love seeing how other players make builds. you clearly really like feydark and honestly i can't blame you, it has something any character can use. personally i love feydark for the free enlarge spell. but careful, once you go enlarge spell, you can't go back 😫
You asked about the most-powerful pen&paper character(s), not only in DDO... That's a WHOLE bag of Crawlers, dude! (I've been playing since _original_ whitebox+GreyhawkSupplemental, December 1976...) That includes a bit of everything you can imagine, including house-rules, third-party materials, and some experimental... The top-of-the-heap after all that has to be a multi-class half-elven (human-elf) Ranger/Specialty Mage [multi-spectrum: derived from articles in DIFFERENT WORLDS magazine]/Cleric ... She "retired" at a total power that we decided was AT LEAST equal to the quasi-deities as they were defined at the time. (Have made an effort to convert the lady to 3.5 rules plus a few adaptations, and have versions scaled for a variety of "power levels"; I still bring her out occasionally to test-run published adventures I've not experienced previously.)
Wow.. you have been playing a very long time., one Christmas my brother and I was give out first introduction to Dungeons and Dragons back in 1978. it was the Basic and Advance box sets. And we expanded into many other realms as well. Thank you for your post. i appreciate your dedication to this game..
Alright, I agree that paladin is a nice class to try out the game, albeit its somewhat complicated if you start getting into its nuances. Alchemist, for heroic/epic/legendary/raid/reaper10 content is just one of the (if not the) best nuker class in the game, and well you can easily solo content with it, as it has a lot of defensive spells. Sorcerer is hands down the strongest class in the game as you just literally nuke everything and after level 20 even faster than alchemist. Barbarian is the SAFEST class to learn the game, as you can solo R1 (which i highly don't encourage) as a first life, fresh 28pts char after level 3. Now it gets complicated if we are talking about the absolute most powerful classes overall or not, if we are then the list is wrong and if we are talking about most powerful classes to start playing the game, it still is wrong as honestly people would not know what to do with a wizard or sorcerer and build it very bad and have a bad experience. Barbarian - Paladin - Druid - Cleric - Dragon Lord (not in this specific order) are the best classes to learn about the game because they offer a lot of survivability even if you screw up the build. The most powerful Classes would be Sorcerer - Alchemist - Dragon Lord - Druid - Monk (not in this order) Also not taking in consideration multiclassing but that is not the discussion in this video. Still good explanation but weirded me out when the list came out lol
Arty is one of the most versatile classes. they can be successful at ranged dps, pure spell caster, tank melee, dps melee, and all of these options can trap and have high spot/search. they are Swiss army knives with power tool blades.
I found these vidoes in my archive. they will be closest that I can get to replicating the first life Paladin. Part 1 th-cam.com/video/r8_KuNVB-tM/w-d-xo.html Part 2: th-cam.com/video/koY5MUu_0sQ/w-d-xo.html part 3: th-cam.com/video/foPuLnS8OFg/w-d-xo.html >> I hope this puts you in the right directions for what you seek.
Elightenment Warlock on Cacari and White Dragonborn is my go-to. I can now run, with ~40 reaper points, reaper 5 in my group and tank reliably. Make no mistake, my range is weaker, but if it come to tanking for my group and hitting single-target DOTs, I can't recommend it enough for fun and survivability. I don't know how it would do in end-game reaper 10s, but... my 2 guildies and I don't run those, so I don't actually care.
Dude, you are sleeping on the Dragonlord. That dragons roar stun, the sunder insta kill, with a two-handed weapon.........epic. You can kill mobs 5 or 6 at a time in mere seconds.
My first life half-orc dragon lord wielding falchion has been great. Concentrated on strike through. Can slice through mobs like they are a single target.
I think you ought to qualify that this list is for beginning characters with low past life and reaper point counts as when you get to higher amounts of past lives and reaper points the power scaling changes dramatically and some classes that were a struggle become crazy strong and some that were super powerful just don't quite stack up anymore. I know you are doing pure build here but you should look at taking a shadar kai and splashing in some levels of bard for swashbuckler and from there you can fill the rest out with a variety of classes depending on what you like including wizard for eldritch knight, barbarian for extra hand axe crit profile dragon lord for CC, druid for wolf form, etc. I don't have a build but there are tons of options the chain attack is wild. 3-5 levels bard swashy, 1 level rogue (SDK) is a strong base for melee shenanigans
If you're going to showcase builds, at least do it with Maetrim's builder so it's easy to see the full potential at level 32. Showcasing a level 15 or 8 with radomgen gear is underwhelming unless you're focusing on hardcore builds. And a Dragon Lord using GCS? C'mon. Dragon Roar is plenty of CC, and your GCS DC is gonna be crap. Not that you really need to CC during elite/R1 leveling -- mobs die fast enough. Put those AP into Ravager for some damage. Dark Apostate is fine for elite/R1 leveling but is lame at end game because it doesn't scale well. Sorc >>>> Wiz all day long because of spell casting speed and spell cooldowns. Imbue builds fall off in damage in high skull reaper because it's spell damage and all spell damage is nerfed even further than melee/ranged. And while Paladin is a fine class, the fact that Razorclaw Shifter handwraps or even a vanilla Rogue 20 with daggers didn't make your top 5 means you need to spend more time talking to people about what a "powerful" build is.
