effects.
Interesting fact: Did you know that a steak typically contains 5-7 grams of creatine? I'm curious, are you a vegetarian or do you enjoy eating meat? :D :D :D
@@chris5897 Theres a huge different between bound creatine and unbound in the same way that bound protein in meat doesnt cause insulin response and insulin resistance as does unbound protein powder in blended drinks that is instantly absorbed and broken down the same as simple carbohydrates.
Absorption rates are also different between unbound free creatine powder and creatine that is bound in meat.
There are processes during digestion that use the creatine in meat as soon as its free so little to none may make its way into the blood stream where it is free to bind with hair-related receptors to cause hair loss.
@@chris5897BS
Straight to the point! Love this channel ❤️
Thanks for this. Forums and other discussion boards usually suggest 'yes' or 'not sure'. I can trust a doctor way more than random people whose diet is Gatorade and power bars. The good an bad thing about my hair situation is that it's super thick and grows like a weed so I have doubts I'll be thinning. According to my mother, my bio father (and grandfather) still retain(ed) a full head of hair, just started to salt n' pepper around mid-30s which will be me in a few years. Five grams of creatine is all anyone needs per day.
No need to 'load' like the directions say. Just take it daily whenever or an hour before weightlifting.
Exactly loading is bs unless you are competing with other people in gym for money lmao
must b italian
Love how he got straight to the point 👍🏻
Let me just say that creatine did cause my hair to fall out. I started taking nuclear creatine for 3 months and boy was I ripped…. But my hair was falling out in the shower every single day, it was a weird shedding that I don’t experience before. I stopped taking creatine and 1 week later, not a single hair fell out. Life is back to normal
Thanks for letting us know. I for sure am not gonna start creatine now. I’d rather just struggle a little more without it than potentially lose any hair. Glad to hear your shedding stopped and you’re doing well now!
@@HisMajesty99 thank you! I know it’s a little disappointing to hear but I just wanted to share my personal experience with creatine. I live stress free life style and I’ve always had decent hair. 3 days after I started creatine is when I noticed bunch of hair falling out in the shower 🤙🏻
@@Lucas-td7jc totally agree i also have similar experience
@@Lucas-td7jc how much did you take creatine per day? I've already ordered one without realizing this fml
It was most definitely the creatine. Thanks for sharing
I had the thickest hair my whole life. Even my barber would remark on how much hair I had. I started taking creatine and didn’t even know hair loss was a remote risk. A year later my brother pointed out my crown looked thin and I was mortified. Granted my dad was fully bald on his crown but he legit balde at like 23. My hair was thick thick thick until like 28 or 29 so I thought I was in the clear, until I started taking creatine. I since stopped taking it and may start finasteride. I’m not bald by any means but I’m noticeably thinner on my crown.
Brother I am facing same issues I am going to stop talking creatine how long will it take to stop hair loss please please tell
I have insanely thick hair every single barber ever says something about it lowkey hope I lose a little bit
@@fotrnite9fortnight635 your hair will probably thin a bit with age but trust me, thick hair is good. It can be a pain to style but my barber comments on it too. It’s a good thing.
@@fotrnite9fortnight635 You should be grateful then
@@barackputin yeah I am because I probably will never be bald and nobody in my family is/was bald either
Yea, I’ll never forget when I just turned 19, started working out for the first time and bought my first tub of creatine. 3-4 months later I started to notice I was losing hair and it’s been a tough battle ever since. I truly believe creatine was what triggered my thinning early.
Try castor oil
@@topaloh I tried that. Didn’t work at all
If I were you, I too would stop taking creatine since it doesn't seem like it's THAT big of a benefit, however, it's very likely that you were just going go to thin regardless of taking creatine. Maybe creatine made it start thinning slightly earlier than it would have, who knows, but I seriously doubt any significant amount of time earlier.
@@RolandDeason Oh trust me I stopped years ago. But yes I agree with the rest of your statement 100%. Since then, I’ve gotten a hair transplant and take fin. My front/hairline is perfect but I’m still experiencing some thinning within the crown. I plan on taking fin for the rest of my life.
@@nlvon sides from fin？low libido /erectile dysfunction
Yes Creatine does cause hair loss. I would take 10g a day, and within 2 weeks of taking that everyday my hairline was thinning rapidly.
so I tested myself.
I got off of Creatine for 8 weeks and my hairline was much much better. got back on and hairline was shedding off again.
Same here did you get all your lost hair back?
@TheAcolossus yes sir, I got off that garbage. I took saw palmetto and magnesium glycinate. everything is good.
