Knipex vs Preciva Ferrule Crimping Tool
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- Knipex vs Preciva Ferrule Crimping Tool
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I also bought the Perciva and they have been good for a good 18 months. If the knipex were £50 I’d probably buy them just to have the option for 16mm but not worth the £120 price tag.
Good call
They probably sell 3 times the amount at €60. Surely they can't be that expensive to make.
@@9plusinstalaciones Their target market are probably professionals and companies. They'll happily pay a premium price.
@@ian1352 are you saying this person is not a professional
I use the preciva, it’s a brilliant little kit. For the cost and the amount I use it couldn’t justify paying out for knipex.
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Nice thanks
Same here mate, mine have been getting abuse on the outside pocket of my tool bad and has held up well for a couple of years
Plus you could buy 5 of these for price of knipex! Wouldn't hurt so much when they went walkies.
I had the preciva for 6 months and they just broke on me , just ordered the knipex so I'm hoping I get longer. I use mine a LOT at work so preciva just weren't fit for the task but good for having around the house
Making 5 dents instead of 4 might also be a reason why the Perciva needs more force. It also means you get a more thorough connection.
I have both (the Knipex made in germany, and the china-made "Perciva" shown in the vid), from what I feel when crimping with both, the Knipex is easier and smoother to press beause of the mechanism which is somehow superior - both crimpers look almost identical from the outside, but when you slowly press and listen, you clearly understand that the knipex has slightly different mechanism in it, you will not notice much with the small ferrules, but anything from 6mm2 or above (the Knipex can do up to 16mm2) you see it's so much smoother with the Knipex.
Don't forget, the Knipex is made in such a way that it should be used by professionals, sometimes an installation person might be crimping with this tool a few good hours a day (large electric installations)
@@davideyt1242 Do you think Knipex are taking us for a ride with the prices though!!?? I'm loyal to the brand, always put my hand in my pocket and pay their prices, but I also feel like a mug afterwards.. haha.
My father and grandfather were electricians so I naturally followed in their footsteps, beginning my apprenticeship in 1963. As a lad I took it for granted that sparkies were intelligent guys with a variety of experiences - some were WW2 veterans , some Korean war vets but almost all had been in the services and seen something of the world. Fast forward to 2013 when I retired and most tradesmen , from all trades, seemed to me like semi literate yobs knowing nothing about anything except football and talking in a series of grunts in comparison to those in the 60s.
Then I found your channel. You’re a breath of fresh air my friend , you present yourself as intelligent and articulate. Just like a traditional electrician. Good - I can die happy knowing things have returned to how they should be after decades of decline.
Haha! I'm a construction engineer and you're unfortunately very right! They are as close to children as you can get. Just the other day I was trying to explain that he couldn't change the construction from the drawing without checking with me because I've actually done the calculation to see if the concrete construction can stand up to forces. He couldn't understand why he just couldn't change it the way he wanted. I just walked away.
@@HaasGrotesk And did the building fall?
@@SeriousSchitt It was actually a bridge but no. No changes were made because I didn't approve them.
@@HaasGrotesk Oh I see, thanks.
@ruadhagainagaidheal9398 What tools brands did you use in your time in 60s-70s?
I’ve had my preciva over 3 years using very regularly and never had the problems you’ve had. Great tool.
I've had the knipex ones for about 5 years with maybe 10-15 crimps daily and they're still going strong
Cheap one is fine for everyday use by domestic electricians. More expensive crimpers can be calibrated and issued with a certificate and serial number for traceability. They are engineered to produce consistent crimping with acceptable tolerances for ISO4001. You get what you pay for. Thanks for the vid though 👍
Awesome thanks!
Very awesome point of view bro very much love this comment.
Preciva will wear out quicker, but the knipex will disappear quicker. The knipex is too expensive for most electricians
True
But you can buy 6 pairs for the same price as the Knipex and get over 7000 ferrules included
I can buy 6 of the Preciva before I spend the same as the Knipex. If it wears out after 3-4 years, that's still 24 years for the same price as the expensive one.
@@PL-VA if you use these tools so much that you can wear them out, you would strain your hand to crap using the cheapo pair.
besides nice tools are a joy to work with, i hate the feeling of cheap tools, you are almost scared to use them.
