Have Russians 'surrendered to the fate' of Putinism? | Conflict Zone

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  • @HybridMarco
    @HybridMarco ปีที่แล้ว +112

    What an incredible interview. She is so well spoken and knowledgeable on the topic. Well done

    • @tdtm82
      @tdtm82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course she's well-spoken she's a professor in NYC.

    • @suv2w
      @suv2w ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tdtm82right lol? I know it was intended as praise, but it betrays some pathetically low initial expectations of an established expert if merely speaking well merits mentioning.

  • @GeAd-e1g
    @GeAd-e1g ปีที่แล้ว +235

    What better endorsement for the western world than the grandchild of Khrushchev deciding that she would rather live and teach in US than Russia? Great interview!

    • @dna9838
      @dna9838 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great comment, and tbf there are plenty of other endorsements in plain sight... Russians appear to have their heads in the sand though.. Doubling down on their tendency towards masochistic resignation.

    • @rrai1999
      @rrai1999 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@ivanivanov-qi1el Maybe don't create gigantic empires that cover half the planet and then think your 'glorious empire' that was too broke to continue existing can just "make donations" like that

    • @edmartin6245
      @edmartin6245 ปีที่แล้ว

      stalin's daughter went back after 2 divorces! She said usa not so great!!!

    • @thomasbaader6629
      @thomasbaader6629 ปีที่แล้ว +60

      @@ivanivanov-qi1el It is totally irrelevant who donated Crimea to Ukraine, because Russia recognized Crimea as part of Ukraine in 1991 and 1994.
      BTW, in the 1991 referendum a majority of the people of Crimea voted for Ukraine. Russia recognized that and accepted Ukraine's final borders.

    • @unoimright5153
      @unoimright5153 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      If you look how many people try to get American citizenship, it’s HUGE! The Ussr has no one applying for citizenship! In fact , 3 million Russian’s have moved to the US in last 30 year’s! That’s just the legal ones ...

  • @Axeiaa
    @Axeiaa ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Props to Nina Khruscheva. She doesn't get hung up about one point and just moves on to the next when a question is asked which is very rare to see. She doesn't try to go to in depth if she's out of her own depth either. She also seems well informed on all fronts having taken in information from multiple sources on those specific fronts.
    That title of professor is definitely one that was earned rather than just given.

    • @jammbamm4024
      @jammbamm4024 ปีที่แล้ว

      never asweared queastion

  • @janeck.8695
    @janeck.8695 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Love Conflict Zone - they have the best interviews. Thank you for posting.

  • @zolandia5262
    @zolandia5262 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    Great interview. She's right about so many nknown unknowns. When you start a war this big you are starting up an out of control rollercoaster

    • @RavingFan
      @RavingFan ปีที่แล้ว

      putin's handpicked cabinet supply him w/ 'correct' answers eg. russian 'liberators' be welcomed by ukr women throwing flowers at them, ukr army fall in days / wks. pointless to contradict him (out of job), so create 'acceptable' intel rpts n pocket money funding make believe informants (win-win).

    • @robertpatrick3350
      @robertpatrick3350 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      😂 what does that 80% consist of massed trebuchet?

    • @16252
      @16252 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @Save the OLIGARCHS Um, no.

    • @badmonkey2222
      @badmonkey2222 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Waaaaaah13 😂 so what, was that parade the other day with the one WW2 tank the other 80%?! 🤡

    • @jessenickerson2333
      @jessenickerson2333 ปีที่แล้ว

      The American military industrial complex wants this war to continue...we are at the edge of the abyss and no one cares whatsoever. Ukraine and Zelensky are simply pawns in a much bigger game. The actions being implemented now are from plans made right after the Soviet Union fell.
      Why does NATO still exist? NATO was created to counter soviet Russia and the Warsaw Pact...why did NATO not disband?
      Because the US wanted to destroy Russia. There was no genuine plan to democratize it. There was no plan to bring Russia into the fold of wealthy or dominant nations/democracies. No, the US ALWAYS wanted Russia as an enemy, even if they wanted peace.
      NATO continued to expand and violate every agreement posited / codified after the Soviet Union fell. NATO continued to push up and inch towards Russia's doorstep.
      The US tried to intervene in a 2014 coup during the Color Revolutions and instill a "democracy" there; a puppet of the US right on Russia's doorstep.
      I am NOT a Putin sympathizer. These are FACTS. And now the world will eventually pay for these bold and careless mistakes. Mark my words. We are THIS close to nuclear confrontation. Meanwhile, while we expend treasure on Ukraine to fight a pointless war, China is now coming up very quickly to surpass us in the global and arms markets. The stage is being set for another world war, and we are plunging FULL STEAM ahead.

  • @tenminutetravelbreak
    @tenminutetravelbreak ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Lived there for 11 years, and I will say this - the question for them is staying or leaving. It isn't about changing Russia, self determination, Putin or any of that. The whole 'Russia is what it is' complex is just too ingrained from a very young age.

    • @NZobservatory
      @NZobservatory ปีที่แล้ว

      Russians have always had an ingrained victim complex. I guess it’s the result of always being serfs. Little wonder Russians are so paranoid and turn to alcohol.

    • @dylanvogler2165
      @dylanvogler2165 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      ​@Save the OLIGARCHS that is not really true. There are countries were things can be changed and were you aren't used like a serf.

    • @RubNebur
      @RubNebur ปีที่แล้ว

      Currently RUSSIA has that North Korean vibe.
      Resentful ignorant mentality.

