Great video, but the most helpful was most certainly the slugs part at 4:35. If there was anyone that may have given you that idea, they surely knew what they were talking about ;)
Being an untrained classical guitarist I find almost all of this very eye opening, but if I have to choose the best tip right now, the advice on getting the fingering right while learning a new piece for me as I have never truly appreciated until recently how much the muscle memory could affect my learning speed.
@@BeyondTheGuitarAcademy On that topic, I was (until this video interrupted me!) learning to play this amazing arrangement of Pink Panther!.. and trying to create the muscle memory for the click and pick (like in measure 8). Do you use a rest stroke for those? That is the only way I can get that but it feels so staccato when I do.
let me share my story here. I'm self-taught guitarist-amateur, I've been playing for 10 years or so. I was always result-driven. So having employed wrong techniques, capitalizing on bad habits unknowingly walking my path gave me a big source of depression, discomfort, anxiety. It's like you have a lot to say but you can't pronounce a single word correctly. Persue of instant gratification is not the best way to learn. It is so disappointing when you try so hard achieve something, but lack of time, communication, curiosity negate all your efforts. I've spent sometime on this channel and it made so big difference/gain for me. I would add that you should also be curious, sometimes it hard but try to listen to new music it can stir up the interest. If you find yourself struggling with guitar, try to reframe excersices as a form of meditation. Always have a critical view on your daily routine, think what and why you're doing. Try to rationalize. It sound obvoius, but I personally spent hell of the time figuring this out. And good luck on the Bards path :)
This is the 3rd or 4th time I have taken a look at this video: I always find inspiration!! Not a single advice is superfluous; they are all pure gems. You are not only an extraordinary guitarist: you have exceptional communicatve skills. You express all these concepts in a very clear, warm and inspiring way. We all congratulate ourselves for having you at the other side of the screen. Nathan:
I’ve been playing and teaching for 44 years (ouch!) on and off (mostly on) and I truly agree with all of the things this guys is saying!!! Most of these concepts are notions I have tried to imbue in myself and my students ad nauseam. These are all golden nuggets that will move you forward a bit at a time ... it’s like watching your hair grow: you don;t see the progress, but eventually your hair is longer, i.e. eventually you area better guitarist. C’est la vie! Good job on this video! Kudos! And remember: Guitar playing is a LIFELONG endeavor. Awesome!
The tip you didn't give comes out loud and clear in this video - enjoy playing. I've spent too much time beating myself up about my faults and letting perfectionism get in the way of enjoying myself. The 5 times rule is one I'll take to heart, also practice slowly, and maybe, more than anything, commit to playing in public. Thank for this helpful - and humorous - video.
Nathan, this was the absolutely best collection of tips and advices I discovered for playing guitar. I was watching a lot of guitar videos in the last months because (I don‘t lie) you and Edgar Cruz (the queen arrangements...) motivated me to pick up my 25 year old classical guitar after years and years not touching it. That’s why I just wanted to say thank you! Btw, for me tip 1 (and 2) are the most important!!
Thanks this really helped. I am 14 years old and I have been playing Guitar for the past 3 months and I have at least 8 songs I play each day and some day I really don’t feel like playing but ones I play I forget about everything and turns out to be an hour maybe even 2 sometimes so I just wanted to say again thanks for the advice.
What most impt for me: 1. Avoid mistakes by practicing extremely slowly 2. Try to know every note in fretboard 3. Memorize the pieces as quickly as possible. So u can practice other techniques 4. Use mirror or phone while practice for check your expression, prevent the weird face 5. Test your memory with imagining playing the guitar with closed eyes 4. Use timer
ALL are good advice, play slowly but beautifully and play for others. And especially the sock! I did not realize this until I had to play Schumman’s Fremder Mann, have to “glide” from 2nd string to 6th string. Thank you so much!
Please do some right hand/ Left hand techniques and how to practice them. Most of us are self taught or self trained classical guitarist that really missed out on the fundamentals of picking/chord placing/fret movement. Please help us unlearn all these bad habits and improve for the better good. Thank you.
Just want to say thank you for your videos...I'm 45, just learning the guitar and you make it so much less daunting, Thank you! As an educator myself, I have to say you are brilliant.
Excellent video! You taught me that I need to start spending more time playing as opposed to searching and collecting more beautiful guitars to play...
