My e0s1 jingliu can't even clear this comfortably. I'm thinking maybe I did something wrong but it's nice to see other people also facing the same problem
Idk why their jinglu is performing bad? Probably because these are not good supports for her? Surprisingly I found out pela and tinguan are good supports for jinglu, because of them I can consistently do 100k even on skill. And always have almost 100% uptime on my ult. My crit damage is tiny bit better than their tho and attack as well. Tho I’ve seen people with E0 and S0 jinglu performing better than mine (and I have her signature LC 😅)
e2 clara with jingliu lc carried my moc 12 first half cleared it within 3 cycles full auto, i hope they release a new harmony that will greatly benefit jingliu
@@DenlucIget it that u have inhuman cr/cd ratio but not all of us can attain that number. If u feel her to be so much comfortable… then, Eat 5 star and do nothing. Why I said this? Because most of us are feeling betrayed as jingliu value has dropped. Earlier she used to be MoC killer. Now she is useless everywhere. U can’t use her in apocalyptic showdown U can’t use her in moc (as we have better alternatives) And u can only use her to clear one wave of enemies in PF. With 160 speed only 2-3 waves… that’s it. She’s nowhere that adequate as she used to be.
How’s your firefly pulls? Won 50/50 for firefly and her LC, also pulled for ruan Mei’s Eidolon and LC, won the LC, lost 50/50 on ruan Mei but got her 20 pulls early after 👍
I lost 50/50 with both her and LC. I was way too lucky for so long that I've been losing 50/50s recently. It's now going back to avg. Congrats on your pulls!
Same got ruan mei early with 40 pulls then ff with one 10 pull her lc with 20 pulls but i did lost ff 50/50 trying to get her e1 but it was early with 40 pulls so i had just enough to get her e1
Thanks! I did some attempts, and got the fish earlier sometimes. If I had better crit rate for my Jingliu, it would've been more consistent, and she could deal more damage.
I think it's kind of sad that a ice weakness boss gets off-element destroyed by Acheron. 4-6+ cycles for jingliu, and 0-2 cycles for Acheron comps lol. I really don't understand why powercreep is this fast and harsh because man it's all artificially done. They slapped on HP buffs to MoC that practically double some health pools and expect legacy characters to keep up? Yes, Jingliu cIears but I'm wondering about the future when HoYo decides they'll slap on more HP to bosses AGAIN.
What's your Jingliu's stats? Specially crit rate. Mine only have 37% crit rate before buff, so it's not that good. As for gameplay, never use Jingliu's ult or Bronya's ult when Jingliu's not in a special state.
@@HyrionCh mine had 28 cr, 201 cd with 2.5k attack and 130 speed. I find it weird cause I made it up to moc 10 with her despite these mid stats but she went from doing 100k per enhanced skill to 40k. I really don't understand what she needs.
Also using S5 aeon and maxed traces. So ik it's a build problem but idk what set to go for. the ice one is inefficient so I might do 2pc pioneer and musketeer/speed set.
She is, just don't forget that this MoC is tailor made for FF, yes FF is strong af but she won't clear this fast in the future MoC, and i think he did quite slow with FF, she can clear this in 1 cycle as f2p. The true is hsr is doing speed run powercreept, give it 6/8 months and acheron/FF will feel like T1 and jingliu T2
it's just the game's way to sell new characters , we got MOC/PF and enemies that get countered by dot when Black swan was released to make dot teams feel op .. we got back to back MOC and PF that gives free debuffs when Acheron got released to make her feel op , and now we got MOC/AS with enemies that get countered by break DPS to make Boothil and Firefly feel op .. Jingliu is still great , but she ain't outperforming other DPS's in their MOC's , she also felt op when people used her in content that favored her on her release
Damn everyone in the comments seems underwhelmed and here I am confused as to how the fuck am I gonna clear MOC in the first place after being so lazy in this game and not grinding anything. I just want to start 3 starring MOC even without 0 cycles man, I don't know where to start on improving my account to that degree 😢
It's the endgame, you don't have to rush MoC or the other two modes. You'll eventually get there, but it will use up a lot--and I mean a lot--of trailblazer power to get 3 stars here. Also characters. Having the right characters makes this either a walk in a park or straight-up hell.
