@Alexander Harper Damn, both of you found this video from 2 years ago, at the exact same time, and are commenting about instagram? Someone tried hard on these bots.
A key part of playing bf-109s is also mind games Matching a bf-109s maneuvers just so they don’t have an altitude advantage, isn’t always the smartest move
@@flak8842 yeah, german planes (and american planes) need some practice and prior knowledge to use effectively, they're not like spits where turning is the most effective startegy.
The reason why the F6F Hellcat can outmaneuver the Bf-109 is that because it was the American answer to the Japanese A6M Zero that ruled the skies of the 1941-42 Pacific. The Americans have to make a fighter which can outclass the Zero in terms of all aspects. As a result, the F6F was born. The plane almost outmaneuver the A6M Zero which is the reason why that American plane can outturn the Bf-109. The good news for the Japanese is that the A6M improved it's maneuverability by the A6M3 Model 22 which can outturn the F6F with ease but the bad news is that despite this, the F6F is far more superior than the A6M at most aspects. Meanwhile far from the Pacific where American planes BnZ'ed Japanese Zeros, the F6Fs in Europe was proven to be maneuverable than most German planes at the time which gave the Germans such headache that Bf-109s refused to dogfight with it. For the Germans, the Hellcat is a bane for Luftwaffe fighters at the time because unlike the Bf-109 and Fw-190, the Hellcat was lightweight. And that's how the F6F so deadly against the German Luftwaffe
Yeah, and even when it looks like a 1v1, expect one of the following to happen: 1. An enemy comes out of no where and pilot snipes you 2. A teammate comes out of no where and steals the kill and you don't get credited for an assist 3. An enemy comes out of nowhere and crashes into you 4. An ally comes out of no where and crashes into you 5. The plane you're fighting crashes into the ground and you don't get credited for a kill 6. An ally comes out of nowhere and crashes into the plane you're chasing 7. All of the above...all at once
Nice bleed of enemy speed :-) But wtf to do on his place? Nice informatv video + on map like this you have contrails that help in detemating enemy state of speed and position .
in his position what i do is, keep my speed up high as possible, lag pursuit, the enemy without pitching my nose up too much, an f6f is fast on the deck, so get the bf 109 to play a game of speed rather than vertical fighting
3:25 what was that? that scared me and I thought it was coming from behind me. All in all, great video and very very useful!! high recommend for newbies like me.
this series was rly helpful,i keep in goin head on with others instead of being smart,there was also this one time where this dude with his 109's were all shredded by my one single sea hurricane,he kept head to head for revenge but i got em either way.
I cut my teeth on P-40's in this game, and it took me an embarassingly long time before I could re-train my instincts to put the nose UP after making my attack run in this thing. I currently rock the Finnish 109G-6 after practicing with the German G-6.
Always climb the bf 109 is superior if its got the alttitude advantage. If someone has the alt you are screwed best call is probably a head on or dive away.
With bf109s as of this patch all you can do is dive away, when i 1st played this game, you could get them in a split S energy trap ( th-cam.com/video/eAsPeRyEFYQ/w-d-xo.htmlm9s ) have a look at that, the rudder on bf 109s and fw 190s have been nerfed over time. at this tier if you use mec controls and get spitfires to dive down with u to the deck, their engines overheat, so take advantage of that.
Yes, almost every BF 109 in the progression tree has a significant climb advantage over other nation's planes. Take a look at the American planes, they're by far the fastest in the game and have a significant advantage hold in that category (which is why you shouldn't try to stretch outwards, that american plane is going to catch up).
@@reitairue2073 damn I didnt expect a reply to this, honestly forgot I even watched this but yeah, haven't played war thunder in so long so I have no clue what this means or if anythings changed lol
Don't worry about the skill level buddy, add me in game Green_fury my discord is this Green fury TH-camr#4778 , i fly out with players with a wide range of skills
So you just climb, do a high yo-yo, fire and repeat until you get that kill?
exactly, it conserves energy, makes it hard for the enemy to hit you. and you use your advantages
Personally idk how get the right angle to kill the enemy?
I guess it is more like rope a dope most of the time
@@GreenFuryGaming bro I'm following all of u pros since 2017 i need some tips and help and no one replies to me can u pls help me out? Thanks
@Alexander Harper Damn, both of you found this video from 2 years ago, at the exact same time, and are commenting about instagram? Someone tried hard on these bots.
