Haven't watched the video, but read the 4.3 pact div description and I'm voting 4.3. T72s, amazing T80U (My love), btr80s, osas. It has all the cool units I want
The 4.3 decks are actually very fresh and interesting. The Bloodhound missile was a super long-range and high-speed, massive rocket. I think the MK3 version was even faster with a 130-mile range equipped with a Nuclear warhead.
Starstreaks and bloodhounds, UK AA we are so back. Theres a bloodhound AA missle mounted in the sunderland air, Sea and Land museum, its fucking massive.
It was the same with the 7th, not great on its own, later completely overshadowed by the 9th. Something tells me neither 7th nor 119 are getting a buff anytime soon
I'm sure like 50 other people have said this but AVRE stands for Armored Vehicle Royal Engineers. Basically it just designates a combat engineering vehicle. Hence why two of them have massive demolition mortars instead of regular tank guns.
18:20 The AVRE is there because not all the AVRE (Armored, Vehicle, Royal Engineers) Centurions used a 165mm demolition gun. Some simply retained their 105s, but they were still Royal Engineer vehicles and both were used for the same purpose.
In MiG-23P the P means Perekhvatchik (Interceptor). It’s a PVO variant for Soviet use only, it could not do air to ground and had a better datalink otherwise it’s MiG-23ML Maybe they will get him better accuracy or something
The Soviet div seems like its gonna be extremely versatile, it will be interesting to see what the best way to use it will be. Will you bring good inf, tanks and air but fewer of all of them or will you sacrifice one of the tabs to fill out the other two.
In real life, the starstreak was also good vs light AT. Hitting an APC with tungsten darts going mach 3 tends to mess them up. I used it for a few years and we trained to counter both air and ground. They even had this in red dragon with the stormer HVM although no word if they will add the same capability. Fact they modeled it in red dragon gives me hope.
I have friends in NI who basically worship thatcher for sending the army in, they always say they basically owe her their lives for not being killed by the ‘separatists’
8:30 panzerfaust 3 is 20rpm for some reason 38:00 they can abbreviate it to Gv. which will look very nice. Gv Konkurs, Gv Sapery, etc 46:10 look up korean airlines 007
It is ridiculous that this game doesn't have as much old stuff as Wargame, despite the 10 year difference in ambience, like, no M36, no M-18, no M24, no Centurions, no Zhalos, no 100mm versions of the BMP, no PT-90, no BMPT, no Norovs, no SU-122, no Aslavs Tows, no M41A1, no Super M60, no MBT-70, no Starship, not a single variant of the V-150, no Ontos, no F-14, no F-18, no Prowlers... among other things that fit the era. I don't understand why they keep copy-pasting shit, instead of adding the diversity of vehicles that were on Wargame already.
This is obviously the most bang for your buck and therefore the obvious choice, but do we want such a ridiculous british meme force? HDR london is a circus, very shameful. Only meme flavor units, positively ruins the vibe and the aesthetics. And guys we must recall the first code of conduct of Eugen as a developer: NO FUN ALLOWED. Is this what Madmat would want, is this what Darrick (pbuh) would have wanted? No. A true inllectual should vote for the east german Trabant division.
It's a shame we can't mix and match Divisions. I really like the West German Division from 4.2 and I like the Soviet Division from 4.3. The UK Division doesn't appeal to me at all. The concept of the Royal Guards not taking time to change out of a Parade uniform is rather idiotic. I definitely understand the argument about new units and all, but if the Division isn't appealing then the new units don't do anything for me. 4.3 will probably win, but man do I want that West German Division.
Is there a reason why we don't get all three? I fully agree the 4.3 is the best bang for your buck, but as a german I was hoping for another Panzergrenadier-division as shown in 4.2 :(.
They really should drop the "politically motivated" resolute trait on the east germans, it creates balancing and price issues and is just stupid. NATO armies and the west Germans in particular would've been more motivated since they are fighting a defensive war for their way of life. They are also better trained, better compensated..... Eugen things.... I agree with the 2ya resolute inf tho, that's justified.