Very instrersting perspective. Appreciate the thoughts. And you're right. I do need more details for the most power builds. I was just showcasing more for beginners wanting to know where basically to start their first life journey at. So that's why it was just more basic information on general class, not indepth builds. However, great information.
@@8Smoker8 Dont need a video when I'm already playing them. I'm sure OP meant well, but he doesn't have the depth of knowledge or experience to make an accurate "top 5 build" video. This top 5 list would get laughed off the forums.
Doesn't bother me. Just wish they'd state some good builds I could try out. The ones I listed, I do the best with personally. Maybe it's just my play style or what I really like to play. Thanks for commenting.
@@tuskreapergaming Well in my opinion the characters you made were great, if you want to have fun and appreciate a dnd class. Alot of builds can crush it. I have played the game from the first week til present day and have everything completed on my main. I have played the meta and have had about 500 lives at least on him. That being said from my experience that I loved the builds you presented and they are fun. I am not looking to play a fad or meta these days and want to enjoy the game and these characters allow you to do that. They are great picks. Alot of people think that over powered is fun but alot of people have fun by crushing the game with others in a group and having fun that way, instead of trying to make the show all about them. Any way LOVE the video its a great content. if your ever on Khyber and see Thulsadoom say HI
10 seconds in and I'm expecting the top 3 to be : - Eldritch Knight Wizard - Paladin - Barbarian Bottom three should be: - Battle Cleric - Base fighter (sword and board) - Rogue (any flavor)
Just make your dragon lord a 2 hander and you kill everything in 1 to 3 hits and you don’t need to worry about Vorp attacks at all. Also dragonlord does not need color spray it’s a waste of points just cc if needed with your dragon lord roar, it works on almost everything outside of bosses. There are so many better dragon lord builds.
@@tuskreapergaming yup, that's why no matter what 5 you pick there will always be people with valid arguments as to why class x is better. the depth of this game is amazing. been playing for like 15 years and I'm still learning things
Sorc is far more powerful than the Wiz. the number of spells is irrelevant the pure nuking power of the Sorc is unmatched. I have played hundreds of lives of both Wiz & Sorc & can confirm that Sorc is far more DPS. IMHO it should be Sorcerer - Alchemist - Warlock - Dragon Lord - Monk
Mh, my choices: Fighter - Best tanks Barbarians - Best Melee DPS Monks - Best ranged DPS (a loooot of survivability) Druid - A lot of ways to play casters, so I'll go with Druid because I think they are the most well-round casters Cleric - Best healers and secondary tanks with protection domain I will mention other 2 classes very strong on what they do but not so simple to understand or not so strong as the other i mentioned, so not in top 5... Bard - Best buffers Alchemists with some warlock and monk splits - best debuffers
At relatively low-levels, the druid's wolf companion (esp. with Brother Wolf active) is pretty darn strong for solo play; taking at least one level of Dark Hunter provides the weapon proficiencies and at least SOME disable device plus lockpicking
love seeing how other players make builds. you clearly really like feydark and honestly i can't blame you, it has something any character can use. personally i love feydark for the free enlarge spell. but careful, once you go enlarge spell, you can't go back 😫
You asked about the most-powerful pen&paper character(s), not only in DDO... That's a WHOLE bag of Crawlers, dude! (I've been playing since _original_ whitebox+GreyhawkSupplemental, December 1976...) That includes a bit of everything you can imagine, including house-rules, third-party materials, and some experimental...
The top-of-the-heap after all that has to be a multi-class half-elven (human-elf) Ranger/Specialty Mage [multi-spectrum: derived from articles in DIFFERENT WORLDS magazine]/Cleric ... She "retired" at a total power that we decided was AT LEAST equal to the quasi-deities as they were defined at the time. (Have made an effort to convert the lady to 3.5 rules plus a few adaptations, and have versions scaled for a variety of "power levels"; I still bring her out occasionally to test-run published adventures I've not experienced previously.)
