Much enjoying this, John. One hint on presentation: use a different coloured combination of chair and shirt. Using the current combination of black-on-black, you look like Darth Vader.
Maybe I am... The Dorico shirts are only available in black, and I don't think they'll buy me a new chair... I'll try using the force... although I'm probably more Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)
In the Layout, is there a project token which expands to "Concert Pitch" or "Transposed Pitch" appropriately, so I can put that token in my Master Page and have it fill itself in, depending on the Exported setting? I think not, correct?
Excellent Jon thank you. I'm really glad there are people a lot intelligent than me that develop and then explain these products.. it is awe inspiring!
I like the idea of the layout preferences and the approach this software takes. The computer can do this type of mathematical adjustments better than most humans. Finale is an absolute nuisance to fix the final layout.Just to be warned, beginner users will find the idea of the layout preferences the most confusing. I can guarantee many people will frantically manually adjust systems and staves and fight the program constantly after that. Dorico gives a lot of flexibility, you just need to know how to do it. This video was the missing piece in my understanding of this program! Every new user should watch it. Thank you so much for doing it. As a long time Finale user I am absolutely loving Dorico.
Much gratitude John for this Discover Dorico session. I always find these sessions very useful and learn something new every time... Happy Festive Season and many blessings, MaxT
Hi, not sure if you can help, but I'd love to have a piece finished nicely without a stray measure at the bottom of the score. The top system on the last page has 4 measures, the one below has 4, Then there's that stray 5th measure all alone on the bottom. Is there a way for me to have 4 bars in the 1st system, and 5 on the second, just so that it looks nice. Your help would be truly appreciated, if you have time. Thank you, Dorico master.
Layout is a complicated thing. There's lots of detail in this video for people who need it, but Dorico does a great job of automatically laying your music out too.
I have a new multi timbral synthesizer then I would like to be able to use in Dorico - unfortunately the program has not automatically detected it is there anything that I can do to help this process along I’m sure it has something to do with the file path
no idea how but I seemed to have change the font size of a few notes (they seem bold) I put in and I have no idea how to change it back. Please help! I only have the SE version so there is no engrave. I'm lost...
I’m working on my new orchestral score and added extra staff below instrument and tried to reduce size but changing my linked instrument staff size as well. How can I change the added extra staff size only?
Depending on what you need you might want to either add an ossia staff above or below as they are automatically smaller, or add a new instrument and then right-click and use staff size for that instrument.
"languishing in a layout labyrinth" 🧐 One problem I have is with creating a custom Page 1. I create a new custom master page "Title page" and then Insert a new page using the new "Title page" master page, as a new Page 1. This creates a new Page 1 with a red triangle on it. Then later on, I edit the custom master page "Title page" to fix something. But the Page 1 does not update because it has the red triangle "over ride". Then Dorico seems to force me to Remove Page Overrides which removes the custom page 1 completely, and I have to again go through the steps to Insert New Page using the new "Title Page" as Page 1. Repeat this for as many times as the Title Page needs a slight update.. for example the Title Page lists the score length in minutes, so if the score length changes a bit, then I have to remember to not only update the master-template title page but also remove/reinsert the Page 1 again, in each Full Score Layout where it appears . . The other common layout problem I have is that Dorico does not word-wrap tempo text or automatically break systems for tempo text length, so any tempo text longer than a short word has a high probability that it will run off the edge of the physical page, unless going through the layout manually to insert system breaks at measures with tempo text . Hoping this limitation is fixed in the next version. And now for the process problem related to the layout step. Write all the music you want but there aren't performers available to read it, review it, or play through it, to suggest layout corrections. If Dorico ever gets an "online community log-in" component in the app, then it would be amazing to have users register as performer or register as composer, and then allow opting-in to being found by others, for matching composers with performers for reading, reviewing, or playing opportunities. Then the Layout step could include "Request Layout review" by other registered players anywhere in the world. This is not implying a generic 'social media sharing option' (like musescore or zuckerbook) where projects are thrown out into the void, instead, more of a search-request-accept transaction, possibly paid in Dorico-coin.
I think your questions would often be best answered on the dorico.com/forum rather than the limited options we have here, but with the title page - once you had added the page at the start (which applies an override), then right-click on it (in the RH panel) and apply a master page change to choose your title page. Then remove the page override and that page will follow the template if you make changes. Yes it could be better/simpler, but it is possible now.
I didn't know this video existed. As ridiculous as this sounds, my life just got better after watching this session. Much appreciated!
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Thanks so much for another great video! I wasn't really familiar with this part in my scores so this will be a big help!
Thanks a lot John, this is great!
Very very helpful and clear explained! Thank you!!!
Much enjoying this, John. One hint on presentation: use a different coloured combination of chair and shirt. Using the current combination of black-on-black, you look like Darth Vader.
Maybe I am... The Dorico shirts are only available in black, and I don't think they'll buy me a new chair... I'll try using the force... although I'm probably more Dark Helmet (Spaceballs)
Very useful! Thank you!