If they break on a job you have to magickly make a new pair appear or else you have to drive from a client and waste time, because you cheaped out on your tools, and at that point the knipex would have paid for themselves in "non-wasted" time.
@@ItsBoyRed i use the perciva ones almost daily and crimp hundreds of crimps a day. This really underrated them. They are not stupidly stiff and they do not cramp your hand in the slightest. Truely would tell anyone to not waste their money on the knipex ones.
I got an unbranded pair of ebay 2 years ago, still going strong, not used every day as I only do domestic. Great when cutting down RCBO neutrals. Well worth the £12. I paid.
Thanks, I was really wondering what the difference was. I'm going to be using small wires only, so this was really helpful.
Being a bit of a tool snob I love knipex and own quite a few if their products, but I went for cheap and cheerful with my pin head crimpers and couldn't be more happy
same story here
In my experience with China-made tools, they usually require lubrication before use; and in some cases even a thorough cleaning to get out all the dried and crusty factory grease/oil before re-lubricating. I learned this trick from other comparison (and tool review) videos and it has mostly proven to be true in my experience -- often improving the tool significantly.
DIY'er here. Got the Preciva because Nick Bundy said it was good! Have used it for an outdoor socket and worked well, but then I will use it probably for just a few crimps a year.
I do need to get some ferrule crimps so thanks for the video. We use in my next project.
I've got myself a preciva based on TH-cam reviews as I needed it for a home project .
And I think its a nice well made piece of kit and with very good performance device with a premium quality feel to it. Its great and I would recommend it
Was the adjustment 'wheel' set right?
I'd be interested if the Preciva was oiled and 'worked' if it became smoother.
I'm a home DIY'er and use the Perciva and for Amateur Radio Operator and home DIY'er its literally perfect. Also it loosens up with use so not quite so stiff! I cant justify the cost of the Knipex at £120 for the little amount of ferrules I use. And in reference to your comments at 13:50 re longevity, I can only say that mine have only had light use but 5 years later they are still working and looking as good as the day I got them.
I always preferred my open ended crimp tool. Used to use wago terminals as standard to save time. So I would go cheap on this tool.
I'm a university technician who occasionally builds small electrical devices, like 1-phase motor controllers, pneumatic controllers, stuff like that. usually just boxing up black-box devices along side a power supply and an IEC connector.
6mm is enormous for what I do, I rarely see much above 1.75mm-2.5mm, so the Preciva is perfectly adequate for me. 🙂
Nice! A few months ago I started my job as the electronics technician for a university chemistry department. Sounds like similar to what you do!
Hi mate great video, if you set the tension of the cheaper preciva ones to the middle , they will work more easier, hope this helps. Keep up the great work 🤙🏼🇦🇺
My main crimper is a Klauke K37.
Very, very expensive new but now over 15 years old and still crimps like a boss within tolerance. And it has done thousands and thousands of crimps...
Excellent
I think the differences become more apparent when using the very fine gauge wire sizes. The cheaper crimps fail to make consistent reliable connections. Also the Knipex can be used with 2x4mm twin ferrules. The same cant be said for the perciva. The increased wire gauge range, ability to use twin ferrules, and reliability of connections in all sizes justifies the Knipex price to me.
my point of view is:
1. have a one-off DIY project where you crimp 5-10 ferrules? or plan to only crimp a couple ferrules a year - you could get it done with the china-made crimper,
2. plan on multiple projects which involve crimping dozens of ferrules especially higher gauge (6mm2 or more) - no need to think - get the Knipex!
Disclaimer: I have both the Knipex and the chinese-made crimper (in this video it has the "Previca" brand name on it), from the outside they look very similar, the crimping action is also almost identical, the Knipex however beats the china-made crimper in every possible way, if you can afford it
@@davideyt1242 It's not worth buying knipex for 120 euros, this product is just a waste of money, so Preciva is very good, but for the same job, it seems to me that you will buy knipex just for the name, nothing else, but you still have your opinion, and for me both parties are the same as in power and generally in order...!!!
No way, you can adjust the force on those! Not worth buying a knipex.. the quality of that thing is perfect, now you always have those people arguing that this and that is better just because they paid 100bucks more for something. But in the case of these tools... na nah.
