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W for the mom who defended her son
99% of these could easily result in schools being sued. Zero Tolerance opens up schools to lawsuits.
Ironically, zero tolerance was their way of trying to cover their own asses.
This. I want to know where are the parents? What kind of cop doesn't recognize French or at least the school admin present that wouldn't be able to verify that fact? I'd be sending the school the ambulance and ER bill and suing them.
Facts and the school would lose the lawsuit
i wanna bomb story 14's school
I'm in no doubt the Principal who made the mistake of angering an already angry Mama Bear was quickly shoved under the bus by the District...
zero tolerance is just a way for a school to get around saying they don't like kids & don't want to deal with them. I consider them also an admission of favoring bullies over victims. and with that one on electronics, I'd either demand the phone back or demand they pay the bill for the remainder of the year, lest I report them for stealing it. if you're going to take & keep it, but expect me to keep paying for it, I'm taking that to the authorities.
Technically the parents would have to sue if they are denied access. They own it. If we are talking about America
Just to describe how much such stuff would anger me inside my head (The thoughts I'd have about those device stealign idiots, in terms of gettign rid of them.):
Tbh... at some point, I'd 100% surelly would attempt to bite those device stealing, and seemingly demodernizational raiders, but so hard, on the neck or the belly... how it could cause them a near fatal wound. Or maybe when I finally lose it... I take to school an empty glass bottle, and a kitchen knife... and rip and tear~. I would have to go insane for that to happen.
@@SiskaweshKsutaraden also for the autism kid thing thats a violation of Americans with Disabilites Act so if she wanted to she could sue the school bankrupt over millions of dollars for violating that
Story 11 was the dictionary definition of theft.
Oh that is devious, and to think that they couldn’t do a darn thing.
I think I physically lost braincells by these zero tolerance policies
Hopefully you didn’t lose as many as the staff
Zero tolerance= zero common sense
Congratulations! You've now passed the interview questions for writing ZT policies!
I swear getting a frontal lobotomy is a prerequisite in becoming a school admin these days.
Same
Is no one gonna talk about the fact that on story 13 someone literally said their mom didn’t have their side wanted them to get arrested and most likely their friend or their friends brother is the reason why they were possibly about to get arrested
I know!!! God I don't know if I could be able to forgive my mom for that, even if you are 100% innocent it is NEVER a good idea to be interrogated without a legal advocate, also??? She lives with him, what the hell made her think he could have prepared a massacre behind her back? The mom is clearly not as bright as her son
And the fact that the cops didn't know what French looks like. Sure, I don't know French, but I know enough to be able to pick it out of the common languages in North America.
I was thinking about that too. That person has the worst mom and the worst friends. Imagine being that much of a asshat
@@Musical_Pigeones, but in their mind they thought it was a code based off French. Nowhere near as insane as all the other crap.
I don't even think it should be legal to waive the rights of a minor, even your own child.
like god you dont want them arested well you shouldn't its your kid
Story 13: I have a theory that the mom hates her son for some reason, so she looking for a way to get rid of him. So the moment she heard her son was accused of that, she just went with it. "Evil" would be an understatement here.
Story 14: Wow, not only did the principal make the kid shake hands with the bully and threatened suspension, she straight up said to the mom's face that her son's "annoying" behavior is the fault here. I don't blame her for pulling the principal by the shirt for the sheer audacity.
I would have done a lot more to that principal that I would need the cops to pull me off her! I wouldn't mind going to jail on an assault charge! I would be going into mama bear mode!
For story 14 I hope the mom landed the punch
I gotta agree with you, story 14 principal did ask for it
Never understood the fear of butter knives that schools have, fr a fork is more deadly
Pencils are deadlier...
@@Ctar99n only if you're Keanu Reeves. Pencilsare way more brittle than forks.
@@sebastianb.3978 Brittle does not equal less deadly. A weapon that can potentially splinter and have shards get lodged in the wound severely complicates things.
there is some butter knives out there that are sharp enough to cut meat in half
@@neiltymarville2714 it would take like 30 seconds to actually do damage to a person tho. 30 seconds is enough to get caught.
If some little a****** kid shoved my kid down the stairs which resulted in them getting seriously injured and said kid got off scot-free and when I confronted the principal and they said to me "well if your kid hadn't of been so annoying maybe it wouldn't have happened" I'd be going to prison with zero regrets.
If any teacher pulls that shit on me I will put an expiry date on their godamn life
@@fivepainbbles wanna be cell mates?
Make sure to go for the eyes followed by the ears
@@notproductiveproductions3504 oh no I'm going for the throat
Being expelled for prescription drugs. That is a lawsuit the school district lost before it even hit the court room.
All the fighting stories reminded me of one of my fathers high-school stories. He was being picked on by a small group of boys and one day one of them physically attacked him and they both where sent to the principals office. The principal told my father if he stood up for his self that the other boys would not pick on him. Now my grandfather did not believe in fighting under any condition so my father did not want to get into trouble getting into a fights at school. Well the next time that one of the boys tried something my father royally kicked his butt. Well of course he was sent to the principals office and ended up being suspended for fighting. Well my grandfather went to the schools principals office and really tore into the principal for suspending my father for fighting after telling him to defend his self. Well the suspension only lasted to the end of the day as my father had already went home for the day. Nether fights where on his school record as my grandfather made sure the principal had them removed.
That is one good ass grand dad
your grandpa sounds awesome.
I remember getting in trouble for having my inhaler with me at a military school until my flight (homeroom) teacher stood up for me and explained it's use to the other staff. Also- my dad's rule with fights is if someone starts a fight you've gotta be prepared to finish it and if you get punished for defending yourself you'd get snacks.
