Logs with 'flaws', like sweep or crotches may exclude them from commodity use but, milling with attention to detail, we can maximize the figure potential of these logs.
Those 8/4 boards will yield some beautiful book matched 4/4 boards when resawed after a period of resting. Enjoyed the video, very entertaining and educational.
I enjoy the video of sawmilling but really appreciate the discussion of the how and why you're cutting in the order you are. Very helpful and interesting. Thanks!
It is just the nature of trees that crotches are usually at the end of a log. When I get a log that has had a crotch in the middle of the log, I try to orient the log so that the figure is optimized. Of course, there is a limit to how wide any mill can cut and I have to mill logs considering the capacities of my particular mill. It is not unusual for me to refer clients to other sawyers if what they want from their log could not be done on my mill. Since my cuts are limited to 24" wide, book matching means that I can generate material for a 2 piece table top up to 48" wide... plus I really like symmetry.
You've got a good set up to take away the back breaking part of milling, a forklift, turntable that operates on the mill to turn the log..saves your back & body in the long run.
Robert. An episode with cancer (surgery, chemo, radiation - 12 years ago) left me with less gross strength (even though I am a big guy) so, when I started looking for a mill, hydraulic functions were high on my list. The Timberking B20 had most of the hydraulic options covered. It is rated for 5000 pound logs so I had to find something that could move a log that size, and I bought the piggyback forklift. Not only does it load logs on the mill, it unloads trailers, moves scrap bundles, and makes it so easy to re-organize the log yard, move a stack to get the one I want, plus move pallets of milled lumber. I really miss it when I am on a mobile job and there is no equipment.
Man , sorry to hear that , glad your still milling my friend, also like the fact that your guys took of each cut piece, instead of leaving it there like a few millers i've seen on you tube...whic makes it hard for the blade to cut through without feathering & dulling the blade out eventually.
If you are going to cancer 'veteran', being 12 years cancer free is a desirable option. I seldom mill by myself but, if I do (or if the off-bearers are busy), I can mill additional boards without too much trouble. The main issue is time, moving the head takes about 2 seconds per inch (a little slower up, a little quicker down), so if an 8/4 plank is left on the cant, it will take an extra 8 seconds, with 2 - an extra 16 seconds, and so forth. When milling by myself, I'll usually mill 2 or 3 before pulling them -saves wear (rotations/flexing) on the blade.
Blade life is desired & less flexing as well, the cleaner the cut the smoother the look & each of your pieces look superb, i'm glad you can make a decent income out of milling ...keep living life to the fullest Tom.
What do these pieces sell for? I had a huge black walnut tree that I had to have cut, and another tree about the same diameter of the one you worked. I tried to contact woodworkers in the area (North Florida), so the wood wouldn't go to waste, but I wasn't ever able to find anyone that was willing to come and get the wood, so it ended up rotting away, which was upsetting, because it could have been used for something.
I am sympathetic to your concerns about seeing potential saw logs wasting away, I do what I can to prevent that. Logs may be intimidating to woodworkers, you need to get an independent sawmill involved - there are a number of them in Florida. As far as cost, it is too complicated a subject to cover here, check out my blog at, live-edge-blog.tomthesawyer.net/the-cost-of-lumber/ for a more thorough discussion. For example, this particular log cost me about $100, and milling it would have cost about $85. The book-matched pairs sold over a period of time. The first, some would say the best, pair sold quickly (within a month as I recall), the last pair had dried for almost 2 years; total yield for the log was $1300. Most told me my prices were too low. :)
Rick, that is a question that has so many variables that it is impossible to answer. A normal skid is 42x44", my skids are 8' long and 12' long. Without knowing the species, thickness, length, width, figure, green/dry, etc., it would a WAG. If those were specified, it would be easier to estimate a cost per board foot (which is how hardwood lumber is sold in this area).
i want to make a table top out of black walnut , where should i try and buy pieces from . I dont really care about the width of the boards but i would like them about 9 feet long .
I live I central Mn...about as far north as you’ll ever see black walnut....I know where there are huge acreage of super nice black walnut trees.... too bad I don’t own any of that land... but I did help cut 6 miles of snowmobile trails thru it.. we marked all the black walnut trees as to not cut any of them... one can dream though
I seldom mill logs from trees that were taken down for their timber value. Most of what I mill were taken down due to disease, construction, storm damage, or landscape hazards. Large standing walnuts, and other species, can be impressive in the forest but, like us, they all reach their peak of maturity and decline quickly afterwards. Even if you were only able to obtain a storm blow down from that woodland, it would have a lot of sentimental value to you.
Thanks for the very nice comments. The intent of most of my videos is to educate people about portable mills, and to inspire them to take on acquiring a log and having it milled into the best lumber it will yield. There are many benefits to milling you own lumber. Of course, it is significantly less expensive but, you can also find species that are not commonly sold in hardwood lumber stores, You also find grain patterns that would be a 'problem' for conventional sources. No, you can't order 100 boards just like it, these are natural and unique treasures. I don't produce commodity lumber, I craft character lumber. What industry sees as flaws, I consider facets. Furniture, not firewood; lumber, not landfill. It is a mindset, and meme, that uses American products, crafted by American craftspeople, for American homes.
When I saw that log on the forklift I thought, THAT'S GONNA BE A GREAT LOG. Your experience really shows, and we appreciate the educational aspect of this video. Well done!
I have watched videos where I couldn't figure out why something was done a certain way, and I have received questions like that from viewers. I try to explain what I am doing, hopefully it is more entertaining, or educational than listening to background music or the rumble of the sawmill engine.
First time watching one of your videos and I really like the annotations where you explain why you are cutting the way you do. Very helpful for understanding the process. Thanks!
It is easy to see that you love your job and have respect for the wood you are working on. I do sculptures in wood and love the way it feels and smells and the wood tells you what it wants to be. You become part of the wood. You really understand the wood you are working on and do an excellent job. Thank you.
Thanks for your compliments. Sawyers have different backgrounds; I wasn't a logger, or a commodity lumber producer ; my background was as a woodworker , working with urban wood. You learn to seek out the best you can get from every log. Milling 2x construction lumber wouldn't be near as rewarding.
Since about August 1st, there has been a big increase in activity for this video. I suspect that someone shared it with a large group and I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate that, and the new subscribers. Sure would like to know where is was shared.