Everybody will vote for this because of cool British div, which is fair, but the soviet one is lacking. There are like 2 new t 72 versions(which are just reskinned t72m) 1 supply truck and 1 recon car nobody will use. Seems like a huge waste of potential, still better than other options i guess (kind of a low bar to reach tbh)
The soviet div has a suite of new-ish infantry and a bunch of new planes in addition to the 3 new tanks. I think it's pretty good. You missed out the new strongest tank in the game haha, and the new T-72s it said would be somewhere between the M and the S
@@hippiehippiehippiehippie will they have a different models and structure tho? I mean, the blog clearly states that british inf will receive a new model, but nothing about soviets. If it's just motostrelky with GVARD title then it's no different. As for t 72 i was refering to the in game model, not characteristics.
@@Lex200680 It says that they will get the resolute trait. As for a new model, I'm not sure. I assume it will be like 27y where they do, but I can't be sure
I'm actually afraid for the balance on this one. 4.1 consists of OP omni-divs made out of existing units. So old and boring, probably very little will vote for it. 4.2 looks a bit more interesting with little new units but it actually feels balanced. Then comes 4.3 with tons of new units so I already predict it to win. But those feel even more OP omni-divs than the first option. How does Eugen think people will not vote for this last option? I'm gonna be voting 4.2 for balance but I'm holding no hope for it winning.
hippie is trying to start beef with the funny accent people. thankfully i dont care because i dont live in a third world country, and will take his word for the situation without thought.
Everyone who not votes for this is a certified braindead person. This is soooo good after 4.1 I thought ist warnover but man if this is in the game it would be so nice to see some new stuff. But i have to say eugen really needs to add some new gamemodes and not just new units
Challengers won't really hold up against T64's and T80's, they never have. They really should be much more accurate. Irl they have the longest recorded tank v tank shot. On move bad, stationary supreme, rifled gun too, not smoothbore, come on Eugen. The Mk2 is base 65% in WG. So why is it 60% base in Warno for the exact same tank?
all of those feats you list are challenger 2s, not challenger 1 Mk 2, similar to how its leopard 1 A 2, they arent challenger 2s. Chally' 2s didnt enter service til '98. think abt it, how would challenger 3s (a thing in game) exist in 1989 if the brits havent actually even fully adopted those yet (they are currently undergoing trials)
@@spencergalland5754 No. In WG there is the Challenger 1 Mk.1 the Challenger 1 Mk.2, the Challenger 1 Mk.3 and the Challenger 2. I am certain the Challenger 1 Mk.2 (same as WARNO) has base 65% stationary, but in WARNO the Challenger 1 Mk.2 is 60% base stationary. Didn't even mention Challenger 2, I said "The Mk.2", referring to the Challenger 1 Mk.2 not Challenger 2. And in WG there's only a Challenger 2 base, no Challenger 2 Mk.1 Mk.2 Mk.3 etc. I'm not terarded, I'm not expecting a Chieftain in WW2 or a Matilda in WW1, I know when tanks did and didn't exist. I'm just speaking from experience that even National Guard "weekend warrior" M1 Abrams have higher base accuracy than the British Army's Challenger 1 Mk.2's. Challenger's get smoked by T-64's, their 19 pen and same accuracy + auto-loader vs the slower than average load time thanks to British 2 piece ammunition + cohesion loss means Chally's end up with 4 RPM if they can't land their first shot. UK Suffers lol
The Chinook HC.1B could have extra ECM and a minigun following the example of the SAS's Chinooks in the Gulf War 🤓
Her Majesty's finest warriors join the fight, no VDV division stands a chance against Dad's Army
RAAAAAAA
Were there any WW2 veteran units in 1980s?
Its almost like Eugen know which one they want to make and just make the other choices crap to guide us into a false sense of choice...
I'm starting to get that impression too xD
This video has been available to me for one minute now but I can confidently say that Hippie's analysis is wrong.