That only happened once and even then, the worst I got was in school lunch detention.
@@Majora404err01r I never met him as he was killed of malpractice from a dentist who gave him a prescription drug that was fatal with other prescriptions my grandfather was taking from a doctor that the dentist never bothered to see if it would have any negative affects. The dentist was actually practicing dentistry without a license as his license was revoked from another state for malpractice. This was in the 1960s, even today 99.999% of people never even see the doctor's license to practic medicine or dentist's license to practic dentistry that is required to be on the wall in plain sight of anyone who walks into their office. Do you actually know if that doctor or dentist has a valid license who may be prescribing you posable fatal drugs?
My dad went to the same secondary school as I did and he was bullied. One day, he got so annoyed of his bully that he literally threw the jerk into a locker and slammed the door on him. He was left alone. Somehow, my grandparents were told by the direction that he was an angel at school and they learned the truth only after he graduated even though he was a troublemaker. I'm not even kidding, he never got in trouble even though he traumatized a few nuns and brothers! He even hit a boy's head with a thick brick of a Bible because he pushed his desk into my dad's tummy for one time he shouldn't have done and the nun was scandalized. I think part of why my grandparents learned the truth only after he graduated was because my grandma doesn't have her tongue in her pocket and she's all bite, no bark.
My high school had a "no hats" rule. Apparently because it makes it harder to see faces on the security cameras of our less than 800 students school. A friend of mine wore this cute headband one day that had a tiny tophat on it. Tiny meaning that it was smaller than her fist. She got in trouble for wearing a hat. Saw her later on that day and she had ripped off the tophat, because she needed to have something to keep her hair out of her face but didn't want detention and/or suspension.
I would never had ripped the Top hat that teacher legally has to deal with hats
Mine has a clear pencil case rule-
I can't be the only one who only clicked on this because of Bakugou, right?-
@@Leavemealoneheh we have a clear pencil case rule but no body really enforced it
@@Leavemealoneheh same
no hats is just a rule here no coats hats or hood i tell my parents "well you can hide drugs guns and wepons in the coat" i dont think a gun is gonna go in a coat also were in 5th grade were not getting drugs
Fighting. Period. Whether you fight back or not. One kid got expelled for getting punched in the face. He didn't fight back or anything, and it was his first ever time getting in trouble in any way. The school didn't care one bit and kicked him out. The kid who actually started the fight got off with no punishment because his mom basically owned the school board. Now the policy among students is "If I'm getting expelled anyways, I'm giving them a reason to expel me." It is not uncommon to see an entire hallway shut down because two students got into a fight and destroyed everything in the area around them during it.
And that's the problem with zero tolerance. It doesn't solve the problem, it just makes it so kids are going to go to the extreme to make the punishment worth it.
These zero tolerance stories is why you should never listen to the teacher
Your command of the English language does prove that you never listened to your teachers…
@@kristineguetschow9134 i always have listened to my teacher unless if they act like a Karen like in these stories
@@kristineguetschow9134 If you can understand them then why do you care?. I have a learning disability myself so learning grammar is pretty much impossible but you can obviously understand what is being written right?.
@@kristineguetschow9134 Bro not everyone is a american kid that speaks only 1 language.. I speak 4 languages so my grammar could be bad?
ikr
Not Zero Tolerance but I was pulled out of class to talk to a CPS worker when I was 15 (freshman year) because someone overheard me talking about how I babysit my little sister with special needs after school until my parents get home, if I remember correctly she's about 2 years behind developmentally, She was 4 at the time. I mentioned how when I have to use the bathroom I lock the BABYGATE to keep my sister in the living room (the safest room in the house), with snacks so I could use the bathroom and not have to worry about her getting into something or bothering me in the bathroom. The lock on the bathroom door could be unlocked with a butterknife and she could and would grab one to burst into the bathroom. Or if she didn't do that she'd bang on the door and yell at me until I came out, I had major bathroom anxiety as a middle and high schooler so it'd would leave me stuck in there trying to go.
We were old a concerned parent of a [high school's name} student left a tip that I was locking my special needs little sister in a closet when I didn't want to deal with her.
The house was checked to see if we had any closets that could lock (none locked, none would fit her because they were mostly for storage), and according the my step mom the case worker was a massive bitch to her. Then I was pulled out of my Spanish class to sit in the nurses office and talk to the case worker. Some of the questions were obviously leading questions like they wanted me to say just the right thing to get in trouble (I was 15, not stupid) and they deemed that I'm a perfectly fine well intentioned older sibling that just has really shy bowels and actually like to spend time their her little sister (I watched so many preschool cartoons with her, those things are like crack but as entertainment. I can't tell you how often I yelled at Team Umizumi).
Later I found out that my friend and her siblings (just the girls though) were being seggually assulted by their dad and CPS did nothing about it. Only after my friend's sewerslide attempt did the courts listen and grant an order of protection for her, her siblings, and mom.
I fucking hate CPS and little can convince me to trust them.
About 8 years later my parents have since moved, my sister is doing well and flips between seeing me as the best sister ever and so annoying.
from what ive seen, CPS only really seems to try to do their job when they think they can get money/clout out of a case, otherwise the subject gets the finger
Story 13: I lived through that exact same situation when I was in high school myself in rural NC. Got dragged out the school by a SWAT team days after the Columbine Shooting happened.
In my sophomore year of high school I got kind of a rep for being a pyro because I talked about how I knew how to make homemade fireworks. I never brought anything to school or got in any legal trouble for it, but the rumor mill gave me enough of a rep that the principle tried to lean on me for it. Nothing came of that because I didn't brake any laws or rules.