Wow.. you have been playing a very long time., one Christmas my brother and I was give out first introduction to Dungeons and Dragons back in 1978. it was the Basic and Advance box sets. And we expanded into many other realms as well. Thank you for your post. i appreciate your dedication to this game..
Alright, I agree that paladin is a nice class to try out the game, albeit its somewhat complicated if you start getting into its nuances.
Alchemist, for heroic/epic/legendary/raid/reaper10 content is just one of the (if not the) best nuker class in the game, and well you can easily solo content with it, as it has a lot of defensive spells.
Sorcerer is hands down the strongest class in the game as you just literally nuke everything and after level 20 even faster than alchemist.
Barbarian is the SAFEST class to learn the game, as you can solo R1 (which i highly don't encourage) as a first life, fresh 28pts char after level 3.
Now it gets complicated if we are talking about the absolute most powerful classes overall or not, if we are then the list is wrong and if we are talking about most powerful classes to start playing the game, it still is wrong as honestly people would not know what to do with a wizard or sorcerer and build it very bad and have a bad experience. Barbarian - Paladin - Druid - Cleric - Dragon Lord (not in this specific order) are the best classes to learn about the game because they offer a lot of survivability even if you screw up the build.
The most powerful Classes would be Sorcerer - Alchemist - Dragon Lord - Druid - Monk (not in this order)
Also not taking in consideration multiclassing but that is not the discussion in this video.
Still good explanation but weirded me out when the list came out lol
Yes! Alchemist is super slept on by the whole community, but it is a powerhouse with enough versatility and range to handle any content
The Necronomicannon makes any weapon insta-kill anything.
A well built storm singer would out perform anything in your top 5
That is also a great choice..
and someone with perfect gear and 1000 past lives will out perform your stormsinger
First time player and purchased the feywild pack just for your wizard build. Looks fun as hell and unique to me.
feywild is a crazy fun pack also
It's been a while, welcome back.
As a soloist, I really like arty. Plus I use the same decent equipment each life....
Arty is one of the most versatile classes. they can be successful at ranged dps, pure spell caster, tank melee, dps melee, and all of these options can trap and have high spot/search. they are Swiss army knives with power tool blades.
Can you make a video of how you created your Drow Pally on character creation?
If there is... can you direct me to the video?
Thank you.
@@maddogmko ill take a look at this. I can get at least pretty close. Would be a new toon and first lifer.
@@tuskreapergaming Thank you Tusk.
I found these vidoes in my archive. they will be closest that I can get to replicating the first life Paladin. Part 1 th-cam.com/video/r8_KuNVB-tM/w-d-xo.html Part 2: th-cam.com/video/koY5MUu_0sQ/w-d-xo.html part 3: th-cam.com/video/foPuLnS8OFg/w-d-xo.html >> I hope this puts you in the right directions for what you seek.
Elightenment Warlock on Cacari and White Dragonborn is my go-to. I can now run, with ~40 reaper points, reaper 5 in my group and tank reliably. Make no mistake, my range is weaker, but if it come to tanking for my group and hitting single-target DOTs, I can't recommend it enough for fun and survivability. I don't know how it would do in end-game reaper 10s, but... my 2 guildies and I don't run those, so I don't actually care.
That's awesome you are getting that kind of performance out of that class! Thanks for commenting..
Dude, you are sleeping on the Dragonlord.
That dragons roar stun, the sunder insta kill, with a two-handed weapon.........epic.
You can kill mobs 5 or 6 at a time in mere seconds.
My first life half-orc dragon lord wielding falchion has been great. Concentrated on strike through. Can slice through mobs like they are a single target.
Worst dragon lord build I’ve seen. Couldn’t even finish his video his builds are so bad
I think you ought to qualify that this list is for beginning characters with low past life and reaper point counts as when you get to higher amounts of past lives and reaper points the power scaling changes dramatically and some classes that were a struggle become crazy strong and some that were super powerful just don't quite stack up anymore. I know you are doing pure build here but you should look at taking a shadar kai and splashing in some levels of bard for swashbuckler and from there you can fill the rest out with a variety of classes depending on what you like including wizard for eldritch knight, barbarian for extra hand axe crit profile dragon lord for CC, druid for wolf form, etc. I don't have a build but there are tons of options the chain attack is wild. 3-5 levels bard swashy, 1 level rogue (SDK) is a strong base for melee shenanigans
If you're going to showcase builds, at least do it with Maetrim's builder so it's easy to see the full potential at level 32. Showcasing a level 15 or 8 with radomgen gear is underwhelming unless you're focusing on hardcore builds. And a Dragon Lord using GCS? C'mon. Dragon Roar is plenty of CC, and your GCS DC is gonna be crap. Not that you really need to CC during elite/R1 leveling -- mobs die fast enough. Put those AP into Ravager for some damage. Dark Apostate is fine for elite/R1 leveling but is lame at end game because it doesn't scale well. Sorc >>>> Wiz all day long because of spell casting speed and spell cooldowns. Imbue builds fall off in damage in high skull reaper because it's spell damage and all spell damage is nerfed even further than melee/ranged. And while Paladin is a fine class, the fact that Razorclaw Shifter handwraps or even a vanilla Rogue 20 with daggers didn't make your top 5 means you need to spend more time talking to people about what a "powerful" build is.
