I remember seeing the red specks on our TV with a faulty antenna. Later computer tuners were particularly bad with SECAM reception. I could put pressure on the cable to lower the noise. We had one channel from Russia on cable as the last holdout. Apparently they used pure analogue distribution back then, or would have otherwide recoded everything to PAL.
PAL (mainly used in europe and parts of south america) seems to have a better weak signal reception while SECAM (used in asia and most of africa) has more vivid colors (but with them comes a worse signal) and "fire" instead of "snow"
Snow is pretty fitting. Here in Germany, TV static is usually called "Schnee", which is literally just "snow". Not that most people still get to see any of it with analog being gone entirely since 2019 when analog cable was shut down pretty abruptly (within a month, with no prior warning)
vs. pal desaturation :) snow is common to all standards. but secam keep saturation level right but get red streaking all over palce when things are going very weak, but on real broadcasting conditions, it wasn't so annoying, only in dark/white area. but you can see saturation level is lower in pal when things are going weak.
I tested PAL and NTSC 3.58 with an RCA to RF Converter on a multisystem TV. On 60 Hz the analog video output is NTSC, and 50 Hz is PAL. PAL has the best analog picture compared with NTSC. Good thing that Europe choosed PAL and not NTSC. We never had SECAM only PAL in the analog days. What I find strange is that NTSC 4.43 is similar to PAL there is only yellow, green, blue colors no red and pink color. And PAL 60 is in black and white on a PAL and NTSC TV, you need a PAL 60 TV. Of course the Multisystem TVs don't have a problem, you just set AUTO and the TV will do the job or you can manually chanege the video mode untill the picture is in color but AUTO is much better.
"What I find strange is that NTSC 4.43 is similar to PAL there is only yellow, green, blue colors no red and pink color." You should not only find it strange, you should suspect something wrong with your equipment if you are missing some colors.
@@oldtvnut My TV has 4 video systems, PAL, SECAM, NTSC 3.58 and NTSC 4.43. On PAL the picture is perfect, on NTSC 3.58 the picture is very good if the STB is on NTSC format. Of course PAL has better picture than NTSC 3.58. Many people noticed that when the video signal is on PAL, if you switch from PAL to NTSC 4.43 there is no red and pink color, on SECAM NTSC 3.58 the picture is obivously black and white. When the video is NTSC the picture is great on NTSC 3.58 but on PAL, SECAM and even NTSC 4.43 the picture is black and white. My question is what was the purpose of NTSC 4.43 since North America and some parts of Asia use NTSC 3.58 format? Never had a VCR/DVD/STB that outputs NTSC 4.43 format only PAL and NTSC 3.58. P.S. I had the oportunity to test a North American VCR in Europe. I only needed a Power converter to use the VCR. We use 230V, 50 Hz instead of 120V 60Hz. And an RCA to SCART adapter. When I connected the VCR to my TV which is a PAL TV. The picture looked great, the video format on my TV was set on AUTO, but when I changed the video format I've seen that the NTSC 3.58 format is best for American VCRs and some devices that optuts video signal at 60 Hz instead of 50Hz. Also my TV is compatible with PAL 60 a video format only used in Latin America and is similar to NTSC 3.58
what OrangeShellGaming said. Also note how the colors on PAL are less intense when the signal is weak. That's one "sort of" advantage of SECAM... the colors are either there and vibrant (even if the signal is weak, you just get this "fire" of (mostly) red flares ontop), or the color is gone entirely/BW
SECAM may better in broadcasting into airwaves but for editing and post production, it was a nightmare. Need additional cost to demodulate colour signal for SECAM. Most of the broadcast editing and post production SECAM countries are recorded in PAL, only airwaves transmission in SECAM.
The classic color "fire" in weak SECAM TV signals !
So happy such niche stuff I'm interested in is on youtube
SECAM: 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
PAL: ❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️❄️
I remember seeing the red specks on our TV with a faulty antenna. Later computer tuners were particularly bad with SECAM reception. I could put pressure on the cable to lower the noise. We had one channel from Russia on cable as the last holdout. Apparently they used pure analogue distribution back then, or would have otherwide recoded everything to PAL.
PAL (mainly used in europe and parts of south america) seems to have a better weak signal reception while SECAM (used in asia and most of africa) has more vivid colors (but with them comes a worse signal) and "fire" instead of "snow"
SECAM looks worse with all that colour bleeding everywhere
SECAM Fire vs. PAL... Snow?