Two years later though the Columbine shooting happens and a week after that I find myself being physically dragged out of welding class by guys with shotguns. I never once had any sort of discipline issues and was even a member of the vocational honor society. But someone remembered that I had got in trouble in my sophomore more year and hit the proverbial panic button. Police raided my family's house and found nothing other than a BB gun and the school immediately expelled me even without cause other than the rumor.
My father didn't take that lying down though and he himself called up a lawyer and hammered the school board a threat of lawsuit. After three days and the police finding nothing the school board relented and I was allowed to come back to school after a week but with a requirement to speak to a 3rd part concealer once a week for the rest of the school year and I lost my honor society award because of the suspension.
So happy I don't live in america. I got some sucky s hool stories of my own but... Jesus Christ
I would had sued the police
@@og_3rd_st_saint_gat The police have wide immunity from being sued. If anything it would have been better to sue the school board.
But I was a minor and didn't have much say in these things. Otherwise I would have at least tried
@@dogofwar6769 true but the judge can revoke that if it was unlawful also I checked something you could have a say on it according to the law minors can sue
4:21 that’s disgusting wtf, disabled people get the worst treatment by the school district and anyone who did that to the girl as well as the teacher should be put and jail
12:19 this reiterates my point
Also one of my online friends almost got suspended for writing a polite email to the school staff for making a board in support of Autism Speaks which is like a really bad autism charity that did very bad things. -_-
I went through the special needs educational system throughout my life, in the UK, during the 90s/2000s. My parents had to move for me to get a decent education. Also, I got thrown in a taxi at age 6 to get to a "local" special school it's gotten a bit better now, and special needs students can mingle with "normal" students in schools depending on how low or high functioning they're on their disability
Autism speaks is basically like PETA but for humans
@@skootergirl22 I'm glad it's better now
“Hey could you please not support this really bad charity? There’s a lot of thing wro-“
“HOW DARE YOU”
@@fivepainbbles fr tho
It's crazy how over half of these responses to the kids are highly illegal...
Schools really don't care about that.
These stories make me so happy I was homeschooled until college. The school system, specifically principles and teachers, horrendously abuse their power. 🤦♂️😤
Homeschooled? That means your parents were teaching you everything that children learn in basic and secondary school? That is forbidden in my country... Basic and secondary education is mandatory, and no homeschooling, first because no parent can know everything that all those separate teachers and professors know. Sure, one can know good one area, one science, maybe two, but no parents can substitute basic and especially secondary education. Second, how does the state control parents? They can start "teaching" their children religion, or to be more correct they can impose religious indoctrination. In my country, two things are strictly forbidden in schools, drugs, and religion...I guess because both have the same effect on the brain and capacity for rational thinking.
And that about principles and teachers abusing their power is nonsense. Can't parents do that, abuse their power? But who can report parents if they do that? If some principal or teacher is abusing his "power" that one can be reported and action can be taken.
Homeschooling is a totally illogical thing in a state that claims that it is secular.
Homeschooling is totally the way to go. You can see how some totalitarian countries brainwash their citizens to be total Karens that go on a rant about it.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 so are you for or against homeschooling??
@@ozymandiasultor9480 Your rants prove government-funded schools are no better at improving one's capacity for rational þinking þan you're implying homeschooling is.
@@Something125_ Against homeschooling, of course.
My school had a no fighting rule, to the point where if you get shoved, you are suspended for fighting. It was an average day and i was playing soccer at recess, when the enemy team got a free kick, so naturally I stepped out of bounds and stood at a point that wouldnt disrupt a kick at all. The fattest kid on the enemy decided to pick a fight though, and he walked up to me, told me to quote "Move my fat _ _ _ out of the way, then shoved me into the brick wall surrounding the school i went to. My skull cracked and started bleeding, then a teacher came over, grabbed the fat kid AND ME by the ear, while i was still BLEEDING FROM THE SKULL. They took me to a meeting room, and basically said, because i "Was caught in a fight" I would be getting a 2 week suspension, plus I got banned from recess for the rest of the skull year. The worst part about this was that the kid who attacked me got the exact same punishment as me, the only difference being that they weren't allowed on the field trip for the 5th grade (He was fifth grade, I was fourth)
How much was the medical bill?
That is unfortunate
@@ked49 I'm not sure, like I said, I was fourth grade, and when a fourth grader bleeds from his skull, they aren't asking their parents how much whatever they did costs (not sure if it was stitches, staples, or bandages)
I would had sued the school
My mom would've SUED THE HELL OUR OF IT I would have a broken skull in a mansion 😎
We had a zero tolerance policy but the high-school principle knew me so I never had it used against me. However, another got suspended for defending me. I was in a smelting class and I had metal shavings thrown at me and was called so many awful names. The oldest in the class saw this and welded everyone's projects together except for mine. He got a 2 day suspension for destruction of school property. The superintendent refused to listen to me when I was defending the guy. The guy who defended me said don't worry about it he was going to wear this as a badge of honor because "no one messes with my little sister's friend". That meant a great deal to me
That guy's such a homie
You weren't just a friend to him, you were basically family.
Story 11: Dude, the school staff realize they can be sued for that right? Taking the phones of students and not giving them back until the end of the school year is theft.
Of course, but because it hasn't happened to them (and probably never will), they will continue to believe they are some sort of ultra powerful gods that can do whatever they want. That's it.
School staff rarely gets punished for doing these things
@@TheCatIsComing Not unless someone with the money threatens the school to report them for theft unless they hand every single phone back to each student.