I absolutely love my cheap ferrule crimper, never had issues with it. But i was afraid to order chinise ferrules, wasen't sure if those are made of correct material etc.
What's your tought on the chinise ferrules included in the kit?
I use the knippex at work all day at work for the control panels the springs do fail after a while but can be replaced the perciva would not last a month with the amount of ferrules that are crimped.
having said that i have bought one for home.
The perciva are adjustable undo the small screw and turn the toothed wheel that will make crimping easier on larger conductors, a pull test on the ferrule after wards to ensure the cable is secure.
Great!
@Tools4Sparks crimp over 50 ferrules a day ranging from 0.5mm to 50mm dependong on the circuit the go to crimpersfor me are the cembre crimpers which they do a variery in differnet models fortunatley the company provides aa they are nearly as dear as the knipex and we send off for calibration once a year.
And we also use battery crimpers for cables 25mm to 240mm ⚡️💪🏻
I’ve got the 6 jaw Preciva and not having the same problems as you are on all sizes up to 6mm but unfortunately I didn’t realise it didn’t do the 10mm but I’ve done hundreds with it and mainly use it for and insulated
Great informative review Jordan, I am going for the Perciva as I use bootlace ferrules as a DIYer, therefore usage would be occasional so I fully agree if I was a pro electrician or panel builder, the Knipex option every time, as the extra £100 over years would payback. Buy top quality.. buy once, buy cheap.. replace!
Ok, first I'll preface my question by saying that I know that if I ask said question, then the answer is likely going to be "no" or some similar variation thereof...
As someone who uses a ferrule crimper for "DIY", what exactly do you that requires a crimper? I don't know where you're from, but I am from the US, and as far as I can tell a crimper of this type isn't very much used over here, aside from specialized use cases, such as car audio. Of course, judging by the fact that it's mostly Europeans doing ferrule crimper videos, well, that also tells me they're used more, "across the pond", as some say... I would like to know what people use these crimpers for in general, because I would like to know if there's some specific thing that I might at some point do or perhaps do now, that could be done better by adding a ferrule. Currently, I can think of only one or two small circuit boards that I currently have that would benefit from connecting wires being connected using tiny ferrules, but I'm not sure if getting a crimper and a box of ferrules would be worth it for just four or eight connections
I'm an electrical protection engineer and I'm using a copy of the preciva called Mr quality! Haha. I'm using it in a simulated commissioning job atm and, to be completely honest, I love it. I'd imagine that the knipex would probably last a lot longer.
Interesting Video!
I heavily use one of these at work, but not one that crimpes sideways, but one that is rotable and we mostly use it forward.
After like REALLY lot of crimping i would never switch back to sideways
Thanks for sharing!
@@wilbertvandenberg3158 Currently a Weidemüller brand WEID PZ6 ROTO L, since my last one sadly broke after years of heavy service
@@caked3953I have the side-only version of that at work, but I need to get a second crimper, and I think I’ll get the rotatable one on your advice.
@@tookitogo that comment is so old, I did quit my job and I am now a energy engineering student.
I had to crimp a lot of sensoric cables with 40 and more wires and I still like forward crimping more.
I think the only downside is when you crimp big diameters, since the more rounded shape of sideways crimpers fits easier into places ( like 10mm2 )
I am happy that I could help you!
Knipex taking the p155 i think.
I've had the Perciva for a couple of years now, does what I need it to do for the limited situations that require it and it's still working as good as it dis when I bought it.
I can tell you what works good for me for Ferrules and Ferrule crimping from 4 AWG to 18 AWG (equivalent for Weidmuller is actually always listed as a metric Ferrule and metric Ferrule crimp) is to use Weidmuller Crimpers and Weidmuller Ferrules. You have options for Ferrule plastic cover color, Ferrule length and the shape of crimp (depending on the tool chosen). The most popular crimp is a rounded side style called Trapezoidal Indentation Crimp. This crimp fits well in a rounded cavity (circular) with a rounded tip set screw (usually torqued per equipment manufacturer guidelines). For a square Ferrule crimp I also use a PressMaster crimper.