Many such cases!
Haven't watched the video, but read the 4.3 pact div description and I'm voting 4.3. T72s, amazing T80U (My love), btr80s, osas. It has all the cool units I want
It does look like the best PACT option imo
Finally able to use the t80u in 1v1
it's a Moscow guards div. it's would be weird for it not to have the best stuff.
ye almighty boris battalion
@@hippiehippiehippiehippie will we see a return of the tricycle
@@shinanodafloof4491 Sadly not lol
I hope as many WARNO players as possible will use their opportunity to vote - as long as they vote for 4.3...
The 4.3 decks are actually very fresh and interesting. The Bloodhound missile was a super long-range and high-speed, massive rocket. I think the MK3 version was even faster with a 130-mile range equipped with a Nuclear warhead.
*This will get me in trouble, although I don't own a car."
Made me giggle, cheers.
I take your apologies for edit at 31:35
Thanks
To all 4.1 and 4.2 voters: *MAKE WAY FOR THE QUEEN'S GUARDS!*
Curses upon Eugen for making me choose between Redcoats and Landjut.
Vote for the red coats ❤
Starstreaks and bloodhounds, UK AA we are so back.
Theres a bloodhound AA missle mounted in the sunderland air, Sea and Land museum, its fucking massive.
let me be the German to remind you: BETON DAS „R“ BEI ARMBRRRRUST VERDAMMT
Give the burrito back to 79th and delete 119th
Hippie good news your #1 Irish fan just bought you a new car! :)
(keep up the good work/videos)
Now THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. Awesome. Vote 4.3!
119ya will need a rebalance and some buffs if 4.3 wins I feel.
119 needs it anyways mate
It was the same with the 7th, not great on its own, later completely overshadowed by the 9th. Something tells me neither 7th nor 119 are getting a buff anytime soon
I'm sure like 50 other people have said this but AVRE stands for Armored Vehicle Royal Engineers. Basically it just designates a combat engineering vehicle. Hence why two of them have massive demolition mortars instead of regular tank guns.
Voting for this, no contest.
Just fix your eyes in post-production, after you're done with editing out all of the bloopers. 👍 🙃
xD
4.3 or bust
4.3 and bust?
18:20 The AVRE is there because not all the AVRE (Armored, Vehicle, Royal Engineers) Centurions used a 165mm demolition gun. Some simply retained their 105s, but they were still Royal Engineer vehicles and both were used for the same purpose.
In MiG-23P the P means Perekhvatchik (Interceptor). It’s a PVO variant for Soviet use only, it could not do air to ground and had a better datalink otherwise it’s MiG-23ML
Maybe they will get him better accuracy or something
If I remember correctly, the mig-23Ps were made before the ML and and they later modernized most of the Mig-23s to Make because the P airframe sucke d
@lodickasvlajeckou You are probably mistaking it with MiG-23MLD, P is a version of ML for PVO that appeared a few years after ML
4:54 lmao wish more people pointed out this reference 😂
The Soviet div seems like its gonna be extremely versatile, it will be interesting to see what the best way to use it will be. Will you bring good inf, tanks and air but fewer of all of them or will you sacrifice one of the tabs to fill out the other two.
Yeah we'll see. It's OP on paper haha
In real life, the starstreak was also good vs light AT. Hitting an APC with tungsten darts going mach 3 tends to mess them up.
I used it for a few years and we trained to counter both air and ground.
They even had this in red dragon with the stormer HVM although no word if they will add the same capability. Fact they modeled it in red dragon gives me hope.
Great video
Thanks :)
Su-15TM is such good larp I hope 4.3 wins
Cant believe you missed the Bl 5.5 114mm howitzer in the HDR london division you coulda opened steel division to give us a stat rundown and all
Pretty sure I mentioned it
I have friends in NI who basically worship thatcher for sending the army in, they always say they basically owe her their lives for not being killed by the ‘separatists’
8:30 panzerfaust 3 is 20rpm for some reason
38:00 they can abbreviate it to Gv. which will look very nice. Gv Konkurs, Gv Sapery, etc
46:10 look up korean airlines 007
The QF25 Pdr was essentially a copy of a WW1 German howitzer, so in essence, you'll be fighting with WW1 gear lol.
