UpCycle an Old Chisel

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2013
  • Why buy a new chisel when you can make an old one look new again. In this video I will show you how to take a old plastic handle chisel and make a new wood handle with a classic look.
    These videos are intended for your entertainment and only demonstrate the way I do these things. Thus may not be the best way to perform these tasks.
    As always, Be sure to read, understand, and follow the instructions that came with your tools, equipment, and finishing materials. Always work safely and wear proper safety equipment and have adequate dust control and ventilation.
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  • @CipsWoodChips
    @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks Steve
    I like to fix and redo things. I can afford to buy new, but things I fixed mean more to me.

  • @kenzpenz
    @kenzpenz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like fixing the old stuff as well. You may have motivated me to get on those old clunker chisels and bring them back to new. Thanks again for a great video.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Those old chisels have great character.

  • @joannetaylor2327
    @joannetaylor2327 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent video. Very impressed with skills presented.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Joanne Taylor Thanks Joanne. I like making things look new.

  • @rizdalegend
    @rizdalegend 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    great work, I will remember this when I scrounge rummages for old tools

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Aaron,Glad you liked it.Regards, Cip

  • @hizo64HH
    @hizo64HH 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice! I am inspired to finally up cycle my old chisel.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Greeting s Hizo! I have a lot of old tools from my father and grandfather. New wood handle tools are so expensive. Cheers

  • @lesgill8490
    @lesgill8490 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cracking video you have taught me a thing or two thank you for taken the time, another satisfied NORTH EAST U.K. viewer.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you found the video useful.

  • @slindsley1951
    @slindsley1951 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well done Cip. I'm sure your refurbished chisel will give you many years of good use.

  • @JohnFleshman
    @JohnFleshman 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice little project! looks very good when you get it finished.

  • @gunterschone8402
    @gunterschone8402 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Cip,
    Thank you for the informative and instructive video.

  • @adamquincey4371
    @adamquincey4371 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very nice, good job... Cheers

  • @Organikmechanic
    @Organikmechanic 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful! Thanks for explaining so clearly all the steps and precautions you take when doing this. I really enjoyed watching it. Time for me to have a go.
    Cheeers from France, Andy.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Merci, Andy
      It is fun to improve an old tool and keep it longer. I visited Paris in 2012, enjoyed it greatly. Hope to visit again this year.
      Thanks for watching...Cip

  • @ronin4711
    @ronin4711 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Real nice work, thanks.

  • @billastell3753
    @billastell3753 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That handle was perfectly useable. If you want to make work for yourself, well OK then.

  • @OldSneelock
    @OldSneelock 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice work on the handle.
    Haven't had a chance to look at more of your videos. I subscribed so I can come back later.

  • @kleinjahr
    @kleinjahr 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nicely done. If the ferrule is a touch loose, a couple of center punch marks will hold it. I'd also use a tube cutter rather than a hacksaw. It cuts straighter and leaves a little burr, which can be rolled. Makes a nice finish, in my opinion.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howdy Kleinjahr! It may be my cutter but it crushes its way through the copper. That is why I cut them with the hacksaw and clean them up with a file. Thanks for the tip. All the Best.

  • @djaxup
    @djaxup 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How the heck did i get here? Can´t remember...But you remember me of how sweet it is to work with wood :)
    Awesome Video, greetings from Berlin. New Subscriber :)

  • @eld220
    @eld220 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice Cip. Like the finish. I use that sanding sealer also but I thin it down with lacquer thinner.Love your videos.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I thin the sanding sealer, too. I thin it just enough so that it spreads easily.
      Kind regards,Cip Mendez

  • @InformationIsTheEdge
    @InformationIsTheEdge 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Upcycling. What a great concept. My first thought was, "No! You are ruining a perfectly serviceable chisel." That thought went away quickly enough when you pulled out that excellent piece of oak. The finished product looks as good as what the professionals were using in the golden age of hand tool work. Very nice work and thanks for the excellent video. Totally gave it the thumbs up.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your nice comment. I like to make things new again. The Oak wood was recycled from a piece of an old end-table. I had been save that piece for a good while, finally got to use it.
      Cheers, Cip