After how long your hair regrow how it was before ?
Bro u have to use only 3 to 5 gm per day
It's been about 8 months and my hairline is fine. I just take saw palmetto 4 or 5 days a week now. I also dropped the magnesium a few months back. the problem is, all these youtubers are focusing on a "few" test done on people. while it's hundreds and thousands of real world people confirming Creatine DOES cause hair loss. It's so many Creatine brands and off brands. it no telling what they're putting in that stuff. sure it'll say "Creatine monohydrate" 3g. but what ELSE did they use to beef it up?
Myth busted..Once and forever. There cant be any more reasonable, simple, scientific and biological explanation than this one. Thanks for clarifying the clouds of doubts doc. Long live.😍😍
No smoke without fire. My son is in his early twenties, always had a mane. Started balding about two years ago at the same time as started taking creatine. ‘As i am aware of’ was a hastily mumbled proviso here.
Just because one guy on the internet makes a video saying it doesn't, isn't proof of a myth being busted. More investigation is needed.
@JN-wr9he haha I noticed that too. "That I am aware of"
Except we still don't know if Creatine raises DHT levels which is the crucial point.
the fact that these hair doctors themselves can't prevent their own hairloss indicates that it's waste of time to consult doctors for hairloss.
What if I identify as a women instead of man? Would that prevent me from losing hair?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Will try that :/ im hopeless
Not funny.
@@TheAlfredPlatform very funny
😂😂😂
Great video, but the real question was not if creatine CAUSES hairloss, rather does it directly increases DHT and because of that, cause problems only for people that have the specific gene. For example, I take finasteride and minoxidil because I know I have the gene, but I am still unsure if I should use creatine because it may "undo" the work that the finasteride is making.
Creatine won't "undo" what finasteride does. Finasteride is believed to lower your dht levels by 50/70% (at least that's what I remember). But only around 10% of your testosterone is converted to DHT. So even if your testosterone goes slightly up because you're working out it won't be as strong as the impact of finasteride.
yeah, too bad the doctor missed the mark on this. We don't want to know if whey and creatine cause hairloss, we want to know if they worsen it. Also, I am still unsure as to why, according to him, being more muscular means having more testosterone. Is that always the case? According to this view whey and creatine are simply substances that make your body more muscular, but e know that there are several hormones that do the same without worsening your hair loss.
@Emanuel Pereira the increase was from loading. It decreased after
I've already tested using Finasteride with Minoxidil and creatine... Hair keeps falling out... for those who have a strong baldness gene I think it's no use
What about creatine in the blood vs creatine in tissue. How do u know creatine will affect the hair follicles specifically?
The majority of people suffer from hair thinning with age, gene or no gene.
I am in my mid 30's, I've been working out consistently for many years, and I noticed my hair thinning very slowly in the last few years. For all intents and purposes though, I have a full head of hair, which hasn't changed much in the last 5-10 years. However, I started taking creatine (about 3-5g a day) 3 months ago, and I lost a very significant amount of hair since.
I don't know whether creatine contributes to hair loss by aiding in the conversion of T to DHT, or by some other mechanism unknown to us. All I know is that it has unequivocally made me lose hair.
Which form of creatine you took?
@@tomg5405 micronized creatine monohydrate
Interesting fact: Did you know that a steak typically contains 5-7 grams of creatine? I'm curious, are you a vegetarian or do you enjoy eating meat? :D :D :D
@@chris5897 I eat chicken a few times a week, I rarely eat beef or pork.
Also, I don't know if you can just equate creatine supplementation to creatine intake from nature sources. Take fructose for example: Eating pure fructose will cause you to have a big insulin spike. Eating fructose as part of a fruit, which contains a lot of fibers and other stuff, will cause the fructose to be absorbed slowly, and not cause a big insulin spike.
All this is to say that our bodies processes some pure substances very differently than when they are naturally integrated into foods.
@@arthurthegreat216 fair enough. Good point. Will look into that. But when I take my creatine, I always make sure to take it with other foods and protein rich sources etc. But yea, you never know. I just feel like people really need to get a grip of what we are talking about. Its 3mg pill of creatine. I doubt it will do much with the hair
Creatine changed my whole body to another level, i sometimes been told by people that i m taking something anabolic. But never touched anything different but creatine and protein.
