Thanks, glad to hear you liked the video. Agree it is an impressive little bike, can’t wait to see a version of the Scram with the new 450cc Sherpa engine
I dunno. For a couple of hundred bucks more you get a taco, centre stand, rear rack, windscreen, compass, switchable ABS on the rear. I kinda like the look of the Himi. I might have to ride both and see the difference.
I think these bikes are more designed for the Asian market than the Western and having bought the Scram, I feel 411CC is enough in a country that has bumper to bumper traffic most days. Tried the interceptor 650 too and that bike literally burnt my legs off due to the heat while riding in the city. The scram also heats up but is not that uncomfortable. Also TBH both scram and Himalayan feel very different when you ride them back to back. I was planning to get the Himalayan but Scram felt so good. Very fun motorcycle. Breaks could have been much better though. What surprised me was the engine refinement. From 70-90kmph on 5th gear it feels like you’re riding an electric bike.
I like this bike, but I've got a 390 Duke. If I sold it to buy a 411, I'd probably regret it. Those are wet weights, aren't they? I like the blue. I wish it had a rev counter instead of that nav thing. I thought the headlight shroud was metal. 6:53 Great shot. 8:16 And another! 9:10 What a handsome bike.
I’ve got a mate who had a Duke 390, great bike also, certainly a bit more power, but to me it didn’t feel as solid as the Scram and servicing and serving costs as a bit of an issue here in Australia, not to many KTM dealers around, certainly not too many I’d trust. Read into that what you will,
@@BikerTorque Im in Thailand. I get mine serviced by a Ducati racer who services his race bikes. The charge: 4 hours at 100 baht per hour. 100 baht = 2.20-2.50 GBP, depending on exhange rate. Peanuts.
Personally I like the looks a lot more than the Himalayan. And here in Aus it’d be fun to have something to tackle the dirt roads on the way to a campsite etc.
Im still riding a Honda XL with a 23in front wheel, so i laugh at people who critique the difference in steering between a 19 and 21 in wheel. You can chuck anything around once you get used to it. Not a Himmy killer. Good compromise and the weight saving is good, but needs a centre stand i reckon.
Great video as always Ross! The smaller front rim is what makes this a far more accessible street bike where you really can throw it into corners and feel in control. Not that you can’t with the Himi 21 inch front, but this feels much more suited to the bitumen. Will be great to see what accessories come out for the scram!
@@BikerTorque not so much of an issue as most of the Himalayan accessories already work for the scram...but anything unique for this bike might really help RE create an identity for this one
I think these bikes are more designed for the Asian market than the Western and having bought the Scram, I feel 411CC is enough in a country that has bumper to bumper traffic most days. Tried the interceptor 650 too and that bike literally burnt my legs off due to the heat while riding in the city. The scram also heats up but is not that uncomfortable. Also TBH both scram and Himalayan feel very different when you ride them back to back. I was planning to get the Himalayan but Scram felt so good. Very fun motorcycle. Breaks could have been much better though. What surprised me was the engine refinement. From 70-90kmph on 5th gear it feels like you’re riding an electric bike.
I think you'll find the headlamp cowl is aluminium, not plastic! I have no problem with the seat and although the Himi is initially plush, I find that starts to go off after 30 miles and the sides push into the inner thighs. The Scram is good and remains good for me. After a lifetime of all sorts of bikes, I love my Scram. Helluva bike. I also have an Interceptor 650 which I also love, and agree that it would spoil the Scram to use the twin. With a few more ccs and ponies, yes, it would be improved - maybe a 500-550. But I think it might also lose some of the charm it has.
Agree that it is a helluva bike, and must admit I have missed it a little bit. The rumoured Himi / Scram 450 sounds spot on, although liquid cooled. Thanks for watching
@@BikerTorque thanks! Keen to try the Wombeyan caves road one day. Going by the footage, those local trails mustn’t be too far from the Sutherland shire? I live along the Georges river and have been looking for a place to try my bike’s off-road capabilities.
