Wide Angle Lenses Can Be So Disappointing

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  • @ralphguppy
    @ralphguppy ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great as always, not just for today’s content, but the recognition that artists from the pre-camera days used “light” to emphasizes subject(s). I’m trying to incorporate that technique in modern photography and struggling! You do inspire me to keep at it.
    Also appreciate that you delve in wildlife, astrophotography, landscape! Thanks!!

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey thanks for the kind words man, I really appreciate it! I'm really glad that the content is helping too.

  • @midnighteternalsoul
    @midnighteternalsoul ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have found my 10-20mm is great for presenting epic proportions when I'm stitching landscapes.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm with you. Wide angle lenses seem to work best with close-up subjects while the "big vistas" are best rendered with medium to long lenses. That's pretty much the opposite of what newbie photographers expect!

  • @TomR-g8r
    @TomR-g8r ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Last year I took the family to Iceland - I had my R6 & 24-105 f4 (not even a tripod) & it was great! The only times it crossed my mind that “it would be nice to have another lens” I was thinking longer not shorter & that was maybe two or three moments. Not having multiple lenses also made me think more carefully about composition too & I got some awesome shots.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      The 24-105 is definitely my all time favorite walk round do it all lens. It's just so good.

  • @JohnTravena
    @JohnTravena ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful. I rarely like to shoot wide angle lenses but I like what other people can do with them. What you say makes so much sense.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man, I'm glad you enjoyed it!

  • @ldouglass6
    @ldouglass6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you again for your videos. Do you happen to have any videos photographing White Sands New Mexico? I’m planning a trip there this late summer or early fall

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a few. Just search Brent Hall White sands and they should pop up.

  • @matthewmallett4718
    @matthewmallett4718 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use wide/extreme wide on 4 occasions. Group shots/individual shots of people where wide is necessary or to exaggerate a perspective. Close up views of individual objects and things to exaggerate them, astro imagery and my favourite for cloud structures where super wide particularly as the main focal point brings out all the detail in the sky that would otherwise be missed with longer lenses. I do absolutely agree that longer lenses can get you into the action though and my best lightning photos have been using my 100-400 at night.

  • @KIDDYLAN
    @KIDDYLAN ปีที่แล้ว

    Loved you stating my feelings on wide angle lens. my first landscape photos with a wide angle friends commented they looked very ordinary. i started using a zoom lens(canon 70 - 200) and people raved over them. But i do want your expertise. Night shots for stars, planets, constellations ... what lens type do you recommend? wide angle? I am a total novice in regards to night photography. thanks in advance, And i usual, you be the man

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you want to do normal astro shots, then some sort of wide angle is a good start. I really like 24mm for that stuff. You can go wider too, but I just really like the feel of that focal length, even 35mm too.

  • @naturallyadriftphotoadvent123
    @naturallyadriftphotoadvent123 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the wildlife too! Lots of good tips for wide angle, thanks!

  • @rickgonzalez6345
    @rickgonzalez6345 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyed your video Brent , and your thoughts on wide angle lenses.

  • @jayallan-eq4tq
    @jayallan-eq4tq ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video. Been into photography for many years but never wide-angle landscape. Just started messing around with it the last few months. Extremely difficult and time consuming. Your advice is solid.

  • @Steve-dv9wg
    @Steve-dv9wg ปีที่แล้ว

    The time lapse of the sky and campsite was great! I have that same tripod if it's the Velbon El Carma 530, my everyday pod since 2004. I have a Crosstrek too. I enjoy your knowledge, pace and style.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh nice! Yeah, I've had that tripod for coming up on probably 15 years now. No matter how many new tripods I get, that one is always still in the car, lol.

  • @megadjc192
    @megadjc192 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've learned that wide angle lenses actually seem to work best for very close up subjects. Your landscapes need to be massive for it to work super wide. I think the other thing you're missing is compression which can add depth to a photo.

  • @Dimitris1982
    @Dimitris1982 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent job and very good advices, i really enjoy it and i learn things from this video, thanks

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank man, I'm glad you liked it!

  • @ironmonkey1512
    @ironmonkey1512 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Brent I am in Albuquerque and have found the same, everything out here is so small and far away I rarely reach for wide angle.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh nice! I'm glad to see some fellow New Mexicans in the comments. :P

  • @ElBoyoElectronico
    @ElBoyoElectronico ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha, ever since I got my RF-100-500, I have switched to only taking landscape pictures with longer focal lengths. Nowadays my only lens for hiking is the RF100-500. It takes amazing wildlife shots, is capable of some macro work, takes great portraits and - with some thought - can take amazing landscape pictures.