Although my hair started thinning during 3-4 years. I m 31 years old Never had hair loss never had acne even when i was teenager now i have slight acne on my back sometimes on my face. I think i ll have to stop it for 3-4 months to see if my body gets better from side effects and my hair either. It is hard to stop something to make you feel better and make feel strong and look good😢
Do you take Finasteride
@@AA-rn7tz i don’t. it is a life time commitment. I dont think i m ready for it. But i use dht blockers shampoo . Hopefully it will help
Update?
Update?
I did stop it, my skin got way better, hair loss started getting better either. But my work outs started fading a bit without creatine
But i decided taking finasteride. So far so good no side effects. Was scared of ED problems. Everything seems fine tho
The proper answer YOU DID NOT GIVE BY YOUR INITIAL ABBREVIATED ANSWER.The answer is YES IT DOES INCREASE HAIR LOSS IN GENETICALLY SUSCEPTIBLE MEN THAT PARTICIPATE IN WEIGHTLIFTING INTENDED TO STIMULATE MUSCLE HYPERTROPHY.¹
He is still correct. If you workout, you're increasing your test/DHT, no way around it whether you're taking supplements or not. Your hair loss is therefore going to proportional to your muscle growth. if your primary goal is to build muscle, you have to accept that you're going to start losing hair if you have this gene. Might as well get absolutely jacked as fast as possible while you're at it...
@@danielover2764 The catch here is DHT increases caused by exercise and even by the most intense forms of anaerobic exercises are acute and short term, you get back to baseline levels, couple of hours post workout. But Creatine artificially keeps your DHT levels elevated 24/7, through muscle creatine stores and blood creatine levels which is not only very bad for your hair, but also for your prostrate and your skin in general.
Thanks for the video. As you can see by the comments, hardly anyone listened to a word you said and people think creatine causes hairloss even though you clearly state it doesn't.
The cause isn’t always the effect but these comments have me afraid to take it bc I’ve been suffering moderately from it for ab 2 years
4 minutes is too long for people with only 5 sec patient
@@rokeflame5288 It’s in your genes buddy. Everyday that passes you’re one step closer to going bald creatine or not.
@@rokeflame5288 if you taking creatine or not you will speed up your hairloss if you workout because if you workout you increase your testosterone as well as dht so at the end you will loss your hair so if you didn't want to loss your hair the only solution is not to workout lol
@Captain Obvious I know that. It just speeds it up for those with male pattern baldness genes.
Doesn’t creatine specifically increase dht? So taking it would increase more hair loss than just working out alone. It would probably even increase hair loss if you aren’t working out and taking creatine because of dht effects
How much creatine in grams causes a DHT increase? If I lick a spoon of creatine is my dht going to rise to incredible numbers? No. Creatine is naturally found in meat so people have been eating this stuff for years. Obviously it’s hard to get the recommended dose of 5 G through food alone, but nobody knows if 5 grams is even enough to increase the dht. The only study that was done was at 25 grams. That’s 5x the amount.
@@AZ-gs6hj wasn' that just the loading phase though. Im sure they had the loading phase of 7 days of 25 grams then 14 days of 5 grams and they saw increase in dht
@@eugeneku3239 Well yes, but the study mentions that DHT increased 56% in that 7 day loading period. So the majority of the DHT increase was from the loading. It’s not even necessary to load creatine. Then it mentions that it remained at 40% which shows that DHT decreased when they consumed less. It may have continued to drop if the study was extended too. We don’t know what DHT levels will be if someone just takes the 5 grams a day instead of taking megadoses of creatine. 25 grams is absurd amounts of creatine. For a normal athlete consuming a diet with plenty of fish and red meat they may get 1-2 grams of creatine a day. So 5 grams is a not that much of an increase, but 25 is a very high amount. It’s still a very unstudied subject. I avoided creatine due to the hair loss claim, but I’ve taken the plunge and will finish whatever I have left and see if it even does anything for my performance.
@@AZ-gs6hj so if i took creatine once a week would i be good
@@not8278 could be. It also could be too little to even do anything.
I found a way around this. I have the gene for hair loss but I’ve been using finasteride which is a pill that stops testosterone from converting to DHT by a large percentage. It has greatly reduced my hair loss even though I actively work out and take supplements like protein and ashwagandha. After watching this video I think I’ll be adding creatine to that list as well.
I’m scared to take finasteride because of the nasty side effects. Like a tank in libido
@@lancer717 in my case my libido is kinda same as usual. It could be because I’m 19 and my libido is at an all time high. I take 1mg a day and I believe it completely stopped my hair loss and it looks fuller than before. If you’re on the fence like I was I definitely recommend talking to your doctor abt it.
