2024 Subaru Outback Touring XT - $43k Turbo Wagon Highway Commute
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ธ.ค. 2024
- Ride along with me in the 2024 Subaru Outback XT (Turbo) as we commute it down the highway. This Subaru ended up being quite pleasant to daily, and I now understand why I see one every 3 seconds on the road.
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This is one of the best everyday cars... Quiet comfortable and has enough power for merging on the highways/freeways etc. And its a all weather tool.... its like a swiss army knife of cars
I have one of these. It has a great value, NPC, that eats up miles, cushy elbow rest, quiet ( unless on throttle ), that is fairly fuel efficient and good cargo space. The embedded roof rails comes in handy. It is dependable, holds up resale value well and if you are in the snow belts great in the snow.
I also recommend the XT engine as the NA is just a dog.
The entertainment system is sluggish at best and the cameras are slightly better then potato filming.
whats the fuel economy like w these? the cvt should counteract some of the turbo's consumption right? also does it take 93 or 87?
@@flyawayfpv 87 and averaging mid 20s in mixed driving
I've got a 2017 outback.....80.000 miles....been a great car for Idaho back roads....No problems at all....Getting new rear brake pads next week.. Bedside regulator maintenance...it's been trouble free
Bonus pts if you have a turbo Subie in a high-altitude region! Turbos compensate for the lower air density and low oxygen at higher elevations.
Wow, I bought my first Outback touring (non XT) 3mo. ago and is my first Subaru in my life. Your statement is already made me happy. So far I like it a lot.
I drive to cvt Subaru’s very often and I honestly love them. It really doesn’t feel any different than a standard auto and it actually makes them feel responsive around town. People whining about them have never actually driven one.
This. I suspect most people have either never driven one or they don't understand how to drive one. Gentle consistent throttle will give you an extremely smooth vehicle and power delivery with the XT.
I've had regular transmissions my whole life, to be honest I've rented cars with cvt and I actually like the smoothness of them, no jerkiness. We ended buying a crosstrek sport. And my wife loves it. They drive smooth and are quiet compared to other compact suvs
I love subaru's funky design so much. I am a huge wagon fan but I also like raised wagons and this looks perfect!!
It's a couch on wheels, and a pretty good one at that. I just wish they put something other than a CVT in these
Stop the cvt ignorance they make one of the best you don't even notice it
@@truckercowboyed2638wow. You work for Subaru or you just have nothing better to do than troll.
@@truckercowboyed2638yeah just trade it in when CVT blows like everyone else, it’s not like the infotainment will be functional in ten years anyways
@@truckercowboyed2638 CVTs are great in the city and terrible everywhere else. Even the best are not very good.
@@truckercowboyed2638 mate I drive a CVT Forester, I dislike CVTs out of experience not ‘ignorance’
The Subaru Outback Touring XT is a phenomenal vehicle. I am hoping for the refresh in 2026 they add a 360 degree camera system, panoramic sunroof and a new entertainment system that brings back more physical buttons!! Please Subaru!!!
I picked up a Crosstrek a few years ago, it's been a great commuter vehicle.
we gotta respect this guy for doing sound-system tests
I like the CX5 Turbo a little bit more. 6 speed auto is a little more engaging and surprisingly super high build quality (acoustic glass, Bose sound system, high quality paint). Well worth the $39k prices.
Then why do owners complain about road noise despite the acoustic glass? I own the Onyx XT and it is quiet. I haven't drove the CX50 but played with the idea of trading the Outbackfor a 2025 GT Turbo but don't really want to start paying high payments again. The CVT is really smooth provided you know where to shift. Anything above 2,500 "RPM" is very smooth shifts and it's pretty quick for a wagon.
@@MisterMister5893 CX50 doesn’t have acoustic glass
@@CreateR900 I didn't say it did, you did when you said " surprisingly super high build quality (acoustic glass, Bose sound system, high quality paint). ".
I know my Subaru does not have high quality Bose or paint. I think it may have acoustic glass though.
