I hope he adds physics to buildings, so there wouldn't just be random floating bases that you have to build up to in plates, it's just weird. Also I disagree with the chainsaw raiding, maybe in 4.0 he should add a flamethrower or something like that which you could use for wood base raiding, but chainsaw raiding would be cheap, and if he lowered the spawn rate of chainsaws then you couldn't even get one for chopping down trees.
+llEMCll fair points but if you've played 2.0 you'd know that chainsaw raiding was fun as hell he would definitely have to find a way to make it balanced but if he did it right it would be super dope
+Axel2025 that would be dope I think as long as it's not your hands or something stupid like a flash light you should be able to raid with just about anything
U r right about the horde beacon but in some servers like 2connect community (PVE SERVERS) most weapons(Rare and better weapons) the rareness of em is so hug so that u can only get them by horde beacons... Yes we can tell the owners but horde beacons are fun and take some extra time to spend... *THAT IS WHAT I THINK*
Agree with everything except chainsaw raiding. If you want to get rid of horde beacon to make bases last longer chainsaws would take over as the op raid weapon
i think we should be able to put layers to walls and stuff so if your wall have 1-3 layers of wood a chainsaw will break it but with 1 will be easier than with 3 and then more than 3 you should have a explosives or a raiding gun to raid
+JoacoAttack or if different items did different tiers of damage for example a chain saw takes 5 min to break a wall where a charge can take out 3 walls
Nice video, sorry I haven't been able to watch any of the other ones recently (this goes for Jswag too) I just haven't had the time of day/night to do anything. Spent most of last night working on a school project... essays, papers due, writing, dealing with a situation at school... yikes. But yeah I agree with most of these points, and hopefully 4.0 is good and I'll want to start making Unturned content again. gud job comrade
I agreee with most of these, I might disagree with the plates ones, mabye don’t remove them, just make them harder to craft, instead of just a log, mabye a saw for actually making that perfect square shape, mabye glue, or tape, or just make it so you can can’t build plates specifically after a certain height, I also agree with the Plugins thing, that’s definitely a issue, all the plugins servers annoy me
I made a video about this topic on my channel suggesting different solutions to the current problems in the game, and Nelson actually responded to it. The change he made to the way ammo is loaded into guns in the new 4.0 devlog was actually suggested by me in the video and he said my coalition concepts would be a great long term goal. I highly recommend you watch it (I don't want promotion from you I just think you'd enjoy it). (Btw It's unlisted to you have to go into the videos tab of my channel to see it)
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I know it's an old video, but I gotta say your the first person I can completely agree with on this one. Horde needs to be removed for sure. And the game has gotten so much easier and more pvp based than ever. Great content! Keep it up
Well.. *Horde beacons... Should be removed from unturned because It's too easy to craft, complete also free xp and the loot is religious... 8 high tier items per each person.. U should be getting high tier items from dead zones so u have to be farming fire stations to get gas masks and filters and be able to loot deadzones for raiding gear.. Now this days the only way not to get raided is make a huge base airlocks, hcombs.. "structure stacked" - Let me explain to you.. You need a friend for this. You and your friend will place for example a wall at the same place at the same time (during the building animation) now raiders need to destroyed 2 walls instead of 1.. (Hope u understand my English is garbage..). Other options not to loose your stuff is put it on your empty characters.. But u can do this only if bought unturned gold ubdate.. then u are good to go. So simply go to the characters menu in unturned and pick from any other characters, choose the same group u and your friends are using. After u logged on took your goodies leave with that character and your stuff is safe and sound.