I recently had to replace my Preciva after someone stole my original. The new one is slightly different to the old one and is a fair bit better. It does all I need every time
I have a cheap set and they are well over a year old now with no problems
Thanks matey! I'll get the cheapo one then, even though i have been buying Knipex and Wera stuff recently. I like that Knipex barrel shaped stripper you have.
I use the manual crimping tool from knipex. Works just as good and cost me only 29€ while still having a durable tool. If you constantly crimp a lot of different sizes, then this tool is more practical I guess.
Excellent review.
Thank you kindly!
I brought a cheep set and was impressed, as I’m not an electrician so thought I would buy cheep. All was good and well until today! Only done about 40 crimps!! the e-clip had come off of the arm retaining pin so couldn’t finish the job without being mindful of holding the pin in to keep the arm together! Definitely gonna buy the Knipex, by cheep buy twice! But suppose I could just get some e-clips but like reliability and now want some that can do 16mm anyway.
interested in buying one of these, have you compared the channel lock pliers on your channel? fellow sparky here and the're the main choice in aus
I have had earlier 10 mm2 version of those knipex ones for about 10 years now. They are nice and have survived just fine. But. Couple first crimps in the video show their weakness, as after you are done, the handle kicks out and hits that table. Its not that bad for making 5 crimps at a time, but i was doing some project where i had to crimp about hundred 6 mm2 ferrules in a row. My hand was so sore after that, i could not squeeze any tools for a day. Knipex should add some shock absorbing to that ejecting phase to save our hands. That kick does not even happen at where the handles are closest together, but when you are already loosening your grip and then it hits you. Still, those are the best i have ever tried. Does those chinesium ones have that sudden kick?
I don’t have the knipex. I use ELpress. It has the pressing “jaws” in the front. It makes it much easyer, when you don’t have so much space to work on. The model nr. is: Elpress miniforce EEB0160. Thank you for the video. (Danish spark)🇩🇰
Cool thanks for sharing
I don't normally go for cheap tools but I did get a pair of these crimpers from China. I paid €15.23 for them, as the Wiha (my preferred manufacturer) were €180 but mine have a 6 point aperture so the bootlaces are nearly round when crimped and they work well, albeit not as smooth as other tools I have. Mark
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I have a pair of iwiss that are the same as the preciva but have orange handles Ive use daily for about 3 years now building control cabinets and they still work flawlessly. I bought 2 spare pairs of the identical iwiss as backups because i wasn’t sure how long they’d last. but one pair is still in the package and the other pair I use as loners. Id guess the pair I use daily have done at least 100,000 or more crimps done with them and still going.
All my pliers are knipex and wont buy anything else anymore when it comes to pliers.
But for ferrule crimpers Ive had good life out of the $22 iwiss I don’t see myself ever switching.
Cool thanks for sharing!
Just bought delivered yesterday £30 i do like them glad i got them not found them hard or stiffer a (five year old can squeeze them)to use not yet needed to adjust them. to me they don’t look cheap at all and thanks for the video big help, i just wished they had put some non insulated ferrules
I have found that you can fairly easily remove the insulation using a pair of multi-grips and carefully pressing it off (placing the connector lengthwise in the multi-grips).
I bought the preciva and I only use them on flex and RCBO . Not had any problems. I can’t justify the knipex or wiha price tags for the work I do. Great review. And I’ve now subscribed 👍
First bought knipex about 40 years ago great tools but have became unjustly expensive this is a prime example. you used to find some tools were the same quality when you bought draper which makes knipex
Which ferrules do you use on the neutral on the Rcbo ?
Cheers great videos
Don’t the neutrals on all RCBO have a ferrule on already? I presume that’s coloured.
I brought a wiha crimping tool 3 years ago for £82. It crimps the bootlace ferrules to a hexagonal shape. The reason for this is more surface area contact within the terminals. Great bit of kit, so far so good.
Most ferrule ratchet hex crimpers are $18 (on the expensive side!) and cheaper on Amazon too. You just search for “hex” versions instead of the standard 4 sides. Wiha is way too overpriced on most things. Knipex is probably cheaper today. 4 sided crimps are for square holes or flat washer screw terminals. You use the hex for rounded set screw terminals. (97% of the time used in car audio). So you really need BOTH kinds to really accomplish everything. Just buy a ratcheting crimper that comes with multiple tips/crimps that can be changed out for which job you’re working on. $30 can get you into GOOD quality ranges.