    • @InformationIsTheEdge
      @InformationIsTheEdge 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cip's Wood Chips
      I think I know the feeling. Last year I restored a few old Stanley planes and pair of hand saws back to usability. There is something rewarding about taking something almost ready for the trash bin and making it back into a quality tool.
      Some day in the far flung future some lucky person will be handling one of your Upcycled chisels and may even think back on how it got there. Who knows? They might even see your video here and witness you making it for them! Thanks for your time.

    • @malcolmoxley1274
      @malcolmoxley1274 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      InformationIsTheEdge I am in the process of rehandling my plastic handled marples,nothing wrong good well made but the smell of the handles is awfull,apparentley its the manufacturing process so i too am looking for some decent wood,nice bespoke any ideas?

    • @InformationIsTheEdge
      @InformationIsTheEdge 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      malcolm oxley I am not particularly qualified to know good advice from bad so I'll pass along what I've learned and you can do the research. The gentleman in this video used a very attractive piece if oak, which I believe is white oak. Very solid, dense hardwood that will resist blows from a mallet. Maple is another hardwood that folks like. It's not as dense as oak but less expensive and some like the look better. Personally, I quite like hickory. My Pop grew up on a farm and all of the tool handles that took the most abuse were made of hickory. Axe handles, wheel barrow handles, hammer and hatchet handles. If it took a beating, hickory was always part of it. Some folks like Walnut because it's a bit easier to tool and can have some striking grain patterns. As it happens, I have a few chunks of white oak that have been drying in my basement for a few years. Some trees came down in a bad storm and the power company left them on the roadside. So if it were my project, it would be oak.
      Best of luck with your project. I hope you have a good time, learn some cool stuff, feel the satisfaction of doing a job well and have a beautiful upcycled tool when it is all done!

  • @TheRedbeardster
    @TheRedbeardster 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice job, sir! :)

  • @figibloom
    @figibloom 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey looks pretty good to me. Nice chisel

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      AJ Pierce Yes, it turn out quite well. Thanks for watching Figgy.

  • @crmusicproduction
    @crmusicproduction 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    That chisel is now a thing of beauty. I think I will need to have a go. I have a lathe that is just an add on for my drill. All I need now is oak. I spent a few days last week sharpening my chisel set, you know, rouge and leather strop. And silly me just didnt remember just how sharp they are when I did a bit of work and done the big no-no fingers in front of the blade. Yup I paid for it. Blood everywhere. But I wontmake that mistake again. Anyway, great video and have subscribed. Greetings from the UK!

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for subscribing. Hope to be in London October.
      Cheers, Cip

    • @crmusicproduction
      @crmusicproduction 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Would be great to actually meet you in person.

  • @sdcrysto5725
    @sdcrysto5725 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent...Excellent video.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      sdcrysto Thank you for watching

  • @CipsWoodChips
    @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you and take care,
    Cip Mendez

  • @Robbiethewoodturner
    @Robbiethewoodturner 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    first class job cip

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I enjoy your work, also.
      Cip

  • @skelitalmisfit12
    @skelitalmisfit12 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    long sleeves + lathe usually isnt recommended but great video and im sure you could dismiss over half of the negative comments with a little blacksmithing of that tang.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for your comment. It was very cold in the shop that day. I need to cut those sleeve to 3/4 length. Cheers.

  • @macdee1733
    @macdee1733 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nicely done cips

  • @GONZOFAM7
    @GONZOFAM7 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    very nice.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jaime Gonzalez Hello Jaime! This one of my most popular and most fun to do projects. Thanks for watching. Cheers.

  • @JCARLOSDECSILVA
    @JCARLOSDECSILVA 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Parabéns, ficou bonito.

  • @jooltoolninja6261
    @jooltoolninja6261 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great job on the handle, Cip! Now it deserves a sharp edge. I use the Jooltool for that; easiest and quickest sharpener out there...