Thank you very much for the amazing video, if you think about it many of your tips are also very useful for life deadlines not only for guitar practice.
@@katieshelton8117 bro this has been three years so it took me a while to recall. So what he was saying is this have you watched "Fingerstyle" guitar players on youtube ? the ones who use steel strings? Most of them dont pluck like classical guitarists. correct? check their hands. You will notice that a classical guitar player can have very stationary pluckin hands since we do not pull from the fingers but we usually pluck with the knuckle.the force of your pluck comes from your knuckle. that is more efficient and has less unnecessary movements. In fingerstylers who dont practice properly their plucking unlike classical players you will see them CLAWING their fingers when they pluck. they are not mostly using the force of their knuckles ..sorry kinda hard to explain but you get my point dear? I got a bit better since this video. I even uploaded some videos of me playing. you can take a look at my hands. its not perfect but I think a beginner can relate more to a newb like myself as well. I am particularly proud of my Bach Prelude upload. it would mean alot if you can feedback on it by comment good luck on your journey please do tell me more about your progress
My #1 tip is to primarily do what you enjoy. Sure you should practice the boring stuff too but if you are so bored that you end up quitting then you wont come very far.
I play for over 15 years, just to start recording and recognize how terrible it sounds.. Pauses, buzzing, mistakes.. Man this instrument is just HARD to learn - and I don't mean songs are. They are quite easy to learn. I will follow those tips. Thanks ❤
a spanish flamenco guitarist once gave me the best tip that ive held in my heart and has served me better than any tip in over 30 years of practice: “lock yourself in your room and eat that fuckin guitar alive.” some people will never get it.
@02:40 : DUDE, water is precious ! How many liters went to the sink ?! And... you brush your teeth BEFORE coffee? What the hell !! Beside this, your video was awesome ;)
I think the biggest game changer is recording yourself with a cam. Watch what's happwning there. Test also how many times you need to play something good...
Hello, my question, which A-frame do you use? as lefty, I have tried several frames. on closer inspection, these turned out to be NOT semetric, which turned out to be the reason for unwanted back pressure from the frame. the frames have been returned. currently I am using a guitar footrest. thanks for your attention. Vny :-)
i dont like the practice slow idea unless i want to get good at playing something slow which i sometimes do. but id rather practice not just slow or fast but REFINED.
You’re left-handed but right eye dominant; you’ll improve your playing 100fold if you follow your left hand with your left eye rather than your right, that’s why you’re good at guitar but sucked at pool or racket sports. THANK Y😇U FOR YOUR VIDEO; REMEMBER GREATNESS IS OUT LOOKING FOR YOU, SO BE READY!! 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Number 14 is one of those things that are heard once and repeated but not necessarily true. Chris Parkening method no 1. P. 17 show mid knuckle as the active joint during free stroke. I think this one needs to be elaborated on a bit more.
Christopher Parkening is an incredible player, but I disagree with him on that point. I believe the mid-knuckle joint should be part of the motion, but a secondary motion. The reason the main-knuckle should be the primary source of the motion is because it's quicker, stronger, and produces a better tone. To produce a nice tone, you have to push the string down in toward the body of the guitar. This is easier to do when the motion is coming from your main knuckle. The mid-finger joint is more likely to cause you to pull up on the strong or pull from the side, both of which will produce weaker tones. For the strength and speed, compare the 2 by wiggling your finger. Keep your main knuckle stiff and just wiggle your finger from the mid-joint. Then keep your mid-joint stiff and wiggle from the main knuckle. You can feel a drastic difference in the speed and tension. The main knuckle motion is naturally quicker and requires less tension. But, to each their own. Again, Christopher Parkening is a fantastic player, and just like in any field, people will disagree on certain aspects of the methodology. If you can objectively make a case for the motion coming from the mid-finger joint being a better option, other than the fact that Christopher Parkening recommends it, I say go for it. It's always important to look at the reasoning behind techniques, rather than just taking somebody's advice as law. My own included!