Hi mate great review! I'm in my late 40's, new to riding and looking at my Lams approved next bike. I'm torn between the Classic 350 (love the look!) and the Scram 411 (so practical!). Although I haven't yet tested these 2 bikes, they both feel very comfortable when sitting. I live in Melbourne so I will be riding mainly on weekends, day trips here and there. Which bike is better for our 80-100km/h speed limit roads and overall more comfortable to ride all day long in your opinion?
Both bikes will do 100kms per hour no problem. If it were me ( like you late 40s) I’d go the Classic just because it is so dam stylish. I’d suggest test ride them both, and maybe also consider the Interceptor, there’s a reason that bike is one of the best selling learner legal bikes around. I’ve reviewed all three, so if your interested, check out the other reviews. Thanks for watching, hope you found the review useful.
I love the Scram and agree that a 650 version would take away some of it's charm and increase the price. I am interested to see the 450 and I might be tempted to trade in my 411? Just for context I have been riding for 30+ years and most of the last 20 has been on cruisers. The Scram was something completely different for me and I have no regrets.
yes like the look when I see the himmie I always wonder if it is descended from an industrial shelving system. this looks good and pleasantly slightly retro650 no thanks too heavy cooling problem between the tw cylinders. a 450 version sounds ideal as long as its not all bore size. the long stroke gives it the decent torque at lower revs. the ability to tractor along at low revs is great off road good point about the seat, thanks will keep that in mind when I go look at one, well done roy
Cracking review and though I think the scram is a bit late to the rescue of this engine (considering [1] most RE bike will tackle any terrain and [2] the lower priced and better accessorised Hunter) it still seems to be doing good numbers! RE is definitely on a roll and they seem to know the pulse of the market!
Thanks for watching. It would a much better bike with a flat bench seat but it’s still a cracker. Glad you liked the review. More reviews coming up very soon
I like the styling. But in saying that, I would probably get the Meteor 350 over it. But if your heart is set on a Scrambler style of bike. This looks like very good value.
"always ready for whatever life has in store" *except highways lol. Until 60mph or 90kmph it is great, it can do more, but it is a pain. But I bought anyway and don't regret it.
The only Con I have with this beauty is absence of rear shock protection from mud, water etc. It will be out of order several times during that famous 3y warranty. Plus there is no space for aftermarket solution.
Waiting for the hunter. Lighter again alloy wheel tubeless tires and better for urban filtering. Less power is the downside. Not sure about size of the hunter I’m 182cm 90kg. I like the upright riding position. I miss my old Honda FTR 223 it was a fun. I hate the tank guards on the scram. I can only find a video I of a guy removing them in India but did not show the end result.
It still struggles at around 70 mph, and its weird because their new 450 single will be out in 2023. Are they going to continue with these 411 air cooled mills?
I doubt they will continue with the 411cc if and when a 450 is released. Still no official word for Royal Enfield regarding a 450 as far as I have heard.
Great review man. I could use a 15kg weight reduction!!!! That would make my himi perform better for sure. Lol. I reckon the Scram is a winner. I love it!!!
Your production quality is insane! Keep making videos like this and you’re gonna be a mainstay of motorcycle youtubers in no time!
I appreciate that! We will keep plugging away
Impressive little bike and a well made video. NO BS, proper straight talking, much appreciated.
Thanks, glad to hear you liked the video. Agree it is an impressive little bike, can’t wait to see a version of the Scram with the new 450cc Sherpa engine
Great video! The production is very good!
Much appreciated!
You deserves more subsribers. Your production quality and quick into matter with out wastage of time are the things i like most.
I appreciate that! Channel is slowly building, spread the word. Thanks for watching and glad to hear you like the format
I dunno. For a couple of hundred bucks more you get a taco, centre stand, rear rack, windscreen, compass, switchable ABS on the rear. I kinda like the look of the Himi. I might have to ride both and see the difference.
Definitely take both for a test if you are in the market for this style of bike
Agree with those comments. Having had a Triumph Tiger Trail 750 back in 82, a 650 version has a lot of appeal.
I think these bikes are more designed for the Asian market than the Western and having bought the Scram, I feel 411CC is enough in a country that has bumper to bumper traffic most days. Tried the interceptor 650 too and that bike literally burnt my legs off due to the heat while riding in the city.