    • @alcoholfree6381
      @alcoholfree6381 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I’ve listened to way too many interviews of Russians and they seem so apathetic, apolitical, and atheistic. They are fearful of what may happen if they say anything negative about Putin, his Orcs, or his War

    • @markuss4133
      @markuss4133 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@Save the OLIGARCHS no, in a democracy you can vote someone out of office, take to street and demonstrate and speak freely.

  • @abynor8687
    @abynor8687 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Give Ukraine F-16s, let it finally win.

  • @torsmork
    @torsmork ปีที่แล้ว +75

    The silent russians will have to pay for their silence.

    • @СергейМонин-д7с
      @СергейМонин-д7с ปีที่แล้ว +5

      In roubles? 🤔

    • @elbibwen3019
      @elbibwen3019 ปีที่แล้ว

      *and you will pay for NATO HYENAS*

    • @hansfaschototer
      @hansfaschototer ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@elbibwen3019 RuSSṉazi 🤮

    • @DSAK55
      @DSAK55 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      but not as much as the non-silent russians

    • @tscottme
      @tscottme ปีที่แล้ว

      There is no amount of suffering the Russians WON"T tolerate. Their national identity is that they are purified by suffering and they can suffer more than any other people on earth. They can tolerate unlimited amounts of corruption and even corruption of the Russian Orthodox Church. Russian identity expects all of that. They are never going to decide they have reached a level of poverty or tyranny that causes them to overthrow the tyrant of the moment. I support Ukraine, but I don't pretend Russian nature is exactly like Germany, England, or US. It is not. The Russian people SHOULD revolt and save Russia from their current regime, but they won't.

  • @JohnnyinMN
    @JohnnyinMN ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Great interview and interviewer. Nice discussion without interruptions. 🙂

  • @avlasting3507
    @avlasting3507 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Thank you for this interview! What an insightful articulate, esteemed commentator Khrushcheva is.

  • @Dovid2000
    @Dovid2000 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Nina Khrushcheva is, without question, a woman of high esteem. She loves her native country, as every person should, but she is also rational and reasonable. Wishing her and her people all the best, and hoping for peace in Ukraine. Greetings from Israel.

  • @stewlew8449
    @stewlew8449 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Finding it hard to be empathetic to the struggling Russians

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

    • @wanderer2246
      @wanderer2246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@javierfrancia1938 bots from russia are trying to link their opositioners to Ukraine? You are not trying hard, bot, your dogs is your problem After defeating you, we will fight with other russins, dont expect that you will be able to change a skin and escape retribution

    • @unoimright5153
      @unoimright5153 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@javierfrancia1938 🌻🌻🌻
      🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@unoimright5153 indeed, JUA, JUA, JUA, JUA, JUA, JUA

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elwray3506 reality bites, let me give you something for that pink skin rash

  • @joeblack4436
    @joeblack4436 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The progression will be: Denial, anger (where Russia is now), bargaining, depression and then acceptance that Ukraine does not belong to Moscow.
    All this is academic. Russia's greatest sin is about making this about Russia. Practically talking about the war as if Ukraine does not exist - I'm tired about hearing how Russia feels. How they're reacting. How they will react to this and that. Russia needs to be beaten back so that Ukraine can heal. What happens with Russia is up to them. They can be as crazy as they want to be. In Russia.

    • @davidwright5094
      @davidwright5094 ปีที่แล้ว

      Russians' most disastrous mistake is to allow their country to be taken over by a cabal of ex-Soviet KGB, psychologically incapable of anything but bouncing endlessly back and forth between Denial and Anger.

    • @Laughing_Lord
      @Laughing_Lord ปีที่แล้ว

      You are mistaken) Ukraine will be destroyed. It is only a question of price. It may happen that the price will be the destruction of Russia and the planet as a whole. But this matter has been decided.

    • @perkunast9680
      @perkunast9680 ปีที่แล้ว

      In their mind there is no war in Ukraine, since Ukraine in not a county.

    • @joeblack4436
      @joeblack4436 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@perkunast9680 As said. I don't care. They can be as crazy as they want to be. In Russia. Not in entire other sovereign countries.

    • @jacquesmalanjorden9464
      @jacquesmalanjorden9464 ปีที่แล้ว

      They just tried to protect the people in the East which were in a civil war with the Kiev regime since 2014.

  • @unoimright5153
    @unoimright5153 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Lenin , Stalin, Putin... the USSR likes the cruel dictator type .... centuries of serfdom

    • @ramdev9578
      @ramdev9578 ปีที่แล้ว

      Better to have an escapee from the asylum like Joe Biden 😂

    • @michaelsay7309
      @michaelsay7309 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ramdev9578 agreed

    • @RavingFan
      @RavingFan ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, putin is the new peter the great (in his eyes).

    • @jacquesmalanjorden9464
      @jacquesmalanjorden9464 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to the US media.

    • @jamesjackovich5886
      @jamesjackovich5886 ปีที่แล้ว

      When the Soviet Union went bankrupt the wealth of Russia should have been inherited by the soldiers and people that fought for the country not handfools of oligarchs living in other countries

  • @GIedits-vf7re
    @GIedits-vf7re ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Based on this interview, western partners should increase support to ukraine asap

    • @hamish1309
      @hamish1309 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a purpose-full drip feed to prolong the war, they know what they are doing.