@@lancer717 not everyone experience side effects. Talk to your dermatologist and if you do experience any then just stop taking it
@@lancer717 if you go in with the fear of getting a side effect you will get it. Just take it like a vitamin pill and never think about the side effects because you WILL give yourself a nocebo effect
I thought the same thing. In my experience, creatine completely cancels the effects of finasteride. I’ve been on for finasteride since 2018. Never had a massive shed or any further hair loss. Decided to take creatine(5g) about a month ago. Shedding like crazy.
Thanks for this vid! I’ve been wondering whether or not to take it.
appreciate the info upfront. great video and i appreciate your delivery
I started working out and taking creatine. I have long hair and its thick. I started see hair all over my house and thought oh no.... I stopped working out and taking creatine. I have stopped seeing hair all over my house. I mean all the corners of my house had dust balls of long hair. So.... Yes it does cause hair loss.
After how long your hair regrow how it was before ?
@@denismaftei691 Few weeks but I can tell its not as think at all.
@@TheUgly1s and after how long font fall ?
What about taking creatine and finasteride who have the gene for hair loss ? How much would the Dht go up ? Or would finasteride wouldn’t let the dht go up even if you are taking creatine?
you are missing the point: one research (find it on pubmed) showed that creatine increases DHT by 70%.
Two groups, both working out, one taking creatine and the other not. The creating group increase DHT significantly.
So, it is not working out to increase DHT. It is creatine.
Before giving suggestions, do your homework, please!
Are you a doctor? Just working out alone increases DHT up to 40%
I read the paper too, but they were taking 25g Creatine per day, which is 5 times more than recommended
@@kyuubeetv do you know how creatine works?
@@raffaelecorrente1123 Doesn't matter if he doesn't. You dont take 25 grams. That is 5x more than you should.
@@dragonvarine7553 it's actually suggested for the 1st week to take 20-25g per day as a loading phase and then go to 5 g per day after that which the study mentions. They didn't take more then what's recommended
sir please show your patient long time result on finastride...plzzz🙏🙏
Creatine increases DHT so if your hair follicles are more sensitive to DHT then you will lose hair from jt
It’s the lifting weights that boosts your Testosterone, not creatine . He spent the whole video explaining that. If you’re taking creatine without working out it won’t have a effect to boost testosterone
How do you know if your sensitive to DHT
Because your hair starts to thin
Sad i am sensitive to DHT
After how long your hair regrow how it was before ?
"Does Creatine cause hair loss?"
Vikram: "No, but actually yes, but no. So to wrap it up, yes"
The most concise, to the point assessment i have ever seen. At 48 my thinning hair doesn't worry me whatsoever. We are what we are.
Why are you here then lol, pure scientific research?
Absolutely great video. Highly insightful and informative. Really appreciate it. Thanks! 🙏
Excellent explanation. Thanks!
So I'm pretty sure I have the gene, but since I'm sick and tired of being weak and out of shape, I'm going to continue lifting weights to get back closer to the level of strength I used to have...and I may as well take the creatine to help out. 💪
And are u bald now?
@Zoltan Zoltan No just pretty thin on top. Actually, i've decided to hold off on the Creatine since i'm making pretty decent gains without taking anything.
@@ziggyz2958 have you ever considered trying keeps? I’ve been thinking about it but haven’t decided yet
@@ziggyz2958 At the end of the day creatine is just a tool to get to your goals a smidge faster, where you can get to your goals without creatine anyway.
So you didn't get the peer reviewed memo that creatine causes an over 50% increase in DHT itself - not testosterone via "increased muscle building," as you put it. Just to further emphasize this point, creatine also caused a decrease in the T to DHT ratio, which is why you got this question specifically about creatine and (I'm sure) less so about protein powders. Does this not affect the opinion stated here?
Thank you. Thought it was a much more direct effect. It makes sense that DHT might then help lead to further hypertrophy beyond just have greater capacity to put in greater reps at a heavy weight, but a slow and steady approach of our normal T/DHT will be far less dangerous
what study are you looking at? cuz I found one that says it has no effect on dht
I don't get this. I'm working out regardless of my using creatine or whey so why is it that some people claim that these products cause hairloss? They don't increase testosterone themselves. The Doctor seems to imply that a more muscular body has more testosterone: is that the case? according to this view, everything that makes you more muscular can potentially worsen your hair loss, but we know of anabolic substances that don't seem to do that.
