Imagine if they removed her AP scalings and instead gave her E armor shred, this would encourage to cast it before R and add to the small support niche she fills without having to wait for cleaver and her ult... Besides actually dealing damage with E to compensate for the big mana drain.
Lumi, you should do a Zont Zo It video on Taliyah support! Some people on the Taliyah subreddit think it's great but personally I think it's a flop. My League of Legends game sense isn't the best so I want to see how you would articulate it! Even if it's not a full-blown video, would love your response on it!
I also can't think properly if I'm listening to music while playing. I don't know how others can do that:D I also like to hear the sounds of the game and with music, it is harder to pay attention to that too.
I think one of the biggest problems with your build was the expectation that full ap is what makes me good. That’s not the point, rather she has all these ap abilities that can apply the effects from items, which is why a hybrid build is better. What I would do is liandry’s and rylais for the early game e damage, and then black cleaver into mortal reminder. That way she becomes more viable near the end. This sets up your e ult combo into an after effect master for your team to follow up on
Honestly... I love MF support but I build AD. I go with Manamune, Galeforce, Stormrazor, and Serylda's Grudge. It has major objective-stealing potential, luv it.
I think part of the appeal is mf has cute skins and an easy kit that's fun to play. Plus, her e slow *looks* like it's doing a lot,, even though hard cc is MUCH better (like a leona or literally any hook champ lmao). I like doing ap mf in troll games, like aram if my team has all AD somehow or in urf when nothing matters; it's funny and tilting to get killed by an AP mf, so that's probably why people want it to work.
Hi Lumi!! I suggest you go and try twitch support, it is so rubbish, it does nothing to their own ad(c), no cc, no protection. It is just completely rubbish in my opinion. I suggest you try it so that you could make a video with the title: Twitch support is bad don't do it. I just don't understand twitch support, can anyone explain too? 真的看不下去
Lumi can you pleas try out lissandra support? It's my build :-) and I think she's super strong. You're going aftershock with font of life and you'll build Imperial and then staff of flowing water. trust me this is so good, you can proc the font of life and imperial with all her abilities, except her E.
well full ap mf isn't good anymore, due to it being nerfed multiple times, mage miss fortune mid was a thing since like season 4 to season 7, but i think it main bit of popularity was in season 5 and 6, and if ya think about, where do a lot mages end up, if they fail at solo lanes like mid, ye, support... i loved playing mf support before season 10 happened (new support items are trash), and i barely ever went full ap, my core items were lindary (it very good poke item, and due to it burn it still gives value to her ad abilties) and black cleaver, then it was just build for wut ever ya are vs, which is normally just ad stacking for ult, e meant to be used as a poke early, and pokes before a team fight breaks out, slows and for zoning, then r for outranging certain annoying champs (example zyra, which we seen at worlds) , ult to protect/cutoffs and teamfights... hybrid is much better option than ap mf in my opinion, gives her e damage while having ult damage, and btw with season 11 items, mamamune may be able to replace the need for ap item on mf supps that heavy poke with e, cause its passive applies damage on ability hits, so works on e... (they plan to revert the nerf that made it only work on physical damage abilties, and nerf the damage it does instead)
The only place where ap mf is somewhat decent imo is in aram vs certain teams where you have enough ad damage in the team as it is and/or the enemy team comp makes it very difficult for you to aa consistently
I don't think AP MF is good, I just find it fun. Her weakness is just that she takes way too long and way too much gold to be borderline decent,which is sad cause it's pretty fun
I just came to hear the "WOW THE DAMAGE"
Same HAHAHAHAHA
@yeji ponytail I have no idea honestly I just remember it from the stream lol
30:28
Lol is this during Janna mid? XD
LUMI POSTING A WHOLE MOVIE IS JUST SO SATISFYING ILYSM!!
YES GIRLIE WE HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THISSSS ZONT ZO IT
Thanks queen Lumi, I've seen many support/ap MFs that say "ItS gOoD yOu jUSt DonT kNow hOw iT WorKs"
@a a same!! i love being fast and poke-y!
@a a It is good u are just bad at the game
Imagine if they removed her AP scalings and instead gave her E armor shred, this would encourage to cast it before R and add to the small support niche she fills without having to wait for cleaver and her ult... Besides actually dealing damage with E to compensate for the big mana drain.