A little extra tip : If possible. try to get the kill by the 2nd pass. Chances are by the 3rd pass, a plane has already started diving for you
A key part of playing bf-109s is also mind games
Matching a bf-109s maneuvers just so they don’t have an altitude advantage, isn’t always the smartest move
Tried this tactic today, and it still works! I got 4 kills without a single bullet through my plane.
Thanks for the info I'm complete garbage with a bf109s but this is very helpful.
You are not alone buddy
CaptinME thought it was just me, bf109 are not easy planes to fly
bob nonBob not the Fw-190's either
@@flak8842 yeah, german planes (and american planes) need some practice and prior knowledge to use effectively, they're not like spits where turning is the most effective startegy.
The reason why the F6F Hellcat can outmaneuver the Bf-109 is that because it was the American answer to the Japanese A6M Zero that ruled the skies of the 1941-42 Pacific. The Americans have to make a fighter which can outclass the Zero in terms of all aspects. As a result, the F6F was born. The plane almost outmaneuver the A6M Zero which is the reason why that American plane can outturn the Bf-109. The good news for the Japanese is that the A6M improved it's maneuverability by the A6M3 Model 22 which can outturn the F6F with ease but the bad news is that despite this, the F6F is far more superior than the A6M at most aspects. Meanwhile far from the Pacific where American planes BnZ'ed Japanese Zeros, the F6Fs in Europe was proven to be maneuverable than most German planes at the time which gave the Germans such headache that Bf-109s refused to dogfight with it. For the Germans, the Hellcat is a bane for Luftwaffe fighters at the time because unlike the Bf-109 and Fw-190, the Hellcat was lightweight. And that's how the F6F so deadly against the German Luftwaffe
Whenever I fight one I have to remember it's got the soul of a biplane.
These fights are much more entertaining than the dights in the movies. There is so much though and strategy behind dogfights. Blows my mind.
The only problem is that it's very hard to find a 1v1 scenario like this. The vid helped me a lot btw. keep it up Green Fury!
Yeah, and even when it looks like a 1v1, expect one of the following to happen:
1. An enemy comes out of no where and pilot snipes you
2. A teammate comes out of no where and steals the kill and you don't get credited for an assist
3. An enemy comes out of nowhere and crashes into you
4. An ally comes out of no where and crashes into you
5. The plane you're fighting crashes into the ground and you don't get credited for a kill
6. An ally comes out of nowhere and crashes into the plane you're chasing
7. All of the above...all at once
Nice bleed of enemy speed :-)
But wtf to do on his place?
Nice informatv video + on map like this you have contrails that help in detemating enemy state of speed and position .
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i always say that in chat ^-^
nice to see you here
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in his position what i do is, keep my speed up high as possible, lag pursuit, the enemy without pitching my nose up too much, an f6f is fast on the deck, so get the bf 109 to play a game of speed rather than vertical fighting
man that manouver against the f6f was pro shit, loved it
Man, my first air rb match was yesterday and I was flying the G-2/trop and within 7 matches I got 3 kills using this technique.
speed distance climb then boomnszoom "yes master"
3:25 what was that? that scared me and I thought it was coming from behind me. All in all, great video and very very useful!! high recommend for newbies like me.
this series was rly helpful,i keep in goin head on with others instead of being smart,there was also this one time where this dude with his 109's were all shredded by my one single sea hurricane,he kept head to head for revenge but i got em either way.
very helpful, thank you Green Fury!
Ive literally done this in battle right now and it worked.
I cut my teeth on P-40's in this game, and it took me an embarassingly long time before I could re-train my instincts to put the nose UP after making my attack run in this thing. I currently rock the Finnish 109G-6 after practicing with the German G-6.
Thanks for this useful video mate! Have a good life!
Always climb the bf 109 is superior if its got the alttitude advantage. If someone has the alt you are screwed best call is probably a head on or dive away.
thanks so much man for teaching me manouver
I always learn something from your videos. Thanks.
i learned some more stuff on how to master a BF109..i like to pick the closest enemy for an easy kill and make a lead pursuit to get on his six
nice :D listen to those bird or whatever it is at 3:25 xd
haha yeah, we got a huge flock of birds that fly over my place at the time
Green Fury lmao
Not just for WT !! Thank u !