  • @yusufabdulsalam
    @yusufabdulsalam ปีที่แล้ว

    I found your video on using PRO mode on Samsung S20 useful... i own one and would be experimenting soon!
    I'm a marketer and was thinking of helping you launch a comprehensive course someday... that teaches stuff you know about photography. Would you be open to that in the future?

  • @prosunsport1
    @prosunsport1 ปีที่แล้ว

    The cause was Canon used Blue medium strength loctite, they changed from a certain serial number to red high strength loctite, there is a service bulletin regarding this .

  • @richardpriebe4183
    @richardpriebe4183 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great subject, Brent. We seem to see this in a similar way. I agree with you that using ultra wide angle lenses takes special consideration. I think that's why my RF 24-105 f4 L IS the lens I use more often than any other. It's a good compromise, decently wide at 24mm, but versatile enough for a multi exposure pano, or even a cropped "faux pano". But I too have the 14-35 in my pack all the time for when the situation is right for it.
    Unlike you I don't do much wildlife, so my 100-400 spends a lot of time in my "alternate" pack, and often doesn't even make it into the truck. As a result it's my RF 70-200 f4 L that gets called on for many of my longer reach landscapes.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The RF 70-200 is definitely one of my favorite lenses. It's just incredible and I absolutely love the IQ, size, and weight of it! Only problem is my copy of it belongs to Camera Lady and whenever we're out she usually has it, so I roll with my 1-5, lol.

  • @RichardBO9
    @RichardBO9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! The milky way time lapse is awesome! 🤩 Camera lady has been knocking it out of the park with the b-roll. I have a 17-40 and as time has gone on find myself shooting panoramas with a 65:24 crop more at the longer end of the lens. Rarely shoot wider than 28mm. I think I could do everything landscape with a 28mm prime and a 100-400 zoom.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, she definitely appreciates that! And yeah, I also find myself shooting more panos with 24-35mm on the wide end of things too.

  • @exrog
    @exrog ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great video and i am definitely looking forward to seeing your review on the "Roofnest Meadowlark ."

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks man! I'm hopefully gonna do an initial review of it here pretty soon. I'm looking forward to it. Loving it so far.

  • @cmichaelhaugh8517
    @cmichaelhaugh8517 ปีที่แล้ว

    So very true. I keep a 16-35 in my bag but still can’t say I’ve mastered it.

  • @schmidt28117
    @schmidt28117 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the portrait wide angle shots. Some of the not so common views are really eye catching. Square shots are another one. Thanks for the video!

  • @wanderland_xyz
    @wanderland_xyz ปีที่แล้ว

    Some awesome stuff in this one, sir! I especially loved the "lifestyle astro" pano and overnight time-lapse, very very cool. Just a shame the weather wasn't also cool--I've been eyeing those temps out west and definitely feel for you. The unrelenting heat is primarily what finally drove me out of Florida a few years back! As for ultrawide, there was a time that was my go-to, but now it's fairly rare. Like you, if I have just one lens it's usually the 100-500mm, because it's just awesome. I still like the interesting-ness of ultrawide shots, but you're right--it takes some understanding of when and how to best use it, and some diligence in composing and processing. These days I more prefer stitching frames together into a pano or wide-angle.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, I think that astro pano came out to be my favorite of the trip. The heat is rough, for sure. We didn't even bother leaving the house (we only live 25 mins from here) until 7pm, and then left as soon as the sun came up, lol. It never dropped below 78 the whole night. I don't miss living in FL either though, I hate humidity.

  • @jeffreyhill4705
    @jeffreyhill4705 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sorry, i have not searched your videos, but have you ever tried a tilt shift lens? Also the tent mounted on the subie, what is that?

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I have tried a tilt shift lens, many years ago, but never owned one. The tent is called the Roofnest Meadowlark. It's new, and I will be doing a video about it very soon.

  • @sbaugh
    @sbaugh ปีที่แล้ว

    This has been super helpful and inspiring. I know, in my heart, I love wide angle. But, I just have failed at so much at it. This has changed my thinking and given me some inspiration to continue. My new Fuji 8mm will thank you as well.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, I'm really glad the video helped!

  • @seb2549
    @seb2549 ปีที่แล้ว

    City of Rocks rocks 😁, love the suv/milky way/rocks shot, it is amazing! Love the rooftop tent too! Really appreciate the great discussion on wide/long for landscape. We miss NM.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I miss NM every time I leave too, even if it's just for a couple days, lol. I'm so spoiled living here.