The scram also heats up but is not that uncomfortable. Also TBH both scram and Himalayan feel very different when you ride them back to back. I was planning to get the Himalayan but Scram felt so good. Very fun motorcycle. Breaks could have been much better though. What surprised me was the engine refinement. From 70-90kmph on 5th gear it feels like you’re riding an electric bike.
Really enjoyed an Aussie's perspective on this bike. Fantastic review.
Thanks mate, glad you enjoyed the review.
Nice video, information, music. I buy today my Scrambler 411(grafit/blue). I'm 64 but still beginner, only first year ride.👍🙏🛠️🎉
Have fun!
I enjoyed the video as always Ross.I think the Scram is a much nicer looking bike than the Himalayan.Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks again for watching Trevor. Agree the Scram looks much better than the Himi.
Great review Ross. I love the looks and simplicity of the Scram, including the air cooled engine. Maybe a nice second bike…
It would be a very good second bike
The comment about your plums was just nuts
Ohh….good dad joke. Wished I’d have though if that one
I like this bike, but I've got a 390 Duke. If I sold it to buy a 411, I'd probably regret it. Those are wet weights, aren't they? I like the blue. I wish it had a rev counter instead of that nav thing. I thought the headlight shroud was metal. 6:53 Great shot. 8:16 And another! 9:10 What a handsome bike.
I’ve got a mate who had a Duke 390, great bike also, certainly a bit more power, but to me it didn’t feel as solid as the Scram and servicing and serving costs as a bit of an issue here in Australia, not to many KTM dealers around, certainly not too many I’d trust. Read into that what you will,
@@BikerTorque Im in Thailand. I get mine serviced by a Ducati racer who services his race bikes. The charge: 4 hours at 100 baht per hour. 100 baht = 2.20-2.50 GBP, depending on exhange rate. Peanuts.
Love the look of it. If it had circa 35bhp, I would be looking to buy one.
Apparently a new 450 coming out so you never know
Totally agree with your seat comment, I've only had a test ride but sure noticed that as a potential issue.
Yes apart from the seat it’s a brilliant bike. I do think the seat looks good, but definitely not the most comfortable
Personally I like the looks a lot more than the Himalayan. And here in Aus it’d be fun to have something to tackle the dirt roads on the way to a campsite etc.
That’s very true. Great bike for a bit of light off roading
Give me function over looks any day - no good having a looker than won't give you a blowjob............
Im still riding a Honda XL with a 23in front wheel, so i laugh at people who critique the difference in steering between a 19 and 21 in wheel. You can chuck anything around once you get used to it. Not a Himmy killer. Good compromise and the weight saving is good, but needs a centre stand i reckon.
23” front would certainly be a challenge, agree it could do with a centre stand, pretty sure it can be added as an option.
Very good vídeo, this bike arrives here in Brazil in 1 week🎉
Thanks glad you enjoyed the video. Its a good little bike, take one for a ride if you get a chance once they arrive. What do you currently ride?
@@BikerTorque I currently ride a Yamaha Ténéré 250, a project that almost only exists in Brazil.
Great video as always Ross! The smaller front rim is what makes this a far more accessible street bike where you really can throw it into corners and feel in control. Not that you can’t with the Himi 21 inch front, but this feels much more suited to the bitumen.
Will be great to see what accessories come out for the scram!
Yes, be interesting to see what they come out with in the accessory line
@@BikerTorque not so much of an issue as most of the Himalayan accessories already work for the scram...but anything unique for this bike might really help RE create an identity for this one
I think these bikes are more designed for the Asian market than the Western and having bought the Scram, I feel 411CC is enough in a country that has bumper to bumper traffic most days. Tried the interceptor 650 too and that bike literally burnt my legs off due to the heat while riding in the city.
The scram also heats up but is not that uncomfortable. Also TBH both scram and Himalayan feel very different when you ride them back to back. I was planning to get the Himalayan but Scram felt so good. Very fun motorcycle. Breaks could have been much better though. What surprised me was the engine refinement. From 70-90kmph on 5th gear it feels like you’re riding an electric bike.