Yeah and whoever steals their phone the student has a right to take it back by force
Imagine zero tolerance for electronics with medical devices tho
not this but similar: there are a number of stories where a teacher or other school staff try to confiscate diabetes pumps, and one where a teacher cut the tube because she thought it was the student trying to sneakily use their headphones in class by putting it under their shirt
💀
How to get sued
11:09 Wow, what a gross mom not even attempting to give her kid an attorney.
Worse, she actively prevented him from having an attorney, and she went out of her way to tell the police to arrest him, all because these other fuckers lied about him
Die in a hole is what il say to that failed excuse of a parent.
My theory is that the mom absolutely *DESPISED* OP for whatever reason and she's looking for any reason she can to get rid of him. When she heard her son got accused of this, she just went with it and went out of her way to tell the police to arrest OP. I heard of evil mothers, but this so-called "mom" gets the award for "Worst mother of the century". Absolutely disgusting to not defend your kid and hates his guts for some reason.
I got suspended for a day back in grade 10 (US) because a guy who liked picking on me literally blocked the door to class so I'd be late all while the teacher was watching. I was actually bigger than this guy, but had a rep for being a wimp despite being literally the biggest guy in my class. That day, I snapped and just shoved him right into the titled concrete floor with my full weight (225lbs at the time). He got a bloody nose and NEVER tried anything like that again, but I was the only one who got in trouble because I was the one that pressed my whole weight against him like a freaking sumo.
You should post that on the subreddit tbh
This. This is absolute proof that schools have ZERO interest in stopping bullying.
My and my friend group would CONSTANTLY get in trouble for the dumbest shit. A lot of it had absolutely 0 evidence. While I will admit we were trouble makers, and I know that some of them were like me and thought "If I'm going to get in trouble anyway, may as well do the crime". I have numerous stories about bullshit suspensions, expulsions and detentions.
One that really come to mind that fit the questions happened to the same friend. One day, while walking from the athletic department back to class, friend was goofing around and did the whole "double finger pistols" and winked one of our female friends. She laughed, we laughed, everything was fine. BUT, a teacher had driven by us or something and claimed that the finger pistols were aimed at him as he was driving. Friend was suspended for "threatening a teacher"
*_Ahhh, the powertrip!!!_*
Suspended for charisma
I once had a group project on the American Revolution (specifically the Battle of Concord, Lexington, Yorktown, Bunker Hill, and both Saratogas). In this group, there were three people. Me, the absolute geek and know-it-all who surprisingly never gave a shit unless I had to; Lacey Zimmerman, who was basically the same as I was, but did care. Then there was Ayden Brown, who did pretty much nothing in the entire slideshow. Since that Ayden did terribly while we were flawless, the teacher assumed we simply didn’t help Ayden, when he willingly was outright lazy. As a result, Lacey and I got a D minus while Ayden got a C plus. I was so pissed off that I scolded Ayden as if I were a parent (I had no idea I could do that) and he somehow turned the blame on me. I came out with one piece of advice: When you can punch, punch hard.
Now, I am still the nerd I was then, but I learned how to deal with irritating situations in a different way: breaking into levels
Level 1: Unintentionally Insulting / Misunderstanding - You should just brush it off, but you will definitely want to explode
Level 2: Insult - Verbal insults are just solved by getting attention without looking rude, if fail, move to Level 5
Level 3: Damage - if you are on the soft side, move to Level 2; if you are like me (you initial instinct to be to curse at them), you should move to Level 4
Level 4: Personal Damage - This includes: the breaking of body, glasses, possessions. I’m not joking when I say this, you will likely get the same punishment for dealing with it and not doing anything, so I seriously recommend to *punch them,* no remorse
Level 5: Twisters - This includes people who do unfair things (like blaming their action onto you). If the person is a peer, move to Level 4. If not, negotiate. If negotiations fail, you will have a grudge or forget about it over time.
That one story: W mom. Stand up for your children, especially in the most unjust situations.
I would have never thought that such a nerdy hobby mine such as halflife mapping would ever be referenced in one of these videos, hell, I have even mapped stuff out watching these videos, crazy stuff.
If a bully cannot manipulate adults or rigidly enforced rules or cannot fly circles around people who chose to become school administrators, they aren't very good bullies and are unlikely to be a problem for their victims. If "just telling an adult" about extensive abuse and harassment worked, there would be no abuse or harassment.
people wonder why teenagers are "rebellious" against adults, but these are the adults that control their lives:
When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right. :)
I am an avid knuckle cracker. I got pulled out of class once it talk about my “threatening of other students” and if “there was anything happening at home that is like this”. Bro, knuckle cracking feels good ok? I was genuinely confused and it was my first time having to overtake a conversation to ask what the FUCK is going on
16:54 yet another reason why school makes kids depressed
In my high school, there was a "Zero Tolerance" policy on bullying, but it was whoever yelled first that got into more trouble. That policy always had me in trouble with my teachers for "Yelling" at my bullies when they always picked on me, which made worse with time as I had an extremely difficult time coping with bullying and had an unhealthy coping mechanism of raising my voice to mask how much I was hurt by the bullying. Every time this happened, they all get a slap on the wrist while I was the one being reprimanded and that being autistic isn't an excuse to yell, funny the teachers usually say that as the bullies were picking on me for that exact reason. The bastards got more creative in how best get me in trouble. Ended up with a bad case of social anxiety and some form of depression and bad trust issues after graduating from there. They also considered me a "problem child" despite others in my year level being violent assholes because of my "yelling"
Funny how my school also turned a blind eye to people getting kicked/punched unless someone was beaten up badly
If there is zero tolerance for bullying, don’t go down without a fight.