Don’t do it. Just got rid of a 12 month old CX5 Turbo for one of these. The Mazda ride was like a skateboard at low speed and a pogo stick if you got enthusiastic. I was concerned (i.e. didn’t want) a CVT. This one is actually great to live with. Engine feels better too. Quieter and more refined.
@@martingreen5271 That's a nice endorsement for the Subie fans but wait until you encounter premature wear on the Outback. I had to replace 3 things this month alone at 55,000KM. Do the conversion yourself for Miles but within the last few months, rear strut started leaking and required a replacement. Rear brakes are squealing and need replacing. Battery died and won't hold charge. Replaced a few days ago. Windshield is also weak and has a chip. This can happy to any car but Subaru is known to use weak glass.
phantom Parasitic draw leaving you stranded with a dead battery. Happens to a lot of people. If you keep the car, get educated on its "charms".
I bought the Outback Wilderness because I wanted something more daily friendly than my lifted Wrangler. This does hit the spot, but you are right about it not being a drivers car. I feel very disconnected from the road in the OBW. Long road trips are very comfortable, and it's great off road and in snow, but for an enthusiast I want to die every time I go to work.
People complaining about the CVT, this isn't a Nissan product nor a Jatco transmission. It's an in-house design by Subaru. It's way smoother, more responsive and reliable compared to the Jatco units.
Until the valve bodies go out. Theyre cheap to replace though (around $1600 usually if you include a fluid flush/fill w them)
@@flyawayfpv around how many miles? do they usually go out?
@@thaydathroeun8678 really no rhyme or reason to it... ive seen 115 ive seen 230... really varies i think
oh fun fact: you can still option the touring with a cd player, and it's not a slot in the dash like you would think but it's actually hidden away in the center console :)
i just think it's pretty interesting you can still get a cd player in a car in 2024 that still has a giant touchscreen. i kinda like that decision
It's actually standard on the Touring! I've got one in my Touring XT. It's nice to have, but its vertical placement inside the center console bin makes swapping CDs on the fly almost impossible.
You can get a CD player in a 2024 992 Porsche 911 lol
Incredible amenity
I’m 6’5 36inch inseam and every thread for guys my height mentions this car as very comfortable for us tall folk. I’m happy it has a turbo.
I leased a brand new forester and personally I didn’t mind the cvt.
Sport mode wakes up the throttle response quite a bit. At least on my 2024 Crosstrek Wilderness.
Unless I'm missing something, it looks like the outback doesn't have the S/I drive buttons on the wheel. Agreed on sport mode in the Crosstrek, makes a difference when I need to do a quick maneuver.
I have a '24 Outback Wilderness. Owned it for a year now, and honestly the best vehicle I've ever owned. Does everything it's intended to do so well.
Every other vehicle I have ever owned has been a manual, and the CVT has been a non-issue. I joke with the wife that if they put the 6-speed manual from the WRX in the Wilderness version, it would be one of the most well-rounded cars on the road.
As for that unsettledness, it's very likely the lane centering. I can see on your dash that it's active by the symbol of the car with lines on each side. I have mine deactivated permanently. When cruise is on, you can hit the button with the steering wheel symbol to turn it on snd off. If you want to shut it off regular driving when cruise is off, you have to go into the menu.
This car is the only vehicle I've ever drove with lane centering, so I don't know how it compares, but I really don't like it. Felt like constantly fighting each other. It would also sometimes get out of sorts and dart all over the lane. I also live in an area where there are plenty of potholes, and every time I would try to avoid one it would beep and try to steer away from where I wanted to be.
I feel like what Nissan and Subaru need to learn is that the vehicles NOT made for fuel economy DON'T need a CVT. A car like the outback or the Maxima make no sense having a CVT, and drive away possible customers because of it. Hence why the Maxima got the axe last year.
And fuel economy on Subaru boxer engines is lousy. The worst thing is putting a CVT on a WRX, and then try to rename it as something other than a CVT.