I agree with Everything you said except that it should go back to survival the reason people join PVP and 100 times is because that’s what they wanna do so why take it away from people
Tyler Dodd if people want non stop pvp then they can go arena. I'm not against the idea of having pvp servers but it's very rare to find good vanilla servers now
I dont understand why people want the fcking horde beacon ... You know if you farm at a military point you can easily craft some charges ... So it will maybe took you 2-5 hours to raid 1 base and if you find a dragonfang or Nykorev (Hells fury ...) you fcking lucky and must refill it with your ammo boxes ... So raiding is completly balanced if you just put the horde beacon out of the game. I hope 4.0 will be a good survival game and not a bullshit game where everyone play on a 4 times loot server with tpa and home. (sry for my bad english)
In regards to chainsaws raiding bases, that's a terrible idea. I've recently gone back and actually played 2.0 on a decent multiplayer server and it's awful. Within a day or two your base is completely looted. The reason you could raid with chainsaws back in 2.0 was because salvaging wasn't introduced yet, chainsaws were the only way to efficiently edit and modify your own base. And the only reason you've really given is because "it only makes sense to me". While it would be more realistic, gameplay should always be prioritized over realism. This keeps the game fun and fair while not necessarily logical or real. Even if chainsaws were really rare, I'd always prefer the old c4 charge based raiding because it took time to collect and let bases last long amounts of time. I'd heavily advise against supporting chainsaw raiding. As for most of your other thoughts, they're pretty spot on with what I'd say as well. The plugin and mod support leading to 3.0's current state is definitely something we need to discuss though. However, 4.x will be using official servers (that you'll have to purchase one way or another) and those will be Vanilla servers. If there is enough demand then the official vanilla servers will expand in quantity and give you access to a better, more fun experience.
+Teh Wakko yeah I understand why you wouldn't want chainsaws in for the same reason I don't want horde beacons in the game it makes it too easy to raid thus defeating the point of building because it would just get destroyed in under 24hrs but I don't think you took into account the fact that I said that it should not raid everything such as metal walls or lockers but instead only wooden items so if you really wanted to make a base that would last you could either honeycomb or build full Metal and I do agree that it shouldn't be 100% realistic however some things should be more realistic to offer multiple possibilities rather than the same old grind every time. Making it so you could melee raid would make it so you would have to strategies how you build your base Btw thanks for contributing to the conversation :)
I had initially considered your solution with metal parts not being chainsaw-able, but I just brushed it off since metal would be so hard to collect, thus making most bases easily raided (like they are now). However, after putting some more thought into that aspect, it could potentially lead to an interesting meta. One where you make your starting wooden base, but throughout the next day or two, upgrade the center of it to be a full metal vault. This would eventually evolve into a larger and larger vault with the only the outer wood areas being raid-able by chainsaws. It could work out, but some things definitely need to differ from 2.0. Going off of your comment about "less damage", I'd give each wooden wall a 5 minute duration before a chainsaw can break it. Adding a 5 minute delay would force raiders to be incredibly patient (especially for any base with more than 2-3 layers). Additionally, this would necessitate the use of metal by base builders. In 3.0's current state, wood is normally adequate since it protects your items from outsiders and is essentially just a metal wall with less health (the low health can be compensated with more walls). However, if chainsaws could break through, then that would force the use of metal walls and/or more creative base designs. The 5 minute delay would also mean that geared raiders using charges or other items would still prefer common raiding methods versus just chainsawing all of your wooden structures. This and the even rarer chainsaws could lead to a good raiding and building system in 4.x. I'm not entirely sure just yet, but chainsaws could make the meta very interesting. Raiding with and without chainsaws is definitely something that should be tested in the upcoming beta.
yeah i definitely think there's some potential for melee raiding it seems like it does well in many other survival games Rust being one example and realistically you should be able to raid with just about anything but it should take a ridiculous amount of time kitchen knife = 1 hr XD camp ax= 15 min
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I hope he adds physics to buildings, so there wouldn't just be random floating bases that you have to build up to in plates, it's just weird.
Also I disagree with the chainsaw raiding, maybe in 4.0 he should add a flamethrower or something like that which you could use for wood base raiding, but chainsaw raiding would be cheap, and if he lowered the spawn rate of chainsaws then you couldn't even get one for chopping down trees.
+llEMCll fair points but if you've played 2.0 you'd know that chainsaw raiding was fun as hell he would definitely have to find a way to make it balanced but if he did it right it would be super dope
On top of that, there are alternatives, such as a Fire Ax, a "Camp Ax", or, if possible, a makeshift chainsaw, if it's going to be possible in 4.0.
+Axel2025 that would be dope I think as long as it's not your hands or something stupid like a flash light you should be able to raid with just about anything
+FR4GM3N It's possible, but may be buggy af.
+FR4GM3N like rainbow 6 siege that would be dope
4.0 needs iNsAne surViVaL
+TheForgedWarrior yup
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if the plates is gone how will they raid a skybase? through a plane? or heli? what if the base is a skylimit base?