I have one: In the year of our lord 2008 we were still wearing Japanese style black gakuran as our highschool uniform, with the neck collars completely covering up to the base of our necks. But for some reason we had shirts, waist coat looking sleeveless sweater and neck ties inside the black outerwear, the tie and sweater being mandatory.
Every morning, disciplinary teachers would guard the gate with senior students and check for our ties and stuff. If we didn't have them for whatever reason: forgot the laundry or just couldn't find them during morning rush, we would have to assume pushup positions in front of the gate while hundreds of fellow students passed by.
When it was time or if there were too many dress code offenders on their fours in front of the gate, disciplinary teacher would let us go, but not before beating our asses literally with whatever weapon they had brought: simple sticks to sometimes, I kid you not, a full-sized wooden katana or aluminum baseball bat.
If we were caught late, we had to run up to our classrooms, because my school was in the middle of a mountain slope, so we couldn't scale the walls to avoid these pricks without risking our lives, and most importantly, the guard teacher dismissed us when it was one or two minutes before class so we would be late unless we ran like that 'fast as fucboi' meme. If we were late, additional bad behavior points for tardiness. It was BS, and i still haven't figured out why they had to be such ass n dicks about dress codes.
19:39 I would had sued the school for using that reason whoever does that is a uncle ruckus
lawsuits for days
Facts and the schools would lose all of them
Reminded me of a relevant story I experienced.
I was in middle school, 7th grade if I remember correctly. It was during lunch, and after finishing our meals, me and a friend I was sitting across from started sliding an unopened bag of baby carrots back and forth. Eventually, I slid the bag and my friend didn't catch them, letting them slide off the table onto the floor. Within less than a minute, a security guard from across the lunch room spotted the incident, walked over, accused me of littering, and sent me to the dean's office. When asked what had happened, I gave my recount of everything just as I have here. It all went in one ear and out the other. Somehow, that dean morphed borderline littering into harassment, and I received my first and only detention throughout my entire education. Being the polite and timid kid I was at the time, I didn't try to fight it or change her verdict. I don't think the thought even occurred to me.
Pro: When the dean set the date for my afterschool detention, it originally landed on my birthday. I pointed that out and asked if we could push it back a day and, surprisingly, she let me!
Con: When I interviewed to try and enter the International Baccalaureate (IB) program as I was entering high school, they noticed the lone detention on my record and informed me I was ineligible. I later found out from some friends in the program that I could have reapplied in 10th grade. The only problem was that I was now a senior when they told me. I was salty about that for a bit lmao
I have 2 stories from elementary school:
-Principal had a zero tolerence policy for "things causing problems", what I mean is, imagine everything an elementary schooler may bring to school to play with during recess (like pokemon, cards for exemple), well if it caused any sort of issue it was promptly banned, issues including complaining because someone stole your stuff, this of course, resulted in some kids going around stealing stuff because the victims wouldn't report it, and bullying of the kids that "got something banned". At some point even snacks were banned.
-This isn't exactly a zero tolerence policy but the whole school was punished because of just one guy. Basically the school I went to did both kindergarten and elementary school, and one day, the kinderkarten teachers were protesting, meaning kindergarten kids had no school that day, while we elementary schoolers did. Some kid was salty about it and wrote "I protesting too" with a pen an the bathroom wall, and bragged about it. The teachers somehow made this a very big deal out of this (there was no damage, they just cleaned the wall and it was as good as new), but they demanded the culprit turned himself in. He never did, despite everyone knowing it was him. After the deadline they gave for him to come clean, since he didn't admit it, everyone had to clean up the school instead of having recess for a full day. In hindsight I get not punishing a kid based only on rumors, but what they did was out of line. They also got in trouble with parents because were I live collective punishments (aka punishing everyone like they did) is technially illegal, there are tons of workarounds so they weren't at risk of being sued, but still...
The only reason school teachers/admins get away with doling out these sort of punishments is because kids aren't articulate enough yet to properly call out such flagrant charges, because THEY'RE KIDS.
These stories show us that school prepares us for real life
For the painkillers one what if someone had an asthma attack
They have confiscated epipens, because the kid has "a drug", saying they need to have them locked up at the school office, which might be 5 minutes run away, and another 15 minutes back, because the office is locked "for security, and the key holder is on break", and the kid dies in 3 minutes.
@@SeanBZA fuck that's stupid they would die if they need it
@@SeanBZAwhat the as a person who takes meds that makes me mad
18:21 sounds like a lawsuit
I always new this "Zero tolerance" thing was bullshit. But these stories take it to a whole other level.
Imagine telling a kid that you’re going to suspend them even though they didnt throw a punch so they just deck the other kid and still thinking that its the correct course of action
11:05 that mom is a Karen I would had told that bum I'm having a lawyer and your dealing with it and after that I'm suing the police for slander
"If you're in a fight, even if you don't fight back, you'll get the same punishment as the offender" just translates into "You're getting in trouble anyway, might as well fight back".
Equal punishment for offender and victim doesn't discourage fighting, it *_ENCOURAGES_* it, as people get punished even when they did nothing.
When my dad was in school, a kid attacked him, and all he did was evade and block, but he still got suspended for 3 days for supposedly instigating the fight
One of my school's zero tolerance rule included no hoods (like sweatshirt hoods) or hats that covered your ears. This was to prevent students from using headphones. This wasn't a problem inside class, but since my school is mainly outdoors if it was raining that means everyone would get wet, unless they had an umbrella or someone else shared theirs.
15:29 "I'm in Britain, where zero tolerance isn't really a thing." Sorry, but that's just *objectively* false. I've heard plenty of stories from Brits, in various other threads of a similar theme, sooo...maybe it's not really a thing in *your particular part* of Britain, but it's definitely a thing in Britain.