A hex ferrule crimp will give a larger contact area in screw terminals with round holes; square crimps give a larger contact area in screw terminals with flat holes, as well as in spring-cage terminals. Trapezoid crimps work well in both.
@@hardtymz2517I have come to like the trapezoid crimp shape because it works well in both. However, self-adjusting trapezoid crimpers are harder to find and tend to cost more, and I don’t think I’ve seen Chinese clones of them. (There are lots of cheap trapezoid crimpers with an individual nest for each wire size, but the self-adjusting ones have proven elusive.)
I was working on a small home project and decided to pick one up off eBay I'm really disappointed I didn't get the fancy case.
I didn't pay attention to brand. There's two kinds of Brands the brands that make their own stuff and the brands that slap their logo on and triple the price.
Sadly it's not always true that if you get a big branch of the something to last forever I wish it still was it's hard to find those tool brands.
I'm glad that all my terminations are adequate in my UPS changeover switch oh yeah it's also water resistant came in handy that way.....
I figured if I like the way it worked I would save up and make my next one a better one.
Nice comment thanks
I've the klauke version if you think the knipex is dear don't look at that one I went with it due to the hexagonal shape it leaves fits the round terminals better and it does up 16mm and twin 10mm in the one tool very handy for distribution boards for me in Ireland. Though after seeing this video I'd recommend the cheaper one to the apprentice and might get one for the bag keep the klauke safe for data I'm working on Db's. Great vid
Nice thanks
Just a quick noob question, is it safe to use these connections on 240v mains electric?
Very well done, man! 👍🏻 may you take a look on the Knipex MultiCrimp one time? Peace Yo ✌🏻
Do these Knippex pliers crimp the Deutsch round barrel connector pins?
Found an old pressmaster krb-0560 in work and I was delighted, thing had be forgotten up in the i beams for Years, I didn't just take it either, I saw it, and it was still there 6 months later. Sounds like fair game to me. Also you pronounce the "k" in knipex (kn-ipex)
Pressmaster are fantastic tools. I've had my pressmaster crimp tools for over 15 years there bomb proof.
Got the Perciva ones and don’t have to squeeze any where near as much as you were so you may just have a dodgy pair, which is probably a more regular occurrence with them only costing 20 quid
I also went for the budget kit with ferrules,under £15 Amazon, seems to work absolutely fine. When you can replace a tool 8 times over and still be the same price as the premium brand then its a no brainer as long as it works ok and for a decent amount of time.
It depends how much you use a tool. Not often for a domestic spark I guess.
If you’re dong industrial stuff and use these day in day out it’s worth paying the extra.
I'd rank them slightly differently. Once you're doing a few dozen crimps per day, the Knipex have it in terms of ergonomics and hand fatigue. Any tool that tires your hand strength even slightly is a bad tool. I'm building a CNC control box soon, and it's about this point where I have to question whether a cheap tool is a wise investment or a false economy, or simply buying the quality tool, absorbing the cost and still having the quality tool is best.
Almost all my pliers are knipex. But the only time I use ferrules crimps is on my 3d printer/cnc builds so it makes little sense to go for knipex. I agree that a quality tool is a solid investment, but I cheaped on this one and went for Perciva since I dont use them daily. Nice non biased comparison.
Been wondering about those cheap crimpers 🤔 will get a set for the college bag
Nice!
They have a new version of that perciva one, it's genuinely really good. So much better than the original slot crimps. It's orange btw. Can buy 5 for the price of one knipex one. Only goes to like 10mm I think
Is this the 4 or 6 sided crimper?
Personally I like the feel of a well made tool. I hate cheaply feeling tools with a passion so for me it’s the knipex.
@Tools4Sparks: The difference of the crimping force between the tools may be due to the tension (clamping force) adjustment on the side of the tool. I personally prefer a tight crimp/adjustment which translates to more force applied by your hand. That being said, the Knipex is an excellent, high quaity tool.
