Here are the books discussed and the order in which they were listed: 1) Egyptian Secrets: or White and Black Art for Man and Beast, by Albertus Magnus 2) The Long-Lost Friend, by Johann George Hohman 3) The Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses, (translated) by Johann Scheible 4) The Complete Grimms Fairytales, by Jacob & Wilhelm Grimm 5) Sagen und Legenden aus Westfalen, by Monika Detering 6) De Gerichtsvollzieher un de Düwel, by Friedrich Ernst Hunsche 7) Das Zweite Gesicht in Westfalen, by Peter Wittkampf Spökenkieker 8) Magische Heilkunst: Das uralte Wissen der Hexen und Heiler für Menschen von heute. Ein Handbuch, by Claire 9) The Nordic Animist Year, by Rune Hjarnø Rasmussen 10) Götten Holle, by Gunivortus Goos 11) Der Indiculus Superstitionum Et Paganiarum, by(?) Georg Heinrich Pertz . Interesting video, thank you!
12:55 !! this. This is something I've noticed when researching German folklore and mythology, not only in old books, but also on the internet. I often had to pause reading or watching a specific video because they felt super nationalistic, eugenic, antisemitic etc. It can sometimes be draining to read some of that stuff. Thank you for reminding people to always critically read these texts. I really enjoyed this video so far! Thank you for uploading :)
The Nordic Animism calendar book is absolutely fantastic. Thank you for the resource recommendations! I will be keeping my eye out for more. I would also recommend works by Claude Lecouteux who has written a *lot* on various subjects relevant here with good English translations.
I really enjoyed this and appreciate all your hard work and recommendations. I would highly recommend getting the volumes by Jakob Grimm of the Deutsche Mythologie/Germanic Mythology to go along with the Household Tales. Very helpful. It also helps with critical thinking. I can't tell you how many times I've read parts from the various volumes lifted from it word for word in other books that are about mythology, folk beliefs, fairy tales, Paganism, New Age, or Witchcraft. Always with no credit. It also helps when people are trying to back up certain Gods/Goddesses that might be more modern like the debate on Holda. It's going to point you to being more of a smattering of older Goddesses and more of a Medieval thing like what you listed below in your comments. I personally dont get into the whole Gods/Goddess thing but some do so it could be helpful. I haven't gotten the book you mention about Frau Holda because its a book mentioned by a certain Heathen community and I think its more central to their particular belief system. They are a newer branch in the States. I'm aware of them and not a part of them. I haven't heard anything bad about them and i've interacted with them online mostly just to understand them. Plus, as a critical thinker I'm not always fond of the new trend of trying to make a point with various sources from a variety of different cultures as it may or may not always really and truly be something that all of these different cultures would necessarily appreciate themselves. I still see the value in it up to a point. It's all about perspective and intent I suppose. One is supposed to be able to back up an idea. I am an American and there does seem to be this American tendency that because we are the melting pot its almost taken for granted most of us are from multiple cultures and how to deal with that. A lot of people might say that about modern society as a whole as well. Just it is critical for Americans to really be careful due to things like Colonization from European Countries and their politics and agendas of the past, Manifest Destiny ideas , and what was done in regards to the Native Americans and with Slavery and Christian Missions. As someone with a scholarly background it may be valid but its only valid up to a point. There isn't always an agreement amongst the cultures that have had their customs, stories, myths, etc from used as an example that the example given is really something that culture itself would agree on either in part or in whole. www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/11496906/a-brief-introduction-to-the-deities-of-urglaawe-urglaawecom This is the website of one of the groups I'm taking about. It seems to come from the States.