And I own two Subarus - both manual.
@@grouchyoldperson3051at least Subaru, plz remove that CVT from the WRX, please
I currently own a 2018 Crosstrek Limited with a CVT. And they said that it gets around 30 mpg combined. But in reality, I'm actually averaging 20.6 MPG...
@@jonlosito2004That’s horrible
They don’t really have a choice due to fuel economy regulations. Subaru does make probably the best cvt out there they’ve always felt like a normal auto to me. But then again, I’ve never owned an automatic car or really driven them that often so they all feel goofy to me. Maybe if you had an older one and upgraded to the new one with the cvt you’d be able to tell more
The Outback is the ideal MN winter highway cruiser
If I could only choose one model, Outback XT is the answer. I had a 3.6R with 6 speed AT+paddle shifter and it was the ultimate swiss-army knife of cars. The only bad thing is the MPG. Mine was only 18/24, if I lucky I got 21 MPG average. The XT MPG is not much better either. My Forester XT 2.0L only got like 24 MPG average. That is why at $40k+ this could be a hard sell because you could get a CR-V Hybrid for about the same price and double the MPG. CR-V is less capable obviously, but for most people it is sufficient.
4:15 - And those rear seats recline...a bit. (Pull that lever embedded toward the outside edge of the seatback. Often overlooked, even by the OB owners.)
My outback handles amazingly on icy Montana roads, that combined with the mpg makes it my top choice.
I have a 2012 Outback Limited with 139,000 miles! The only thing that was problematic was my brakes but I live in Catskill Mountains so it's not necessarily the fault of the brakes, just where I live you break a lot
The steering is quite vague, which makes it feel unsteady at highway speeds. This is one of the many complaints of my partner.
I enjoyed my 2013 outback, 3.6 with tradition transmission. I loved that the front passenger seat fully tilts backwards flat and I could easily fit 10 foot boards inside the car. What I didn't enjoy was that it seemed to have poor build quality and things started rattling within a year, and the battery died within the first 4 months. The seats were also lacking in thickness. And it drank oil from day 1. It had a nice driving feel though and was very practical, but ultimately I don't enjoy wagons. I'll wait until they upgrade the infotainment system before I think of buying any of the new models.
The doors sound hollow on that generation you had also. The newer models have vastly improved. A friends 18 Forrester felt very sturdy, solid and comfortable.
Sport mode and intelligent mode?
Back before I bought my current Toyota, I test drove a Legacy- there was a lot to like but I just could not get past the CVT, of course this was over 10 years ago. They may be better now but back then they were drone monsters.
Topher, did they change the indicator yoke back to physically stay where you switch it to. It used to be physically just in the middle position no matter what you do.
My 2014 Outback Premium has a propless hood. wonder what happened
My parents have a 2018, it’s been reliable since they bought it. It does however have lousy on road feel. The CVT is so annoying and slow, and the suspension tuning is too floaty and bouncy. Honestly would not recommend for those two reasons. And if it bothers you, it is also kinda of loud on the highway.
Love my Touring XT. Dont do Uber so MPG is not my priority, safety is. I drive normally so any car could be fine but for my own safety if i get hit by others, i think i have higher chance of survival in a Subaru. With regards to CVT, dont like it but a CVT in a Subaru doesnt get overheated that often compare to others that use CVT so i think its not that bad 😅
I'm surprised it lost front traction at just 37mph on the onramp(12:43), I have a toyota ipsum 240u and it has no problems and wants to go faster, but I haven't pushed it beyond 40 mph because I don't need to. I might someday, and I plan on going to a track to test my limits and my car's with some upgraded brakes of course :)
CVTs work great as performance transmissions. However these econoboxes do not need a CVT. They aren't built very well.
I honestly think if they brought out a luxury version with an 8 speed and a bigger engine and better refinement it would sell very well
I love the outback and i think it’s still a wagon just lifted
Surprised it doesn’t come with a 1 inch hitch at least standard. Very family bike rack kind of car.