@@HyrionCh I do notice that. Its possible that as we get more and more characters the difficulty of MOC might also increase along with it. Its kind of making me think like my account might never catch up. 😂
4:17 yup I love it when this happens
my poor girl jingliu. i'm waiting for the moc to favor her yet again
If the only way for her to perform well is to have her go against tailor made content for her... Then is she really a good carry?
Is firefly going to be able to 0 cycle if this MOC wasn't mde for her.stfu jingliu doesn't benefit from the pig
@@Mr.glory-雪 give our mara-struck lady some justice fr
My e0s1 jingliu can't even clear this comfortably. I'm thinking maybe I did something wrong but it's nice to see other people also facing the same problem
Idk why their jinglu is performing bad? Probably because these are not good supports for her? Surprisingly I found out pela and tinguan are good supports for jinglu, because of them I can consistently do 100k even on skill. And always have almost 100% uptime on my ult. My crit damage is tiny bit better than their tho and attack as well. Tho I’ve seen people with E0 and S0 jinglu performing better than mine (and I have her signature LC 😅)
e2 clara with jingliu lc carried my moc 12 first half cleared it within 3 cycles full auto, i hope they release a new harmony that will greatly benefit jingliu
Same. Hopefully they can get a better buffer for her.
Strongest dps of history and strongest dps of today
If we’re talking about strongest DPS of history until 2.3, it’s definitely Acheron, what JL is even doing here
@@kaikaikai4477acheron is fairly new, so no
@@Inktrailler but she is already part of history, she was released in 2.1 and we’re in 2.3. Anyway…
@@kaikaikai4477 ikr
@@kaikaikai4477you are calling march- april history….
Both my mains, Jinglui and Firefly, in one video? Nice ❤
Interesting to see how much jingliu is powercreept now
E1 S1 jingliu with E0 S0 ruan mei can do it in 0 cycles
@@Denluc Eidolons and sig LCs are not relevant to 90% of people's comparisons unless specifically brought up lol
@@xo8677 4 cost are so much, just incredible investments, and it is generally impossible to knock out a signature cone and no one does it
@@DenlucIget it that u have inhuman cr/cd ratio but not all of us can attain that number.
If u feel her to be so much comfortable… then,
Eat 5 star and do nothing.
Why I said this? Because most of us are feeling betrayed as jingliu value has dropped. Earlier she used to be MoC killer. Now she is useless everywhere.
U can’t use her in apocalyptic showdown
U can’t use her in moc (as we have better alternatives)
And u can only use her to clear one wave of enemies in PF. With 160 speed only 2-3 waves… that’s it.
She’s nowhere that adequate as she used to be.
My jingliu E0 S1 with set quantum feels like it's hitting cotton!!
Cleared it within 3 cycles with clara e0s1, robin, luocha and tingyun, feels sad seen jingliu doing it only in 4 cycles
That's a strong Clara. I should try that team.
unfortunately I lost the 50/50 fireflay . it looks like i can't get her in this patch
oof sorry to hear that. But I do hope you get lucky the next time you pull.
That sucks maybe you can still get lucky.
How’s your firefly pulls? Won 50/50 for firefly and her LC, also pulled for ruan Mei’s Eidolon and LC, won the LC, lost 50/50 on ruan Mei but got her 20 pulls early after 👍
I somehow was able to get her on my first 10 pulls I got really lucky
I lost 50/50 with both her and LC. I was way too lucky for so long that I've been losing 50/50s recently. It's now going back to avg. Congrats on your pulls!