About that story about the programming and level design.
That police investigation was so incredibly illegal it is unfathomable.
For one, no one can just take away your right to an attorney. It doesn’t work like that. No matter what you have done you have the right to an attorney, and to seek counsel with that attorney before questioning.
Also, not having a warrant and searching your home? Also illegal. Can’t do that.
As a member of the Davy Crockett Gang, I can confirm that we all wear racoon skin hats.
These folks losing their minds over plastic butter knives best watch the John Wick movies. A pencil is deadly. Do teachers realize how deadly that an all metal even a plastic BIC pen with the cap that you end up losing can be as an improvised stabbing weapon?
Loving the Bakugou thumbnail.
story 10 is a prime example of why 0 tolerance fighting policys like that dont work
Story 13 made me so mad. Something like this could easily ruin his life and his mom didn't even hesitate to tell them to arrest him. Unbelievable.
Thanks, MOM.
Hey, that *madman* was causing trouble at home too and needed treatment that she could not provide. _Could you blame her?!?_
/s
@@bensoncheung2801 oh yeah.. because the punishment for not washing the fuckin dishes is to go to jail for your entire life.
This is the kind of mom to have the "Shocked Pikachu Face" when OP eventually goes no contact with her.
That's cause the mom is a Karen if that was me I would had told her to watch it
Story 11 if the teacher tries to take your phone take the phone back by force and use self defense
Self defense? Teachers have the right to take phones or to say to the children to put their phones in some basket, and students can't use "self defense"... Where I live if a student hits a teacher that student will be expelled instantly, no matter what was the problem.
@@ozymandiasultor9480 it's still the right thing to do since they didn't pay for it
We had the opposite of the zero hat policy. The sun gets pretty intense in Australia, so during the summer we had to wear hats whenever we were outside. If we didn't, we were sent either inside a classroom or an undercover area, so long as we were out of the sun.
That actually sort of makes sense
My school had a zero tolerance policy for cough sweets. I bought in a bag one day when I had an awful cough, but they said “you cant have them unless they’ve been prescribed by a doctor.” And without a second to beg to let me keep them, they snatched them off me and my whole day was agony. Oh and the worst part? My sister went to the same school as me, but she was older so she went to a separate building. I saw her with her cough sweets and reported it for the teacher. I was thinking *if I can’t have my cough sweets, she can’t gave hers!* so I told the headteacher about it, and all she said was “shes older, she’s more responsible, she can have them.” So I said “BUT YOU CANT HAVE THEM UNLESS THEY’VE BEEN PRESCRIBED BY A DOCTOR!” I said, while coughing. The headteacher said “tough. The rules are different for older students.” I was livid. She got some comfort and I couldn’t have it.
them legit not doing anything and then theres me who teases people (as a joke, im not a bully and i only mainly do it to my friends), goes on phone, eats in class and chews gum. honestly, some schools are absolute rubbish :/
There’s me who calls my friends the most unhinged nicknames(they consented and I don’t do it often) goes on phone, eats in class and chews mint gum, we’re the same
story#14: i wish that mom owned a gun and was willing to cop a charge over this
So there is this school called athlos academy for those who don’t know it’s a school that focuses more on fitness then anything else and the school has a immense hate for sweets even on birthdays and I quote from the principle himself “ for birthdays you can just give out pencils or erasers” so well ya that’s annoying and all fast forward halfway through the year I start feeling sick off and on after about a week of that my family decides to check my blood sugar for type 1 diabetes because type one diabetes runs in my family and sure enough my number it over 300 ( normal peoples numbers go from about 90-125 as a normal number) so diabetes already sucked at that time but the school didn’t help at all but one day I had brought a share size box of m&ms so I could snack on them when I get low (as a alternative to glucose tabs) so my number was getting low so I just eat some m&ms while just sitting to the side then my PE teacher comes up and yells at me about how I brought candy and I get sent to the principals office to call home when my mom heard that she was livid because that was no joke the 10th time they broke my 504 plan so ya I never went to that school again
Story #14: “Hi! Yes, I would like to buy the hardest steel baseball bat you have, please.”
Whenever I watch this video, it’s always for story #13. It is my favourite Reddit story of all time.