    • @crmusicproduction
      @crmusicproduction 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      noooo, do it the old fashioned way. Oilstone/waterstone, rub some jewellers rouge on a block of wood, run the bevel and the sole on it and then do the same with a leather strop......RAZOR sharp!

    • @nalayoun9933
      @nalayoun9933 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      chris randell I agree. A lot of satisfaction from sharping tools by hand. Wood carving chisels need to be many times sharper than a fine razor blade. Tried using my Dremel only once.

  • @adamlynch4607
    @adamlynch4607 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice handle. I don't think I would have gone to the effort changing a plastic handle I have tones however that I need to do that have got battered wooden handles on. I will use box, fruit wood, or high quality ash. I find oak to temperamental and can too split if there's any amount of moisture in the air. Horn beam is fabulous if you can get it!!!!

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Adam Lynch Thanks for the comment, Adam. It is interesting that this video is getting so many comments this week. It is getting difficult to find chisels with wood handles. I thought this would be a inexpensive way to make your own. Kind regards.

  • @illduitmyself
    @illduitmyself 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    heat up the handle hot enough and te handle will just pull off

  • @smd3697
    @smd3697 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoyed your video;very informative. I am in the market for a jawed chuck for my lathe. Which one do you have and do you have any recommendations? Thanks.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howdy SMD! I am only familiar with Nova chucks. They work well and have a wide variety of jaws. Nova is also sold under the name 'Record Power'. Other woodturner use Vic Marc which might be a better brand. A less expensive brand is Barracuda sold by Penn State Industries (.com). Cheers.

  • @MikeWaldt
    @MikeWaldt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent tutorial Cip, what method do you use to get a handle off an old gouge, so you can reuse the handle?
    Take care
    Mike

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike Waldt Hello again Mike. For a wood handle gouge, I would clamp the flute end in a vise being careful not to damage the flute; close to the feral. Take a scrape block of hardwood, oak would be would be good, and place the end grain against the feral. With a hammer or mallet strike the block, knocking the handle away from the gouge. Most wood handle chisels are not glued. Plastic handle are often difficult to remove.. That is why I cut them off.I hope that helps. Cheers

    • @olafbigandglad
      @olafbigandglad 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cip's Wood Chips ferrule. jesus christ.

    • @MikeWaldt
      @MikeWaldt 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cip's Wood Chips Thanks Cip appreciate it. cheers. Mike

    • @MikeWaldt
      @MikeWaldt 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Glenn Storey It must be wonderful to have such a command of the English language. I see from visiting your channel you have picked a lot of people up on their misspelling, well done. Lucky that the community has such a diligent observer.

  • @NYWoodworker
    @NYWoodworker 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A couple of technique thoughts. First to cut copper you should have used a plumber's cut off tool. You would be left with an internal burr which the tool removes as well. Second , removing the handle you should have used a power grinder, if you have. Faster and cleaner cut. The air bubbly inside the original handle was to avoid hydraulic compression when pushing into the handle. Had you drilled the new handle deeper, seating the chisel would have been much easier allowing for air displacement on a tight fit. Lastly, when separating the handle from the stock on the lathe, that is where I would have used the hacksaw. Faster and cleaner cut. Opinions are like noses, cleaned up, here are mine.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      NYWoodworker Thank you for your suggestions. These videos are a sharing of how I did the project. There are always many and often better alternatives. Cheers

  • @BradsWorkbench
    @BradsWorkbench 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How many rpm would you say ur running at there? 1800 or so?

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howdy Brad! I turned things much slower than most. I probably turned this at 1,000 RPM. 1,200 max. Thank you for your question. Cheers.