This was incredibly helpful in solving the mystery of how to fix those ginormous gaps between systems. Thank you!
Glad we can help!
In the Layout, is there a project token which expands to "Concert Pitch" or "Transposed Pitch" appropriately, so I can put that token in my Master Page and have it fill itself in, depending on the Exported setting? I think not, correct?
Excellent Jon thank you. I'm really glad there are people a lot intelligent than me that develop and then explain these products.. it is awe inspiring!
A wonderfully thorough session. Thank you.
Excellent session John! I always learn something. Sometimes many things!
I like the idea of the layout preferences and the approach this software takes. The computer can do this type of mathematical adjustments better than most humans. Finale is an absolute nuisance to fix the final layout.Just to be warned, beginner users will find the idea of the layout preferences the most confusing. I can guarantee many people will frantically manually adjust systems and staves and fight the program constantly after that. Dorico gives a lot of flexibility, you just need to know how to do it.
This video was the missing piece in my understanding of this program! Every new user should watch it. Thank you so much for doing it. As a long time Finale user I am absolutely loving Dorico.
Glad you liked it and thank you for the comments.
Thank you, John, for inviting us into your "part"y at 6:45!
Much gratitude John for this Discover Dorico session. I always find these sessions very useful and learn something new every time... Happy Festive Season and many blessings, MaxT
Some great tips here which I'm going to find very useful!
Hi, not sure if you can help, but I'd love to have a piece finished nicely without a stray measure at the bottom of the score. The top system on the last page has 4 measures, the one below has 4,
Then there's that stray 5th measure all alone on the bottom. Is there a way for me to have 4 bars in the 1st system, and 5 on the second, just so that it looks nice. Your help would be truly appreciated, if you have time. Thank you, Dorico master.
You might want to use the 'move to previous system' or 'make into system' option in Engrave mode to move that last bar.
This job of layout in Dorico seems too complicated.
Layout is a complicated thing. There's lots of detail in this video for people who need it, but Dorico does a great job of automatically laying your music out too.
Thanks for the details explanation! You helped me find some issues I was struggling with
I have a new multi timbral synthesizer then I would like to be able to use in Dorico - unfortunately the program has not automatically detected it is there anything that I can do to help this process along I’m sure it has something to do with the file path
no idea how but I seemed to have change the font size of a few notes (they seem bold) I put in and I have no idea how to change it back. Please help! I only have the SE version so there is no engrave. I'm lost...
Select them and see if you changed the custom size in the Properties panel?
@@dorico thank you. I went on page 398 on the PDF manual and I now changed all the whole notes individually to scale 82 but they still look bold, odd.
I’m working on my new orchestral score and added extra staff below instrument and tried to reduce size but changing my linked instrument staff size as well. How can I change the added extra staff size only?
Depending on what you need you might want to either add an ossia staff above or below as they are automatically smaller, or add a new instrument and then right-click and use staff size for that instrument.
"languishing in a layout labyrinth" 🧐
One problem I have is with creating a custom Page 1. I create a new custom master page "Title page" and then Insert a new page using the new "Title page" master page, as a new Page 1. This creates a new Page 1 with a red triangle on it. Then later on, I edit the custom master page "Title page" to fix something. But the Page 1 does not update because it has the red triangle "over ride". Then Dorico seems to force me to Remove Page Overrides which removes the custom page 1 completely, and I have to again go through the steps to Insert New Page using the new "Title Page" as Page 1. Repeat this for as many times as the Title Page needs a slight update.. for example the Title Page lists the score length in minutes, so if the score length changes a bit, then I have to remember to not only update the master-template title page but also remove/reinsert the Page 1 again, in each Full Score Layout where it appears . .
The other common layout problem I have is that Dorico does not word-wrap tempo text or automatically break systems for tempo text length, so any tempo text longer than a short word has a high probability that it will run off the edge of the physical page, unless going through the layout manually to insert system breaks at measures with tempo text . Hoping this limitation is fixed in the next version.
And now for the process problem related to the layout step. Write all the music you want but there aren't performers available to read it, review it, or play through it, to suggest layout corrections. If Dorico ever gets an "online community log-in" component in the app, then it would be amazing to have users register as performer or register as composer, and then allow opting-in to being found by others, for matching composers with performers for reading, reviewing, or playing opportunities. Then the Layout step could include "Request Layout review" by other registered players anywhere in the world. This is not implying a generic 'social media sharing option' (like musescore or zuckerbook) where projects are thrown out into the void, instead, more of a search-request-accept transaction, possibly paid in Dorico-coin.
I think your questions would often be best answered on the dorico.com/forum rather than the limited options we have here, but with the title page - once you had added the page at the start (which applies an override), then right-click on it (in the RH panel) and apply a master page change to choose your title page. Then remove the page override and that page will follow the template if you make changes. Yes it could be better/simpler, but it is possible now.