@@Diggnuts 128kbps was fine for most genres, except rock and metal where there is more going on. I find nowadays 192kbps is a good compromise between quality and space.
Back in the early 2000s I went from ripping my CDs to converting all of them to mp3 and playing them in my car which had a pioneer mp3 stereo. Having several albums on one disc was and still is cool to me. I currently have an old school car stereo and I still carry mp3 discs.
These videos are so interesting! Who knew the internet and entertainment would change so fast! I still remember when we got our 2001 Sony computer that had 50 GB and a CD burner/DVD player! We thought we were the shit ahahaha!
Napster napster napster......alright, but anyone remember Audiogalaxy? That shit was the savior after Napster took a dive, but before I discovered and learned mIRC.
Makes me feel wistful. I recorded a CD of songs (Cubase 3.72 on my PII 300MHz) and had it for sale on MP3.com, it sold like 5 copies lol. But it all seemed really exciting back then, with so many possibilities.
"But it all seemed really exciting back then, with so many possibilities" . A Pentium II 300Mhz seems a bit modern to me. I came across the command line encode/decode software for mp3 from the inventor, the Fraunhofer Institute in 1996 version 0.99a. Had to encode/decode on a 486 DX 33 in way less than real time. Back when storage space was at a super premium it was revolutionary. Told few people how this sort of music compression would revolutionise things, but they just looked at me funny.
I remember when portable MP3 players with 32mb flash memory first showed up in computer stores (1998 or 1999 I recall), and I remarked to one of my coworkers that someone should make a portable MP3 player with 2 or 4GB laptop hard drive in it. They said that it would take so much power that you'd be lugging a car battery with it and it would take far too long to fill up over USB. Nobody at the time would have guessed that Apple - the company who was close to bankruptcy only a couple years earlier - would be the ones to perfect the portable MP3 player and essentially take over the entire market.
Napster made me discover artists and songs I would have never would have found through browsing a physical record store, watching TV and listening to the radio. And because of the low bitrate most users upload the songs, I end up actually buying the physical discs later down the road. So imo, it was actually beneficial to the artists and record labels; essentially free advertising. Of course, they were greedy snobs and couldn't grasp this. Should have at least collaborate on a paying service with Napster instead of trying hard to shut it down completely.
Stuart only has 30 min and a lot of these people on the show are sales reps from their respective companies, anyone who’s dealt with sales reps knows that if given a chance they’ll talk for a hours why you should buy their product over their competitors
I had a Nomad Jukebox. It was a wonder at the time. Everyone always asked me where the CD went LOL. Loading music at USB 1.1 speeds though was rough. If you had a lot to load at once you were going to be there a while. It was insanely limited even by standards set a few years later, but when it was new there was no comparison.
Well the problem with Napster was it made software easy to download. As all the serves was in truth was an huge FTP server with a graphics interface for the noob to use it. As the idea was I own it either on CD, album etc.. But I wanted it in MP3 or some other format to use on a portable devise. As not everybody had the software to do the conversion. Then DVD copy protection was cracked for the PC, while the Mac needed no such software for the conversion to store it on your HD. Besides the record companies made it their business to make things obsolete. As they went from albums, 8 tracks, cassettes, mini disk to CD's. So you had to buy the same product 5 times even if you never lost or damaged your old one. They still do it today with TV sets and computers.
Actually. Napster was a P2P sharing service. It allowed people to download files in bits and pieces from other people's Napster download library as long as they shared the file and was online. That's the same technology that Torrents use. So to say it was a huge FTP server is misleading in the way it truly works behind the scenes. As for the music companies.. they started setting up bots on Napster to catch pirates. That's how they started lawsuits against downloaders that downloaded from their bots back in the early 2000's
I've gotten a few of these suggested to me now, and it's really odd how the presenter tries to predict what the interviewee is going to say ALL THE TIME. They just can't stay quiet and let them explain what they came in to explain without interuption.
OMG Mp3's for Dummies , lols back in the day when we had audio grabber to grab our audio cd's from our own cd collection I did not need MP3 for dummies
Talking to music industry executives ß Now just imagine if these IDIOTS made small 140MB CD-ROMs available alongside big CD-ROMs with MP3 ripped off already just so you could enjoy having MP3 for your needs, and less to carry in pocket, and some company created MP3 DiskMan based on that. And just imagine if they sold that for cheap so people would go for it instead of Napster. Just imagine - if SONY Music Entertainment wasnt making MiniDisks and all that CRAP they made for years. All these strange file formats, all that JUNK. They we had ipods then streaming services etc. But small 140MB CD never got popular was wasted idea. Every CD drive in late 90s and all in 2000 had option to play small CD-ROMs. You could do in reverse make full CD-ROM in your CD-ROM burner if you wanted to play in your HiFi. You could buy real CD full size if you wanted. They never made such offer. Small 8cm CD are result of downsizing DVD to 1.4GB to use in cameras. Making small is not easy business because you have to change mold its not that easy but this could be done if they wanted. I dont feel sorry for them them loosing money on MP3 at that time! Just as i would not cry for companies making floppy drives or VHS tapes when DVD-RW came out and DivX. We had SuperCD but never DivX CD all because of patents law protecting for more than 5 years. Various coding standards etc. Stupid PDF file was protected by 20 years stupid FAT file system for 20 years. Same for MP3 and MP4 H264 itäs not stupid idea but these are basics. You can make business in 5 years not blocking others for use of "your" intelectual property. In modern days someone would patent wheel to protect idea for 200 years. You would have no choice other than pay.