U r right about the horde beacon but in some servers like 2connect community (PVE SERVERS) most weapons(Rare and better weapons) the rareness of em is so hug so that u can only get them by horde beacons... Yes we can tell the owners but horde beacons are fun and take some extra time to spend... *THAT IS WHAT I THINK*
Agree with everything except chainsaw raiding. If you want to get rid of horde beacon to make bases last longer chainsaws would take over as the op raid weapon
+Centrylex yeah but if you don't want to get chainsawed build in metal
i think we should be able to put layers to walls and stuff so if your wall have 1-3 layers of wood a chainsaw will break it but with 1 will be easier than with 3 and then more than 3 you should have a explosives or a raiding gun to raid
+JoacoAttack or if different items did different tiers of damage for example a chain saw takes 5 min to break a wall where a charge can take out 3 walls
Nice video, sorry I haven't been able to watch any of the other ones recently (this goes for Jswag too) I just haven't had the time of day/night to do anything. Spent most of last night working on a school project... essays, papers due, writing, dealing with a situation at school... yikes. But yeah I agree with most of these points, and hopefully 4.0 is good and I'll want to start making Unturned content again. gud job comrade
no problem comrade i understand as always
could not watch when it came out i was at school but keep up the really great work!!!
+GodlyDirector
I agreee with most of these, I might disagree with the plates ones, mabye don’t remove them, just make them harder to craft, instead of just a log, mabye a saw for actually making that perfect square shape, mabye glue, or tape, or just make it so you can can’t build plates specifically after a certain height, I also agree with the Plugins thing, that’s definitely a issue, all the plugins servers annoy me
+Volodea Simioniuc you have some good points thanks for contributing :)
I made a video about this topic on my channel suggesting different solutions to the current problems in the game, and Nelson actually responded to it. The change he made to the way ammo is loaded into guns in the new 4.0 devlog was actually suggested by me in the video and he said my coalition concepts would be a great long term goal. I highly recommend you watch it (I don't want promotion from you I just think you'd enjoy it). (Btw It's unlisted to you have to go into the videos tab of my channel to see it)
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4.0 needs better optimization. I run like 15-20 FPS. Even GTA IV runs better and that’s one of the worst PC ports ever.
I know it's an old video, but I gotta say your the first person I can completely agree with on this one. Horde needs to be removed for sure. And the game has gotten so much easier and more pvp based than ever. Great content! Keep it up
+Sidica Gaming thanks fam
I play unturned since 2.2.3, for my experience, the game is not more survival, is more pvp and that is a shame for the game
I agree ...
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Well..
*Horde beacons...
Should be removed from unturned because It's too easy to craft, complete also free xp and the loot is religious... 8 high tier items per each person..
U should be getting high tier items from dead zones so u have to be farming fire stations to get gas masks and filters and be able to loot deadzones for raiding gear..
Now this days the only way not to get raided is make a huge base airlocks, hcombs.. "structure stacked" - Let me explain to you..
You need a friend for this. You and your friend will place for example a wall at the same place at the same time (during the building animation) now raiders need to destroyed 2 walls instead of 1..
(Hope u understand my English is garbage..). Other options not to loose your stuff is put it on your empty characters.. But u can do this only if bought unturned gold ubdate.. then u are good to go.
So simply go to the characters menu in unturned and pick from any other characters, choose the same group u and your friends are using. After u logged on took your goodies leave with that character and your stuff is safe and sound.
I apologise for my bad English ... I know it's horrible...
Lol I am dumb... from 4.0 to tricks... that's my English..
+YendaS Knihovnikk it's not that bad I get what you mean. Thanks for contributing :)
Z00M B ok, ty
your english isnt that bad
They need to make the zombies harder to kill its the main part about the game
Dude I would play unturned 24/7 if you made 100% vanla server
I agree with Everything you said except that it should go back to survival the reason people join PVP and 100 times is because that’s what they wanna do so why take it away from people
Thats why there is so many servers join what u want to play
Tyler Dodd if people want non stop pvp then they can go arena. I'm not against the idea of having pvp servers but it's very rare to find good vanilla servers now
Z00M B true true i see what your saying
were are your skins when they change the design of the gun
4.0 will be a separate steam game, so you would keep your 3.0 items as a separate game
Yeah, make the horde becon harder to make
MEh WEh sEH Feh Beh TEh Keh HEHEHEHEHEH Bish i agree with you
+MadoX plays u wot
I dont understand why people want the fcking horde beacon ... You know if you farm at a military point you can easily craft some charges ... So it will maybe took you 2-5 hours to raid 1 base and if you find a dragonfang or Nykorev (Hells fury ...) you fcking lucky and must refill it with your ammo boxes ... So raiding is completly balanced if you just put the horde beacon out of the game. I hope 4.0 will be a good survival game and not a bullshit game where everyone play on a 4 times loot server with tpa and home. (sry for my bad english)
4.0 better fix the downloadable content from disappearing from time to time. I’ve lost all of my shit from that!