@@BeyondTheGuitarAcademy First of all, thank you for your reply. I respect what you do and I think it matters, which is why I am challenging you on this point. The active joint should be mid knuckle during free stroke because it gives you a finer sense of control. Using the larger knuckle is good when there is a string behind to stop the stroke but free stroke requires greater acuity and precision. Yes, the power ultimately comes from the big knuckle, but that is not what you said in the video. The follow-through of the stroke needs to be controlled by the mid knuckle, and as such is the focal point during free stroke. I challenge this because I've wasted many hours trying to making my mid knuckle inactive while the large knuckle is the only thing moving, and I did this because people on youtube were telling me to do it without elaborating. I still think the mid knuckle technique makes the most sense for me, but perhaps there are still things left to explore. I appreciate your explanation and your time.
I realize I'm chiming in 4 years after this discussion, but I think there are some points to be made here, and I'm coming in to agree basically with allsoortsoffolk's post. I'm thinking the reference to Chris Parkening method No 1 p.17 should have been page 15, yes? If so, interestingly Mr. Parkening's text states "In both the free stroke and the rest stroke the finger motion starts from the knuckle." However, in both the diagram and the RH photos the "active joint" is shown to be the mid-finger joint (between the knuckle joint and the top joint)! Notwithstanding this confusion, there is always some ambiguity among the descriptions "active joint," "the start of the motion," "the primary sources of motion." It might be that Mr. Parkening sees no contradiction here, that the stroke STARTS from the knuckle but that during the stroke the mid-joint is the more ACTIVE. I don't agree that the large knuckle is quicker, stronger, or produces a better tone, especially if its freedom of motion and independence has been consciously developed. When playing free stroke at an oblique angle from slightly above the string, the string displacement downward (with some assistance from the gravitational weight of the right arm) can produce tones that mimic those of rest strokes. It seems that everyone repeats the same orthodoxy that "the power comes from the knuckle joint," while watching their videos closely does not confirm. Similarly, "Always follow through to the palm" is (IMHO) another false canard. Chris Parkening uses a LOT of motion from both joints (appropriate given that he's said they are BOTH employed)--but try watching John Williams' videos where you can see his right hand and you will see an i finger that obviously is the more active joint and the primary source of his projection.
What tip was most helpful or eye-opening for you? Let me know in a comment!
Most of them.... Can't thank you enough sir
Great video, but the most helpful was most certainly the slugs part at 4:35. If there was anyone that may have given you that idea, they surely knew what they were talking about ;)
All of them are very useful, but the 5x challenge (no.43) was most eye opening for me. I now use it all the time!
Everything else is sec
Ondary
This is not a guitar tips, this is a life tips
Being an untrained classical guitarist I find almost all of this very eye opening, but if I have to choose the best tip right now, the advice on getting the fingering right while learning a new piece for me as I have never truly appreciated until recently how much the muscle memory could affect my learning speed.
Oh yeah that's super important! Lots of people neglect that. Glad it was helpful!
@@BeyondTheGuitarAcademy On that topic, I was (until this video interrupted me!) learning to play this amazing arrangement of Pink Panther!.. and trying to create the muscle memory for the click and pick (like in measure 8). Do you use a rest stroke for those? That is the only way I can get that but it feels so staccato when I do.
Most useful 10 minutes I've spent this month .... Thanks 👍🏻💯🔥
I'm so glad!
let me share my story here. I'm self-taught guitarist-amateur, I've been playing for 10 years or so. I was always result-driven. So having employed wrong techniques, capitalizing on bad habits unknowingly walking my path gave me a big source of depression, discomfort, anxiety. It's like you have a lot to say but you can't pronounce a single word correctly. Persue of instant gratification is not the best way to learn. It is so disappointing when you try so hard achieve something, but lack of time, communication, curiosity negate all your efforts. I've spent sometime on this channel and it made so big difference/gain for me. I would add that you should also be curious, sometimes it hard but try to listen to new music it can stir up the interest. If you find yourself struggling with guitar, try to reframe excersices as a form of meditation. Always have a critical view on your daily routine, think what and why you're doing. Try to rationalize. It sound obvoius, but I personally spent hell of the time figuring this out. And good luck on the Bards path :)
This is the 3rd or 4th time I have taken a look at this video: I always find inspiration!!
Not a single advice is superfluous; they are all pure gems.
You are not only an extraordinary guitarist: you have exceptional communicatve skills. You express all these concepts in a very clear, warm and inspiring way.
We all congratulate ourselves for having you at the other side of the screen.
