What is L'Hospital's rule?

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    0:45 // What does L'Hospital's rule do?
    2:36 // How many times can you apply L'Hospital's rule?
    3:26 // An example using L'Hospital's rule
    5:13 // When you can and can't use L'Hospital's rule
    7:35 // What to do when L'Hospital's rule fails
    7:51 // Two examples that avoid L'Hospital's rule
    10:11 // Another example using L'Hospital's rule
    L'Hospital's rule is so named because i was discovered (maybe) by the mathematician L'Hospital in the 1600's. While L'Hospital is credited with the rule, he worked closely with Johann Bernoulli, who claimed after L'Hospital's death that L'Hospital had paid him off in order to take credit for the rule.
    But no matter who discovered it, L'Hospital's rule is a really helpful tool that you can use to solve limit problems. You want to use L'Hospital's rule when you evaluate a limit and the result is an indeterminate form, like 0/0 or infinity/infinity. For a limit that gives an indeterminate form, L'Hospital's rule says that you can replace the numerator and denominator of the original function with their respective derivatives. In other words, replace the numerator with its derivative, and replace the denominator with its derivative. Then use substitution to try to evaluate the limit again. Oftentimes, L'Hospital's rule will have simplified the function to the point where substitution no longer gives an indeterminate form, but instead a real-number answer.
    And L'Hospital's rule can actually be applied multiple times. So even if you use it once, and then try substitution and you still get an indeterminate form, you can just try applying L'Hospital's rule again and again until you eventually do get a real-number answer. The only drawback is that there are a few instances in which L'Hospital's rule can't be used.
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  • @justinward3679
    @justinward3679 7 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The hardest thing about L'hospital's rule is pronouncing it.

  • @steveclarke1857
    @steveclarke1857 5 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    *L'Hôpital
    No S.

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Guide to French Pronunciation:
    Select 40% of the letters in a word at random and only pronounce those.

  • @usmanalam23
    @usmanalam23 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I was told by my lecturer it is pronounced "Lopital's Rule" with a slight accent on the "o". Also it is spelled "L'Hôpital's" [French: lopital] but it would seem a lot of American classrooms have settled for L'Hospital. Poor man

  • @Luhgooey
    @Luhgooey 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much! You explained it much better in 13 min than my professor did in an entire lecture.

  • @ddahstan6876
    @ddahstan6876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not only the video is clear to grasp but I'm intrigued by a little brush of history, too! Love your passion and thumb nails! :-)).

  • @josem.barquero604
    @josem.barquero604 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks.....even though I am not taking my calc course anymore, I still love watching your videos. So easy to understand.

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Love that! Gotta keep the skills sharp. :D

  • @dannyshaw4057
    @dannyshaw4057 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well explained. In fact this is a channel full of great knowledge and explanations!

  • @praptisalaskar6281
    @praptisalaskar6281 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Wow, you're amazing, ma'am. Thank you so much, keeping posting more! :)

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thanks, Prapti! I'm hoping to get back to posting soon! :D

  • @RafaelRabinovich
    @RafaelRabinovich 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the practical lesson.

  • @osagiee.guobadia-secondytc4624
    @osagiee.guobadia-secondytc4624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good information about the L'Hospital Rule while I'm attending Calculus in my 2020 Fall semester, Miss Krista King! : )

  • @rajendramisir3530
    @rajendramisir3530 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for sharing three conditions where L'hopital's Rule will not work. Johann Bernoulli was a clever Mathematician.

  • @bhagatcharan1127
    @bhagatcharan1127 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great explaination sister

  • @MackMillicco
    @MackMillicco 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    So... you got any experience in vector spaces properties? I've seen that your videos are mostly Calculus (which I appreciated during those classes) and I was wondering if you would ever think of branching out to, maybe, linear algebra. I'm looking at these matrix properties and I feel like I walked into an upper foreign language class.

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      LOL, hang in there! :) It's definitely something that I hope to do at some point, but I know you need the help right now.

  • @paulway7745
    @paulway7745 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Beautifully explained. Can you tell me what program you are using for writing? Thank you!

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @paulway7745
      @paulway7745 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks Krista! I will definitely be looking into it.

  • @Webusage1988
    @Webusage1988 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Such a cool rule. Thanks for teaching it clearly.

  • @mohamedsaeed8911
    @mohamedsaeed8911 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank u .. your videos are so helpful 👍👍

  • @khalilhodroj8936
    @khalilhodroj8936 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you

  • @mathematicaATD
    @mathematicaATD 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice explanation

  • @PeterFekete
    @PeterFekete 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can we really use LH on a limit sin(x)/x?
    I found sources arguing that you can use LH only if the 2nd derivative exists, which means that this cant be applied on this limit, right?
    Isn't better just use the mclaurin expansion for sin x, get rid of the ratio and then plug the the x=0?
    Like (x - x^3/3! + x^5/5! - ...)/x = 1 - x^2/3! ... and after by plugging x=0, we get just 1.