Oh yeah, i have one. The public school i went to had zero tolerance when it had no right to. Basically, there was this girl who would constantly beat my best friend up after school taking advantage that he didn't hit girls. Well when he told me i was livid and i walked with him to the busses. I was a kid who the school thought of as a trouble kid but really people wanted to fuck around and find out with de fat man. So she walked past me because at that point, it was well known that i was 1 fight away from expulsion and that i didn't give a shit, and she walked up to my friend and tried to deck him but i blocked the punch and pushed past her dragging him with me. Well, she made the biggest mistake of her life by following me onto the bus. After i sat down, she elbowed me in the balls, taking my glasses and tring to snap them its on motherfucker i thought. I got up, decked her right in the nose, and grabbed my glasses while all the kids started screaming, and her boyfriend, for some reason, was the only guy who didn't try to defend her actions. But bloody nose in hand, she came back at me for round two, aiming for the jugular but a swing and a miss because my arms were twice as long as hers back to the ground she fell. Well, it seems like she wanted more, so she came back for round 3, and i grabbed her by the hair of side of her head and dragged her while getting a running start into an open seat slamming the other side of her head into the window, and i smashed her head into that window 5 times cracking the filmsy POS (the window), leaving her put cold before surrendering myself to my amazing bus driver. Went home for the spring break, and when i got back to school the next week, i was immediately pulled into the front office with the girl her mother, the police, and the shitty principal where the mother wanted to press charges and the principal had called my mom and told her i was being expelled. Half an hour later my mom walked in with a what the fuck did you do this time face, and the principal explained the situation saying i brutally attacked this poor girl for no reason on the bus last weak giving her a major concussion, a broken nose, a missing tooth, emotional trauma, and a cracked skull. I simply said that isn't what happened and asked for them to 1. Pull in best friend, the girl's boyfriend, my best friend's girlfriend, and a few others, and they will tell you what actually happened, and 2. Check the busses' camera footage. So the busses camera footage was pulled up, and the kids named were called down. A few agreed with the story the principal had concocted, but a majority agreed with my story, and then the footage was played. After we finished the two minutes or so of footage, the girl's mother apologized to me, my mother and, my best friend telling me she was told a completely false story by the principal and her daughter. The principal (who was still working her first year at the school) still didn't care and expelled both me and the girl after we both apologized, which was my idea, and then both apologized to my best friend. My mom had that look of pettiness and maliciousness on her face that i knew all too well. She gracefully apologized to the girl, her mother, and the principal for chewing them out earlier, and off we went. When we got out to the car, my mom smiled at me and said, "Do you want ice cream or a burrito" me being the bean lover, i am said, burrito, and we stopped at my favorite Mexican place getting me my beloved smothered burrito with cheese melted on top, and extra onions before driving straight the the board of administration of the school district's office telling them the situation having them pull of that same footage, and telling the board that if they didn't do something about it she would bring this story to every media source in the state she could find, and hiring an attorney and sueing the board for every penny they have. I was back in class one week later like nothing ever happened, and the nice vice principal suddenly had gotten a promotion because there was a new position open 1 seat above his current position, and for me my mom pulled me out of public education at the end of that year then we started jumping from school to school before we found my current school which is a charter school im which i am now friends with the entire class, and haven't met a single bully for the past 4 years. The moral of the story is do not mess with the fat man or his amazing mother because most likely he out sizes you by two to one and i have never met a fat kid who's mother isn't just as strong and petty as him.
13:14 I would had never done that such a pushover
I went to an online grad school where weekly assignments were collaborations with a team of other students who are from all over the country; every week you'd volunteer for part of a research paper then combine your team's portions and submit them on Sunday night.
It was my turn to combine my team of 5's portions and submit it. I combined everything and ran it through the automated plagiarism detector; it passed. Well, that wasn't enough because apparently my teacher read our paper and detected that somebody (not me) had purchased their portion from one of those sleezy buy-your-paper websites, and it made it through the system.
Per the "course" policy, we were all liable and subject to discipline for the plagiarized portion. Immediately, we were all put on academic probation and given Fs for the course. My father, an attorney, wasn't having it. I had ample proof that I didn't plagiarize my portion and that I had no responsibility for the actions of my team members. The school must've been very surprised when they were served with an injunction to reinstate me and allow me to continue the course. A day after the serving of the injunction, I was removed from academic probation, reinstated in the course, and permitted to finish with an alternative solo assignment. Not sure what happened to my other former teammates.
I got suspended for cutting my bangs (AT HOME)
So in third grade about two weeks prior to this whole situation I had my mom trim my bangs about two inches since it was getting too long.
So two weeks later the teacher notices and starts screaming at me and sent me to the principal while I was screaming “I did it home” over and over and crying, I was suspended for three days. I’m glad I don’t go there anymore
The cops in story 13 besides the one that realized are grade A+ idiots that I hope got fired.
I agree the cops should be fired
Unfortunately, þey were probably put on Administrative Leave (which isn't a punishment) while a sham investigation happened to exonerate þem.
Promoted more likely.
If I was that mother of the kid pushed down the stairs.
"Well your being annoying, would that justify me to try and kill you?"
2:40 its always the best when people protest that you didnt do anything❤🔥 i hang out with a you could say roudy group at school,but when they do something stupid im usually also blamed for it,but they stand up for me. i ❤ u guys!
That shake hands and make up thing is absolutely stupid I had to do that at school two weeks later and we are throwing hands again it just plain doesn’t work. I think teachers do it just so they can say they have done something. Zero tolerance makes no sense if someone who doesn’t even lift a hand to defend themselves gets the same punishment as the person who hits first of course fights will be more brutal what do they expect.
People were bullying me and so I got told that I would get detention if it happened again ?! Also another time I was walking down a hall as some people were bullying another person and as a teacher came past I nearly got detention again ?!
Sounds like þe faculty were bullying you. If it continues, you're going to get a detention. /j
Yeah
Wwwwwwwwww that mom is a legend 😎
Bully nearly kills a kid and badly hurts him. The principal makes the kid and his attacker shake hands. How the heck is the bully not in jail?!
In my highschool there was a zero tolerance policy for fights. It did not matter if you threw a punch or not. There were kids who got suspended for getting in fights where they did not even fight back.
I would love a part two for this
For Full Story, See 11:46 - 13:37 W to the mum there
These stories reminded me of the time I was in private elementary school where I had a bully.
Don’t know if it was a behavioral issue or he was lashing out because he was a small Hispanic boy with a construction worker father in a private school with the usual students being snobby rich kids.
All I know was, the school seemed keen to protect him as he was known for stealing and assaulting people.
Two notable instances were when he rolled up a piece of paper into a shiv and *STABBED ME IN MY RIGHT EYE* I was lucky he missed anything to delicate and I got off with only minor damage that healed up.
The other instance, which ended up getting me barred from the school, was when he stole something from me and I threatened to tell the TA.