I am, well my wife and I, are redoing a neglected property. 25 acres that has been abused and not managed at all. We are looking into a portable mill to reclaim some of the wood we have to cut out. One of my Facebook friends linked this video to us because of our love of Black Walnut and grow them by the thousands for replanting around Michigan.
Thanks for the reply. 25 acres can be a daunting project. Logging, milling, stacking and drying lumber can have a bit of a learning curve, along with the other things you'll be tackling. Depending on the area you are in, you might consider hiring the milling done. You'll learn a lot by watching the sawyer and asking questions, plus you should have a reliable supply of lumber for your projects. Then, if buying your own mill seems logical, you'll have a jump start on what to look for and how to get started.
From what I understand about the algorithm used, it could be that an "influencer" has been watching this video. If an account TH-cam deems big enough to be an influencer watches a video and hits the like button, their followers will have a much higher chance of seeing the video in their recommended lists. I'm probably not supposed to tell anyone about that but what the heck, I'll just say I guessed it...
Blarg Kliggle thanks for the info. I appreciate whoever was responsible. After 2 years it was at 47,000 views, which was nice, but in the past 6 weeks it jumped to 120,000+ views. Plus, a significant increase in subscribers - also appreciated.
Tom, I sorry, but that walnut does not have that much figure. Not trying to rain on your parade. I ran a flitch mill for a veneer mill for 6 years and we were usually looking for saw logs with potential for a specific furniture customer. We had pretty decent success when logs were selected and yes, I was 1 sorting logs for this. While this offered some, it was nothing spectacular, but hey I'm just a viewer with an opinion and had 20 years experience. What do I know.
I want to add my thanks for the commentary. Knowing the rationale for the cuts add to the educational aspect of your videos. In 1975 and 1976, my late father took my brother Mike and I to a 100 year old Walnut orchard that was being converted to a business park. We harvested many logs the old fashion way. Lots of work with the 1 man and 2 man bucksaws. Thank You for reviving those memories. With Best Regards, Pat
Hopefully you still have something made from that walnut. I often mill sentimental logs. Maybe not the greatest lumber, but if a relative planted the tree, or it was from your childhood home, nothing else can match it.
out of all those combinations i prefered the I-J the best .... and i know they werent from the 3 hearts ... still the prettiest to me ... but loved watching as you cut her open and looked inside !!
In case you read this, how much did it cost you and is there any real savings to be had over the long run if you buy it used (mildly used & treated with TLC)? I'd appreciate knowing and ballpark figures from sonmeone who knows is just fine. Thanks.
I had chance to turn a peace of 150 year old black walnut I made a bowl and 5 sets of BBQ fork and knives the bowl had a mini ball from the civil war in it so I left it it was on the family farm they owned for 70 years thank you for your post enjoyed it
I had 8 black walnut trees in Pittsburg Texas growing in Iron ore probably over 1,200 years old they had like 68 inch bottoms and some sorry son of a b**** stowed my trees if I find this person it ain't going to be good brother thanks for this video but it did bring back bad memories of a few years ago that happened to me
WOW that book match is art and u sir are an artist. Anyone can run a mill but the placement is the wisdom. I've always said burning walnut is a sin. thank you for your time.
Tom nice job maximizing the beauty of the grain patterns and explaining what you were doing. The captions were really helpful. The only thing that could have shortened the video length was to increase the play speed of the actual cut. Thank you. Bill
Someone is just waiting to get their hands on those great looking walnut slabs to make a nice table. Walnut has to be one of the greatest woods that God ever created. Kudos. Great video.
Beautiful and very helpful comments. I am preparing to purchase an Alaskan Chainsaw mill and embark on this journey. Looks like fun! BTW, how long is this log you started with? Thanks again!
Every time I try to sell black walnut the big time Log buyers sawmill thieves they always want to give you fire wood price one big time log buyer Came on my job & offered me $50 a tree for black walnut trees so I called him told to come get These $50 trees we cut them up in 16" lengths The big time log buyer started yelling at me Telling me what the trees were worth & I told him If you weren't trying to Robb me things could have been different this is what u get for $50 fire wood
Supply and demand issues. Not sure where you are from but in this area, walnut is relatively common, and prices may still vary widely. A common retail price for 4/4 FAS walnut, kiln-dried, planed and SLR, is $5-6 p/bf. No saw log will yield 100% FAS, so you have to consider the yield of FAS, 1COM, 2COM, etc., for the total retail value of that log (avg. $2.50-3.50 p/bf). There will be a retail markup that may be 50-100%, lets say $1 p/bf. That means a wholesale value (for the log) of about $2 p/bf). If you allow .50 bf for milling, and .50 for drying, you are down to $1 bf, and you still have transportation and marketing. In my area, I commonly pay .50 bf for average walnut saw logs, delivered to the mill. A 24" x 8' walnut log would yield about 200 bf Doyle, and weigh about 1700 pounds. An average log (grade 2 or 3), delivered here would bring $100. Local firewood prices for hardwoods is $27 p/ton, or $23 for a 1700 pound log. I am paying 4x firewood price, It costs about the same to cut, transport, mill and dry walnut (or other species), regardless of the log quality. The grade yield, and retail value hinge on the quality of the logs. Buyers always want to pay a little less , (it increases their profitability), and sellers would like to get a little bit more. If you have lots of buyers, competition drives the prices up. If you have more sellers, competition drives prices down. You might want to find more buyers.
Hydraulics do make the work easier, and sometimes allow doing things in a certain order rather than worrying about conserving the physical labor associated with turning the log. On really big logs, sometimes the hydraulics will need help from a cant hook on the first couple of turns, but it is a time saver. The cluster of bullets was in an early cut so, although they won't be part of a table top, that unique piece will probably be used for something.
John, the bullets were in the outer 2" of the log, not far under the bark. A walnut log that size may have been about 40 years old. The bullets had probably been there about 5 years.
I took a black walnut log to a sawmill, but they wouldn't cut it, because when they asked how far the tree was from the nearest house, I said, "About 50 feet." Too much chance of metal in it, they told me.