Personally I have a lot of issues with the Urglaawe movement that you mentioned since it slams together many regional folk beliefs of Germany and pretends like they are all the same thing
Jå ik küer plat! Meystyds bruk ik "Heilpflanzen und ihre Kräfte" van William A. R. Thomson, aver dat is al heyl old (out de 70ger jåre, glööv ik) un word wårskynlyk ouk nich mear drukt. Momenteel leas ik "The Green Witch's Guide to Herbal Magick" van Annabel Margaret un dat is good vöär korte (wytenskaplike as ouk magiske) information öäver krüüder
Can you find a reliable place to get the Albertus Magnus book in English? I have come across many fake/fabricated copies and would love to read it. I used to be fluent in German but I do not trust myself after being out of practice for quite a few years to read such book in native language
Depends, if it's the older manuscripts you're unable to find you could specifically look for them in a pdf format (since many of them are super old they're in public domain) Idk about the more modern books though since they immediately pop up for me if I search for them
Im a little overwhelmed because my ancestors starting with my grandparents come all from different places in germany(as far as i could find out so far) and i dont identify very much with the place i‘m in/from(bavaria😩 i‘d rather be naked than in a dirndl/lederhosen) but i guess i‘ll just do my research and see what i‘m drawn to
I am curious about your thought on Frau Holle. I have seen in a much older tiktok you posted that Frau Holle was most likely derived from Frija, the norse cognate to Frigg, I believe you stated. However, I have heard that the man that wrote the book Mother Holle you mentioned in this video as well as in the pagan community in general, they have tried to establish Frau Holle as her own supreme deity, a remnant of not Frija, but Holda? Do you still think she is from Frija, or is she this other deity Holda?
There are actually close to zero accounts of a pre-christian deity named Holda. We mostly start getting variations of that name in the medieval and early modern period through christan writing. In my opinion Frau Holle is a folkloric almalgamation of one or multiple pre-christian deities (likely Frija but possibly also deities like Nerthus and more regional deities) aswell as the Zeitgeist of the time in which many of her fairytales originate in. The name Holda, if pagan in origin, could've been a regional deity name or an epithet of more well known deities like Frija.
Oh ja Gunivortus Goos ist extrem UPG lastig. Hab sein Buch über „Germanische Magie“…. Es ist 99% Runen zusammengemischt mit zeremonieller Magie und anderen modernen Praktiken… und super viel UPG zu den Runen wie Assoziationen mit anderen Praktiken die wie ich finde keinen Sinn ergeben. Welche Rune im Zusammenhang mit welchem Sternzeichen zum Beispiel. Das hat null miteinander zu tun 🤣 und 100% UPG aber das sagt er nirgendwo im Buch
Here are the books discussed and the order in which they were listed:
1) Egyptian Secrets: or White and Black Art for Man and Beast, by Albertus Magnus
2) The Long-Lost Friend, by Johann George Hohman
3) The Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses, (translated) by Johann Scheible
4) The Complete Grimms Fairytales, by Jacob & Wilhelm Grimm
5) Sagen und Legenden aus Westfalen, by Monika Detering
6) De Gerichtsvollzieher un de Düwel, by Friedrich Ernst Hunsche
7) Das Zweite Gesicht in Westfalen, by Peter Wittkampf Spökenkieker
8) Magische Heilkunst: Das uralte Wissen der Hexen und Heiler für Menschen von heute. Ein Handbuch, by Claire
9) The Nordic Animist Year, by Rune Hjarnø Rasmussen
10) Götten Holle, by Gunivortus Goos
11) Der Indiculus Superstitionum Et Paganiarum, by(?) Georg Heinrich Pertz
.
Interesting video, thank you!
12:55 !! this. This is something I've noticed when researching German folklore and mythology, not only in old books, but also on the internet. I often had to pause reading or watching a specific video because they felt super nationalistic, eugenic, antisemitic etc. It can sometimes be draining to read some of that stuff. Thank you for reminding people to always critically read these texts.
I really enjoyed this video so far! Thank you for uploading :)
thank you!!
The Nordic Animism calendar book is absolutely fantastic. Thank you for the resource recommendations! I will be keeping my eye out for more.
I would also recommend works by Claude Lecouteux who has written a *lot* on various subjects relevant here with good English translations.
You are amazing! Danke🎉
Most of my heritage is Prussian and Eastern Germany and I'm having trouble trying to find folk magic resources from that area, do you have any ideas?