Oh man imagine if they still sold this with a manual transmission... a practical hatchback to go do outdoors stuff with 3 pedals. One can dream.
People weren't even buying manual Crosstrek in enough numbers to justify that. The buyers just weren't there.
@@thatoneotherotherguyhe didn’t say it was practical. He said it would be fun. Stop hating just cause you can’t drive a stick.
@@thatoneotherotherguy yeah it's unfortunate that today's drivers have gotten very lazy!
@@thatoneotherotherguy Car manufacturers are rich, they can totally afford the production of a few unpopular models. There’s totally a place for a manual turbo wagon in Subaru’s line up.
@@maximeparent3004 the only incentive to create a money-losing model is if the value is otherwise there as a halo-car for the brand. The WRX and BRZ are already their halos. A third quick stick thing would just lose money and cause EPA CAFE penalties.
I have a 2021 Forester Sport….i still don’t really trust the cvt even after 50k miles. Probably going back to a Toyota next purchase. I live in Alberta and when we get really cold, the cvt makes weird noises
I love CVT
Why do people complain about the CVT transmission?
I’m sorry, how much horsepower….!? How is this car not blowing ppl away with that kinda torque too?
Sure this car is NPC, but props to Subaru for keeping a STATION WAGON that relevant... I recently rode in an Outback with my friends to go fishing and hiking and truth be told, I see the hype now. And it still looks way better than an SUV. Wish there was a way to paint the plastic cladding though
I have a 23 OBW and i will never get another subaru unless they drop the CVT and fix the infotainment system
Totally agree with you Topher, cvts shouldn't simulate gears. The main advantage of a CVT is the smoothness of not having them
reving cvt doesnt sound smooth lol
The infotainment system prevented me from buying the Outback. There was no way I was living with that thing on a daily basis.
can you road trip the 2024 ram 1500 pls!!
43k is not cheap.....🤷♂️🤦♂️🙄
I just wish they were better on gas. If they ever came out with a plug-in hybrid, I would buy one in a nanosecond. Alas, their partnership with Toyota means they will likely never make the transition to better gas mileage outbacks.
I’m sure the Outback will get a redesign for 2026 when the Legacy (for which the Outback is a lifted Legacy) goes bye-bye after next year.
"Only 43000 dollars"
“Only $43k” 🤦♂️ My 2018 3.6R Touring was $38k OTD. Oh, and I have hood struts.
This one has a turbo.
@@jerseyman1O Yes, an inferior engine.
Love the flat six! Subaru should bring it back. And put it in the BRZ!
Its only 43k dollars...
I'm confused. I know I've seen Topher drive Subarus before so how can he say he knows nothing about them? 🤔🤔
Will we ever see you review Mazda CX-30 Turbo? I remember you mentioning your lady owns one. I remember even seeing it in one of your clips when Tedward was visiting and it stood in your garage next to a Lamborghini or something. Come on, time for CX-30 Turbo, you love Mazdas, don’t you?