Watching you suffer gaslighting yourself into believing you weren't imagining the ZiS-3 was enjoyable.
It is ridiculous that this game doesn't have as much old stuff as Wargame, despite the 10 year difference in ambience, like, no M36, no M-18, no M24, no Centurions, no Zhalos, no 100mm versions of the BMP, no PT-90, no BMPT, no Norovs, no SU-122, no Aslavs Tows, no M41A1, no Super M60, no MBT-70, no Starship, not a single variant of the V-150, no Ontos, no F-14, no F-18, no Prowlers... among other things that fit the era.
I don't understand why they keep copy-pasting shit, instead of adding the diversity of vehicles that were on Wargame already.
This is obviously the most bang for your buck and therefore the obvious choice, but do we want such a ridiculous british meme force? HDR london is a circus, very shameful. Only meme flavor units, positively ruins the vibe and the aesthetics. And guys we must recall the first code of conduct of Eugen as a developer: NO FUN ALLOWED. Is this what Madmat would want, is this what Darrick (pbuh) would have wanted? No.
A true inllectual should vote for the east german Trabant division.
xD
Yes, we want it (HDR)
as90 looks pretty sick, hope it's the same stats as the dana and msta etc.
I hope it's better
As an American I know the sas from the Iranian embassy seige !
They should put melee in the game just so I can charge in the Dad's Army lads and say they don't like it up em every single game
4:55 theyll just rig your tricycle
Hippie you are so epic I am glad you know what’s up with the Ir*sh 😊😊😊
It's a shame we can't mix and match Divisions. I really like the West German Division from 4.2 and I like the Soviet Division from 4.3. The UK Division doesn't appeal to me at all. The concept of the Royal Guards not taking time to change out of a Parade uniform is rather idiotic.
I definitely understand the argument about new units and all, but if the Division isn't appealing then the new units don't do anything for me. 4.3 will probably win, but man do I want that West German Division.
Same I’m also interested in that German div
These divs are acutally what a good wargame player would put in his deck. Some high value micro intensive units with a lot of spam
Is there a reason why we don't get all three?
I fully agree the 4.3 is the best bang for your buck, but as a german I was hoping for another Panzergrenadier-division as shown in 4.2 :(.
As a leprechaun myself i can confirm I am good with cars and bins 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
gg thanks for waiting
4:30 and what do they know?!
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I would like an extra Dutch division, but this one is just too good to pass. Even my Dutch friend agrees (shocking)
why no fortress paris like in sd2 but with leclerc this time
whoa it’s the guys from modern warfare
They really should drop the "politically motivated" resolute trait on the east germans, it creates balancing and price issues and is just stupid.
NATO armies and the west Germans in particular would've been more motivated since they are fighting a defensive war for their way of life. They are also better trained, better compensated.....
Eugen things....
I agree with the 2ya resolute inf tho, that's justified.
I believe AVRE stands for "Armored Vehicle Royal Engineers"
I'm American, don't talk to me about Us lmao
Noooo my poor Kampfschwimmers…
Clearly just another westoid English nationalist....
Got my vote tho
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83' playtest 👀
2:04 i take it infantery speed is halved or even quartered😂
Dads army
Everybody will vote for this because of cool British div, which is fair, but the soviet one is lacking. There are like 2 new t 72 versions(which are just reskinned t72m) 1 supply truck and 1 recon car nobody will use. Seems like a huge waste of potential, still better than other options i guess (kind of a low bar to reach tbh)
The soviet div has a suite of new-ish infantry and a bunch of new planes in addition to the 3 new tanks. I think it's pretty good. You missed out the new strongest tank in the game haha, and the new T-72s it said would be somewhere between the M and the S
@@hippiehippiehippiehippie will they have a different models and structure tho? I mean, the blog clearly states that british inf will receive a new model, but nothing about soviets. If it's just motostrelky with GVARD title then it's no different. As for t 72 i was refering to the in game model, not characteristics.