  • @WagesOfDestruction
    @WagesOfDestruction 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 8:31 you can only divide by (x-4) if (x-4) does not equal zero.

  • @WestonMurdock
    @WestonMurdock 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So, if either the numerator or denominator is equal to 0, but not both, so 0/x or x/0, is the limit just 0 so that we don't have to do anything else?

    • @rajendramisir3530
      @rajendramisir3530 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      lim x-2/x = 2-2/2=0/2=0.
      x->2
      In the first case, the limit is 0.
      lim x/x-2 = 2/2-2=2/0
      x->2
      In the second case, the function f(x)/g(x) is undefined at x=2. The function may be discontinuous at x=2.

  • @muralithatholu2113
    @muralithatholu2113 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my question is .....why we have derivate..what is the heart of this L'Hospital's theorem.please explain..

  • @franchello1105
    @franchello1105 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you explain why this works? If we take a different point, let say 3, which doesn't have an indeterminate form, you get different answers (lhopital and substitution). (1/108 vs 1/65)

    • @alexiossurya3868
      @alexiossurya3868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      U may be making some Mistake

    • @alexiossurya3868
      @alexiossurya3868 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Becoz Rule is a Rule It Satisfies all conditions upon what it works ( ˘ ³˘)

  • @MMA_CAT
    @MMA_CAT 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you rock my world ( MJ's voice)

  • @bobh6728
    @bobh6728 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The first condition to use the rule is that g’(a) 0. Then how would you ever use the second derivatives which is said can be used if the first derivatives give you 0/0 which is saying g’(a)= 0. What am I missing?

  • @gooball2005
    @gooball2005 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The last example can also be solved by factoring the denominator twice.

    • @fetauAdu
      @fetauAdu 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      No need for L'Hospital rule for it was factorable both the numerator and denominator using the difference of squares.

  • @mansarawat2450
    @mansarawat2450 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you

  • @stumbling
    @stumbling 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Lowsbietowel"
    "Lowsbie... Towel"
    "Lowsbietowel"

  • @sircourage
    @sircourage 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a well organized teacher

  • @hoangtran95
    @hoangtran95 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    What rule do doctors follow?

  • @lanvu9323
    @lanvu9323 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks!

  • @jayprakashsingh2034
    @jayprakashsingh2034 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks it helped a lot.

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're welcome, I'm so glad it helped! :D

  • @fishertech
    @fishertech 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Doesnt the sin x function oscillate? then how come you still managed to use Lhopital rule?

    • @fishertech
      @fishertech 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      talking about the example at 4:16

    • @webtube4348
      @webtube4348 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, it's true that sin x oscillates, however we are now approaching a finite number, not infinity or negative infinity, therefore L'Hopital's (Might spelled it wrong) Rule can still be applied.

  • @HarpalSINGH-df6pu
    @HarpalSINGH-df6pu 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    vich hospital is dis in relation 2? i done understood ur meths

  • @valor36az
    @valor36az 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video

  • @quiramquimod5467
    @quiramquimod5467 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks

  • @Nursin-rg1ey
    @Nursin-rg1ey 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing 🤩❤️

  • @aggravatedbaguetteshorts6503
    @aggravatedbaguetteshorts6503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For the last one, you could actually simplify it and solve the derivative without using L'Hopital's rule. The denominator is a difference of perfect squares so you can rewrite it as: (x^2+4)(x^2-4). Since you have another difference of perfect squares, you can rewrite it again, all of the denominator: (x^2+4)(x+2)(x-2). Since, (x-2) is in the numerator, you can rewrite the fraction, (not going to bother trying to write limit with proper form in a TH-cam comment), as 1/(x^2+4)(x+2), or 1/x^3+2x^2+4x+8. When you plug 2 in, you get that 1/(2^2+4)(2+2)=1/(8x4)=1/32.
    Not trying to criticize, just pointing out and helping others who would like to solve it in a different manner. :)

  • @johntolkien9629
    @johntolkien9629 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 05:49 you use a square symbol - why ?
    Am reading this as 'Then g prime of a cannot be equal to zero' - but don't want to make assumptions.

    • @anuvette
      @anuvette 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's there to check the parameter for L'hospital's rule to work

  • @SKAOG21
    @SKAOG21 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm quite sure you can't use L'Hôpital's rule for sinx/x when X approaches 0 because of differentiation from first principles, where you come across sinh/h as h approaches 0.

  • @JoeyBartlett
    @JoeyBartlett 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was so useful that I thought there was something wrong..