If I hit metal, or anything else, in a log, there is a $15 resharpening fee if the blade is not destroyed. If destroyed, it is $25 or less. Looking at the economics, a 24" x 8' walnut log would yield about 200 board feet and cost you about $100 when cut into 1" lumber. Metal in walnut will normally leave a black stain in the log, from the metal to the bottom of the log. Let's say that in addition to the $15 fee, you also lose 20 bf to black stain. So, instead of 200 bf for $100, you get 180 bf for $115. .50 p/bf vs. .64 p/bf for black walnut... it is still worth it in my opinion. In large operations, especially circular mills, hitting metal can be more consequential. Replacing circle saw teeth will take some time, production is down and employees are standing around. There may also be shrapnel flying. I have hit metal in logs that were not near houses. Bullets, arrowheads, fence wire, fence posts, cables, insulators, nails from signs, tree houses and tree stands. At least with walnut and oaks, there is usually a tell tale stain to let you know about the metal. Some logs may contain so much metal that blade damage costs outweigh the economics of the wood - but those are very rare.
I’m a turner, the first thing we are concerned about is the pith, and getting it out of the piece we are turning. As I watched you mill that log, the pith would be running the length of the slabs cut from the middle. Doesn’t this lead to cracking as the wood dries.
gull1969, none of this material was destined for turners, had it been I would have milled it differently. Every log has a pith, in some cases a sawyer may eliminate or contain the pith (FOHC/HC timbers). You may have noticed that I leveled the log in order to contain the pith as much as possible within a single plank (difficult when you are working with a crotch). That plank will contain the pith, and also the most perfectly quartersawn grain, and often the most figured grain in the log. The pith will often crack, more commonly in thinner planks like 6/4 or less. If it cracks you can consider it a flaw and rip it out of the plank, leaving two narrower boards. Or, you can deal with it as a character facet, fixing it in place with a bow tie dutchmen, or filling with epoxy. Recently I have had clients who are looking for a plank specifically with the pith. In addition to the striking grain, they separate the plank along the irregular pith, spread it apart a few inches, and fill the void with epoxy to create a river table.
I like to leave little dents on the fender of my car, Tom. Gives it a little more character. The uneven throttle we hear is the butterfly shaft in the carb; it is worn and causes uneven air flow. Would it be quicker in leveling the log to tape a level to the long steel rule and eye ball the cut rather than use a measure rule?
I'm a little confused why you milled the two adjacent sides flat first. Wouldn't it be preferrable to leave those slabs live edge on both sides? They could always be ripped later if the design calls for a bookmatch, or if need to edge-glue them. But if you wanted a single slab for a bench, wouldn't it be better to have both edges live? Thanks.
Pete, excellent question. There are several reasons, the primary one being that I visualized that the location of the large limb stub on the side, being inline with the hearts of the crotch at the top, offered the potential for some excellent figure. In my market, the most requested product is for live-edged, table width (32-48") pieces of that length. The cut capacity of my mill is 24" so the only way to get those widths is by gluing up, and a bookmatched set offers the potential of symmetry, which I happen to like. All three sets sold for table tops. Even narrow bookmatches have excellent potential for various furniture projects. On larger logs, I may take a flitch (both natural edges) off the top, and sometimes the bottom, before making the back face cut. I then mill the remainder of the log into live-edge planks. On smaller logs, where a bookmatch would not meet minimum full table size, I may mill flitches to be used for benches, or occasional (sofa, coffee, hall, end, etc.) tables, although I get considerably fewer requests for that material. The last couple of flitches can be challenging to clamp on my mill, due to the irregular edge. Most of the time I am milling clients logs and their desires set the parameters for how I saw the log but, if milling my logs, I usually look to maximize the figure. If I get a log that doesn't offer much as far as figure potential, I'll normally saw it for maximum grade, at least 5/4 since many places around here sell 4/4 lumber.
Thanks for the thorough reply, Tom. That makes a lot of sense. I’ve had a few large logs milled up by local sawyers and being somewhat experienced, I usually ask for the least-altered cuts I can get (while still being manageable size) so that I leave myself as many options as possible. But that wood is all used for my own personal projects. If I were getting wood for projects to sell, I suspect I’d go for cuts that maximize figure, like you, or that offer the easiest and fastest path to being finished and sold. As it is, I got far too much 4/4 and 5/4, and had them save and dry far too many wonky pieces. And now I have wood I’ll likely never use, and yet don't want to toss because I spent good men for it! Argh!
@@PeteTevonian I started out as a woodworker, junior high shop class in the mid 60s (yeah, last century), so it is hard to toss something in the scrap bin when you salvaged it to begin with. It may be 'wonky' for furniture and cabinetry but consider giving it to a turner or carver (if those aren't in your skill set, or on your to-learn list). Doesn't take much highly figured wood to put a smile on a pen turner's face. I find that cutting at 5/4 significantly reduces the number of potential competitors and, if I do need some 4/4 material, it's just a few more passes through the planer.
at the end, when booking them, I see why you took the second cut -- they match better (and you needed to get the width smaller for the figure cuts). After rolling it over, the wedge shaped piece (3rd cut) off the smaller branch could have been larger (an inch maybe) -- I suggest this because a turner would love to work with that piece -- I trust you gave it away, rather than firewood -- or use it for a barn-door stopper, 7o7 (Lots of Love).
That is why you do not mill trees that come from property that has been occupied since the tree was young. For some reason, people leave dogs chained to trees. Get your trees from deep in the forest.
Tim, absolute statements like those find much favor in the commodity, high-volume market for lumber. But, if you consider that our urban forests generate several billion board feet of saw logs each year, you would realize that smaller operations such as mine benefit the environment by keeping those logs out of the landfills, sequester significant amounts of carbon, salvage sentimental or provenance trees, and provide artisans and woodworkers with resources that are not available through the commodity market. My one man operation has helped start several custom woodworking businesses and, in an average year, my milling activities will prevent a quarter million pounds of carbon dioxide from being released into the environment through sequestration - I appreciate that people don't get their logs from deep in the forest (although I will mill those too.)
awesome work..experience and old age..a good combination.. i work for a guitar builder in vienna austria..dont know if i could have done a better bookmatch myself..
James, no, the video speed was not manipulated. For logs around 18" wide, the forward speed through the log will be 2-3 seconds per foot. I listen to the engine (30 hp Kohler) speed closely and, if it bogs down a bit from a change in density (knots, crotch figure), I feather the forward drive speed. On these mills, the large engine only drives the blade, another (6 hp) engine powers the hydraulics system, which includes moving the saw head forward and back, loading, turning, tilting and clamping logs.
I really like yer mill; wish I had one! Do ya have an auto oiler on it? Some of that walnut would make a pretty gun stock. Wouldn't mind having the waste from that!