They do claim that because creatine will increase your body recomposition thus increasing your testosterone quicker when you're working out, then they associate the use of creatine to the hair loss
As already said there can be made a like between the two things but they aren't really connected
i just got back from a Hair Removal website with specialised dermatologist. And they suggest hair growth is due to high testosterone while in the video it is telling you the exact opposite. Who is lying?
Litrally no one in my family has thinning or balding hair! I took creatine for 3 months and now im the only member of the family who has very thin, balding hair!
Did it regrow?
@rnavplays3170 no still thinning more and more
Since i stopped too :/
@@buddy_weiser how thin is it and are you having MPB?
@@buddy_weiser and how old are you?
@@rnavplays3170 30 and no idea what that is lol
There's a lot of improvement in my hair. I have been using reactivaate serum of liittllextraa for 4 months. It has become routine. Specially, so little hair fall which you can't even consider. Furthermore, my hair has now grown longer with new hair growth and volume has specially increased. I am very excited with the results.
The key is getting rid of DHT from scalp but keeping it in the body in order for beard/penis gains
I took creatine when I was a teenager and it had no negative effects on my hair. I’m 29 and just started training again and started taking creatine again.
Within a few weeks of taking creatine my hairline started receding and my hair started falling out. Up until then I had no signs of hair loss. Every person is different but creatine definitely had an effect on my hair loss.
sorry to hear that. i'm guessing u stopped taking it?
By the same logic, would you not also have to say that starting strength training again definitely had an effect on your hair loss?
Creatine f’ed up my corners thinning as FCUK
After how long your hair regrow how it was before ?
Well I'm here to say for a fact that on two separate occasions when I started creatine my hair would start lightly shedding. I could just gently pull it through my fingers and it would sparsly fall out into the sink and after I stopped it continued for about 6 months on both occasions. I should have learned my lesson the first timve but I didn't and consequently I have much thinner hair now than I would have otherwise so let this be a warning.
SAME HERE!
Only started 3 days ago and the same thing already happened with me!
@@Jonathan-dc2op i started 7 days ago hairfall has increased like crazy 😧
Have you stopped using creatine have your hairfall stopped after stopping the use of creatine
@@game22331 well I stopped using it for now. The next weeks will show if its helping
@@Jonathan-dc2op is it helping
@@SatyamKumar-cr7jd yea didnt notice anything now
Amazing video with so much knowledge. Thanks Doc!
if i lose hair im coming for you
Lol
I’m 30. Weight trained my whole life. Brother and dad are bald.
I’ve got long curly hair.
Stated taking creative 5G a day a few months ago. Massive gains but definitely thinning
Creatine is best supplement I ever use but damn that dht increase and hair loss fucked everything
thats a bummer man. did you take finasteride with the creatine?
Please create a video on the link between sugar/artificial sweetners/insulin spikes and hair loss
This!
it's genetic not food my father eats a lot of sweets hes 60 no hair loss no grey hairs
@@ivanmaksimovic163 we only talking about people who have MPB. People like your dad wouldnt be watching a youtube channel on hairloss. Sugar and more importantly insulin spikes have been shown to increase hairloss for those already genetically disposed to it
And glycation, which causes premature aging. You’ll be bulkier but your skin will look like a catcher’s mitt from all of that sugar.
Perfectly explained, thanks.
So its my Muscle growth which is also contributing to my baldness?
That's it. Go big and go Bald is the moto from now on
So how can one fight hair loss in this context of having genes for hair loss and working out?
taking 1mg finasteride a day like every guy with hair loss genes
@@marshmallowmann20 and maybe contract prostate cancer
@@sabindanny4965 so you can’t fight hair loss for now, simple
@@sabindanny4965 Finasteride reduces your risk for prostate cancer. It only increases the risk of having a high grade prostate cancer. But if you go for a full body checkup, once a year then it should not be an issue.
Question: If someone takes creatine and is also taking finasteride, could the creatine nullify/deminish/reduce the positive effects of the finasteride?
Yes mate, I did that for 4 years, no hair loss (I came from a family of heavy hair loss genetics). Finasteride 1g daily and creatine 5g daily
@@kronfle111 Thanks for the feedback 👍
@@kronfle111 yes as in you lost hair while in fin and working out?
@@HusseinAbdirahman i think he meant no as in he didnt lose hair but i think he kinda read the question wrong but has the right answer.
Deploy Topical Finasteride 0.1 or Topical Anti-Androgen like RU with minoxidil 5% every night also along with oral fin to achieve full blockage of DHT on scalp. I have 2 hard core gym freaks for friends, who are apparently on higher doses of TRT along with Creatine 6 grams a day, they haven't seen any recession in hairline yet with the routine i mentioned this despite being both their families being full of bald men.