    • @seb2549
      @seb2549 ปีที่แล้ว

      We are from Ontario, Canada, but NM just "calls to us", at least we get to visit it now and then :)

  • @stevearita3267
    @stevearita3267 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video, really enjoyed watching the timelapse...especially the one in the evening...really quite amazing. All your thoughts on wide angle lenses were spot on...I bought Sony 12-24 GM a few years ago...and love the out of this world sharpness...but as you correctly pointed out...one has to think carefully when shooting with it. Thank you for doing this video, really appreciate watching you teach us!

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man, I'm so glad you enjoyed it! And yeah, I actually love wide angles, they just take some effort though, lol. But every time I go out and decide to put forth that effort, I'm almost always happy with my results. There was another comment on here just a bit ago where the guy said I'm using the wide angles wrong and misleading my viewers to discourage them from using wide angles! I don't think he was picking up what I was putting down, lol.

  • @paulomateus3083
    @paulomateus3083 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great one thanks! How's your shoulder?

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! It's still messed up, but the VA gave me some steroid injections recently that definitely took care of the pain. Surgery is still a go, but for sometime in Oct probably.

    • @paulomateus3083
      @paulomateus3083 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrentHall hope it gets fixed! Take care

  • @johnchedsey1306
    @johnchedsey1306 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have all sorts of lenses (modern & vintage) but there are two that I always carry in my bag no matter what: The RF 15-35mm and the RF 100-500. (IMO, two of the absolute best lenses Canon ever made). I actually very much agree with you about the drawbacks of wide angle lenses. I got my first "real" wide angle lens about six years ago and it did take quite a bit of practice to understand how to compose a good shot with it and the situations where it's best to use one. Nowadays I know when to pull it out for the best results, but I was also highly motivated to learn how to get the most of out it. I completely agree that the 100-500 will work great for landscape shots, especially doing panos and stitching together shots.
    Things like bracketed exposures and focus stacking are definitely doable, but once again, that does come down to the motivation of the individual. The Canon R5 + the aforementioned 15-35 lens actually handles focus stacking handheld just fine. But not everyone is going to drop the amount of money for that body + lens. The other aspect of shooting with a wide angle is thinking about cropping. I often go for the 16:9 ratio to balance the composition better. Wide angle is also great when you do have cool clouds doing interesting things...but empty blue skies aren't the best for those lenses.
    I'm rambling now. I think some hobbyist photographers should realize their kit lens or a good 50mm will do just fine for landscape photos. Good video and I'm now following you on instagram since we're southwest photography neighbors! (Hello from Tucson)

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey thanks for the kind words John, I really appreciate it! That 15-35+1-5 is an awesome combo! My 14-35+1-5 is my absolutely favorite combo, and what I shoot with basically 99.9% of the time.

  • @brianrose2487
    @brianrose2487 ปีที่แล้ว

    100k soon! Great video and take care

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks man! Yeah, getting close, should be a few more months.

  • @DSOImager
    @DSOImager ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny.. I just picked up a cheap wide angle lens on prime day. I picked it up mostly for Milky Way shots. Speaking of Milky Way.. awesome timelapse and astro-living shots.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh nice! Yeah, I never actually leave home without some sort of wide lens, just in case I feel like putting the effort in for something.

  • @gpdoyon
    @gpdoyon 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s unfortunate that the much longer lenses are so much more expensive than a wide angle. Good information.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah, good glass is pricey! I will say though, for a budget option, my new favorite long lens is the RF 100-400. It's just incredible. Sharp, light, affordable, versatile. Good for wildlife and landscape. I basically never leave home without it because it's so easy to carry around, and the 100-400 range is probably my all time favorite for landscapes. I don't think I had bought it yet when I made this video.

  • @spidersj12
    @spidersj12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the roof tent setup. I always think thy cat, especially small cars won't hold the weight of who's sleeping on top of it.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      I like it a lot so far too. The ladder is actually what helps distribute our weight, so the roof doesn't take the full load while we're up there.

  • @BrentODell
    @BrentODell ปีที่แล้ว

    Wide angle lenses are definitely tricky(much like rocking a rhyme).

  • @martharetallick204
    @martharetallick204 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only 100 degrees at sunset? Come to Tucson!

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I almost did the other day. You guys has some epic storms there for a night or two.