Thanks for the video =)
Have you had a look at the Wiha Z62000506SB Crimping Tool,found it very good,picked it up for around £100, but my Knipex Self-Adjusting Crimping Pliers 97 are my favourite,can be found for around £100.
And the Preciva is identical to the Idesion crimping pilers.
Thanks I will take a look!
I have just found our Knipex do a Tethered range of hand tools like side cutters,pliers,screw drivers etc for working at height , I don't know why they don't make all their tools like that as they look almost identical to the standard range
Cool
I just use Tool Lanyards attached to my tools,cheaper,similar to Silverline 435294
how often do thse crimp tools have to be caibrated?
I normally buy the real deal but used and it works for me.
You adjust the Knipex for the first test as it was too tight, but not the others, so not a fair comparison on the larger wire.
Iv got the preciva set, i was impressed with the quality for £20 (having nothing to compare to side by side) i think there more than good enough for a electrician, maybe a controls engineer would be better suited to the knipex? Like you I’m a firm believer in you get what you pay for and cant fault knipex but at £100 more i felt the preciva were best for me. And the case is really handy 👍
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Yeah good comment
You’ve got that exact Perciva kit Jordan 😂
Yes you should have adjusted the Preciva for the 10mm.
Are you Artisans brother? 😂 so as many people here I went for the preciva as it does the job even though I love the knipex brand.
Yes i'm his identical twin lol! Or alter ego! 😂
I recently found knipex tools. But I see why a Chinese brand would be as good. So thank you for the review. I guess if you do a lot of crimping you would want a smoother tool. Over time your hands cost more.
I use a cheap crimper for 5 years now. If you are not crimping bigger than 2,5mm it is fine for hobby and household stuff.
Cool thanks
Preciva now £17.84 at Amazon.
Excellent comparison.
Thanks!
I also have got the preciva ones have had them for almost 3 years now use them most days and they still work as good as the day I got them knipex are great but i think your paying for the name with these as the price difference is massive🖒☺
Thanks for the comment! Good to know
You’re definitely not paying for the name, knipex is made in Germany with German resources and the precies in China with cheap resources. The knipex never breaks u buy it one time and never again. The preciva breaks after 5-10 years of heavy use.
These are branded as Knipex but they are made by Rennsteig a company Knipex brought.
My 2 cents: when using ferrules together with screw terminals, a cheap crimper will be fine, because the screw will compact the ferrule additionally. But when using ferrules in spring-cage terminals (push in, lever, etc. like from WAGO), the spring cage will not compact the ferrule any more, so the crimp force becomes important because all of the current flows through the crimped areas only. So for those, I’d only trust a first-party crimper.
(At home, I have a Chinese no-name hex crimper, at work I have a Weidmüller trapezoid crimper.)
What are you striping with?🧐
Ciao, la Preciva come si comporta nella crimpatura dei terminali twin??
Not sure those crimps are meant to be used on "hard/thick" installation cable. Aren't ferrules designed to be used on flexible cable found on portable devices?
Have the exact same set, and it's great!! A must-have tool for DIYers! and maybe even semi-pro's!! For that little money, it's hard to make a sound case for the Knipex!! I love my Knipex pliers, all 25ish of them, but this is just not worth the difference in money, for me as a DIYer...
Would the cheap one work with a crimp lug, where the lug bit is larger than the ferrule bit?
No, they require a different type of crimp. These are bootlace ferrule crimps.
I have a pair of AWG23-7 crimpers off Ebay and they only cost me £12.85 and work great from 0.25-10mm. Again couldn’t justify spending £120 for the Knipex.
What do people think about the ferrules included with these cheap sets? Are they ok to use, or are we wary of them because we can’t be sure what they’re made of etc
Good question
I am an advocate of Adam savage his principle. Buy a cheap version first. See how much you use it during a preset amount of time, lets say a year. If you use it at least a certain amount of time. Buy a new one or buy a more expensive one. It has worked for me so far. But thanks for the video. It is really usefull
I'm the absolute opposite. I tried that theorem 40 years ago, and when they 'clapped', I found myself having to buy the better, expensive ones, made more expensive by the fact that you added the cost of the cheaper ones to the price of the new ones. I now just go straight to the expensive ones and relish the discount!