  • @researcher707
    @researcher707 ปีที่แล้ว +130

    I have relatives suffering enormous pain in Ukraine as I write this. My hope is that some of them will live long enough to witness Putin facing a firing machine gun one day that can not come soon enough.😠💔

    • @GaryGraham-sx4pm
      @GaryGraham-sx4pm ปีที่แล้ว +10

      .. dangling upside down might be nice

    • @cookiecola5852
      @cookiecola5852 ปีที่แล้ว

      What i heard is Putins great fear above all is that a population mob will lynch him like what happend to Mussolini
      Would been a long line❤

    • @wmjohns881
      @wmjohns881 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I stand with Ukraine 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦

    • @lovyrituraj
      @lovyrituraj ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Not going to happen keep dreaming

    • @nickowchar2001
      @nickowchar2001 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@lovyriturajanything’s possible

  • @MachielGroeneveld
    @MachielGroeneveld ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Few people care about what Russians do in Russia. The “anti Russian sentiment” is simply against Putins Russia meddling outside its borders. Equating this Russian foreign policy with their identity is a hallucinatic Russian idea.

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 ปีที่แล้ว

      NOPE . its against RUSSIA and the RUSSIANS and their ''dreams'' founded ON NOTHING ! or should i say ...founded on LAZZYNESS at their workplaces and agressive diplomacy on the international scene
      They are basically ROBBING US

    • @iiitiberiusiii3441
      @iiitiberiusiii3441 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      what you are saying is a hallucinatic idea. Russia's foreign policy and war is the extension of what russians always wanted from their czar.

    • @liberty_and_justice67
      @liberty_and_justice67 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Agree! Really an example of infantilism for an entire nation. Russia is largely defined by chronic and crippling inferiority complex that would be comical but not for the resulting suffering.

    • @mohammedmustapha-e2w
      @mohammedmustapha-e2w ปีที่แล้ว

      Enjoy Cheap American GAS. Freedom Gas bebe - freedom Gas- Future of German economy is bright.

    • @davidwright5094
      @davidwright5094 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@iiitiberiusiii3441 I think MKG is saying that the Russian people have projected for themselves a hallucinatory image of some imagined generic hostility toward Russians by people outside Russia. (A hallucination contrasted against the reality that people outside Russia in fact object *only to the continuing Russian behaviour* of sending Russian troops and spies on missions into the territory of Ukrainian to attempt to sabotage Ukraine's democratic development trajectory.)

  • @jim2376
    @jim2376 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    During certain Romanov times, up to 93% of the Russian population were serfs. Serfs were essentially slaves who could be bought, sold, and traded by the Russian nobility. Russia has never truly known democracy. The serf mentality still exists -- "servility to those above, tyranny to those below." Id., page 48.

    • @minoguirguis7932
      @minoguirguis7932 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right-on

    • @kashmirha
      @kashmirha ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Exactly. Very good point. The other process is called embourgeoisement (loosely: "to became citisens", no wonder bourgeois was a cuss word for Marxism-Leninism.

    • @Curt_Johnston
      @Curt_Johnston ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Serfs were tied to their land, right? So a serf couldn’t be sold, but if the land was sold, the serf family would come with it.. am I wrong?

    • @neidringhaus1915
      @neidringhaus1915 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Curt_Johnston that's how I've understood it

    • @wokeaf1337
      @wokeaf1337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Curt_Johnston Yes, serfs are not the same as slaves. One could not force a serf to move from the land he was born. I mean on paper but how many knew their rights back then is another question.

  • @GordBrown-ui3hu
    @GordBrown-ui3hu ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Excellent journalism!

    • @Dylandog24
      @Dylandog24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the interviewer had staying power and stuck to her last, continuing to ask pertinent questions. DW chooses the right people for the job.

  • @jm15xy
    @jm15xy ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I thought _that_ had happened years ago. Cultivating resignation (resignation to the regime), depoliticization, and passive obedience among the population (and among any potential opposition that actually stays inside the territory) is typical of authoritarian regimes. At some point people just accept the reality that they are powerless to change.

    • @davidwright5094
      @davidwright5094 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @Save the OLIGARCHS Are you a human, or a bot containing very few lines of sourcecode?

    • @jessenickerson2333
      @jessenickerson2333 ปีที่แล้ว

      So correct Oligarch!!! The western world banished Putin.. the US isn't a democracy, it's an authoritarian hegemon pathetically using the guise of freedom.

    • @mebsrea
      @mebsrea ปีที่แล้ว

      @Save the OLIGARCHS Oh, there are absolutely people in the US who want this. Quite a few are supporters of Putin’s favorite orange-hued US President, whom I suspect also pays your bills.

    • @georgecurington8156
      @georgecurington8156 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@Save the OLIGARCHS are you a complete nutcase?

    • @robinkelly1770
      @robinkelly1770 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Save the OLIGARCHS nothing to argue. You have made no points, put up zero arguments and given no examples. You are like a magat who has dirtied his diaper and is now smiling proudly as if they've written a great thesis.

  • @olafsigursons
    @olafsigursons ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That lone T-34 sure scream might!

  • @theshowmanuk
    @theshowmanuk ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Excellent interview. Fascinating insight from Professor Nina Khrushcheva.

    • @richardbayer5702
      @richardbayer5702 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She is an insightful academic. Fantastic interview from all sides.

  • @culpablecruz
    @culpablecruz ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Excellent interview

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

  • @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
    @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nina has great insight into the old USSR and into Putins crazy personality and the Kremlins workings.

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 ปีที่แล้ว

      SHE'S a crook that never stepped in a FACTORY , russian or western one !
      Therefore i can EASILY say she's a LUNATIC
      i CAN BET MY money for a week she'll try to convince me that the russians are working HARD :D

    • @Dylandog24
      @Dylandog24 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Maybe she does, but I do not find her answers sufficiently crisp and precise.