Oh the irony of the sound quality in this video specifically.
the mp3 episode has bad audio.
Must be a low bitrate, mono file.
@@0326Hambone its stereo. The audio engineer must have been a low bitrate, mono file...
Just like the 128kbps MP3's of those days!
@@Diggnuts 128kbps was fine for most genres, except rock and metal where there is more going on. I find nowadays 192kbps is a good compromise between quality and space.
@@FlyboyHelosim Or anything that had cymbals in it. 192kbps is the bare minimum for me.
"6 gigs, I don't know if there is that much music.."
I think he meant to say "good" music.
Back in the early 2000s I went from ripping my CDs to converting all of them to mp3 and playing them in my car which had a pioneer mp3 stereo. Having several albums on one disc was and still is cool to me. I currently have an old school car stereo and I still carry mp3 discs.
Lol at downloading songs on Napster and showing it on tv
Amazing that today we can do this legally with streaming, and even have that run with lossless flac.
These videos are so interesting! Who knew the internet and entertainment would change so fast! I still remember when we got our 2001 Sony computer that had 50 GB and a CD burner/DVD player! We thought we were the shit ahahaha!
Napster napster napster......alright, but anyone remember Audiogalaxy? That shit was the savior after Napster took a dive, but before I discovered and learned mIRC.
oof!!... mIRC 🫰
Back when an 80GB drive was considered big. I remember those days!
yeah. Now I have a 512GB flash drive on a chip smaller than my fingernail
Its still big enough to hold most peoples mp3 libraries, before spotify took over.
Not obsolete - plenty of phones and tablets running around with 16/32 GB today.
I had 60GB for boot and applications and 60GB (RAID 1) for data, back then.
80 GB is still big today... what you mean? lol
Makes me feel wistful. I recorded a CD of songs (Cubase 3.72 on my PII 300MHz) and had it for sale on MP3.com, it sold like 5 copies lol. But it all seemed really exciting back then, with so many possibilities.
"But it all seemed really exciting back then, with so many possibilities" . A Pentium II 300Mhz seems a bit modern to me. I came across the command line encode/decode software for mp3 from the inventor, the Fraunhofer Institute in 1996 version 0.99a. Had to encode/decode on a 486 DX 33 in way less than real time. Back when storage space was at a super premium it was revolutionary. Told few people how this sort of music compression would revolutionise things, but they just looked at me funny.
@eeehan77 a 486 dx 33 was pretty old and slow by 1996 standards
@@carnivorebear6582 I had a 486 DX2 66 at that time. The Pentium II was 1998.
The mp3 for this video was transcoded at 128kbps 300 times. :'(
yeah the audio sounds like shit why couldn't they just do it like every other video on youtube instead of like your under water
My right ear really enjoyed this. My left loved the mono music.
Amazing how quick tech went in those days.
Moore's law was alive and well.
Audio brought to you by a toilet bowl in a soundproof booth
@Andrew Tarrant I tried to but it was impossible so I didn't waste my time and I pity anyone who did because I'm sure they were equally disappointed.
Mp3 quality 😂
Limitless?
Fs 2020: this game requires 95gb of free space to update
Who had a diamond rio?
really, andy rathbone, that hair was okay as late as 2000?
After some time, we got introduced to MP4, and some time later it became MP5 in CS. Good Times.
6:10 - The quality is pretty damn good. Lol at Stewart.
I remember when portable MP3 players with 32mb flash memory first showed up in computer stores (1998 or 1999 I recall), and I remarked to one of my coworkers that someone should make a portable MP3 player with 2 or 4GB laptop hard drive in it. They said that it would take so much power that you'd be lugging a car battery with it and it would take far too long to fill up over USB. Nobody at the time would have guessed that Apple - the company who was close to bankruptcy only a couple years earlier - would be the ones to perfect the portable MP3 player and essentially take over the entire market.
omg that haircut.
omg the sound why is it so damned quiet I hate that
I still remember exactly where I was when I heard my first song on mp3. It was one of those moments.
linkin park mp3.exe
Napster made me discover artists and songs I would have never would have found through browsing a physical record store, watching TV and listening to the radio. And because of the low bitrate most users upload the songs, I end up actually buying the physical discs later down the road. So imo, it was actually beneficial to the artists and record labels; essentially free advertising. Of course, they were greedy snobs and couldn't grasp this. Should have at least collaborate on a paying service with Napster instead of trying hard to shut it down completely.
You've actually convinced yourself that ripped and stolen music benefited artists and the industry? Naive, short sighted, and very wrong.