I am 42 years old. My hair has been thinning and my hairline receding at a slow constant rate for years now. But I started taking creatine and I noticed a difference in just one month, thinner hair, more receding hairline. Is this a coincidence? I had read about this being a myth, but for the doubts I suspended my creatine intake.
How about we take creatine along with finasteride ?
Scientifically the experts say it’s a myth. BUT my best mate has been using it for the last 12 months or so and his hair loss has rapidly increased.
Maybe he’s just getting older
Wow 😂😂😂😂😂 yeah maybe @@Smoshylife
@@SmoshylifeSure buddy, you keep believing that. 🙄
@@Lionheart_He-Man well mine is more scientifically sound so
So if I do have the hair loss gene and Im taking finasteride and putting minoxidil, will taking creatine be an issue for me? Should I worry or consider not taking creatine in that case? Would my finasteride block the additional DHT produced if I do take creatine?
Same here bro
Have you ever found an answer for this? I would also like to know.
@@gary199c5 I haven't but have a dr appointment soon and if I have an answer will let you know
@@uwuzzzzz Thats great, I appreciate it 👍
@@uwuzzzzz do you have an answer??
Best explanation so far.
Hi Dr Vikram, I'm based in Australia and am interested in getting a scalp biopsy to measure scalp DHT. I've been using topical dutasteride that has been compounded. Whilst serum tests have shown it doesn't go systemic would really like to see what/if any effect it has on the scalp. Can you point me in the right direction?
I feel like a blood test looking at DHT & Testosterone levels could very easily measure systemic effects of dutasteride
Can o use creatine with finsteride???
I’ve been on and off creatine for 19 years now. Started lifting when i was 16 and now im 35. Still got a full head of hair so I doubt it causes hairloss. If it did I should be totally balled by now 😅
great video. thanks for clearing this up :)
I'm seeing tons of people saying that it speeds up hair loss
I just bought some, now I'm terrified to take it.
Same here... I bought creatine today and now I think I've just wasted money
Do not take it
bro so basically it still can speed it up/cause it
yea
Yep, in the doctor’s attempt at dismissing any CAUSE between Creatine and hair loss, he pretty much indirectly admitted ‘Yes’, there is a CAUSE/ACCELERATION
He means creatine acts as a catalyst to Hairloss who has the gene......if you will go horse-shoe in 60's with creatine and muscle building you go in 35 's.
So since my father lost his hair in his late 20s I should probably not use this right?
@@bradthomson3191 hair genes come from your mums side so look at grandfathers or uncles from her side
@@skenginmyblazer8190 really? Always mothers side?
@@bradthomson3191 I’m not 100% take creatine at ur own risk
@@bradthomson3191 no. It's an old wives tale. Hair loss genetics can come from either side of the family.
Great video and nice to answer straight away 👍🏼
Very informative! A question: does Toppik contain creatine?
Is it safe to drink creating, & finasteride at the same time?
I drink fish oil, Multivitamin, Creatin, whey Protein.
I have been having thinning hair.
And heard about keeps where it has minoxidil & Finasteride.
Idk if drinking all that affect 1 another. If I start drinking the finasteride.
i took creatine for a few months
and noticed a huge increase in hair loss which went after i stopped taking creatine
Did hair regrow?
Did it regrow?
Full male-pattern baldness here by age 16. I guess my question is, once the full male pattern baldness happens (none on top, only hair around the sides/back), will creatine/T->DHT somehow make me lose MORE?
@sandiegolivin Thanks, I appreciate the input. I am in my late late 20s now without much change in the MPB progress. I tried the full bald look, but shaving irritated my skin to the point it looked worse than just having the MPB lol, so I was hoping to avoid it.
so my question is, does creatine powder and protein powder itself also increase testosteron? and what i dont like is that u always leave out inflammation and dermatitis etc. that has so much influence if u also have mpb esp it makes the follicles weaker even faster and more and may have big impact on u trying to grow it back and stabalizing hair u still have etc. im just spitballing here
Also consider that small percentage of guys that are non responders to creatine, of which I am one; Zero gains and mild hair loss makes dumping creatine a no brainer. If you're not seeing results from up to 10g a day, save your hair
How can you know if you’re not responsive to it?