I love playing bf 109. So, to me it is great info. I also need to be at list near your kills, green fury.
The yo yo vertical maneuver is often death for me. They always managed to get theirs guns on me. IDK if i should use that.
Same, takes times to practice, I pull up when i see the enemy on the defensive
Awesome video! Very pedagogic.
Good shit but you gotta use rudder at the top of your stall to hammerhead on him
Just waiting to see if there's a vid tutorial about how to deal with a spitfire on your 6 at altitude :p
With bf109s as of this patch all you can do is dive away, when i 1st played this game, you could get them in a split S energy trap ( th-cam.com/video/eAsPeRyEFYQ/w-d-xo.htmlm9s ) have a look at that, the rudder on bf 109s and fw 190s have been nerfed over time.
at this tier if you use mec controls and get spitfires to dive down with u to the deck, their engines overheat, so take advantage of that.
thanks, I'll take note of that
don't let them get on your 6
Excellent!
I find people shoot at me like 1.2 km away.
Nice but notice that in SIM mode you loose him. As in reallity.
Gaijin viewing system helps boomzoomers play this style.
What do you do to counter the P47 as it seems to climb better than the BF109s at its BR in RB. Like at the beginning of a match at least.
I usually get them to dive on me while i gather large amounts of speed.I will make a high speed reversal video for you sometime this week
Green Fury amazing thanks man. This one usually got me.
Can u do something on the Fw-190?
Good job.
Soviets always tried to engage german pilots to manevuree fight, but germans had a directive order never to do it and use their lovely boomzoom...
Thank you.
recientemente tuve una partida así en m bf109f2 contra un avión ruso, y efectivamente maniobrar verticalmente ayuda demasiado
hello can you translate this in english for me
"Recently i had a match with my bf109f2 against a russian plane, and maneuvering like this really helps a lot"
how do you look back and turn at the same time?
What bf 109 is in your opinion the best ?
when I do that, somehow they get me when I'm extending.
I tested myself and the F6F can only outruns the Bf-109 F-4 at low altitude, above 5000m, the F-4 is 28 km/h faster than the F6F.
What plane is that like what type of 109
What happens if they don't turn and they merge too?
How about one where you are not the third party, and its against a J2m2 and he has more speed and similar alt.
Oh and 3 friends with him but just prob 400 ft below you and the J2m
0:25 i think y could, he was like an idiot stalling himself, and have a low state of energy...
your playing them like a damn fiddle.
Surely he could have dove away from you, built up some speed, instead of following the climbing spiral that you did at the start? Nicely done, tho.
And let a bf109f dive from a higher point
@@sule.A right lmfao, some the people that play this game are..... slow learners lol
Is it encouragable to install gun pods for my 109s? Because my aiming isn't really that good..
idk i wouldnt add anything that adds weight since these things are climbing monsters. just get a bit closer to the enemy before firing
@@loserface3962 thanks for the recommendation
now just dont get your kill stolen
does this work on earlier bf 109's? Cuz im sitting at Bf109 E3
Yes, almost every BF 109 in the progression tree has a significant climb advantage over other nation's planes. Take a look at the American planes, they're by far the fastest in the game and have a significant advantage hold in that category (which is why you shouldn't try to stretch outwards, that american plane is going to catch up).
@@user-ud7cg1nf3h you're ate up if you believe what you said lmao
@@reitairue2073
damn I didnt expect a reply to this, honestly forgot I even watched this
but yeah, haven't played war thunder in so long so I have no clue what this means or if anythings changed lol
@@user-ud7cg1nf3h 🤣👍 I get overly passionate about stuff lol
Nice vid man! What requirements does your squadron have, I rly wanna join but idk if I’m good enough or skilled enough
Don't worry about the skill level buddy, add me in game Green_fury my discord is this
Green fury TH-camr#4778 , i fly out with players with a wide range of skills
Green Fury ok I also applied to TTT45 squadron cuz I was bored XD see you in the skies
Anyone 2020 quarantine?
f6f cannot outturn ANY bf109
Repetition! Repetition!!!!
this shit doesnt work i the bf 109 e1 turns so fucking slow i cant do shit a fucking hurricane just takes me out no problem
Louisiana?
Australia.
@@GalacticLebensraum You're the 2nd Aussie of know of that sounds like they come from Louisiana. How strange the accents overlap like that.