  • @enickasmith4223
    @enickasmith4223 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good video

  • @manuelaidos
    @manuelaidos 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love this rule mostly when i need to calculate indeterminate limits

    • @StarLord1994
      @StarLord1994 ปีที่แล้ว

      When else would you love it? Lol

  • @reggienalupa5166
    @reggienalupa5166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    how about non zero over 0, l hospital is not applicable ?

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      No. That usually means you have a vertical asymptote at that point. :)

    • @reggienalupa5166
      @reggienalupa5166 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks :D your tutorial videos help me a lot

    • @anvu1854
      @anvu1854 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really sad frtim

  • @ILikeReadingTho
    @ILikeReadingTho 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder why all I knew about solving the problems with limits were L'Hospitals rule.

  • @thebluebeyond2329
    @thebluebeyond2329 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ah you have a TH-cam channel as well 🤞😎✨✨. I'm saved. I tried taking the Precalculus course but my pockets are not that deep as dollars weigh up than a Rand

    • @kristakingmath
      @kristakingmath  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found me here, Kendra! :)

  • @mahmoudashraf117
    @mahmoudashraf117 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    already Bernoulli's theorem is enough :)

    • @xOxAdnanxOx
      @xOxAdnanxOx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      هههههههههههههههه hahahah this is the translation of the laugh in Arabic

  • @saiphislam9396
    @saiphislam9396 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Imagine applying bernoullis rule again and again upto f deca prime x.

  • @AyushBhattfe
    @AyushBhattfe 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    its funny that in India we say EL-Hospital rule

  • @tusharsingh-gm8kz
    @tusharsingh-gm8kz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good ❤️

  • @vanguard7674
    @vanguard7674 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    L-HOP-PITAL?

  • @RafaelRabinovich
    @RafaelRabinovich 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think that "s" is mute

  • @kristakingmath
    @kristakingmath  7 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    L'Hospital's or L'Hopital's?? You say 🍅 I say 🍅. ;)

    • @gatsuofmontecristo7337
      @gatsuofmontecristo7337 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what about eggplants?

    • @tuna3875
      @tuna3875 6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I think its L'Hopital, but its pronounced "Loh-Peetal" because the H is silent in French.

    • @Phoebus82
      @Phoebus82 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      When I study maths sometimes I need a n'hospital :D

    • @matth8200
      @matth8200 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I say "tomato," you say "tosmato." :)

    • @stumbling
      @stumbling 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eou sai tomateux, Ighe saelles teumeiteaut.

  • @meiwinspoi5080
    @meiwinspoi5080 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just saw this by chance. sorry madam you cant use l’hopitals rule for sin x / x because the fundamental evaluation of derivative of sin x, you need to prove lim x tends to 0 of sin x /x = 1. so it will amount to circular argument if l’hopitals rule is used for sin x/x. you have to use epsilon delta definition of limit in this case.

  • @hippy518
    @hippy518 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    AH ?

  • @davidgruen7423
    @davidgruen7423 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hospital rule if you translate it word by word

  • @xavierplatiau4635
    @xavierplatiau4635 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    There is a little mistake in the name which made me laugh a bit as a French guy, « Françoise » is a feminine name and « marquise » also refers to a feminine person.
    His name is Guillaume François Antoine, marquis de L'Hôpital, sometimes written L’Hospital.
    By the way, hôpital is French for..an hospital. That’s why you shouldn’t pronounce the « s » in his name.

  • @adityamaurya9437
    @adityamaurya9437 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    From India

  • @xdxd-br5jv
    @xdxd-br5jv 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    El hospital

  • @Davio88
    @Davio88 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Le Hospital.

  • @allanhenriques2694
    @allanhenriques2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    who else came here because of the thumbnail?

  • @zeroday7878
    @zeroday7878 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    loh-pee-tahl?

  • @liam8904
    @liam8904 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait a minute, she's using the pronunciation to distract us from the real problems!

  • @noobgamerreal234
    @noobgamerreal234 ปีที่แล้ว

    hospital's rule 💀

  • @Rogeriopris
    @Rogeriopris 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    99% of people that explain math start from saying believe in what I am sayng here and then try to understand this magic and do the exercises as the masters teaches you.Bad explaination

  • @merc340sr
    @merc340sr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In mathematics, more specifically calculus, L'Hôpital's rule or L'Hospital's rule (French: [lopital], English: /ˌloʊpiːˈtɑːl/, loh-pee-TAHL) provides a technique to evaluate limits of indeterminate forms. "Hospital" is the old French spelling. In this case the "S" is silent. In modern French, it's more common to use "L'Hôpital", as in de L'Hôpital's rule. source: Wikipedia. Use the latter expression and you will sound more educated....loll...