Adam Savage also abuses his tools by using his good Bondhus T Handle hex wrenches as a hammer, which flies in the face of almost everything I stand for!
the cheaper one is just fine for my line of work but if your installing loads as fitter the knipex would better
I agree!
Well for ~$330 USD I would hope the Knipex would crimp like a dream and make me coffee in the morning!
I appreciate the review. I have one of the cheap under $40 Scamazon kits. My take is that it works-ish. I would think.that they would just copy the parts exactly from a known maker like Knipex, and that the main difference once would be lower quality steel, and maybe poorer tolerance in the parts, though with today's manufacturing that isn't as much of an issue these days.
So I'm surprised the knock off is so much harder to engage. Go figure.
Thanks again!
As an American, i don't use ferrules for anything really, and the main thing I hear of ferrules being used for, is on bigger stuff like 10-2awg car audio wires for when they need connections that don't get mashed, and I'm wondering... Since it's mostly European channels that I see reviewing ferrule crimpers, what these are usually used for in the general workplace, or even at home???
I ask, because I'm wondering whether it might at some point be useful to have a set of ferrules, and a crimper for them, if i can find some kind of everyday thing that they would be good for... What i like doing, when I'm not working on computers, or playing on them, is dabbling in hobby stuff, such as working with cheap Amazon LED strips, in projects, for instance, and possibly DIY electronics in the future...(assuming that might give you a point of reference for my average possible usage case)
Another question I have, is, I'm looking at getting a set of ratcheting wire crimpers, and I'm wondering if some of them might have some kind of ferrule crimp dies for them? It would definitely be easier if I just had 1 tool with hot-swappable dies, space-wise...
Was under the understanding that bootlace ferrules were for fine stranded and not 7 strand cables, such as singles, 4mm plus t & e
You can use them for both
Try using the adjustment for 6mm on the Percival. You obviously didn’t do any pre-testing to understand how the adjustment worked.
Even after you easily crimped the empty terminator it didn’t cross your mind to use the adjuster. Nipex won because you made the necessary adjustment but only on one of the tools.
I have cheap 30 euro ones but just because I use them here and there only. My tool pack is full of Knipex and if I needed I would happily pay 130 euro for these. I don't understand professionals saying it's a same thing. It's not!
For the Perciva doing 5 crimps I like it MUCH better!
Do you need to buy ferrules that are rated for the circuit. 6amp, 32 etc.
Good question! I think its all based on size not rating
I use the crimps daily....I found the ones I like the best are some eBay ones but prefer the 6 way crimp. I love spending on tools and always buy the best I can afford, but £120 for knipex is a game stopper for me. £50 or £60 maybe I'd stay with knipex but they do nothing my cheaper set doesn't.
March 2023, Knipex on Amazon are £151.70 really up in price about same as a kg of tomatoes on ebay.
There is an adjustment on the preciva by the way
I think it really comes down to how often does one need a crimping tool, because most electricians don't use them that often and I'm one of them. At first, I wanted to buy the Knipex, but after I spend some time thinking about it, I've realized that this tool isn't going to be used very often like my screwdrivers, pliers or wire strippers, so I wouldn't benefit that much from getting the Knipex and I'd much rather spend the extra money on other tools.
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I think for professionals you would buy the Knipex as you would use it 100 times everyday. For DIY, where you only do a couple crimps, Preciva will do good enough job.
I was Lucky to get the Nipex set for £5 (second hand)lol the cheap ones spring broke within 2 yrs of using!
Thats awesome
I mean if you're getting 2 year use out of them for that money, they've earned their keep surely. Assuming you used them regular
2 years at £20. So equivalent cost the nipex need to last 12 years. Now if you are very careful and work alone you could get 12 years out of them. But if you work in a team or on sites or even if you are very busy one day and put them down absentmindedly then you are going to be out of pocket. Unless that week grip is vitally important, after all forearms like popeye and we could start to look like plumbers.
@@rodgerq most days yes!
What is you view with using ferrules in wago connectors??
I think it’s fine
@@Tools4Sparks Can't see a problem,I use ferrules with stranded in Wago's,gives me peace of mind,especially if Wago's are going into a location which might be difficult to access them in the future.
Gaz (GSH) recently did an Effix video on crimps and wago
I use percvia no problem .