Thanks for watching. Agree they are great in Asian market but still have there place in countries like Australia
I think you'll find the headlamp cowl is aluminium, not plastic! I have no problem with the seat and although the Himi is initially plush, I find that starts to go off after 30 miles and the sides push into the inner thighs. The Scram is good and remains good for me.
After a lifetime of all sorts of bikes, I love my Scram. Helluva bike. I also have an Interceptor 650 which I also love, and agree that it would spoil the Scram to use the twin. With a few more ccs and ponies, yes, it would be improved - maybe a 500-550. But I think it might also lose some of the charm it has.
Agree that it is a helluva bike, and must admit I have missed it a little bit. The rumoured Himi / Scram 450 sounds spot on, although liquid cooled. Thanks for watching
Great review. Where is that dirt road you took this bike and the trumpy scrambler on? I’d like to take my svartpilen 😊
In the Triumph Scrambler it was the Wombean Caves Rd. On the Scram 411 it was just some fire trails near where I live.
@@BikerTorque thanks! Keen to try the Wombeyan caves road one day. Going by the footage, those local trails mustn’t be too far from the Sutherland shire? I live along the Georges river and have been looking for a place to try my bike’s off-road capabilities.
Hi mate great review! I'm in my late 40's, new to riding and looking at my Lams approved next bike. I'm torn between the Classic 350 (love the look!) and the Scram 411 (so practical!). Although I haven't yet tested these 2 bikes, they both feel very comfortable when sitting. I live in Melbourne so I will be riding mainly on weekends, day trips here and there. Which bike is better for our 80-100km/h speed limit roads and overall more comfortable to ride all day long in your opinion?
Both bikes will do 100kms per hour no problem. If it were me ( like you late 40s) I’d go the Classic just because it is so dam stylish. I’d suggest test ride them both, and maybe also consider the Interceptor, there’s a reason that bike is one of the best selling learner legal bikes around. I’ve reviewed all three, so if your interested, check out the other reviews. Thanks for watching, hope you found the review useful.
@@BikerTorque Thanks mate, really appreciate your feedback and excellent reviews! I will be testing these 3 bikes soon.
I love the Scram and agree that a 650 version would take away some of it's charm and increase the price. I am interested to see the 450 and I might be tempted to trade in my 411? Just for context I have been riding for 30+ years and most of the last 20 has been on cruisers. The Scram was something completely different for me and I have no regrets.
The Scram certainly is a bit different to a cruiser. Thanks for watching
yes like the look when I see the himmie I always wonder if it is descended from an industrial shelving system. this looks good and pleasantly slightly retro650 no thanks too heavy cooling problem between the tw cylinders. a 450 version sounds ideal as long as its not all bore size. the long stroke gives it the decent torque at lower revs. the ability to tractor along at low revs is great off road good point about the seat, thanks will keep that in mind when I go look at one, well done
roy
Thanks for watching Roy, glad you enjoyed the video
Cracking review and though I think the scram is a bit late to the rescue of this engine (considering [1] most RE bike will tackle any terrain and [2] the lower priced and better accessorised Hunter) it still seems to be doing good numbers! RE is definitely on a roll and they seem to know the pulse of the market!
Thanks for watching. Yes the Hunter does look the goods.
Last gasp to make something out of the 411 platform and sell a few more bikes before a move to the 450cc liquid cooled bikes
I like it a lot! I agree that it needs a flat seat but I'm going to buy one anyway! Great review 👍
Thanks for watching. It would a much better bike with a flat bench seat but it’s still a cracker. Glad you liked the review. More reviews coming up very soon
I LOVE IT!
Thanks
I felt the same about the mirrors so put the RE touring mirrors on. Sorted.
Yes good ideas, the RE touring mirrors would be a much better option
Awesome review thank you
Thanks for watching! Do you own one or planning to buy one?
I like the styling. But in saying that, I would probably get the Meteor 350 over it.
But if your heart is set on a Scrambler style of bike. This looks like very good value.
The Meteor of s a great little bike, but this is more capable if you want to do some off roading
Esta cool la moto
100%👍👍👍
"always ready for whatever life has in store" *except highways lol. Until 60mph or 90kmph it is great, it can do more, but it is a pain.