    • @michaelkrzak5414
      @michaelkrzak5414 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Dylandog24neither do I. I have a feeling that she was not saying everything she actually thinks

    • @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669
      @aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Dylandog24 Maybe you know better how Putin and his regime will end , and the future of Russia will be , Please Enlighten me.

    • @nicolasolton
      @nicolasolton ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@Aurelio-Rey milaor cabal it will end in fire and blood..

  • @therealkevan8158
    @therealkevan8158 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I really like Nina Khrushcheva. I wish she was on her own show.

    • @MrJCerqueira
      @MrJCerqueira ปีที่แล้ว +2

      agreed. but I assume being a professor at a university she doesn't have enough time unless she was gracious enough to just upload her lectures

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

    • @MrJCerqueira
      @MrJCerqueira ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Arlan Filank ok. then we can talk about building roller coasters or seismic activity in sea beds, since you're just picking random topics to talk about

    • @UnitraOne_
      @UnitraOne_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@javierfrancia1938 what "tribe" are you?

    • @First-Last_name
      @First-Last_name ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I'm not a fan, she's adherent to the russkiye mir and the idea their culture dominates others. It's very colonial of her to think moldolvans want to be part of the russian world. Especially since those who aren't russkiye in the russkiye mir are second class citizens.

  • @jimcooper1236
    @jimcooper1236 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A great interview and an incredibly insightful and pragmatic lady, family connection adds another dimension ...however the merit is all hers . more Nina!

  • @MrKockabilly
    @MrKockabilly ปีที่แล้ว +32

    My takeaway on this interview: Putinism is just one face of authoritarianism/dictatorship. Suppression of press freedom and civil liberties may be perceived as a sign of strength. But in reality it is a sign of weakness. Strong governments would never be scared of press freedom and civil liberties. Strong government relies on strong institutional stability rather than on one or a few personalities. Strong governments are strong enough to allow transfer of leadership and would not allow a person to serve more than 8 or 10 years in power to prevent incubating a cultist personality. Let's take a look at the "Russia and friends" camp:
    Putin - 23 years in power
    Lukashenko - 29 years
    Kim Jong-un - 11 years (but his dynasty has ruled for 75 years)
    Assad - 23 years
    ...and counting with no certain end in sight.
    In those years, at least four American presidents have already held office.

    • @bgdabg6769
      @bgdabg6769 ปีที่แล้ว

      Biden, Trumph...they are presidents? I always seen them as a puppets of corporative interests. Never like smart, normal people. Politicians voted by nation. People who work in interests of their own people...no, never acted that way. American presidents are clowns and nobody ask nation anything. That is how things look like.
      Russia-USA same thing in different ways.
      I hope normal Americans don't support USA invasions, breaking of international law, disrespecting UN, borders of independent countries, killing civilians, usage of nuclear weapons... USA do all this and much more. I hope people don't support it but I can't see that anywhere. Like there is no freedom, just brainwashing.
      From Europe, I see you two like two sides of same coin. Something is raw, something shinny, sofisticated but what you see behind the scene is just the same.

    • @mebsrea
      @mebsrea ปีที่แล้ว

      And Putin did his best to export Russia’s “model” to the US, in the form of our own orange would-be Mussolini and his spineless enablers in the Republican Party. That’s reason enough to give Ukraine everything it needs to crush the Russian military and kick it back across the (1991!) border to Mordor.

    • @WhiteDragon689
      @WhiteDragon689 ปีที่แล้ว

      Putism is exactly what Trump is aiming to achieve in the USA with the help of the republicans and his MAGA army.

    • @Videosop23
      @Videosop23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Strong" or not, some dictatorships are long-lived. The Kim dynasty that, along the military, rules North Korea with an iron fist and does not rely on wars of expansion to pacify its population, has lasted for much longer than most experts had guessed. However, the Kim dynasty owes much of durability to China (and, in the past, to the Soviet Union), which has an interest in maintaining it as a buffer state, basic human rights be damned.

    • @suportbghelp4938
      @suportbghelp4938 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If u found good leader,, u keep him at long u can.This is stability, what people wish after that misery decade in 90s.And if u check many in EE still live in this 90s, Ukraine/Moldova and so on.Russian wish Biden for president...No, they not! :)

  • @dougjones4538
    @dougjones4538 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fascinating analysis! Thank you Nina Khruscheva and DW News for an enlightening and sobering report!!

  • @andrewlee1761
    @andrewlee1761 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    fantastic interview! much appreciated.

  • @jampasurprenant1794
    @jampasurprenant1794 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely great interviews, the lady is amazing. Interesting and intelligent.

  • @ant318
    @ant318 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    The “parade” was more like a funeral 🪦 🇷🇺

    • @robertsmith5744
      @robertsmith5744 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ex KGB Putler's Russia is a PRISON.

    • @paulhargreaves1497
      @paulhargreaves1497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So sad......not!

    • @dartfather
      @dartfather ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@paulhargreaves14971 tank parade!

    • @ramdev9578
      @ramdev9578 ปีที่แล้ว

      American army parade would have been awesome. LGBTs cavorting down the main street, dressed in frocks, marines marching in high heels, f-35s going up and down like helicopters. And a loony liberal opening fire on school kids 😂😅😂

    • @paulhargreaves1497
      @paulhargreaves1497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@dartfather TBH, a no tank parade would have been less ridiculous than this shitshow!

  • @edwardfowle2404
    @edwardfowle2404 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I really like Nina Khrushcheva. She is so Intelligent and well spoken.