Nathan:
I’ve been playing and teaching for 44 years (ouch!) on and off (mostly on) and I truly agree with all of the things this guys is saying!!! Most of these concepts are notions I have tried to imbue in myself and my students ad nauseam. These are all golden nuggets that will move you forward a bit at a time ... it’s like watching your hair grow: you don;t see the progress, but eventually your hair is longer, i.e. eventually you area better guitarist. C’est la vie! Good job on this video! Kudos! And remember: Guitar playing is a LIFELONG endeavor. Awesome!
This video is pure Gold. Every piece of advice is valuable
I always come back here when i feel discouraged playing guitar :)
The tip you didn't give comes out loud and clear in this video - enjoy playing. I've spent too much time beating myself up about my faults and letting perfectionism get in the way of enjoying myself. The 5 times rule is one I'll take to heart, also practice slowly, and maybe, more than anything, commit to playing in public. Thank for this helpful - and humorous - video.
Nathan, this was the absolutely best collection of tips and advices I discovered for playing guitar. I was watching a lot of guitar videos in the last months because (I don‘t lie) you and Edgar Cruz (the queen arrangements...) motivated me to pick up my 25 year old classical guitar after years and years not touching it. That’s why I just wanted to say thank you!
Btw, for me tip 1 (and 2) are the most important!!
Thanks this really helped. I am 14 years old and I have been playing Guitar for the past 3 months and I have at least 8 songs I play each day and some day I really don’t feel like playing but ones I play I forget about everything and turns out to be an hour maybe even 2 sometimes so I just wanted to say again thanks for the advice.
Well, I'll be coming back to this video many times in the future. Thank you for the book recommendations!
Hope it helped!
Jz found this channel today. Damn, I loving this guy, he's speaking all the truths and encourages us at the same time. Subbed.
Great recommendations, superb video production, and a very clean house!
Haha 2 kids, you know how it is!
Many of these tips are good enough to warrant a full video.
Any specific ones in particular that you would like me to expand on in a dedicated video?
Great advice and you are getting really slick at editing videos.
We out here
What most impt for me:
1. Avoid mistakes by practicing extremely slowly
2. Try to know every note in fretboard
3. Memorize the pieces as quickly as possible. So u can practice other techniques
4. Use mirror or phone while practice for check your expression, prevent the weird face
5. Test your memory with imagining playing the guitar with closed eyes
4. Use timer
ALL are good advice, play slowly but beautifully and play for others. And especially the sock! I did not realize this until I had to play Schumman’s Fremder Mann, have to “glide” from 2nd string to 6th string. Thank you so much!
Please do some right hand/ Left hand techniques and how to practice them. Most of us are self taught or self trained classical guitarist that really missed out on the fundamentals of picking/chord placing/fret movement.
Please help us unlearn all these bad habits and improve for the better good.
Thank you.
My best ten minutes of 2020
Thanks this has really inspired me to carry on.
Just want to say thank you for your videos...I'm 45, just learning the guitar and you make it so much less daunting, Thank you! As an educator myself, I have to say you are brilliant.
Thomas Frank is looking good 😮
Excellent video! You taught me that I need to start spending more time playing as opposed to searching and collecting more beautiful guitars to play...
A must listen to and watch every other day!!!! Thank you ☺
One of the most important videos I ever watched. Thanks a lot❤
Great and succinct advice!
Awesome content-wise as this, what really impressed me is the beautiful filmmaking all the way through. So creative!
I really appreciate that!
Wow, this is great. Thank you!
For me the most helpful at this moment is the 5 times challenge.
Thanks for sharing
Nice Advice good bless you 🌹🌹
Thank you sir
Fantastic video
Great tips thank you, I saved the video to my favorite collection to watch again and again.
Thank you very much for the amazing video, if you think about it many of your tips are also very useful for life deadlines not only for guitar practice.
Much appreciated
9:10 onwards
Subtle flex.
Such a good video!
Your videos in this channel makes me want to learn more and more about guitar and music theory. Thanks man !
This is great :)
Good job! This is indispensable. Thank you.
THAT KNUCLE TIP HELPED ME HUNDRED FOLD THANKS BRO
I don't quite understand what he was saying. Do you think you could elaborate?
@@katieshelton8117 bro this has been three years so it took me a while to recall.
So what he was saying is this
have you watched "Fingerstyle" guitar players on youtube ? the ones who use steel strings?
Most of them dont pluck like classical guitarists. correct? check their hands.