@@Lex200680 It says that they will get the resolute trait. As for a new model, I'm not sure. I assume it will be like 27y where they do, but I can't be sure
thankfully I don't own a car
No VDV, no vote
You can't be serious
This
I'm actually afraid for the balance on this one.
4.1 consists of OP omni-divs made out of existing units. So old and boring, probably very little will vote for it.
4.2 looks a bit more interesting with little new units but it actually feels balanced.
Then comes 4.3 with tons of new units so I already predict it to win. But those feel even more OP omni-divs than the first option. How does Eugen think people will not vote for this last option?
I'm gonna be voting 4.2 for balance but I'm holding no hope for it winning.
hippie is trying to start beef with the funny accent people. thankfully i dont care because i dont live in a third world country, and will take his word for the situation without thought.
I will do my part and vote 4.3 . There is no way 4.1 wins but 4.2 still has a chance
I Hope 4.3 Wins
Everyone who not votes for this is a certified braindead person. This is soooo good after 4.1 I thought ist warnover but man if this is in the game it would be so nice to see some new stuff. But i have to say eugen really needs to add some new gamemodes and not just new units
référencement en français pour la thune
These look good… but come on, 4.1 has the Trabant and the VW hippie van! 😅
BEST Nemesis so far
so were just doing command and conquer red alert now?
also the separatist movement/Iranian embassy siege are not underground ancient english isles lore we know this stuff we just don't care.
Dad's army best army
Better motostrelki sounds nice to me
🗣️🗣️VOTE FOR THE BEEF EATERS AND SAS 😍🥰
BoJoBatallion will destroy everything, I will vote for BoJo
Um actually it's ArmbRUST not BURST
dude your talking over the runescape footage
8:30 'as you can see' :|
hippie the Americans that watch you are all nerds we know dis stuff
Nooooo. No more Brits. I cry every time very sad
Go sleep now.
Yes sir
Mate
Challengers won't really hold up against T64's and T80's, they never have. They really should be much more accurate. Irl they have the longest recorded tank v tank shot. On move bad, stationary supreme, rifled gun too, not smoothbore, come on Eugen. The Mk2 is base 65% in WG. So why is it 60% base in Warno for the exact same tank?
all of those feats you list are challenger 2s, not challenger 1 Mk 2, similar to how its leopard 1 A 2, they arent challenger 2s. Chally' 2s didnt enter service til '98.
think abt it, how would challenger 3s (a thing in game) exist in 1989 if the brits havent actually even fully adopted those yet (they are currently undergoing trials)
@@spencergalland5754 No. In WG there is the Challenger 1 Mk.1 the Challenger 1 Mk.2, the Challenger 1 Mk.3 and the Challenger 2. I am certain the Challenger 1 Mk.2 (same as WARNO) has base 65% stationary, but in WARNO the Challenger 1 Mk.2 is 60% base stationary.
Didn't even mention Challenger 2, I said "The Mk.2", referring to the Challenger 1 Mk.2 not Challenger 2. And in WG there's only a Challenger 2 base, no Challenger 2 Mk.1 Mk.2 Mk.3 etc.
I'm not terarded, I'm not expecting a Chieftain in WW2 or a Matilda in WW1, I know when tanks did and didn't exist. I'm just speaking from experience that even National Guard "weekend warrior" M1 Abrams have higher base accuracy than the British Army's Challenger 1 Mk.2's. Challenger's get smoked by T-64's, their 19 pen and same accuracy + auto-loader vs the slower than average load time thanks to British 2 piece ammunition + cohesion loss means Chally's end up with 4 RPM if they can't land their first shot. UK Suffers lol
WORST one
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