Snow is pretty fitting. Here in Germany, TV static is usually called "Schnee", which is literally just "snow". Not that most people still get to see any of it with analog being gone entirely since 2019 when analog cable was shut down pretty abruptly (within a month, with no prior warning)
Both PAL and NTSC were snow. Except NTSC can create wrong colour.
vs. pal desaturation :)
snow is common to all standards. but secam keep saturation level right but get red streaking all over palce when things are going very weak, but on real broadcasting conditions, it wasn't so annoying, only in dark/white area.
but you can see saturation level is lower in pal when things are going weak.
@@AlozhatosPAL-M also have same frame rate with NTSC, PAL-N uses same frame rate as PAL but in different color
I tested PAL and NTSC 3.58 with an RCA to RF Converter on a multisystem TV. On 60 Hz the analog video output is NTSC, and 50 Hz is PAL. PAL has the best analog picture compared with NTSC. Good thing that Europe choosed PAL and not NTSC. We never had SECAM only PAL in the analog days. What I find strange is that NTSC 4.43 is similar to PAL there is only yellow, green, blue colors no red and pink color. And PAL 60 is in black and white on a PAL and NTSC TV, you need a PAL 60 TV. Of course the Multisystem TVs don't have a problem, you just set AUTO and the TV will do the job or you can manually chanege the video mode untill the picture is in color but AUTO is much better.
"What I find strange is that NTSC 4.43 is similar to PAL there is only yellow, green, blue colors no red and pink color." You should not only find it strange, you should suspect something wrong with your equipment if you are missing some colors.
@@oldtvnut My TV has 4 video systems, PAL, SECAM, NTSC 3.58 and NTSC 4.43. On PAL the picture is perfect, on NTSC 3.58 the picture is very good if the STB is on NTSC format. Of course PAL has better picture than NTSC 3.58. Many people noticed that when the video signal is on PAL, if you switch from PAL to NTSC 4.43 there is no red and pink color, on SECAM NTSC 3.58 the picture is obivously black and white. When the video is NTSC the picture is great on NTSC 3.58 but on PAL, SECAM and even NTSC 4.43 the picture is black and white.
My question is what was the purpose of NTSC 4.43 since North America and some parts of Asia use NTSC 3.58 format? Never had a VCR/DVD/STB that outputs NTSC 4.43 format only PAL and NTSC 3.58.
P.S. I had the oportunity to test a North American VCR in Europe. I only needed a Power converter to use the VCR. We use 230V, 50 Hz instead of 120V 60Hz. And an RCA to SCART adapter. When I connected the VCR to my TV which is a PAL TV. The picture looked great, the video format on my TV was set on AUTO, but when I changed the video format I've seen that the NTSC 3.58 format is best for American VCRs and some devices that optuts video signal at 60 Hz instead of 50Hz. Also my TV is compatible with PAL 60 a video format only used in Latin America and is similar to NTSC 3.58
Pal daki normal renkler NTSC de mavi rengi pembemsi gösterir mavi rengi biraz yeşile yakın verir .
Europe and Africa uses SECAM and PAL.
Armed Forces Network TV in Germany uses NTSC.
Why it have a circle on EBU BARS?
RGB nin haricinde Secam da Sarı renk gönderilmesi farktır.
The second one looks more stable, is that one PAL or SECAM?
The one with blue/red artifacts ("SECAM fire") is SECAM, so the second one is PAL.
what OrangeShellGaming said. Also note how the colors on PAL are less intense when the signal is weak. That's one "sort of" advantage of SECAM... the colors are either there and vibrant (even if the signal is weak, you just get this "fire" of (mostly) red flares ontop), or the color is gone entirely/BW
it's PAL (Let's go europe got a better standard for weak signals)
You compared SECAM and PAL but what about NTSC? How does NTSC compare?
What are you using at 0:00
I started with SECAM :-)
I mean what machine are you using? But thank you for the reply
@@Dacat4567It looks like some test device from the PM 541x -family. Perhaps PM 5418 TD
Secam looks better. Wondered Why it wasn't worldwide standard?
SECAM may better in broadcasting into airwaves but for editing and post production, it was a nightmare. Need additional cost to demodulate colour signal for SECAM. Most of the broadcast editing and post production SECAM countries are recorded in PAL, only airwaves transmission in SECAM.
SECAM pal vs ntsc
secam was better
System L (France and nearby border of Luxembourg) vs system K (overseas France and former French colonies in Africa)