I turn a lot of black walnut ( boxes, bowls, Christmas ornaments, etc.) and love it. It's gonna be beautiful no matter what you use it for! Take care, Dave
Another sawmill video and no ear protection in sight! (Unless y'all wear those little ear plugs). If not, you'll end up being "Tom the Deaf Sawyer". (RN watching)
Everyone is offered an assortment of safety equipment before we start milling. The roll-up, small ear plugs are the most popular, I go through more than 100 pairs per year. I also provide gloves, dust masks, goggles, eye protection, ear plugs and/or ear muffs, if they wish to use them. Also access to a fire extinguisher and first aid kit (as yet unused). There is even a mention of ear protection in the burr oak log video. Most use the plugs, a few use the muffs (I use both when the big chainsaw is running), some just turn down their hearing aids.
@@tomthesawyervids Yay! Thank you for your reply! I did, of course, take into account that you all might be using the little soft kind of plugs that get pushed way into the ear canal....it's interesting to me how a log becomes a board and the skill and expertise of people at things like this is very interesting indeed!
Clearly you have no idea what you are doing. I will save you the embarrassment of having anyone see that nasty old wood. I'll come pick it up and not charge you for the service. How'd I do! Nice machine, and a skilled operator, fantastic cut, great figure, overall and A+++++++
@@zed5509 Although I ask clients to send me photos of their completed projects, it doesn't happen very often. By the time the lumber is dry, and the project built, they forget. I do get some photos and usually post them on my FB page. Here is one from that log. facebook.com/TomTheSawyerPortableSawmill/photos/pcb.1217610251636919/1217608648303746/?type=3&theater
Very good my man! I bet it will make beautiful table's. I've seen guys screw up some beautiful logs cause they didn't Know what they where doing, but you guys do! Very nice job my friend's!
Not a bad group on the bullets ! Incredible machine , beautiful to watch . Thanks, Ps how long was this walnut aged before you milled it ? TKS That's a bunch of beautiful table tops.
The log was from Butler, Mo and was one of three that I bought (all from the same tree). It had reportedly died and was taken down because it was a potential hazard to the home at that location. It was here for a bit over 2 months prior to milling. Although there are circumstances where letting a log "age" might have specific results, generally, the sooner you process them the better.
There's a black walnut out the back of my house that branches off into 5 or 6 large limbs and has all sorts of different things like burels and such. My father owns the house as an income property and the tree had all its limbs cut off when we moved in. My dad said, "that's too bad, that's black walnut." At my shoulders, it's about a foot wider than me at least shoulder to shoulder. It came back with a vengeance. I've told him he can't cut it down because it's right behind an addition that got so hot when that tree had no limbs candles melted on the countertop. I mentioned what that wood must be worth he said he didn't think so because it's got too many limbs, knots and other things. I bet some beautiful lumber would come out of that tree.
Walnut has a reputation as a very valuable tree, and there are some very valuable walnuts but it is small percentage of the market. The most valuable walnut logs are purchased by the veneer market. Those logs will never be lumber, only thin sheets of veneer, and they require logs that are perfectly straight, with excellent color, absolutely no knots, limbs, decay, twist, scars, off-center heart, etc. Then you have saw logs, graded based on the number of clear faces, and firewood logs. Lots of limbs would indicate a low-grade saw log or a firewood log. There may be some beautiful lumber in the log, but lumber like that presents problems in drying and finishing, and a higher percentage of culled boards. Higher quality saw logs are more likely to yield a higher percentage of usable lumber.
Those 8/4 boards will yield some beautiful book matched 4/4 boards when resawed after a period of resting. Enjoyed the video, very entertaining and educational.
That is some spectacular milling,
beautiful stack of of
well matched slabs.
Thank you for making this video.
Great video and awesome skillset.
EXCELLENT! I learned a lot and thoroughly enjoyed your video, Tom.
I enjoy the video of sawmilling but really appreciate the discussion of the how and why you're cutting in the order you are. Very helpful and interesting. Thanks!
Ok now i see why you cut a straight edge on one side.
Bookmatched pieces look awesome
It is just the nature of trees that crotches are usually at the end of a log. When I get a log that has had a crotch in the middle of the log, I try to orient the log so that the figure is optimized. Of course, there is a limit to how wide any mill can cut and I have to mill logs considering the capacities of my particular mill. It is not unusual for me to refer clients to other sawyers if what they want from their log could not be done on my mill. Since my cuts are limited to 24" wide, book matching means that I can generate material for a 2 piece table top up to 48" wide... plus I really like symmetry.
Very nice, I watched this when you first posted it still a good video to like minded individuals.
Beautiful lumber!!
You've got a good set up to take away the back breaking part of milling, a forklift, turntable that operates on the mill to turn the log..saves your back & body in the long run.
Robert. An episode with cancer (surgery, chemo, radiation - 12 years ago) left me with less gross strength (even though I am a big guy) so, when I started looking for a mill, hydraulic functions were high on my list. The Timberking B20 had most of the hydraulic options covered. It is rated for 5000 pound logs so I had to find something that could move a log that size, and I bought the piggyback forklift. Not only does it load logs on the mill, it unloads trailers, moves scrap bundles, and makes it so easy to re-organize the log yard, move a stack to get the one I want, plus move pallets of milled lumber. I really miss it when I am on a mobile job and there is no equipment.
Man , sorry to hear that , glad your still milling my friend, also like the fact that your guys took of each cut piece, instead of leaving it there like a few millers i've seen on you tube...whic makes it hard for the blade to cut through without feathering & dulling the blade out eventually.
If you are going to cancer 'veteran', being 12 years cancer free is a desirable option. I seldom mill by myself but, if I do (or if the off-bearers are busy), I can mill additional boards without too much trouble. The main issue is time, moving the head takes about 2 seconds per inch (a little slower up, a little quicker down), so if an 8/4 plank is left on the cant, it will take an extra 8 seconds, with 2 - an extra 16 seconds, and so forth. When milling by myself, I'll usually mill 2 or 3 before pulling them -saves wear (rotations/flexing) on the blade.
Blade life is desired & less flexing as well, the cleaner the cut the smoother the look & each of your pieces look superb, i'm glad you can make a decent income out of milling ...keep living life to the fullest Tom.
the clown worx. great job on bookmatching the summer wood
Great video!
I wish we had known someone who wanted a huge black walnut tree we just had cut down. The bottom was 18' no one wanted it.