Andy and Lars from Metallica are the same person.
he obviously did not know that
Lol I’m waiting for the cops to bust in the second Stewart clicks “download” on Napster
Stewart has to be coked up in this one.
6:09. wow Stewart actually cursed
If you're religious I guess...
Rother Stewart has a broken vessel in his both eyes, or he is faded af haha
Stuart sure does interrupt the guests a lot to say the same things, and I never realized how common he steps on-top of them.
Stuart only has 30 min and a lot of these people on the show are sales reps from their respective companies, anyone who’s dealt with sales reps knows that if given a chance they’ll talk for a hours why you should buy their product over their competitors
I had a Nomad Jukebox. It was a wonder at the time. Everyone always asked me where the CD went LOL. Loading music at USB 1.1 speeds though was rough. If you had a lot to load at once you were going to be there a while. It was insanely limited even by standards set a few years later, but when it was new there was no comparison.
I wanted one so damn bad. Eventually had to settle for a Sony Discman with mp3 capability, for a few years at least.
Lil bit of chroma banding there bud. Still glad this is archived on tubes
Well the problem with Napster was it made software easy to download. As all the serves was in truth was an huge FTP server with a graphics interface for the noob to use it. As the idea was I own it either on CD, album etc.. But I wanted it in MP3 or some other format to use on a portable devise. As not everybody had the software to do the conversion. Then DVD copy protection was cracked for the PC, while the Mac needed no such software for the conversion to store it on your HD.
Besides the record companies made it their business to make things obsolete. As they went from albums, 8 tracks, cassettes, mini disk to CD's. So you had to buy the same product 5 times even if you never lost or damaged your old one. They still do it today with TV sets and computers.
Actually. Napster was a P2P sharing service. It allowed people to download files in bits and pieces from other people's Napster download library as long as they shared the file and was online. That's the same technology that Torrents use. So to say it was a huge FTP server is misleading in the way it truly works behind the scenes.
As for the music companies.. they started setting up bots on Napster to catch pirates. That's how they started lawsuits against downloaders that downloaded from their bots back in the early 2000's
Valueless Dollar
P2P is under it all an FTP interface.. Same thing News Groups and others used for years.
FTP and P2P are 2 different things. Both act as a file server but P2P is not hosted on dedicated hosting systems.
24:54 Tim Bajaran looks 30 years younger.
Hahaha
Is there any point in the interviews when the host doesn’t interrupt his guest?
I've gotten a few of these suggested to me now, and it's really odd how the presenter tries to predict what the interviewee is going to say ALL THE TIME. They just can't stay quiet and let them explain what they came in to explain without interuption.
Aired the day before 9/11.
“Breakin tha law! Breakin tha law dun dun dun dunnnn”
OMG Mp3's for Dummies , lols back in the day when we had audio grabber to grab our audio cd's from our own cd collection I did not need MP3 for dummies
"Almost limitless" I don't think he knows what limitless means
this has no audio.
larry maggots
19:08 Green pants and blue shirt day?
Low mp3 bitrate on this episode. Seriously, the audio sucks big time!
Talking to music industry executives ß Now just imagine if these IDIOTS made small 140MB CD-ROMs available alongside big CD-ROMs with MP3 ripped off already just so you could enjoy having MP3 for your needs, and less to carry in pocket, and some company created MP3 DiskMan based on that. And just imagine if they sold that for cheap so people would go for it instead of Napster. Just imagine - if SONY Music Entertainment wasnt making MiniDisks and all that CRAP they made for years. All these strange file formats, all that JUNK. They we had ipods then streaming services etc. But small 140MB CD never got popular was wasted idea. Every CD drive in late 90s and all in 2000 had option to play small CD-ROMs. You could do in reverse make full CD-ROM in your CD-ROM burner if you wanted to play in your HiFi. You could buy real CD full size if you wanted. They never made such offer. Small 8cm CD are result of downsizing DVD to 1.4GB to use in cameras. Making small is not easy business because you have to change mold its not that easy but this could be done if they wanted.
I dont feel sorry for them them loosing money on MP3 at that time! Just as i would not cry for companies making floppy drives or VHS tapes when DVD-RW came out and DivX. We had SuperCD but never DivX CD all because of patents law protecting for more than 5 years. Various coding standards etc. Stupid PDF file was protected by 20 years stupid FAT file system for 20 years. Same for MP3 and MP4 H264 itäs not stupid idea but these are basics. You can make business in 5 years not blocking others for use of "your" intelectual property. In modern days someone would patent wheel to protect idea for 200 years. You would have no choice other than pay.
I think they are a little late with this episode. I was downloading MP3s in 1996, 5 years before this episode.
On windows 95?
@@jonnywishbone4805 yup.
@@mattizzle81 I’d be curious to know what software you used at that time. I was only just online in 1996 with Netscape Navigator
@@jonnywishbone4805 Pretty sure I was using Netscape as well, and ftp for mp3s, games, etc
such bad audio!
Jesus Christ this is terrible lol How comes the shit from 1985 looks and sounds better?!
19:20 you can thank Russ Hanneman for ROI. Radio. On. Internet.