You will notice that a classical guitar player can have very stationary pluckin hands since we do not pull from the fingers but we usually pluck with the knuckle.the force of your pluck comes from your knuckle. that is more efficient and has less unnecessary movements.
In fingerstylers who dont practice properly their plucking unlike classical players you will see them CLAWING their fingers when they pluck. they are not mostly using the force of their knuckles ..sorry kinda hard to explain but you get my point dear?
I got a bit better since this video. I even uploaded some videos of me playing. you can take a look at my hands. its not perfect but I think a beginner can relate more to a newb like myself as well.
I am particularly proud of my Bach Prelude upload. it would mean alot if you can feedback on it by comment
good luck on your journey please do tell me more about your progress
This is the GOAT right here
Heyyyy what's up brother!
supergood videos man, nice editing, and extremely helpful. subbed!
may I ask how long you have been playing the guitar? =)
cheers
This video is such an impact to memory ! Thanks Nathan
It was useful and funny! Thx
Great advice and well worth revisiting every couple of months. Thank you Nathan.
Thanks for sharing this, it's such a complete tips to keep in mind in my practicing habit👍
Most important tip, breathing. I don't know how many times I had to help patients to breath easier. Including several music professors.
Needed this man. Thank you ❤️
very helpful and comprehensive, thank you
Nice!
I want that sweater!!
Thank you 😊 very much
I have also one: check your different guitar necks. If they are very different, it's going to mess up your perfect muscle memory.
amazing video a lot of essential information in there ! Really liked the comment about the nail loll :P
thank you.
Great channel!
Thanks! Helpful tips👍🏻!
I had to get to ABRSM Grade 7 before I could slow down and practice slowly. And now you say go slower. Ha ha. You're right!
Hey Nathan, I doubt you'll see this now but what song did you play at 44? (8:56) I like it and wanna try to play it
Una limosna por el amor de dios
@@BeyondTheGuitarAcademy Thanks a lot! :)
Very good content.
Practice slow, got it. How do you know when to speed up? All ready do the 5 times thing.
My #1 tip is to primarily do what you enjoy. Sure you should practice the boring stuff too but if you are so bored that you end up quitting then you wont come very far.
This helps
I play for over 15 years, just to start recording and recognize how terrible it sounds.. Pauses, buzzing, mistakes.. Man this instrument is just HARD to learn - and I don't mean songs are. They are quite easy to learn.
I will follow those tips. Thanks ❤
a spanish flamenco guitarist once gave me the best tip that ive held in my heart and has served me better than any tip in over 30 years of practice:
“lock yourself in your room and eat that fuckin guitar alive.”
some people will never get it.
Damn this was helpful
That last tip though 😂
Is there any chance you have a blog or something printed so I can just quickly refer back to the list? I'm watching it again...
@02:40 : DUDE, water is precious ! How many liters went to the sink ?!
And... you brush your teeth BEFORE coffee? What the hell !!
Beside this, your video was awesome ;)
I think the biggest game changer is recording yourself with a cam. Watch what's happwning there. Test also how many times you need to play something good...
whats the song at 9:15 ?
I'm trying to learn the Tobey Maguire spiderman theme you put out, but those arpeggios are kicking my ass I'm just not fast enough lol
Por favor coloca legenda em português 🇧🇷
Hello, my question, which A-frame do you use? as lefty, I have tried several frames. on closer inspection, these turned out to be NOT semetric, which turned out to be the reason for unwanted back pressure from the frame. the frames have been returned. currently I am using a guitar footrest. thanks for your attention. Vny :-)
"slow" is an adjective. the adverb you're looking for is "slowly"
What nail file do you recommend?
Glass nail file and micro mesh to polish after filing. ;)
I work all the time!!..but I still manage to play everyday at least 20mins....😃👍...
Get ittttt!
i dont like the practice slow idea unless i want to get good at playing something slow which i sometimes do. but id rather practice not just slow or fast but REFINED.
My hardrive couldn't process after practice slower.
In the Sovviet Russia, Guitar plays you!
I don’t think you missed anything.
You’re left-handed but right eye dominant; you’ll improve your playing 100fold if you follow your left hand with your left eye rather than your right, that’s why you’re good at guitar but sucked at pool or racket sports. THANK Y😇U FOR YOUR VIDEO; REMEMBER GREATNESS IS OUT LOOKING FOR YOU, SO BE READY!! 😇😇😇😇😇😇😇
Playing guitar feel harder than dark soul
Wow! 497 likes and jusr one dislike.