  • @WHEELSRT7
    @WHEELSRT7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Every time...soon as you change lenses...something cool shows up....like the vertical

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, it's definitely a classic me experience 😅😂

  • @Hummingbirder1
    @Hummingbirder1 ปีที่แล้ว

    07:38 Uhm... you forgot to tell what was right overhead... Common Nighthawk? Must've been, let's hope my memory hasn't totally abandoned me!😅

  • @MooseBear82
    @MooseBear82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's a nature and wildlife photographer, I find that I shoot with my 100 to 500 about 90% of the time or more.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      I basically almost never take it off my R5. It's my favorite lens of all time.

  • @JaredDoyle76
    @JaredDoyle76 ปีที่แล้ว

    I shoot most of my best landscapes with my 85mm. If I want to take in a wide FOV I'll shoot a panorama with the 85mm.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh nice! I love the 85mm focal length.

  • @seaned8
    @seaned8 ปีที่แล้ว

    How to make a 5 minute video last half an hour, it's all right here for you.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's my superpower...

  • @Hummingbirder1
    @Hummingbirder1 ปีที่แล้ว

    (16:53 Black-throated Sparrow? Fast little bugger!) Edit 26:36 Ah, I see... yes, it was!

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep, they're one of my favorites!

  • @KyleJones-kk8vw
    @KyleJones-kk8vw ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope that was an Emperor’s New Groove reference…

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว

      YASSS!!!!

    • @wanderland_xyz
      @wanderland_xyz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BrentHall And then Hercules! Shame about James Woods these days, but that was a good part for him. :)

  • @georgeandreou695
    @georgeandreou695 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you're totally wrong on this. Some of my best landscape shots are with my 14mm. Your fellow TH-camr Mads Peter Iversen is a big fan of both wide angle and telephoto lenses for landscapes and demonstrates the benefits of both on the same shoot. I think the issue is the environment you tend to shoot in; big landscapes. Of course you will lose the details in the distance. And they're not just for close up subjects, shooting waterfalls, for example, can provide a sense of scale and the context of the subject within its environment. I think it's misleading for your viewers to discourage them from shooting wide angle landscapes. I would urge them to look at some of Mads' videos to see what a great asset a wide angle can be. It's another string in your bow, and makes you think a bit more to see things a little differently.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think you seriously misunderstood the message of this video. The title is a summation of many comments I have received over the years, from people who have been frustrated with why their wide angle shots didn't turn out like they'd hoped. Like I said in the video, I love wide angles, and always carry one with me no matter what I'm doing. I am not DIScouraging people from using wide angles, I am, in fact, ENcouraging them to learn to use them properly and showcasing how then, they will be happier with their wide images.
      You are absolutely correct when saying photographing big landscapes with distant subjects is not the ideal use case for wide angles...that was EXACTLY my point as well, and I demonstrated the difference in the video! I also went over a few other things to help make better use of wide angles.
      Your last statement, about wide angles being another asset...again, I completely agree, and that's what I showed.
      Also, judging from the rest of the comments and feedback, I don't think most people have felt misled in my video meaning at all, but I am very sorry if that's the conclusion you came to after watching. It was the exact opposite of my intention.

    • @jayallan-eq4tq
      @jayallan-eq4tq ปีที่แล้ว

      I would urge everyone to avoid Mads videos. I watched him once and he claimed freaking geese were flying through the scene and we just couldn't see them. He added them in post. Stay away from that BS artist.

  • @truthseeker6804
    @truthseeker6804 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wide angle is not disappointing. you are disappointing yourself by consistently trying to use the wide angle like a telephoto lens to get closeup on objects in the background or foreground. let wide angle be wide angle as its intended purpose, learn how to use it and appreciate its use cases. in photography and videography the only one who disappoints himself is the one behind the camera/lens not the camera/lens.

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right...that was the point of the whole video. When people don't know how to use a wide angle and the best ways to approach a scene, they are often disappointed with their images, but when they learn how to properly use a wide angle and understand all the technical stuff, then wide angles have much more potential and are much more fun to use.

  • @alexandermckown1409
    @alexandermckown1409 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do you take so many "Time Lapse" shots. Do your subscribers really want these types of shots? Why are you son interested in them? I very much like your YouTude videos, so not complaining, just interested. Alex

    • @BrentHall
      @BrentHall  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I take them for a few reasons, the first being I just really love them. The second is that I sell them as stock footage. The third is that, yes, many of my viewers do enjoy the timelapses as well.

  • @paddyola1
    @paddyola1 ปีที่แล้ว

    15mm wide macro for mini landscapes are good