Seeing lumi play anything still makes me wanna play it lmao
so happy that you finally got the league partner ship program!
She didnt use the outro from that one sound cloud remix
Lumi, you should do a Zont Zo It video on Taliyah support! Some people on the Taliyah subreddit think it's great but personally I think it's a flop. My League of Legends game sense isn't the best so I want to see how you would articulate it! Even if it's not a full-blown video, would love your response on it!
I also can't think properly if I'm listening to music while playing. I don't know how others can do that:D I also like to hear the sounds of the game and with music, it is harder to pay attention to that too.
DO ZONT ZO IT LISS SUPPORT , AFTERSHOCK FONT OF LIFE, IMPERIAL AND STAFF OF FLOWING WATER
Omg i love your videos because they are sooo long , i love using your videos as a podcast while i play some MMORPG , love you
LIVING for the 1 hour video ms thang❤️💅🏼 thank youuu
I think one of the biggest problems with your build was the expectation that full ap is what makes me good. That’s not the point, rather she has all these ap abilities that can apply the effects from items, which is why a hybrid build is better. What I would do is liandry’s and rylais for the early game e damage, and then black cleaver into mortal reminder. That way she becomes more viable near the end. This sets up your e ult combo into an after effect master for your team to follow up on
Gahhh, another mistake lol. Meant to say full ap/ad
"Zon't get cocky" lmao... ly lumi
This won't stop me from playing it queen 💕 Especially when for some of it u were kinda feeding on purpose
Yesssss, I love how long the video isss
I’m already loving the ZONT ZO IT series 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻
"WOOOOW THAT DAMAGE" LMAO LUMI PLEASE
This Kindred going Immortal Shieldbow instead of Kraken Slayer against a Mundo I can't !
OMG Lumi, I loved "Zont Zo It" serie. Please do more, I will love you forever. Zont Zo it...
I wanna see u try Evelynn
Congrats on getting into the League Partnership Program Lumi! 💕
Honestly... I love MF support but I build AD. I go with Manamune, Galeforce, Stormrazor, and Serylda's Grudge. It has major objective-stealing potential, luv it.
a 2nd adc then
Black Cleaver is even better now, u can proc with magic damage aswell if u have manamune or rav hydra.
I think part of the appeal is mf has cute skins and an easy kit that's fun to play. Plus, her e slow *looks* like it's doing a lot,, even though hard cc is MUCH better (like a leona or literally any hook champ lmao). I like doing ap mf in troll games, like aram if my team has all AD somehow or in urf when nothing matters; it's funny and tilting to get killed by an AP mf, so that's probably why people want it to work.
PLS THE 16 ADS love it get that bag sis
drink everytime someone in the chat says "not the_"
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS !!! LUV U LUMI ❣️❣️
THE ONE HOUR VIDEO IS SUCH A SERVE OMG
30:26 “dat damage 🥵🥵”
I know it’s hot garbage lol I love how Lumi talks about things and describes them 😂❤️ “It’s a flop”
Loving this zont zo it series!!
Hi Lumi!! I suggest you go and try twitch support, it is so rubbish, it does nothing to their own ad(c), no cc, no protection. It is just completely rubbish in my opinion. I suggest you try it so that you could make a video with the title: Twitch support is bad don't do it. I just don't understand twitch support, can anyone explain too? 真的看不下去
Lumi can you pleas try out lissandra support? It's my build :-) and I think she's super strong. You're going aftershock with font of life and you'll build Imperial and then staff of flowing water. trust me this is so good, you can proc the font of life and imperial with all her abilities, except her E.