  • @hotchihuahua1546
    @hotchihuahua1546 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The Russian people must distance themselves from Putin ! If there is any hope for Russia to be part of a progressive world !

    • @jessenickerson2333
      @jessenickerson2333 ปีที่แล้ว

      The "progressive world" BANISHED Putin...what are you talking about?!

    • @slowmorbius8805
      @slowmorbius8805 ปีที่แล้ว

      The progressive world will never allow Russia to become prosperous and part of a world that promises prosperity. Because the West's goal is to destroy Russia and hatred of the Russian people is part of the policy of NATO and the EU

  • @jakobfromthefence
    @jakobfromthefence ปีที่แล้ว +1

    As we would say in my country, that was a glass of clear wine. Very good interview.

    • @HarryHoudini-it9or
      @HarryHoudini-it9or ปีที่แล้ว

      That was polluted, non-journalism. Every question was a leading one. Are you serious?

  • @gregknipe8772
    @gregknipe8772 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    brilliant interview given the moment. thank you.

  • @JustinTimeEnglishClip
    @JustinTimeEnglishClip ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great sense from this speaker. More please 🙂

  • @briancase6180
    @briancase6180 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This is a great interview. More Khruscheva, please. I really get the feeling I would like to meet her. I wonder if this Russia gives her pain in that sense that it is her county of birth and she would like to see it peaceful and prosperous. Thanks!

    • @davidwright5094
      @davidwright5094 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You wonder? --really?

    • @ak5659
      @ak5659 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the honor of sitting in on one of her courses. She's a fascinating lecturer. Students were rarely absent.

  • @timandsuzidickey9358
    @timandsuzidickey9358 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well Done. !! Thanks. !!

  • @AGENDA_1938
    @AGENDA_1938 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    fascinating, incredible comprehensive, outstanding questioning.
    Imagine that with Tim Sebastian:
    He would still battle around the third question and just spew tension instead of thoughts.

  • @yo-ry1np
    @yo-ry1np ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah Putin is always standing on top of buildings yelling here I am, get me with a fire cracker😅

  • @Cola_Dulz
    @Cola_Dulz ปีที่แล้ว +10

    She is describing russia as a country occupied by a single fascist dictator, not the country that brought this fascist dictator to power and when he went too far they ran or scared.

    • @jessenickerson2333
      @jessenickerson2333 ปีที่แล้ว

      The American military industrial complex wants this war to continue...we are at the edge of the abyss and no one cares whatsoever. Ukraine and Zelensky are simply pawns in a much bigger game. The actions being implemented now are from plans made right after the Soviet Union fell.
      Why does NATO still exist? NATO was created to counter soviet Russia and the Warsaw Pact...why did NATO not disband?
      Because the US wanted to destroy Russia. There was no genuine plan to democratize it. There was no plan to bring Russia into the fold of wealthy or dominant nations/democracies. No, the US ALWAYS wanted Russia as an enemy, even if they wanted peace.
      NATO continued to expand and violate every agreement posited / codified after the Soviet Union fell. NATO continued to push up and inch towards Russia's doorstep.
      The US tried to intervene in a 2014 coup during the Color Revolutions and instill a "democracy" there; a puppet of the US right on Russia's doorstep.
      I am NOT a Putin sympathizer. These are FACTS. And now the world will eventually pay for these bold and careless mistakes. Mark my words. We are THIS close to nuclear confrontation. Meanwhile, while we expend treasure on Ukraine to fight a pointless war, China is now coming up very quickly to surpass us in the global and arms markets. The stage is being set for another world war, and we are plunging FULL STEAM ahead.

  • @ianhogg4285
    @ianhogg4285 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent interview! Thank you.

  • @jimrevkin9271
    @jimrevkin9271 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    fantastic interview. Nikita would be proud of her, even if he disagreed with her.

  • @kaijusushi8165
    @kaijusushi8165 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Its obvious Putrin is now afraid for his own safety

    • @maxfrost9149
      @maxfrost9149 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That a very funny statement 😂

  • @patrickmoriarty7273
    @patrickmoriarty7273 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sarah Kelly is a great moderator for Conflict Zone ~ very interesting and incisive questions

  • @adammarshall6257
    @adammarshall6257 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Great interview, as always.

    • @kukulroukul4698
      @kukulroukul4698 ปีที่แล้ว

      nah , she isnt Tim Sebastian ...she's .... TOTALLY out of the business . She isnt CAPABLE to feel it

  • @2358nick
    @2358nick ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done again Professor Kruscheva. It's grim and the only way is to tell it like it is.

  • @youxkio
    @youxkio ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I share Nina Khruscheva's feelings about the future of Russia. It is an incredible mash of interests and powers sub-located in so many spheres of leadership and a little in each division of governance. The defeat of the Russian forces in Ukraine is a bet that may trigger so much division it may lead to another civil war and the separation of more Russian territory into fragmented and independent states. It may also consolidate Russian power and turn it into an autocratic state, excluded from the global economy.

    • @unoimright5153
      @unoimright5153 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just like North Korea, even their military parades are the samr

    • @pcuimac
      @pcuimac ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry, but the russian forces are winning on every level. And Putin never wanted to invade all of Ukraine or even Europe. He wanted to have Ukraine stay neutral and free of NATO nuclear missiles and ABMs.

  • @jasonwalters6329
    @jasonwalters6329 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wouldn’t use Russia and prestige……in the same sentence particularly in reference to leadership and or military.🇺🇦🇦🇺🕊

  • @salenddeo9099
    @salenddeo9099 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 💪💪💪💪

  • @passais
    @passais ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant. Such balanced view, knocking down any wishfull thinking or western narratives of the interviewer.