What do these pieces sell for? I had a huge black walnut tree that I had to have cut, and another tree about the same diameter of the one you worked. I tried to contact woodworkers in the area (North Florida), so the wood wouldn't go to waste, but I wasn't ever able to find anyone that was willing to come and get the wood, so it ended up rotting away, which was upsetting, because it could have been used for something.
I am sympathetic to your concerns about seeing potential saw logs wasting away, I do what I can to prevent that. Logs may be intimidating to woodworkers, you need to get an independent sawmill involved - there are a number of them in Florida.
As far as cost, it is too complicated a subject to cover here, check out my blog at, live-edge-blog.tomthesawyer.net/the-cost-of-lumber/ for a more thorough discussion. For example, this particular log cost me about $100, and milling it would have cost about $85. The book-matched pairs sold over a period of time. The first, some would say the best, pair sold quickly (within a month as I recall), the last pair had dried for almost 2 years; total yield for the log was $1300. Most told me my prices were too low. :)
How much would a skid of lumber bring ??
Rick, that is a question that has so many variables that it is impossible to answer. A normal skid is 42x44", my skids are 8' long and 12' long. Without knowing the species, thickness, length, width, figure, green/dry, etc., it would a WAG. If those were specified, it would be easier to estimate a cost per board foot (which is how hardwood lumber is sold in this area).
i want to make a table top out of black walnut , where should i try and buy pieces from . I dont really care about the width of the boards but i would like them about 9 feet long .
In this area, walnut is fairly common, in some areas it is harder to find. Where are you located?
upstate ny , albany area
Contacted an friend in that area and he recommended Northern Hardwoods (518) 668-4501 or Curtis Lumber (518) 885-5311.
Sweet!!!
I live I central Mn...about as far north as you’ll ever see black walnut....I know where there are huge acreage of super nice black walnut trees.... too bad I don’t own any of that land... but I did help cut 6 miles of snowmobile trails thru it.. we marked all the black walnut trees as to not cut any of them... one can dream though
I seldom mill logs from trees that were taken down for their timber value. Most of what I mill were taken down due to disease, construction, storm damage, or landscape hazards. Large standing walnuts, and other species, can be impressive in the forest but, like us, they all reach their peak of maturity and decline quickly afterwards. Even if you were only able to obtain a storm blow down from that woodland, it would have a lot of sentimental value to you.
Thanks for the very nice comments. The intent of most of my videos is to educate people about portable mills, and to inspire them to take on acquiring a log and having it milled into the best lumber it will yield. There are many benefits to milling you own lumber. Of course, it is significantly less expensive but, you can also find species that are not commonly sold in hardwood lumber stores, You also find grain patterns that would be a 'problem' for conventional sources. No, you can't order 100 boards just like it, these are natural and unique treasures. I don't produce commodity lumber, I craft character lumber. What industry sees as flaws, I consider facets. Furniture, not firewood; lumber, not landfill. It is a mindset, and meme, that uses American products, crafted by American craftspeople, for American homes.
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That is a gorgeous piece if lumber,I've built many guitars and guitar tops using Walnut,I love it
Unfortunately I've discarded more black walnut crotch wood than I can remember. Wish I had it all back, and a Timber King.
Very well done. Would like to mention the camera work was good. I liked the closeups of the grain.
The explanatory comments were really helpful. Thanks for including them.
Thank you for not wasting an ounce of that beautiful walnut.
What a incredible machine to have and to use. The book mached pieces look incredible....beautiful stuff.
When I saw that log on the forklift I thought, THAT'S GONNA BE A GREAT LOG. Your experience really shows, and we appreciate the educational aspect of this video. Well done!
I have watched videos where I couldn't figure out why something was done a certain way, and I have received questions like that from viewers. I try to explain what I am doing, hopefully it is more entertaining, or educational than listening to background music or the rumble of the sawmill engine.
Martin could make some Beautiful guitars with that wood.
Very nice. Good job sir. I work wood on a much smaller scale. I make knives and black powder firearms. Thanks
Great video Nice wood grain and the book match was awesome. less talk is always better , Have a good one RC
BEAUTYFUL what the Lord has grown. thnks for sharing. the Magoo's in Milo, Maine
Beautiful wood, going to make some lovely furniture I hope! Nice job.
Fascinating,beautiful and educational. Thank you!
Love the ticker tape explanations/ Very interesting. Thanks for posting.
some beautiful walnut slabs . excellent work
YOU HAVE A GREAT FEEL FOR WHAT YOU DO AND MAKE FINE USE OF THE WOOD. THANKS FOR SHARING.
(NOT "SHOUTING" GOING BLIND)
First time watching one of your videos and I really like the annotations where you explain why you are cutting the way you do. Very helpful for understanding the process. Thanks!
It is easy to see that you love your job and have respect for the wood you are working on. I do sculptures in wood and love the way it feels and smells and the wood tells you what it wants to be. You become part of the wood.
You really understand the wood you are working on and do an excellent job. Thank you.
Thanks for your compliments. Sawyers have different backgrounds; I wasn't a logger, or a commodity lumber producer ; my background was as a woodworker , working with urban wood. You learn to seek out the best you can get from every log. Milling 2x construction lumber wouldn't be near as rewarding.
I got so caught up in this video that I smelled the sawdust.
Very nicely done! Good job maximizing best figure. I counted 4 pairs of book-matched 8/4 slabs. Sure made for some beautifully grained material!
Since about August 1st, there has been a big increase in activity for this video. I suspect that someone shared it with a large group and I just wanted to let you know that I appreciate that, and the new subscribers. Sure would like to know where is was shared.
I am, well my wife and I, are redoing a neglected property. 25 acres that has been abused and not managed at all. We are looking into a portable mill to reclaim some of the wood we have to cut out. One of my Facebook friends linked this video to us because of our love of Black Walnut and grow them by the thousands for replanting around Michigan.
Thanks for the reply. 25 acres can be a daunting project. Logging, milling, stacking and drying lumber can have a bit of a learning curve, along with the other things you'll be tackling. Depending on the area you are in, you might consider hiring the milling done. You'll learn a lot by watching the sawyer and asking questions, plus you should have a reliable supply of lumber for your projects. Then, if buying your own mill seems logical, you'll have a jump start on what to look for and how to get started.