4.0 NEED PVP
*i wud like to see potatos be better*
4.0 no rolplay. end.
love the no plates thing. actually didn't pass my head.
i agree with everything you said. MAKE UNTURNED SURVIVAL AGAIN.
+LiamDoesGame yes
+LiamDoesGame y33
LiamDoesGame YES
I gonna ban Horde beacon when i make a server
i want them to bring vanilla servers back im sick of 100x 50x 10x 5x loot servers full vanilla no commands hard mode or normal Like if you agree
In regards to chainsaws raiding bases, that's a terrible idea. I've recently gone back and actually played 2.0 on a decent multiplayer server and it's awful. Within a day or two your base is completely looted. The reason you could raid with chainsaws back in 2.0 was because salvaging wasn't introduced yet, chainsaws were the only way to efficiently edit and modify your own base.
And the only reason you've really given is because "it only makes sense to me". While it would be more realistic, gameplay should always be prioritized over realism. This keeps the game fun and fair while not necessarily logical or real. Even if chainsaws were really rare, I'd always prefer the old c4 charge based raiding because it took time to collect and let bases last long amounts of time. I'd heavily advise against supporting chainsaw raiding.
As for most of your other thoughts, they're pretty spot on with what I'd say as well.
The plugin and mod support leading to 3.0's current state is definitely something we need to discuss though. However, 4.x will be using official servers (that you'll have to purchase one way or another) and those will be Vanilla servers. If there is enough demand then the official vanilla servers will expand in quantity and give you access to a better, more fun experience.
+Teh Wakko yeah I understand why you wouldn't want chainsaws in for the same reason I don't want horde beacons in the game it makes it too easy to raid thus defeating the point of building because it would just get destroyed in under 24hrs but I don't think you took into account the fact that I said that it should not raid everything such as metal walls or lockers but instead only wooden items so if you really wanted to make a base that would last you could either honeycomb or build full Metal and I do agree that it shouldn't be 100% realistic however some things should be more realistic to offer multiple possibilities rather than the same old grind every time. Making it so you could melee raid would make it so you would have to strategies how you build your base
Btw thanks for contributing to the conversation :)
I had initially considered your solution with metal parts not being chainsaw-able, but I just brushed it off since metal would be so hard to collect, thus making most bases easily raided (like they are now). However, after putting some more thought into that aspect, it could potentially lead to an interesting meta. One where you make your starting wooden base, but throughout the next day or two, upgrade the center of it to be a full metal vault. This would eventually evolve into a larger and larger vault with the only the outer wood areas being raid-able by chainsaws.
It could work out, but some things definitely need to differ from 2.0. Going off of your comment about "less damage", I'd give each wooden wall a 5 minute duration before a chainsaw can break it. Adding a 5 minute delay would force raiders to be incredibly patient (especially for any base with more than 2-3 layers). Additionally, this would necessitate the use of metal by base builders. In 3.0's current state, wood is normally adequate since it protects your items from outsiders and is essentially just a metal wall with less health (the low health can be compensated with more walls). However, if chainsaws could break through, then that would force the use of metal walls and/or more creative base designs. The 5 minute delay would also mean that geared raiders using charges or other items would still prefer common raiding methods versus just chainsawing all of your wooden structures. This and the even rarer chainsaws could lead to a good raiding and building system in 4.x.
I'm not entirely sure just yet, but chainsaws could make the meta very interesting. Raiding with and without chainsaws is definitely something that should be tested in the upcoming beta.
yeah i definitely think there's some potential for melee raiding it seems like it does well in many other survival games Rust being one example and realistically you should be able to raid with just about anything but it should take a ridiculous amount of time kitchen knife = 1 hr XD camp ax= 15 min
Fair enough. But I'd still stick to the chainsaw and axe only.
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I want rp and no sky base and lots of survival
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I think you should be able to raid with a car just drive through the fuckin wall
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Not plates dont removed it makes unturned like fortnite xD
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