But I bought anyway and don't regret it.
😂😂😂 I actually think it went ok @ 90kms per hour. Either way great fun bike
The only Con I have with this beauty is absence of rear shock protection from mud, water etc.
It will be out of order several times during that famous 3y warranty.
Plus there is no space for aftermarket solution.
Maybe, maybe not, time will tell. Thanks for watching and taking the to make a comment
Nice vlog
Thanks
Thanks for watching
Just looking at that seat I agree with you totally. It’s a shame it has to go up for the pillion rider
I actually think it looks great, it’s just not practical
I'm 66 years old love my scram hate the seat hopefully royal Enfield will make a gel seat to suit.
Does anyone know where to get a gel seat for my scram in Australia
Not sure but maybe check with your local dealer.
Yes, I loved the look of the seat, but did find it really uncomfortable
The scram is a run out special to create interest in a old model (first sold in 2016) that is about to be replaced.
That may be the case, but it’s still a pretty good little bike.
Waiting for the hunter. Lighter again alloy wheel tubeless tires and better for urban filtering. Less power is the downside. Not sure about size of the hunter I’m 182cm 90kg. I like the upright riding position. I miss my old Honda FTR 223 it was a fun.
I hate the tank guards on the scram. I can only find a video I of a guy removing them in India but did not show the end result.
The Hunter does look good, and that 350 engine is a little gem
It still struggles at around 70 mph, and its weird because their new 450 single will be out in 2023. Are they going to continue with these 411 air cooled mills?
I doubt they will continue with the 411cc if and when a 450 is released. Still no official word for Royal Enfield regarding a 450 as far as I have heard.
Hmmm... Hard to look past a Versys 300 or CRF 300 for around the same $$.
Haven’t ridden either of those, but the CRF does look like a good bike, how do they go on the freeway
Mate that was a generous score with squashed to bruised plumbs 😖🤣😂a 7 for me 😎👍🏼
It lost 2 points, one for each plumb
@@BikerTorque might need to empty them before every ride 😳 for safety reasons
@@BigBert 😂😂😂
Scram!!!
Indeed
Why no leg guard.
Leg guard?
@@BikerTorque the thingy that saves your legs in case you fall sideways.
Good 👍💯🌎🕊️🇹🇭
👍
Great review man. I could use a 15kg weight reduction!!!! That would make my himi perform better for sure. Lol.
I reckon the Scram is a winner. I love it!!!
Thanks Big Stef, I reckon I could do with a 15kg weight reduction also😂😂😂
@@BikerTorque but that means less burgers and pies. We can’t have that.
@@whatsstefon yep, that’s the flaw in my plan.
@@BikerTorque Flaw? I don't get it!
I like himi
Yeah it still a good bike
If the Scram was a 650, I'd buy it. Same with the Himilaya. 411?? Give me a break.
I agree that the a version of the Scram as a 650 would be great, but it would be a very different bike for a different market. Break given.👍
How do they make a bike for $8500 these days! Good value that.👌👍🍻
Very good value
Power ist just a little bit too small...
411ccm is ok, but 10PS more, it was perfect..
Another 10bhp would make a little bit of a difference
I said this a while ago...
Thanks for watching
Nope .... Its a perfect machine
It certainly is a great bike, but no bike is perfect.
It's should be 411 with a model level of performance not 1980 XL250. It's a lazy engine. Peak power at 6500rpm... cheap bike though, looks great too.
Yep it’s a good looking little Scrambler
I thought Aussies say Him A lay An... what is this HIM aaarrrr li yaannn ???? you speak of ??? Muz
lol, it’s a similar bike to the Him A lay An, just more authentic
650? No, its a 400 duh. And it's Hym a layan.
Ah, ok
Hahahaha. 5 day old fruit salad.
Squishy
Beef it upto a full 500 single thumper 👍 also 21" front wheel as an option please. Cracking bike as it is though 🤗👍
That would be cool! But rumour has it they have a 450cc liquid cool version on the way
Hahahaha. 5 day old fruit salad.
You know the type.