  • @gregorykruszynski5886
    @gregorykruszynski5886 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prof. Khrushcheva what an amazing wisdom and intellect always a pleasure to learn from, thank you for your analysis.

  • @brianmcnellis5512
    @brianmcnellis5512 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Props to Nina Kruscheva. She doesn’t get hung up on any one issue, she just moves on to the next question.

  • @billr6887
    @billr6887 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is an excellent interview - both in terms of the questions asked and the depth and insightfulness of the responses given.

  • @rajivshori
    @rajivshori ปีที่แล้ว +2

    she is very pragmatic and tells a lot of common sense very authoritive and well researched

  • @gamingjunki
    @gamingjunki ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like how she doesn't add conjecture to everything like so many of these interviews

  • @defcondeltailiecheatandste1852
    @defcondeltailiecheatandste1852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When at war freedom of liberty and information is always curtailed. PERIOD.

  • @331SVTCobra
    @331SVTCobra ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Kruschev's granddaughter is pretty cool.
    "I'm not a fan of collective punishment, so I'm going to cry too." Beautiful.

    • @ramdev9578
      @ramdev9578 ปีที่แล้ว

      Take your meds. Cry, it will help you till the white coats arrive. Don't shoot any school kids, calm down.

  • @peteratkin3788
    @peteratkin3788 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nina Khrushcheva is a breath of fresh air, will be adding to my resource list..
    Essentially its now in Puttin's interest both personal and political to prolong the war until he wins or looses, the west also needs to grasp the fact that this is potentially a forever war.
    The interviewer I'm not impressed with at all, as soon as Nina answered in a way that poured water on her assertions, she quickly cut Nina response and moves on, or so it seemed, not impressed at all, this happened several times.

    • @steadmanuhlich6734
      @steadmanuhlich6734 ปีที่แล้ว

      You wrote: "The interviewer I'm not impressed with at all, as soon as Nina answered in a way that poured water on her assertions, she quickly cut Nina response and moves on, or so it seemed, not impressed at all, this happened several times."
      I noticed that too. I think the journalist has a producer who wanted some answers they could promote, and it seemed that Nina got a bit perturbed near the end, after several moments of the journalist asking the same question (trying to get the answer she hoped to get).

  • @audreyhendersen3975
    @audreyhendersen3975 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Terrific interview!!!

  • @jonathaneffemey944
    @jonathaneffemey944 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for posting.

  • @jim2376
    @jim2376 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    FUN FACT: "One of those who cooked for Rasputin during the Great War was a chef at Petrograd's luxurious Astoria Hotel who went on, after the Revolution, to cook for Lenin and Stalin. He was Spiridon Putin, grandfather of President Vladimir Putin." Source: Montefiore, Simon, "The Romanovs", Vintage Books, 2016, page 600.

  • @trevor9934
    @trevor9934 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview, and Sarah Kelly is a lot more welcoming as an interviewer than her male counterpart.

  • @stevea2909
    @stevea2909 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Muskovy will be stuck until the fearful leader leaves the Duchy

  • @denniswhite4101
    @denniswhite4101 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Informative, but important to be careful and not fall under her charismatic spell. Great job on the interviewers part keeping the interview grounded and interesting.

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    Yes Putin, NATO is getting closer to your borders. YOU made it happen.

    • @vivavideo-videofilmer
      @vivavideo-videofilmer ปีที่แล้ว +8

      shows what a brilliant genius he is

    • @aaronclarke1434
      @aaronclarke1434 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      “Look in a mirror. You caused this.”- Sauli Niinisto

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

    • @yoannsebastiengarneau318
      @yoannsebastiengarneau318 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol nope better do war now then defending on russia land when nato will attack

    • @Pebbzor
      @Pebbzor ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aaronclarke1434Did he say that?

  • @thisismetoday
    @thisismetoday ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The lady has a lot of knowledge, but she’s not really understanding what the interviewer is getting at. Which is trying to understand the changing sentiment within the Russian population

  • @ghostlightx9005
    @ghostlightx9005 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Did she just say the parade was carefully choreographed to display "military might"? Laughable. I'd say It showed the opposite.

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?v

    • @EuanWhitehead
      @EuanWhitehead ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@javierfrancia1938I've seen you comment this like 3 times now wtf do you actually mean when you say this? And what "Tribe" are you?

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EuanWhitehead oh, its more than 3 times, ...and you know exactly what it means, but then again you might feel directly implicated with the tribe, or maybe you have no clue of the subtle language, who knows?

    • @EuanWhitehead
      @EuanWhitehead ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javierfrancia1938 not really man you're just a rando online idk what you're on about you sound like you're just spamming as a troll

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@EuanWhitehead looks like you are just an unemployed kid trying to sound tough and getting entangled into geopolitics without any knowledge or experience

  • @tdtm82
    @tdtm82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Refreshing to hear a true Russian perspective whilst also being careful with choosing her words and extreme honesty about what will happen. It's going to be another interesting episode in history soon.

  • @annehersey9895
    @annehersey9895 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What happened to Tim? I thought Tim was the best conflict zone host. He really asked the uncomfortable questions and dug and dug and dug until he got some answer and not just politispeak!