I lost to get Fireflys E1😭
Same got ruan mei early with 40 pulls then ff with one 10 pull her lc with 20 pulls but i did lost ff 50/50 trying to get her e1 but it was early with 40 pulls so i had just enough to get her e1
got himeko at 76 and firefly at EIGHTY FIVE 😭
amazing clear, is it normal for jingliu blast took like most of her up time to kill the fish?
Thanks! I did some attempts, and got the fish earlier sometimes. If I had better crit rate for my Jingliu, it would've been more consistent, and she could deal more damage.
woah
I think it's kind of sad that a ice weakness boss gets off-element destroyed by Acheron. 4-6+ cycles for jingliu, and 0-2 cycles for Acheron comps lol. I really don't understand why powercreep is this fast and harsh because man it's all artificially done. They slapped on HP buffs to MoC that practically double some health pools and expect legacy characters to keep up? Yes, Jingliu cIears but I'm wondering about the future when HoYo decides they'll slap on more HP to bosses AGAIN.
why doesn't my jingliu, jingliu like this 😑any tips? I'm running Bronya and Ruan mei with her
What's your Jingliu's stats? Specially crit rate. Mine only have 37% crit rate before buff, so it's not that good.
As for gameplay, never use Jingliu's ult or Bronya's ult when Jingliu's not in a special state.
@@HyrionCh mine had 28 cr, 201 cd with 2.5k attack and 130 speed. I find it weird cause I made it up to moc 10 with her despite these mid stats but she went from doing 100k per enhanced skill to 40k. I really don't understand what she needs.
Also using S5 aeon and maxed traces. So ik it's a build problem but idk what set to go for. the ice one is inefficient so I might do 2pc pioneer and musketeer/speed set.
T 0,5 character btw 😶
wym? she fits the t0.5 tier pretty well imo. might be even t1
@@RadiergummiXXL t1 - uh, maybe, but 0,5 is too high for her imo
She is, just don't forget that this MoC is tailor made for FF, yes FF is strong af but she won't clear this fast in the future MoC, and i think he did quite slow with FF, she can clear this in 1 cycle as f2p.
The true is hsr is doing speed run powercreept, give it 6/8 months and acheron/FF will feel like T1 and jingliu T2
Nah i agree with you
Boothill, DanIL T0,5
JL T1
At least for this MOC
it's just the game's way to sell new characters , we got MOC/PF and enemies that get countered by dot when Black swan was released to make dot teams feel op .. we got back to back MOC and PF that gives free debuffs when Acheron got released to make her feel op , and now we got MOC/AS with enemies that get countered by break DPS to make Boothil and Firefly feel op .. Jingliu is still great , but she ain't outperforming other DPS's in their MOC's , she also felt op when people used her in content that favored her on her release
Damn everyone in the comments seems underwhelmed and here I am confused as to how the fuck am I gonna clear MOC in the first place after being so lazy in this game and not grinding anything. I just want to start 3 starring MOC even without 0 cycles man, I don't know where to start on improving my account to that degree 😢
It's the endgame, you don't have to rush MoC or the other two modes. You'll eventually get there, but it will use up a lot--and I mean a lot--of trailblazer power to get 3 stars here. Also characters. Having the right characters makes this either a walk in a park or straight-up hell.
@@HyrionCh I do notice that. Its possible that as we get more and more characters the difficulty of MOC might also increase along with it. Its kind of making me think like my account might never catch up. 😂
Brodie what is up with these comments lmao
really jingliu tier 0.5 ???
Bro are you F2P
I'm not.
Jingliu fell off hard 💀
MOC buff doesn't buff her that's all plus she couldn't kill the ig she had to break it and it doesn't have ice
Nah im still getting all stars while using her therefore she didn't.
@@jackjohnson8305 yep yep.
@@jackjohnson8305 I mean, JY can get all starts. Even Arlan, it doesn’t mean they didn’t fall off
@@kaikaikai4477 If i can clear the hardest content in the game and get all the rewards then they didn't fall off, they got powercrept.