soon!! it already has 12k on it and has been a fantastic daily for me :)
I’ve owned one since August 2022. When I first got it I had too many requirements. I’m a musician in NYC and I have to travel places to perform. I needed something that would get me anywhere in winter, rain, dirt, whatever the conditions. So I needed higher clearance, AWD, etc. This one was a tad bit over my budget but I took the chances as anything else in the segments seemed beyond boring. I love driving “spiritedly” in the mountains and wanted a hot hatch. But all those we either over my budget or missing features I needed. CX-30 Turbo had all the attributes I needed, including shorter wheel base, much needed for parking in NYC and it fit my gear just about right. But it also has that hot hatch temper and here is why I’ve been waiting impatiently and hoping for both Tophers and maybe Tedward do fresh reviews of it. I haven’t driven nearly as many cars as they and my perspective is much more limited. However, when I drive it, especially when I’m away from traffic and all the tri-state area crazies and in the mountains, I feel like it handles and drives like a hot hatch. It is also so quick. I know it’s not a sports car and it’s not marketed as one but I sense the Mazdaspeed DNA in it and it feels heck of hot to me while still being an all can do car. Some call it lukewarm hatch 🤣 anyway, I understand it has a higher center of gravity but I did drive a GTI and it didn’t feel that far apart from it. There’s some controversy about it in forums and some debates. I don’t care, what I care about is I am still in love with this little car over two years into the ownership. What I would love The Tophers (who are some of my favorite car guys - would love to meet them in person at some point) to do is to review this car from a standpoint of how much of a sporty DNA is really within it. How much of a hot or lukewarm hatch it really is. Sarah‘N’Tuned (it’s a car channel as well) literally rallied the heck out of it and was blown away, even it being on crappy tires it comes with. I’d love to see what Tophers think of it from its performance perspective as it is and what they think would be good and cheaper starting mods for it. For example changing pads to CorkSport performance pads, changing wheels to 18x8.5 and putting 235 performance tires in it. I feel its stock tires just don’t have enough grip when you start pushing it. I noticed that when it is in sport mode and you use paddle shifters it actually lets you hold the gears higher and won’t shift for you at 5500 as The Topher (the other one :)) saw in one of his earlier videos. Would love for Chris and you to do one of your long format trip videos or something like that to really dig into this car’s abilities and see what you have to say. I love it no matter what but I feel people in car circuits don’t give it enough credit and respect for its performance abilities as it punches so much higher than its weight in almost every aspect. Yes it is small for families probably but it’s amazing for singles or couples who are actually a bit of car enthusiasts in my opinion. Anyway, sorry for such long comment. Just didn’t know how in other way I could get in touch with Chris and the gang :))
@@edinjazz Great insight. I read it all of it.
If you are able to, please do a video with a Ferrari Purosangue.
It looks good
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As an owner of a 2020 Outback with the 2.5L 4-cylinder, in my experience, the 2.5L is 100% better if you just need something to get you from A to B, or you cruise on the highway a lot at 55MPH-60MPH as you will have hundreds of miles of range, even with AWD system.
but the cvt!
43K lol
Wilderness is better
This dude hates the cvt transmission
Let’s simulate gears and make the car more inefficient and transmission not as reliable
What makes me not leasing or buy a Subaru...that dashboard is ugly and the transmission(is bad). Why they don't do like Nissan Rogue/Maxima or Honda interior.
It's a great winter car.
You're characterizing the likely drivers of this car as "old" in a disparaging tone of voice? Stupid, irrelevant, unnecessary ageism.
Silence, boomer
Wompwomp
@@Deleteguest QED
Cope bro cope
I have a 24 outback with the smaller engine, which is supposed to get 26 to 32 MPG‘s, city/highway. I’m getting a pathetic 20 to 24. Have had it checked twice at the dealer, and all they claim is that there’s nothing wrong with the vehicle.they could care less about this discrepancy. I’ll never buy another Subaru.
Sorry, don't like your 20 something sports auto review, of course this isn't a "sports car".
never liked Subarus always something cheap about them. boxer design can never be fuel efficient than regular inline engines plus cvt worst thing ever
My cousin bought an outback brand new in 2018. He let me drive it around and after less than 2 minutes I had enough of it and pulled over to let him drive. 6 years later and I still haven’t sat in a Subaru since then. Never again.
Honda Passport > Subaru Outback XT
That's an SUV, but yeah
Honda Passport is underrated
subaru is garbage i dont know why people buy subaru
Subarus are "value priced" because they factor in the cost to replace a blown head gasket within 100,000 miles.
it's what makes a Subaru a Subaru
That hasn't been an issue for years and was primarily a performance subaru issue.
That issue has been solved for well over a decade at this point. YAWN.
I was gonna tell you guys not to blow a gasket over my comment, but uh...yeah.... 🤣
27:17 lol what - no I don't know what the word is... Topher Jr throwing around racial slurs or something?
I'm guessing he said cigarette but like a brit.