He ended up giving it back but I knew he was waiting to steal again so, I told the TA.
The end result was they blamed *ME* and took me the the principal and threatened me to repeat a falsified story they crafted up where I was some kind of evil child and showed my true face as some “dirty [insert my ethnicity here]”.
After all that, ended up going back to public school where there was still bullying but less blatant corruption as the private school.
I wish those TA’s, that kid who probably is in jail by now, and that fossil of a principal nothing but the worst.
The even funnier thing was, I was going to go to the private Christian high school next to that private elementary school but, I guess they looked me up and thought the worst of me despite my GPA.
I was bullied a lot and after a bit I fought back and got suspended several times a year. What the school did not know is that I had been letting my parents know before hand it might come to this and I was bearly punished and never got yelled at. All there was is that during the school days I was suspended I had to help around the house, was told later they did that much so I did not see suspension as a reward for the bad behavior and that I should be doing something when my brother and sister where there.
w for the mum
About that zero hat policy I probably would've been told by the school admin that I was part of the "automotive gang"
Zero tolerance is how you get shooters
11:38 TL;DR: OP discusses making a map of his school with his friends. Discussion is stretched HORRIBLY out of proportion, and leads to police interrogating OP.
so you're telling me that in like 50% of schools, you punching a kid will result in the kid being punched getting expelled and you're let off the hook? W
Couldn't even make it a quarter of the way through, goddamn these zero tolerance stories make me so angry.
Is this some american thing? Because I have never heard of some thing like this over in Germany
America be trippin sometimes
@@theironrubberduckfacts and they need to learn to not do that stuff
Yes
And they still ask why we hate school
here’s my story:
when i was in pre-k we would have to take naps in from like 1:00-2:30. i wouldn’t nap and would whisper to the other kids near me. had to get moved a lot and nearly got expelled for it. EXPELLED. FOR NOT NAPPING. I WAS A FRIGIN PRE-K STUDENT-
This was when covid was a big thing. Anyways, I was sitting at my desk, doing my work. Mask slips down, teacher tells me to pull it up. This happens multiple times, finally, I ask "why do we have to wear masks?" Teacher screams at me and sends me to the office.
Maybe you should have masks that are not slipping off, and you asked such a question when the pandemic was raging? You were not aware of why people wear masks?
I would had told the teacher to mind their own buisness
@@ozymandiasultor9480 If þe teacher can't calmly explain why, þey shouldn't be a teacher. Doesn't matter how obvious þe reasons are, þe teacher overreacted.
Also, wearing masks in and of itself doesn't work when people are wearing þem wrong, adjusting þem improperly, putting þem on improperly, taking þem off to cough or sneeze, continuing to wear it after sneezing, and a whole bunch of oþer þings þat you shouldn't do.
I was well aware why I had to wear the mask. I was upset, because the teacher should have relised, 1. It was an accident, and 2. I couldn't breath well anyways.
These stories are maddening.
Back in middle school, there was this girl in my math class, and she really liked to pick on me. I don’t remember what exactly she said, but I ended up walking out of the classroom in tears. My math teacher literally gave me a lunch detention, just because it was “fair.” This was in 2020, and Covid shut down the school, right before I was supposed to serve that detention. That was the only good thing that came out of the pandemic in my life
11:43 THAT VOICE HE SAID IT IN THOUGH-
I’M DYING
16:59 Oh my god, that literally the same thing that happened to me in first grade, except it was “don’t have the colored blocks in the shape of a gun of a x-wing!”
After not getting why the heck they were so against x-wings/planes and why they could not explain themselves on why I couldn’t.
It was possibly because they could not think of a reason that would not sound absolutely stupid.
In the end they sent me back to the classroom as a form of detention because of my “disobedience”.
If I were to find myself with my memories intact back then (like some kind of “redo” manga) I probably would have really made myself a nuance.
For me, I got in trouble for defending a kid from a bully when I was in elementary school. It was horrible apologizing and making nice to the bully that picked on the new kid in my 4th grade class… . F him!
gah DAYUM that mom in the 14th story was simply AMAZING,big W
I remember when I was having a Bully issue in high-school my step mother sat me down and told me if they ever lay on hand on me I was to hit back. I was worried about getting suspended and asked what if that happened and I was told "then you stay home for a few days. You won't get in trouble" luckily they never tried physically hurting me. Mentally was whole other thing and I either cried or snapped back verbally
Every school I went to had a zero tolerance policy for bullying, yet bullying was rampant there and teachers would pretend it wasn’t happening.
Yo that story where the girl called someone a boob and the kid broke down and cried had me laughing
That Terrorism joke tho🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here’s my Zero Tolerance Policy story:
I was in seventh or eighth grade when this happened. Every day for some time, a girl I knew would approach me in the lunch line and would call me “best friend” in a condescending way. I knew her and was friends with her in earlier grades, but hadn’t really spoken with her for a while. And she was not my best friend.
One day, she came up to me outside the cafeteria, and she was all “hey best friend”. For some reason, that was my breaking point. I punched her in the jaw. Then I went into the cafeteria and ate.
While I ate, one of the teachers came to me and called me into the office. I knew I was in trouble. I was asked to tell what happened, so I did.
Thankfully, one of the administrators of the school had known me for pretty much my entire time at school. She knew I wasn’t the type to lash out like this. That’s why I was asked my side of the story (since the girl I hit also said her point of view). Cameras were checked, and the incident was watched. The cool admin could see that the bully girl was being antagonizing before I hit her.
In the end, I was suspended for a few days, but wasn’t expelled. I’m very lucky that my middle school had surveillance cameras. Otherwise, I would have been screwed.