  • @gregorybogdanoff8205
    @gregorybogdanoff8205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nina Kruscheva says it like it is. Eastern European countries knew this about Russian behavior and thinking and it's taken democratic western countries a long long time to get a glimmer of understanding where Putin and Russian society is coming from.
    So much for providing Putin with an 'off ramp' theory. They thought the early days of the war that Putin would realize he made a grave miscalculation and needed some 'cover' to get out of the special operation, i.e. 'off ramp'. Well the only thing Putin understands is brute force, and he really doesn't care how many Russians die in this war. Hard concept for 'The West' to understand. Yes it's 13th century with modern technology.

  • @raisedTwIsTeD
    @raisedTwIsTeD ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That's not a Mexican stand-off. A Mexican stand-off is like a cold war. Everyone has guns pointed, but no one is shooting. What you have now is the shoot-out that follows the stand-off. You're in a shoot-out, and the last man standing wins.

  • @larsrons7937
    @larsrons7937 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    _"Do you wanna hear a joke? About russia's Victory Day parade?"_
    *_"No tanks!"_*

  • @abynor8687
    @abynor8687 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Russian trolls in the comments are very afraid of Ukraine getting F-16s.
    Time to make Russian trolls really depressed.

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

    • @Ютубводоканал
      @Ютубводоканал ปีที่แล้ว

      Russian troll here. Give Ukraine everything they ask. Total demilitarisation and denazification of NATO is needed.

  • @janlang8605
    @janlang8605 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely superb interview!

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Professor Kruszchev is a very smart honest guest to have on
    RS. Canada

  • @ypure3859
    @ypure3859 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good interview delivery

    • @HarryHoudini-it9or
      @HarryHoudini-it9or ปีที่แล้ว

      haha you're joking right? Every question is a leading question! do you know what true journalism is??

  • @isunlloaoll
    @isunlloaoll ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Of course russia can move pass putin. The real question is: can putin make it pass Ukraine? History will remember putin as a failed tyrant who caused countless lives to end.

    • @niburu1508
      @niburu1508 ปีที่แล้ว

      🥱🥱🥱

    • @ghostlightx9005
      @ghostlightx9005 ปีที่แล้ว

      But hopefully the West has learned to never deal with russia again. They have been given chance after chance to act like a civilized country and they show their true colours every time. They are barbarians and we should keep them ostracized forever.

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

    • @noquochoke
      @noquochoke ปีที่แล้ว

      @@javierfrancia1938 Go away Putin troll.

    • @First-Last_name
      @First-Last_name ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​​@Arlan Filank UNPROFOR was in kosovo. Over 40 nations including russia took part. russian forces are responsible for the lybia civil war. They have troops there guarding oil pumps they get the profits from. Afghanistan attacked the US. The terrorists responsible gained power due to russias war in Afghanistan 🤷‍♂️
      If you really want a long list of wars look at how many russia has touched.

  • @willthecat3861
    @willthecat3861 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really really enjoy hearing from Dr. Khruscheva. IMO... as much as anyone can know Russia... she knows it.

  • @avlasting3507
    @avlasting3507 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As others have said, please offer Khruscheva her own show!

  • @kaimingraymondchoi9909
    @kaimingraymondchoi9909 ปีที่แล้ว

    all of us should understand that

  • @pepsee0
    @pepsee0 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Dear Nina Khrushcheva, adopting a purely academic perspective on this war yields limited insights. This war will reach its conclusion very soon. The evident decline of Putin and Russia suggests that the aftermath will devastate the Russian people.

  • @hondaxyz
    @hondaxyz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really don't understand the west obsession with Russia.

  • @Dylandog24
    @Dylandog24 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "So many unknown unknowns" .... It would seem that Nina Khrushcheva, as a Russian born and bred, cannot bear to imagine a defeat for for her country. If you are Russian, 'Russky Mir' will always have appeal.

    • @gaoxiaen1
      @gaoxiaen1 ปีที่แล้ว

      She's American now. Her grandfather denounced Stalin. Things improved until POS Putin started invasons of its "brothers". Russia almost became a normal country. Now it will be a pariah state for generations.

  • @bernardbarry447
    @bernardbarry447 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great interview

  • @ryanthompson1981
    @ryanthompson1981 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Release the F-16's already!

  • @JimTimber
    @JimTimber ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Victory day !! lol 😂😂😂😂😂😂
    Interesting to hear Ms. Khrushcheva speaking.. obviously a highly intelligent lady !

    • @RavingFan
      @RavingFan ปีที่แล้ว

      nyc surrounded by tough critics - why she good

  • @dna9838
    @dna9838 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Well they'd best not get too used to him. He's probably still a fit guy, but already well over the average male life expectancy for a Russian. What a shame he's only been a superficial nationalist, spending the last 20yrs cementing his personal power instead of fostering strong and enlightened replacements to take his place and transform Russia into somewhere people will want to live and other countries to ally cooperatively with.

    • @rrai1999
      @rrai1999 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Truly. This is probably the only comment on this video with any substance

    • @EuanWhitehead
      @EuanWhitehead ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yea he's a dictator isn't he, has serious personality problems and in his mind he is the most important person on the planet so he will do anything to protect it. All dictators are the same.

    • @RavingFan
      @RavingFan ปีที่แล้ว

      putin's handpicked cabinet supply him w/ 'correct' answers eg. russian 'liberators' be welcomed by ukr women throwing flowers at them, ukr army fall in days / wks. pointless to contradict him (out of job), so create 'acceptable' intel rpts n pocket money funding make believe informants (win-win).

    • @Laughing_Lord
      @Laughing_Lord ปีที่แล้ว

      So true The disappointment of the century, I would say. But this does not mean that we should not exterminate the Ukrainians.