I really enjoyed this and appreciate all your hard work and recommendations. I would highly recommend getting the volumes by Jakob Grimm of the Deutsche Mythologie/Germanic Mythology to go along with the Household Tales. Very helpful. It also helps with critical thinking. I can't tell you how many times I've read parts from the various volumes lifted from it word for word in other books that are about mythology, folk beliefs, fairy tales, Paganism, New Age, or Witchcraft. Always with no credit. It also helps when people are trying to back up certain Gods/Goddesses that might be more modern like the debate on Holda. It's going to point you to being more of a smattering of older Goddesses and more of a Medieval thing like what you listed below in your comments. I personally dont get into the whole Gods/Goddess thing but some do so it could be helpful. I haven't gotten the book you mention about Frau Holda because its a book mentioned by a certain Heathen community and I think its more central to their particular belief system. They are a newer branch in the States. I'm aware of them and not a part of them. I haven't heard anything bad about them and i've interacted with them online mostly just to understand them. Plus, as a critical thinker I'm not always fond of the new trend of trying to make a point with various sources from a variety of different cultures as it may or may not always really and truly be something that all of these different cultures would necessarily appreciate themselves. I still see the value in it up to a point. It's all about perspective and intent I suppose. One is supposed to be able to back up an idea. I am an American and there does seem to be this American tendency that because we are the melting pot its almost taken for granted most of us are from multiple cultures and how to deal with that. A lot of people might say that about modern society as a whole as well. Just it is critical for Americans to really be careful due to things like Colonization from European Countries and their politics and agendas of the past, Manifest Destiny ideas , and what was done in regards to the Native Americans and with Slavery and Christian Missions. As someone with a scholarly background it may be valid but its only valid up to a point. There isn't always an agreement amongst the cultures that have had their customs, stories, myths, etc from used as an example that the example given is really something that culture itself would agree on either in part or in whole. www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/11496906/a-brief-introduction-to-the-deities-of-urglaawe-urglaawecom This is the website of one of the groups I'm taking about. It seems to come from the States.
Personally I have a lot of issues with the Urglaawe movement that you mentioned since it slams together many regional folk beliefs of Germany and pretends like they are all the same thing
Hey Nik, kannst du ein Buch empfehlen für Kräuterkorrespondenzen?
Ik heff noch en Fraag: Snackst du platt?
Völ Grööt ut de Heid! ❤
Jå ik küer plat!
Meystyds bruk ik "Heilpflanzen und ihre Kräfte" van William A. R. Thomson, aver dat is al heyl old (out de 70ger jåre, glööv ik) un word wårskynlyk ouk nich mear drukt. Momenteel leas ik "The Green Witch's Guide to Herbal Magick" van Annabel Margaret un dat is good vöär korte (wytenskaplike as ouk magiske) information öäver krüüder
Ahh thank you for this 💓
Can you find a reliable place to get the Albertus Magnus book in English? I have come across many fake/fabricated copies and would love to read it. I used to be fluent in German but I do not trust myself after being out of practice for quite a few years to read such book in native language
I seem to not have be able to find some of the books you’ve mentioned. Any recommendations?
Depends, if it's the older manuscripts you're unable to find you could specifically look for them in a pdf format (since many of them are super old they're in public domain)
Idk about the more modern books though since they immediately pop up for me if I search for them
@@De_Spoekenkyker I’ll give it a shot, thank you so much!
Im a little overwhelmed because my ancestors starting with my grandparents come all from different places in germany(as far as i could find out so far) and i dont identify very much with the place i‘m in/from(bavaria😩 i‘d rather be naked than in a dirndl/lederhosen) but i guess i‘ll just do my research and see what i‘m drawn to
Honestly that's the best you could do in your situation!
I am curious about your thought on Frau Holle. I have seen in a much older tiktok you posted that Frau Holle was most likely derived from Frija, the norse cognate to Frigg, I believe you stated. However, I have heard that the man that wrote the book Mother Holle you mentioned in this video as well as in the pagan community in general, they have tried to establish Frau Holle as her own supreme deity, a remnant of not Frija, but Holda? Do you still think she is from Frija, or is she this other deity Holda?
There are actually close to zero accounts of a pre-christian deity named Holda. We mostly start getting variations of that name in the medieval and early modern period through christan writing. In my opinion Frau Holle is a folkloric almalgamation of one or multiple pre-christian deities (likely Frija but possibly also deities like Nerthus and more regional deities) aswell as the Zeitgeist of the time in which many of her fairytales originate in. The name Holda, if pagan in origin, could've been a regional deity name or an epithet of more well known deities like Frija.
@@De_Spoekenkyker Thank you for your response and clearing up that misinformation.
Oh ja Gunivortus Goos ist extrem UPG lastig. Hab sein Buch über „Germanische Magie“…. Es ist 99% Runen zusammengemischt mit zeremonieller Magie und anderen modernen Praktiken… und super viel UPG zu den Runen wie Assoziationen mit anderen Praktiken die wie ich finde keinen Sinn ergeben. Welche Rune im Zusammenhang mit welchem Sternzeichen zum Beispiel. Das hat null miteinander zu tun 🤣 und 100% UPG aber das sagt er nirgendwo im Buch
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