Very instrersting perspective. Appreciate the thoughts. And you're right. I do need more details for the most power builds. I was just showcasing more for beginners wanting to know where basically to start their first life journey at. So that's why it was just more basic information on general class, not indepth builds. However, great information.
Sorc is powerful because of immunity stripping, not a slightly shorter cast time.
@@JK-pp2xl Then you've never heard of instakilling sorcs.
hey maybe you could make a video about the most powerful builds! I'll wait.
@@8Smoker8 Dont need a video when I'm already playing them. I'm sure OP meant well, but he doesn't have the depth of knowledge or experience to make an accurate "top 5 build" video. This top 5 list would get laughed off the forums.
great job! to many negative comments they must be on the forums a lot :D
Doesn't bother me. Just wish they'd state some good builds I could try out. The ones I listed, I do the best with personally. Maybe it's just my play style or what I really like to play. Thanks for commenting.
@@tuskreapergaming Well in my opinion the characters you made were great, if you want to have fun and appreciate a dnd class. Alot of builds can crush it. I have played the game from the first week til present day and have everything completed on my main. I have played the meta and have had about 500 lives at least on him. That being said from my experience that I loved the builds you presented and they are fun. I am not looking to play a fad or meta these days and want to enjoy the game and these characters allow you to do that. They are great picks. Alot of people think that over powered is fun but alot of people have fun by crushing the game with others in a group and having fun that way, instead of trying to make the show all about them. Any way LOVE the video its a great content. if your ever on Khyber and see Thulsadoom say HI
10 seconds in and I'm expecting the top 3 to be :
- Eldritch Knight Wizard
- Paladin
- Barbarian
Bottom three should be:
- Battle Cleric
- Base fighter (sword and board)
- Rogue (any flavor)
we play very differently
1- Sorc
2- Blightcaster
3- Warlock
4- Favored Soul
5- bard/stormsinger
Nice choices for sure.
A lot of good with blight caster, but everyone keeps telling me not that great in epics, especially trying higher reaper
@@petervarcoe2030 lol I am a reincarnator, I don't stuck in end game that iften
Just make your dragon lord a 2 hander and you kill everything in 1 to 3 hits and you don’t need to worry about Vorp attacks at all. Also dragonlord does not need color spray it’s a waste of points just cc if needed with your dragon lord roar, it works on almost everything outside of bosses. There are so many better dragon lord builds.
Cold Druid? Sorc? DL should maybe at the top?
@davidr1138 in all fainess.. there are so many great builds in DDO one is able to do. That's why I still love this game..
@@tuskreapergaming yup, that's why no matter what 5 you pick there will always be people with valid arguments as to why class x is better. the depth of this game is amazing. been playing for like 15 years and I'm still learning things
Sorc and Alchemist are so powerful they blew right past this list. And paladin over barbarian?
How does a barbarian self heal?
@@nilsalmgren4492 There's heals on rage & stuff in Fury
noob list
Sorc is far more powerful than the Wiz. the number of spells is irrelevant the pure nuking power of the Sorc is unmatched.
I have played hundreds of lives of both Wiz & Sorc & can confirm that Sorc is far more DPS.
IMHO it should be Sorcerer - Alchemist - Warlock - Dragon Lord - Monk
Mh, my choices:
Fighter - Best tanks
Barbarians - Best Melee DPS
Monks - Best ranged DPS (a loooot of survivability)
Druid - A lot of ways to play casters, so I'll go with Druid because I think they are the most well-round casters
Cleric - Best healers and secondary tanks with protection domain
I will mention other 2 classes very strong on what they do but not so simple to understand or not so strong as the other i mentioned, so not in top 5...
Bard - Best buffers
Alchemists with some warlock and monk splits - best debuffers
Whats your favorite build out of all of those you listed?
At relatively low-levels, the druid's wolf companion (esp. with Brother Wolf active) is pretty darn strong for solo play; taking at least one level of Dark Hunter provides the weapon proficiencies and at least SOME disable device plus lockpicking
Your opinions and characters are so bad they make me laugh, so thanks for that.
Thanks for watching.
Sorc should be on the list.