  • @carlduplessis31
    @carlduplessis31 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting interview.

  • @davidressler4292
    @davidressler4292 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Her comparison of Putin to Trump is very accurate

    • @javierfrancia1938
      @javierfrancia1938 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Nina is of the same tribe as Ziolensky?

    • @noquochoke
      @noquochoke ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@javierfrancia1938 what’s your problem?

    • @First-Last_name
      @First-Last_name ปีที่แล้ว +2

      When did trump assassinate political rivals and friends getting to popular?

    • @foilhat1138
      @foilhat1138 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@noquochoke He forgot to take his meds.

    • @paulhargreaves1497
      @paulhargreaves1497 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@First-Last_name Jan 6th was close ....

  • @rytiss.5205
    @rytiss.5205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It should not be forgotten that historically power in Russia was always very concentrated from the Czarist times through the Soviet era and up until this day and every attempt at loosening the grip always led to massive turmoil and traumatic experiences for the population. Thus, many Russians see authoritarian rule as a maybe not very pleasant but nonetheless necessary instrument to keep even worse things away.

  • @helenrushful
    @helenrushful ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The only 'truth' we can rely on here is that Putin is fighting against an entire country, every man woman and child, and in his OWN country very few people want to fight or really believe there is anything worth fighting for. So anyone basing their understanding of Russias chances based on the populations of the two countries, their GDP's or the size of their armies are entriely underestimating what having a real cause means. Look at Afghanistan, an even poorer country, with a smaller population and NO army, managed to defeat the Soviet Union (a MUCH bigger and better bankrolled army than Russia has) and the USA. Look ate Vietnam and Korea, both of which eventually wore down both China and the USA. Putin is going to loose this BIG TIME, and quite soon.

  • @paulmorgan8254
    @paulmorgan8254 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nina Khrushcheva - bright, intelligent, realistic basically saying it will only get worse. I've worked in Russia & hated the control but the people very open when you get to know them. I really wish the Russians could be free even it means breaking up the country into time zone areas. I never realised till I worked there that the Russian people needed permission to travel internally in their own country, with an internal passport. I don't know if it's still like that.

  • @wendellbatts2477
    @wendellbatts2477 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    As a Russian elite, she naturally has cognitive dissonance. Can't conceive of a Russian defeat. Ukraine can absolutely knock this administration out by collapsing Russia's defensive line. Like the way this interviewer probes.

  • @jkrejci.
    @jkrejci. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ruskyi mir is simply Lebensraum idea and ambition of the Asian hordes to become part of the rich (both in history and wealth) European continent. Nina presents the facts and is capable of accurate analysis of the situation, yet she cannot separate herself from the idea of Ruskyi mir and relativizes the horrible depths to which the nation descended. She also does not believe that the country can democratize the way Ukraine did, which makes her a proponent of the past. It is not about wishful thinking, but about an ideal of revival which should always be pursued.

  • @jonnybalz
    @jonnybalz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    She mentions Donbass, What/who is Putin looking for there?

    • @davidwright5094
      @davidwright5094 ปีที่แล้ว

      He's looking for nothing more than a hiding place from acceptance of his own cognitive limitations. Putin's dysfunctional response to discrepancy between his pet theories and reality is to angrily smash at reality with a succession of increasingly large hammers.

  • @terrencedaniels4232
    @terrencedaniels4232 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    An intellectual brave enough to say "I don't know" , knows more than most:)

  • @browngreen933
    @browngreen933 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    No official Chinese Victory Day attendance this year. I find that significant.

    • @gaosunibu
      @gaosunibu ปีที่แล้ว

      Chinese FM is standing at Berlin in this Victory Day , if you read the news,it's pretty much meaningful to the world since 1945😉😉

    • @Wiers75q
      @Wiers75q ปีที่แล้ว

      It is normal year, not 5, 10 commemorative year.

    • @No_Man_Is_An_Island
      @No_Man_Is_An_Island ปีที่แล้ว +1

      humm why would a nation founded in 1949 celebrate victory in WWII that ended in 1945? it doesn't make any sense.

    • @browngreen933
      @browngreen933 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@No_Man_Is_An_Island
      Because if China wanted to show solidarity with beleaguered Putin Russia, attending Victory Day would be a perfect way to do that.

    • @shaymoore1260
      @shaymoore1260 ปีที่แล้ว

      Perhaps they were scared of drones

  • @_HMCB_
    @_HMCB_ ปีที่แล้ว

    This is an amazing channel.

    • @HarryHoudini-it9or
      @HarryHoudini-it9or ปีที่แล้ว

      Wrong, this is one of the most warmongering hawkish channels at the moment. You need to get out more! Theres a big wide world out there, noyt just US and Europe

  • @JosephHoggang-bk4bk
    @JosephHoggang-bk4bk ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Glad to see the Russia became stronger and richer because of the war, as shown in the parade of the most advance tank

    • @Ютубводоканал
      @Ютубводоканал ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We mostly have to thanks sanctions. We were 11 world economy before them and now we are 8 th! More sanctions needed of course.

    • @GaryGraham-sx4pm
      @GaryGraham-sx4pm ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Ютубводоканал you're watching too much russ tv

    • @billysastard8779
      @billysastard8779 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ютубводоканал Why does Putin drives decadent western Mercedes? Because you clowns are not able to manufacture decent automobile in 21st century.

    • @what8562
      @what8562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "The Russia"?
      Okay.

    • @gordonho3828
      @gordonho3828 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Ютубводоканал cool, let the sanctions continue forever 😊