From what I understand about the algorithm used, it could be that an "influencer" has been watching this video. If an account TH-cam deems big enough to be an influencer watches a video and hits the like button, their followers will have a much higher chance of seeing the video in their recommended lists. I'm probably not supposed to tell anyone about that but what the heck, I'll just say I guessed it...
Blarg Kliggle thanks for the info. I appreciate whoever was responsible. After 2 years it was at 47,000 views, which was nice, but in the past 6 weeks it jumped to 120,000+ views. Plus, a significant increase in subscribers - also appreciated.
@@tomthesawyervids keep making this awesome content and I'm sure you'll get a silver play button (100k subscribers) in no time!
WOW ! (Not anything else, just WOW!).
Tom, I sorry, but that walnut does not have that much figure. Not trying to rain on your parade. I ran a flitch mill for a veneer mill for 6 years and we were usually looking for saw logs with potential for a specific furniture customer. We had pretty decent success when logs were selected and yes, I was 1 sorting logs for this. While this offered some, it was nothing spectacular, but hey I'm just a viewer with an opinion and had 20 years experience. What do I know.
I want to add my thanks for the commentary. Knowing the rationale for the cuts add to the educational aspect of your videos. In 1975 and 1976, my late father took my brother Mike and I to a 100 year old Walnut orchard that was being converted to a business park. We harvested many logs the old fashion way. Lots of work with the 1 man and 2 man bucksaws. Thank You for reviving those memories. With Best Regards, Pat
Hopefully you still have something made from that walnut. I often mill sentimental logs. Maybe not the greatest lumber, but if a relative planted the tree, or it was from your childhood home, nothing else can match it.
out of all those combinations i prefered the I-J the best .... and i know they werent from the 3 hearts ... still the prettiest to me ... but loved watching as you cut her open and looked inside !!
You guys are true artists. I would have no idea how to process that gorgeous piece of timber.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and letting us see the end product it’s beautiful.
God bless! 💯🙏🏻👍🏼😊
Hi Tom,
I purchased the Timber King 1600 about 3 years ago and it sure makes milling so much easier.
Beautiful black walnut. Thanks for sharing
In case you read this, how much did it cost you and is there any real savings to be had over the long run if you buy it used (mildly used & treated with TLC)? I'd appreciate knowing and ballpark figures from sonmeone who knows is just fine. Thanks.
It blows my mind how that mill can manipulate that huge log around.
Fascinating.
Yea.. don't shoot trees.
I had chance to turn a peace of 150 year old black walnut I made a bowl and 5 sets of BBQ fork and knives the bowl had a mini ball from the civil war in it so I left it it was on the family farm they owned for 70 years thank you for your post enjoyed it
I had 8 black walnut trees in Pittsburg Texas growing in Iron ore probably over 1,200 years old they had like 68 inch bottoms and some sorry son of a b**** stowed my trees if I find this person it ain't going to be good brother thanks for this video but it did bring back bad memories of a few years ago that happened to me
WOW that book match is art and u sir are an artist. Anyone can run a mill but the placement is the wisdom. I've always said burning walnut is a sin. thank you for your time.
Great video. Beautiful results. Not sure I'll be able to find a black walnut that big here in WA but I'm gonna try. Keep sawing, be safe. Bruce
Tom nice job maximizing the beauty of the grain patterns and explaining what you were doing. The captions were really helpful. The only thing that could have shortened the video length was to increase the play speed of the actual cut. Thank you. Bill
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Great video and very informative. What I would love to see next is the process to build and finish the table for which it was intended.
Great video,didnt know George Kennedy was a woodwork expert and film star!
Wow those book matched are beyond words. Great Job
I have 2 black walnut trees, and thanks to you, I now know what I want from them. It is 2019, and I enjoyed your video
Very nice lumber , will be beautiful if make it dining tabletop I think .
Someone is just waiting to get their hands on those great looking walnut slabs to make a nice table. Walnut has to be one of the greatest woods that God ever created. Kudos. Great video.
Absolutely beautiful! Great job guys!
I used to be part of a milling operation in north Alabama.
We hit a few bullets. I was told that they were in the trees from the civil war.
Beautiful and very helpful comments. I am preparing to purchase an Alaskan Chainsaw mill and embark on this journey. Looks like fun! BTW, how long is this log you started with? Thanks again!
Steven G, this log was about 8'7" long.
As a musician and "knowledge nerd", this has been fascinating.
Nice walnut I wood like to have big walnut on my place but all mine is smaller but it's getting there .
Hey, I like your log-roller mechanism. You don't see that on other milling videos.
Every time I try to sell black walnut the big time
Log buyers sawmill thieves they always want to give you fire wood price one big time log buyer
Came on my job & offered me $50 a tree for black walnut trees so I called him told to come get
These $50 trees we cut them up in 16" lengths
The big time log buyer started yelling at me
Telling me what the trees were worth & I told him
If you weren't trying to Robb me things could have been different this is what u get for $50 fire wood
Supply and demand issues. Not sure where you are from but in this area, walnut is relatively common, and prices may still vary widely. A common retail price for 4/4 FAS walnut, kiln-dried, planed and SLR, is $5-6 p/bf. No saw log will yield 100% FAS, so you have to consider the yield of FAS, 1COM, 2COM, etc., for the total retail value of that log (avg. $2.50-3.50 p/bf). There will be a retail markup that may be 50-100%, lets say $1 p/bf. That means a wholesale value (for the log) of about $2 p/bf). If you allow .50 bf for milling, and .50 for drying, you are down to $1 bf, and you still have transportation and marketing. In my area, I commonly pay .50 bf for average walnut saw logs, delivered to the mill.
A 24" x 8' walnut log would yield about 200 bf Doyle, and weigh about 1700 pounds. An average log (grade 2 or 3), delivered here would bring $100. Local firewood prices for hardwoods is $27 p/ton, or $23 for a 1700 pound log. I am paying 4x firewood price, It costs about the same to cut, transport, mill and dry walnut (or other species), regardless of the log quality. The grade yield, and retail value hinge on the quality of the logs. Buyers always want to pay a little less , (it increases their profitability), and sellers would like to get a little bit more. If you have lots of buyers, competition drives the prices up. If you have more sellers, competition drives prices down. You might want to find more buyers.
Absolutely excellent
Thanks for the explanations
Love watching milling
Great video, thanks to you and your team, beautiful wood and work .
I love dark walnut such a beautiful Hart if you through some stain on that ..WOW that heart would jump right out at yeh..