@@imanuel8883 one way is load up on it and see if you gain(mostly water) weight. Not a ton of weight, but enough that you certainly would notice. If not, you're probably a non responder. Responders also report noticeable strength gains.non responders notice nothing. 3 wks would probably be enough time for something to change if its going to...
you´re bald and you´re not training properly. Mystery solved. Creatine is not magic, it´s not gonna make you Hercules while you watch The Simpsons
Great video! A recurring theme I noticed in your videos is this "gene for hair loss". What gene exactly? As far as I know hair loss is influenced by the number of 5AR enzyme activity in your scalp/hair and your hair follicles' sensitivity to dht or the number of androgen receptors. Is that what you mean with genetic, or is there more to it?
Is topical melatonin worth using to fight hair loss? I've seen a small number of studies online indicating that topical melatonin can be used with relative success in treating hair loss?
Does dutasteride increase the chances for prostate cancer? Many thanks! Please please please answer this! Thank youuu
Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't all androgens cause hairloss? Cause theretically if dutasteride inhibits 90-99% of DHT then spiking testosterone shouldn't matter if you're blocking the testosterone from converting to DHT.
Yeah that's what the real question is ? I hope he come back on that. Moreover leave out on creatine does taking raw whey protein will effects my DHT and hair loss levels when I'm already taking 1mg of fin daily
@@greymind0072 tbh I wouldn't worry to much about creatine, whey protein powder or any legal supplement if you're taking fin
Yes testosterone causes miniturziation too
@@johann9623 I'm not disagreeing cause I personally think that statement is correct I'm just wondering if there's any studies backing these claims?
Hi doc. If I have genetic predisposition to pattern baldness and i take creatine, will my DHT still increase and speed up my hair loss even if Im taking Finasteride/Dutasteride? Will creatine affect the potency of the drug?
Hey have you tried it?
3:00 So... basically, working out causes hair loss...? I can't seem to find a definite answer of "does creatine cause hair loss." Some people say absolutely no way and the 2009 Rugby study doesn't hold-up (where they experienced higher DHT but they started with lower DHT). Some, like this, say no but it does elevate DHT which causes hair loss (if you have the gene, which is the new thing from this video).
All I know is that I don't have a single bald or 'balding' person in my family - not one. I've been lifting heavy all my life, been on creatine for the last eight years and about 1.5 years ago, I started seeing thin hair in spots. I started using the hair crap (the stupid helmet and the minoxidil) and I 'think' I've paused it and maybe getting slightly better.
But... I'm REALLY wanting to get back on creatine because my strength is way down. I'm 5'11" 185 and was benching 315, 325 max... and incline bench at 245. Now I'm down to 245 bench and 265 max, incline around 225, 235 max. I'm BEGGING for someone to say, "No, there's no link... get back on creatine." But, I can't seem to find that.
This doesn't make sense to me, yes if you don't have the gene you won't experience it at all but in a group of people who all have this gene, the ones using creatine are going to suffer more from hair loss in comparison, am I wrong?
Does taking Quercetin supplement cause a decrease in the efficacy of finasteride in blocking DHT?
Quercetin doesnt really have any solide evidence that it does anything to increase performance. Its more of an anti inflammatory just look at studies done on people who took quercetin. ( not a doctor just a circle dont listen to me.) Oh and no to ur question it doesnt sorry ranted a lil bit lol
Been working out my whole life so my testosterone is already high. But when I use creatine, I definitely go through a shedding phase. I've tested it on and off multiple times months apart. That's my experience.
You’re just more aware because you’re expecting it to cause hairless.
Your avi is bald tho
@@GokuPlaysUK my profile pic is a head full of hair
When you stop taking creative does your hair loss come back?
@@rg7917 yes
Ok, so I had a hair transplant aged 37 and now 40. I have the gene all be it a slower gene than those who lose it in their 20s. My brother and dad are both bald. I work out 4-5 times a week and want to build more muscle and love exercise but I don't take creatine due to worrying about it increasing more hair loss. I want to take creatine to help see the gains but feel it is a risk given how much I have already spent on my hair. What would your advice be in my position? My hair is more important than me building muscle but not seeing the results I would if I took creatine I know it.
And u started taking creatine?
So I should stop weightlifting and all kinds of exercises to avoid losing more hair... Damn...
Id rather stay in good shape and have confidence when I’m older than worry about hair loss just because I usually wear beanies and hats all the time anyways
but lifting> hair loss in my opinion
Of you get a hairtransplantation
Wanna be fat and out of shape with great hair or big and strong without hair?
@@trueredlucky954 Lol I would pick fatty but keep my hair
Vikram, what have you done to Russel?! Youre not friends anymore? :D
Russel is in a retirement home now :/
@@AjayPatel-so8zs what do you mean ? He's still not senile and not that old tbh, why he would be in a retirement home ?