Oh my goood lumi, can u try ivern support for this zon't zo it series???? 😲😲😲😲
I love your sweater and lipstick color combo
yasss we stan Lumi coming for NickiMinaj’s gig
Lumi u shud put the outro song of the zon zoit series "wow look at that damage"
well full ap mf isn't good anymore, due to it being nerfed multiple times, mage miss fortune mid was a thing since like season 4 to season 7, but i think it main bit of popularity was in season 5 and 6, and if ya think about, where do a lot mages end up, if they fail at solo lanes like mid, ye, support... i loved playing mf support before season 10 happened (new support items are trash), and i barely ever went full ap, my core items were lindary (it very good poke item, and due to it burn it still gives value to her ad abilties) and black cleaver, then it was just build for wut ever ya are vs, which is normally just ad stacking for ult, e meant to be used as a poke early, and pokes before a team fight breaks out, slows and for zoning, then r for outranging certain annoying champs (example zyra, which we seen at worlds) , ult to protect/cutoffs and teamfights... hybrid is much better option than ap mf in my opinion, gives her e damage while having ult damage, and btw with season 11 items, mamamune may be able to replace the need for ap item on mf supps that heavy poke with e, cause its passive applies damage on ability hits, so works on e... (they plan to revert the nerf that made it only work on physical damage abilties, and nerf the damage it does instead)
The only place where ap mf is somewhat decent imo is in aram vs certain teams where you have enough ad damage in the team as it is and/or the enemy team comp makes it very difficult for you to aa consistently
the kindred is my friend lmaooo
Waiting for the ahri support ❤. Idc how bad it is i love it 😀
Unironically playing this game.... ZONT ZO IT
JJ rly is so fucking funny sjjs
Zon’t Zo It ep2: Heimerdinger AD
The only time I have played AP MF is in ARAM - given how that mode works, it wasn’t awful. (Certainly not optimal, though LOL)
now it's time for miss ori..
Lumi how about Ashe support zon't zo it? I would looove to watch you diss it out of my "hurr durr everything is a support" brain lmaooo
I do ap with crit for on hit procs for aupport and max e for the slow..
The way B*zzleB*rry started playing troll supports to show how bad they were when you’ve been doing the Zon’t Zo It series this whole time....
👁👄👁 *clearly sees that its a zont*
Also me: *Boots up league to try MF support.* 🤣🤣💀🙈
Ap mf used to be a thing after her small rework and they nerfed her ap ratios on her E btw lumi. That was a looong time ago tho
omg queen of supports...
They nerfed the fuck out of her e base damage, it practically does 0 damage u.u
WHAAAAA YASSSS 1HR+ VIDEO FROM OUR QUEEN 🥰 IM FLOATINGGGGG
What song is jj singing?? 😷
I don't think AP MF is good, I just find it fun. Her weakness is just that she takes way too long and way too much gold to be borderline decent,which is sad cause it's pretty fun
Moonstone Ashe please queen🌟
ZONT ZO IT GIRLIES
and hour long yessss
okay but what about ap ashe support with guardian, font of life, and imperial mandate?👀
ZON'T ZO IT
Zont zo it
poor Lohpally
I guess it's just because she's a good player and could make any support look good... But now I just wanna go ap mf support xD
ZONT ZO ITTT
Ik it’s hot garbage but it’s so relaxing to play tbh
It's funny how you even have to prove that MF sup doesn't work, it's so obvious to me and I'm just a bronze player lmao.
he bullies me for being short :')
Pretty sure most ap MFs came from aram 👀
I think it's more from URF cause that's kinda the only way she kinda works cause of the cdr being so low
Nunu Support?
Imperial mandate works.
There are so much ashe support with imperial mandate in Taiwan server, so annoying and useless
Ashe support ? Zon’t zo it !!
A Rainha Luminum ♥️♥️amo :3
Why is the minimap not working alright
she covered it to prevent people from ghosting which is watching someone else's stream while you're in the same game as them to get an advantage
@@lizardp ooh, thank you
An hour video? Is this a gift from the gay gods?
do da zoe supp c:
I feel like .. its just the slow is why it makes her "strong" supp
with the way it lasts?? strong is a,,, strong word dksksk
kalista is support i said wat i said
is it the abilities such as vision and saving your adc? ngl it crossed my mind lolol
Final judgement for Miss Fortune Support: such a Misfortune so Zont Zo It!
these videos are so long now lmao
lumi's moan always makes me flip my chair T_T
omg 1 hr long 🤤🤤
Lumi is an LGBT icon. You can fight and sue me. I dare you all.
Lumi, I love you and Im glad you hype your friends up... but JJ needs to sing on his own time
JJ is so good at singing, such an icon!
@@zulapeeps3532 ooof, umm. What's the saying, two tone deaf birds of the same feather, flock together
Uwu or owo
lol mf supp is actually fun to play,, her poke with e actually deal a nice amount of damage. u're just not good at playing her :>