I'm thinking of Alaskan Sawmill with her yielded better figure and results
it has to be a great honor to reveal the handiwork of the Lord for all to see THANX
Great video, very well explained. Thank you for making and sharing this
Beautiful wood! That saw is amazing! All the hydraulics sure makes moving that log around so much easier! So will the bullets be left in permanently?
Hydraulics do make the work easier, and sometimes allow doing things in a certain order rather than worrying about conserving the physical labor associated with turning the log. On really big logs, sometimes the hydraulics will need help from a cant hook on the first couple of turns, but it is a time saver. The cluster of bullets was in an early cut so, although they won't be part of a table top, that unique piece will probably be used for something.
Those bullets could have been in there for 100 years.
John, the bullets were in the outer 2" of the log, not far under the bark. A walnut log that size may have been about 40 years old. The bullets had probably been there about 5 years.
Thanks for that
The true beautiy of this log is lost...Your saw is way to small...To do this log the right way...!!!
I took a black walnut log to a sawmill, but they wouldn't cut it, because when they asked how far the tree was from the nearest house, I said, "About 50 feet." Too much chance of metal in it, they told me.
If I hit metal, or anything else, in a log, there is a $15 resharpening fee if the blade is not destroyed. If destroyed, it is $25 or less. Looking at the economics, a 24" x 8' walnut log would yield about 200 board feet and cost you about $100 when cut into 1" lumber. Metal in walnut will normally leave a black stain in the log, from the metal to the bottom of the log. Let's say that in addition to the $15 fee, you also lose 20 bf to black stain. So, instead of 200 bf for $100, you get 180 bf for $115. .50 p/bf vs. .64 p/bf for black walnut... it is still worth it in my opinion.
In large operations, especially circular mills, hitting metal can be more consequential. Replacing circle saw teeth will take some time, production is down and employees are standing around. There may also be shrapnel flying. I have hit metal in logs that were not near houses. Bullets, arrowheads, fence wire, fence posts, cables, insulators, nails from signs, tree houses and tree stands. At least with walnut and oaks, there is usually a tell tale stain to let you know about the metal. Some logs may contain so much metal that blade damage costs outweigh the economics of the wood - but those are very rare.
nice work could smell it from here 40yr high end work make some beautiful tables
I’m a turner, the first thing we are concerned about is the pith, and getting it out of the piece we are turning. As I watched you mill that log, the pith would be running the length of the slabs cut from the middle. Doesn’t this lead to cracking as the wood dries.
gull1969, none of this material was destined for turners, had it been I would have milled it differently. Every log has a pith, in some cases a sawyer may eliminate or contain the pith (FOHC/HC timbers). You may have noticed that I leveled the log in order to contain the pith as much as possible within a single plank (difficult when you are working with a crotch). That plank will contain the pith, and also the most perfectly quartersawn grain, and often the most figured grain in the log. The pith will often crack, more commonly in thinner planks like 6/4 or less. If it cracks you can consider it a flaw and rip it out of the plank, leaving two narrower boards. Or, you can deal with it as a character facet, fixing it in place with a bow tie dutchmen, or filling with epoxy. Recently I have had clients who are looking for a plank specifically with the pith. In addition to the striking grain, they separate the plank along the irregular pith, spread it apart a few inches, and fill the void with epoxy to create a river table.
yea this piece is really a good one as far as the grain and pattern of it .
Very talented. There's art in every aspect of life. Thanks for sharing!
Nice conference tables big diner table worth what £240 each for each I take it
I like to leave little dents on the fender of my car, Tom. Gives it a little more character. The uneven throttle we hear is the butterfly shaft in the carb; it is worn and causes uneven air flow. Would it be
quicker in leveling the log to tape a level to the long steel rule and eye ball the cut rather than use a measure rule?
Very very nice, great job.
That was so nice but just wait till we see the building material maker ,He's my friend.
You're friends with God? Boy are you connected to people in high places. Put in a good word for me. Life's been petty tough lately!
I'm a little confused why you milled the two adjacent sides flat first. Wouldn't it be preferrable to leave those slabs live edge on both sides? They could always be ripped later if the design calls for a bookmatch, or if need to edge-glue them. But if you wanted a single slab for a bench, wouldn't it be better to have both edges live? Thanks.
Pete, excellent question. There are several reasons, the primary one being that I visualized that the location of the large limb stub on the side, being inline with the hearts of the crotch at the top, offered the potential for some excellent figure.
In my market, the most requested product is for live-edged, table width (32-48") pieces of that length. The cut capacity of my mill is 24" so the only way to get those widths is by gluing up, and a bookmatched set offers the potential of symmetry, which I happen to like. All three sets sold for table tops. Even narrow bookmatches have excellent potential for various furniture projects.
On larger logs, I may take a flitch (both natural edges) off the top, and sometimes the bottom, before making the back face cut. I then mill the remainder of the log into live-edge planks. On smaller logs, where a bookmatch would not meet minimum full table size, I may mill flitches to be used for benches, or occasional (sofa, coffee, hall, end, etc.) tables, although I get considerably fewer requests for that material. The last couple of flitches can be challenging to clamp on my mill, due to the irregular edge.
Most of the time I am milling clients logs and their desires set the parameters for how I saw the log but, if milling my logs, I usually look to maximize the figure. If I get a log that doesn't offer much as far as figure potential, I'll normally saw it for maximum grade, at least 5/4 since many places around here sell 4/4 lumber.
Thanks for the thorough reply, Tom. That makes a lot of sense. I’ve had a few large logs milled up by local sawyers and being somewhat experienced, I usually ask for the least-altered cuts I can get (while still being manageable size) so that I leave myself as many options as possible. But that wood is all used for my own personal projects. If I were getting wood for projects to sell, I suspect I’d go for cuts that maximize figure, like you, or that offer the easiest and fastest path to being finished and sold. As it is, I got far too much 4/4 and 5/4, and had them save and dry far too many wonky pieces. And now I have wood I’ll likely never use, and yet don't want to toss because I spent good men for it! Argh!