Number 14 is one of those things that are heard once and repeated but not necessarily true. Chris Parkening method no 1. P. 17 show mid knuckle as the active joint during free stroke. I think this one needs to be elaborated on a bit more.
Christopher Parkening is an incredible player, but I disagree with him on that point. I believe the mid-knuckle joint should be part of the motion, but a secondary motion. The reason the main-knuckle should be the primary source of the motion is because it's quicker, stronger, and produces a better tone. To produce a nice tone, you have to push the string down in toward the body of the guitar. This is easier to do when the motion is coming from your main knuckle. The mid-finger joint is more likely to cause you to pull up on the strong or pull from the side, both of which will produce weaker tones. For the strength and speed, compare the 2 by wiggling your finger. Keep your main knuckle stiff and just wiggle your finger from the mid-joint. Then keep your mid-joint stiff and wiggle from the main knuckle. You can feel a drastic difference in the speed and tension. The main knuckle motion is naturally quicker and requires less tension.
But, to each their own. Again, Christopher Parkening is a fantastic player, and just like in any field, people will disagree on certain aspects of the methodology. If you can objectively make a case for the motion coming from the mid-finger joint being a better option, other than the fact that Christopher Parkening recommends it, I say go for it. It's always important to look at the reasoning behind techniques, rather than just taking somebody's advice as law. My own included!
@@BeyondTheGuitarAcademy First of all, thank you for your reply. I respect what you do and I think it matters, which is why I am challenging you on this point.
The active joint should be mid knuckle during free stroke because it gives you a finer sense of control. Using the larger knuckle is good when there is a string behind to stop the stroke but free stroke requires greater acuity and precision. Yes, the power ultimately comes from the big knuckle, but that is not what you said in the video. The follow-through of the stroke needs to be controlled by the mid knuckle, and as such is the focal point during free stroke.
I challenge this because I've wasted many hours trying to making my mid knuckle inactive while the large knuckle is the only thing moving, and I did this because people on youtube were telling me to do it without elaborating. I still think the mid knuckle technique makes the most sense for me, but perhaps there are still things left to explore. I appreciate your explanation and your time.
I realize I'm chiming in 4 years after this discussion, but I think there are some points to be made here, and I'm coming in to agree basically with allsoortsoffolk's post. I'm thinking the reference to Chris Parkening method No 1 p.17 should have been page 15, yes? If so, interestingly Mr. Parkening's text states "In both the free stroke and the rest stroke the finger motion starts from the knuckle." However, in both the diagram and the RH photos the "active joint" is shown to be the mid-finger joint (between the knuckle joint and the top joint)! Notwithstanding this confusion, there is always some ambiguity among the descriptions "active joint," "the start of the motion," "the primary sources of motion." It might be that Mr. Parkening sees no contradiction here, that the stroke STARTS from the knuckle but that during the stroke the mid-joint is the more ACTIVE.
I don't agree that the large knuckle is quicker, stronger, or produces a better tone, especially if its freedom of motion and independence has been consciously developed. When playing free stroke at an oblique angle from slightly above the string, the string displacement downward (with some assistance from the gravitational weight of the right arm) can produce tones that mimic those of rest strokes. It seems that everyone repeats the same orthodoxy that "the power comes from the knuckle joint," while watching their videos closely does not confirm. Similarly, "Always follow through to the palm" is (IMHO) another false canard. Chris Parkening uses a LOT of motion from both joints (appropriate given that he's said they are BOTH employed)--but try watching John Williams' videos where you can see his right hand and you will see an i finger that obviously is the more active joint and the primary source of his projection.
501, 502
If I follow all these tips for 10 lifetimes, will I be able to play as well as Kyuhee Park? Just kidding....
i cant get over the fact you brush your teeth before having breakfast
who wants to taste their stanky sleep breath while eating breakfast??
its unhealthy if he eats/drinks something acidic like orange juice and then brushes his teeth
play it 2x. speed learn in just 5 mins.
Not every High Action Guitar is good
Learn a song ? Who’s singing?
Pensé que ibas a tocar JAJAJAJAJAJA nose el pinche inglés
Blowfish rofl