@@vhyles he's about 100 bro. Let him enjoy his retirement
lel
Yeah there's more to this
Parents are not bald but have big foreheads, started taking creatine about 7 months ago and check out some progress pics, noticed my hair has gotten a lot thinner since
After how long your hair regrow how it was before ?
Very informative. Thank you.
im 20 years old taking creatine consistently from my 16 years of age and my family have hair loss genes i didnt lose hair at all for now. Comments scare me tho.
Great explanation ! thank you doc
Thank you. Simple & to the point. Question: I've suffered from Alopecia before (high stress situation) I was able to regrow all my hair but now after being on Creatine and muscle building for a year - my hair is starting to thin out again in the same areas that were affected years back. Should I stay off of creatine?
Did you take finasteride?
@@NoSkillsAllHax I did not..
@@simply_felix put the creatine off i was taking creatine 5 grams only for 7 days and already started thinning hard after putting creatine off my hair regrow again and lion volume cameback
@@skatetoy8214 how has your hair been since then??
@@skatetoy8214 cap
Ive never seen someone write something this satisfying on a whiteboard wtf
Indian's are so smart!Every corner of world..🫡
Yes broo 😂😂
say im already taking finasteride, will this essentially cancel out?
i would like to know as well
For me i believe it did. I was on 0.5mg fin for 2 years and basically was a nw2. Went on pre workout supplement that had creatine in it, and 3 months in i was shedding like mad. About 60 hairs a day and crazy itching. Complete diffuse thinning and lost almost 40% of my density. Took about 5 months off it to recover to 75% back. Still not 100% recovered yet. I may have been taking to much creatine because my whey protein isolate had creatine in it too. Now im off that too
@@thejokerwearspink8203 well u were on half the recommended dose. So I’m wondering if I start taking creatine and I’m currently on finasteride. Should I be concerned?
@@Diamondlight04 The only way to know is if you try it, i have no clue how you will react. For me it wasn't worth it.
@@thejokerwearspink8203 Had a very similar situation as you described. I was also working out, 4 days a week. Creatine was in both my pre / post. Noticed I was losing hair much faster during that period. I than reduced my creatine supplementation by switching to pure brands and started taking finastride. After 6 months, I noticed a huge improvement in my hair. Substantially less hairloss. Stability was the primary win here. I than switched back to a higher creatine dosage (mainly because I wanted to finish taking the sup's I bought previously) and noticed that the finastride was actually stabilizing my hair even with the increased creatine intake. So overall, I do believe creatine does increase hairloss. Finastride must also be taken for months prior before getting back into taking it. IMHO
Look at the study “ Three weeks of creatine monohydrate supplementation affects dihydrotestosterone to testosterone ratio in college-aged rugby players” they concluded creatine increases the conversion rate from testosterone to dht so it definitely causes hair loss
Other 10 studies conducted later has no match to this one,only study that created this myth
How is it a myth if it’s a fact that creatine increases dht levels? Dht is directly correlated to hair loss especially in people who are predisposed
They were also taking 20g of creatine which is kind of excessive lol
I love that this guy got straight to the point, said the answer and then why. Other TH-camrs dance around the video then end it with "So what do you think? Does creatine cause hair loss? Leave your thoughts in the comments and don't forget to like and subscribe. Until next time..."
What happens as men age for the body to start breaking down testosterone and therefore increasing DHT? When men are young (late teens to 20s) they have the most testosterone they'll ever have but almost no one goes bald at this stage of their life.
Since starting to workout (weightlifting) I've noticed my hair falling off quicker
Same, is it because of creatine?
@@Awsme same here bro i dont have any genes of hairloss i am 100% sure this happened due to the MB creatine i was taking and stopped due to bloating issue but today i noticed a empty patch on scalp, i literally freaked out now i know it was because of creatine, will it regrow as i stopped to use it please let me know if yes the hair will regrow.
@@Awsme you just said 2 days before, just tell me what is the type of hairloss you have is it pattern type like patches of hairfall at a certain place on head equals a coin in area specifically?
Creatine does not affect hair loss. If your hairline is receding it's your genetics. My hairline has started to reced a bit when I was 21. I'm 27 now have been taking creatine for the past 3 years and my hair line stayed the same since I was 21-22.
I workout and i don t use creatine i use protein and my hair is still falling
GREAT ROC vikram !!!
explained precisely to the point.
I have experienced this practically when using creatine!!
When i go off creatine hairfall declines!!