@@PeteTevonian I started out as a woodworker, junior high shop class in the mid 60s (yeah, last century), so it is hard to toss something in the scrap bin when you salvaged it to begin with. It may be 'wonky' for furniture and cabinetry but consider giving it to a turner or carver (if those aren't in your skill set, or on your to-learn list). Doesn't take much highly figured wood to put a smile on a pen turner's face. I find that cutting at 5/4 significantly reduces the number of potential competitors and, if I do need some 4/4 material, it's just a few more passes through the planer.
at the end, when booking them, I see why you took the second cut -- they match better (and you needed to get the width smaller for the figure cuts). After rolling it over, the wedge shaped piece (3rd cut) off the smaller branch could have been larger (an inch maybe) -- I suggest this because a turner would love to work with that piece -- I trust you gave it away, rather than firewood -- or use it for a barn-door stopper, 7o7 (Lots of Love).
That is why you do not mill trees that come from property that has been occupied since the tree was young. For some reason, people leave dogs chained to trees. Get your trees from deep in the forest.
Tim, absolute statements like those find much favor in the commodity, high-volume market for lumber. But, if you consider that our urban forests generate several billion board feet of saw logs each year, you would realize that smaller operations such as mine benefit the environment by keeping those logs out of the landfills, sequester significant amounts of carbon, salvage sentimental or provenance trees, and provide artisans and woodworkers with resources that are not available through the commodity market. My one man operation has helped start several custom woodworking businesses and, in an average year, my milling activities will prevent a quarter million pounds of carbon dioxide from being released into the environment through sequestration - I appreciate that people don't get their logs from deep in the forest (although I will mill those too.)
The bullets could have been remnants of a firing squad.
Ross Hollinger ...Right and possibly as far back as the Civil War era! Can y’all imagine what that Black Walnut has witnessed in its time?!
I have a lot of black walnut trees on my farm. Varying sizes. If anyone interested in harvesting them I would sell them all.
awesome work..experience and old age..a good combination.. i work for a guitar builder in vienna austria..dont know if i could have done a better bookmatch myself..
Have you sped up the film or does it cut through the wood that quickly?
James, no, the video speed was not manipulated. For logs around 18" wide, the forward speed through the log will be 2-3 seconds per foot. I listen to the engine (30 hp Kohler) speed closely and, if it bogs down a bit from a change in density (knots, crotch figure), I feather the forward drive speed. On these mills, the large engine only drives the blade, another (6 hp) engine powers the hydraulics system, which includes moving the saw head forward and back, loading, turning, tilting and clamping logs.
New sub, fairly new sawyer, as well as TH-cam creator. Thanks for sharing, I'm always trying to learn something.
I really like yer mill; wish I had one! Do ya have an auto oiler on it? Some of that walnut would make a pretty gun stock. Wouldn't mind having the waste from that!
I turn a lot of black walnut ( boxes, bowls, Christmas ornaments, etc.) and love it. It's gonna be beautiful no matter what you use it for!
Take care, Dave
Another sawmill video and no ear protection in sight! (Unless y'all wear those little ear plugs). If not, you'll end up being "Tom the Deaf Sawyer". (RN watching)
Everyone is offered an assortment of safety equipment before we start milling. The roll-up, small ear plugs are the most popular, I go through more than 100 pairs per year. I also provide gloves, dust masks, goggles, eye protection, ear plugs and/or ear muffs, if they wish to use them. Also access to a fire extinguisher and first aid kit (as yet unused). There is even a mention of ear protection in the burr oak log video. Most use the plugs, a few use the muffs (I use both when the big chainsaw is running), some just turn down their hearing aids.
@@tomthesawyervids Yay! Thank you for your reply! I did, of course, take into account that you all might be using the little soft kind of plugs that get pushed way into the ear canal....it's interesting to me how a log becomes a board and the skill and expertise of people at things like this is very interesting indeed!
That is Beautiful, Mother Nature has the Ultimate Beauty.
The Bullets tell a story of Man's natural place in the food chain..
Clearly you have no idea what you are doing. I will save you the embarrassment of having anyone see that nasty old wood. I'll come pick it up and not charge you for the service. How'd I do! Nice machine, and a skilled operator, fantastic cut, great figure, overall and A+++++++
Michael, you missed out. The planks from that log are now three bookmatched tables, a counter top and a couple of other smaller projects.
@@zed5509 Although I ask clients to send me photos of their completed projects, it doesn't happen very often. By the time the lumber is dry, and the project built, they forget. I do get some photos and usually post them on my FB page. Here is one from that log. facebook.com/TomTheSawyerPortableSawmill/photos/pcb.1217610251636919/1217608648303746/?type=3&theater
I'd like to see what's been made out of that wood.
Very good my man! I bet it will make beautiful table's. I've seen guys screw up some beautiful logs cause they didn't Know what they where doing, but you guys do! Very nice job my friend's!
Not a bad group on the bullets ! Incredible machine , beautiful to watch . Thanks, Ps how long was this walnut aged before you milled it ? TKS That's a bunch of beautiful table tops.
The log was from Butler, Mo and was one of three that I bought (all from the same tree). It had reportedly died and was taken down because it was a potential hazard to the home at that location. It was here for a bit over 2 months prior to milling. Although there are circumstances where letting a log "age" might have specific results, generally, the sooner you process them the better.
Got you thanks for the reply , interesting !
There's a black walnut out the back of my house that branches off into 5 or 6 large limbs and has all sorts of different things like burels and such. My father owns the house as an income property and the tree had all its limbs cut off when we moved in. My dad said, "that's too bad, that's black walnut." At my shoulders, it's about a foot wider than me at least shoulder to shoulder. It came back with a vengeance. I've told him he can't cut it down because it's right behind an addition that got so hot when that tree had no limbs candles melted on the countertop. I mentioned what that wood must be worth he said he didn't think so because it's got too many limbs, knots and other things. I bet some beautiful lumber would come out of that tree.
Walnut has a reputation as a very valuable tree, and there are some very valuable walnuts but it is small percentage of the market. The most valuable walnut logs are purchased by the veneer market. Those logs will never be lumber, only thin sheets of veneer, and they require logs that are perfectly straight, with excellent color, absolutely no knots, limbs, decay, twist, scars, off-center heart, etc. Then you have saw logs, graded based on the number of clear faces, and firewood logs. Lots of limbs would indicate a low-grade saw log or a firewood log. There may be some beautiful lumber in the log, but lumber like that presents problems in drying and finishing, and a higher percentage of culled boards. Higher quality saw logs are more likely to yield a higher percentage of usable lumber.
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Thoroughly enjoyed the video with the explanation as to what each cut was designed to achieve. Beautiful log to mill. Thank you.