  • @ohjolt2
    @ohjolt2 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice handle, but I would have started with a better chisel. A nice socket chisel would probably be easier to rehandle (less steps). The great thing about small projects is you can afford really nice wood, you can get exotic turning blanks pretty cheap.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greeting Jacob! Thank you so much for your comment, This video got more comments than I ever expected. Which is very pleasing in many ways. I made new handles for my dad's and grandfather's chisel that were damaged or just missing.
      I was missing several sizes. Wood handle chisels are expensive. I wanted to see if I could convert a plastic handle to a wood handle. I do have a video on making a new handle for a socket style chisel: th-cam.com/users/edit?o=U&video_id=GOzWiGCXirU Thanks again...Cheers

  • @wacawtokarz3950
    @wacawtokarz3950 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jak toczę takie drobne elementy to mam 2200 obr./min. spróbuj tak na pewno lepiej pójdzie , powodzenia .

  • @robbyhelme5868
    @robbyhelme5868 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cip's Wood Chips I recently got into woodworking. I was digging through my great grandfather toolbox and found a chisel! This was great for me as I was looking at another chisel. Only problem is that the wood handle is split into 3 halves and is bent at an odd angle. I don't want to throw it away but replace the handle. Any ideas?

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Robby Helme I made handles for some of my grandfather's old chisels. Take a good look at the old handle, maybe glue it back together to use it as a pattern. Find a good piece of wood and make a new handle. You may as well give it a light sanding and sharpening. I keep mine grandfather's mostly for show.

  • @johnbailey8461
    @johnbailey8461 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I would have just built another mallet if that was the only I had…

  • @jameslucas6589
    @jameslucas6589 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Regarding the fit of the ferrule. Why not heat the ferrule? If the handle stock is left couple thousands too big, heating the ferrule will oversized it. Drive it on. Repolish it.

  • @malcolmoxley1274
    @malcolmoxley1274 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    great tutorial Cip's,what other wood would you choose other than oak? I have seven to do and i'm not a turner regards malc

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      malcolm oxley Hello Malc! I am not a expert on chisels. I see many made from Ash a few from Walnut. I think it mostly needs to be hardwood with straight grain. The wood needs to be able to absorb shock without splitting or chipping. Well that is my opinion. Cheers

    • @malcolmoxley1274
      @malcolmoxley1274 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cip's Wood Chips well iv'e had a go Cip's7 chisel handles and 18 file handles done totally enjoyed it,thanks again for an excellent tutorial,one of the handles is made from what we call over the pond as privet and it proved to be a really good choice.cheers

  • @samrodian919
    @samrodian919 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    with all the timbers you have in the States you could not have used a worse species for a chisel handle. I've never seen a wooden chisel handle made of oak in 45 years of professional woodworking, Ash is the preferred timber in Europe as Hickory is hardly ever seen here but is probably the best for the purpose as its shock absorbing properties are legendary. An Oak handle is not capable of withstanding repeated blows as might be used on a chisel in everyday use and will split before long. if you wanted it to last a bit longer then make it a registered chisel and use the other half of the cut copper ferrule on the end of the handle to prevent it from splitting .Then it might last for more than six months.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Howdy Sam! Very useful information. Thank you for your comment. Kind Regards.

    • @terry2346
      @terry2346 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think you are thinking of Red Oak and if so I would agree. But if he is using white oak then that is a totally different story and a good substitute for hickory which is the absolute best IMHO. But white oak comes in a close second---better than maple and walnut, although some would say not quite as pretty. I think made of white oak it will probably outlast all but the youngest of us and if it does break he can of course just make another :)

    • @cinderswolfhound6874
      @cinderswolfhound6874 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is the problem with youtube... idiots telling people what to do

  • @silenthill5794
    @silenthill5794 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm just getting into lathe work so bear with me, but why are the RPMs set so low that you can actually count them ? And I'm not the Safety Police, in fact I hate them, but I could have sworn your long sleeve cuff touched the chuck, twice ? Perhaps that's why the speed is set so low ;-) Nice handle, I hope I can get that good, oh and I'm glad I don't live in Europe, where they haven't had oak handles on tools for 45 years **eye roll**

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Greeting! Yes I am perhaps the slowest turner. I seldom turn anything above 1000 RPM. It was very cold that day. I used Oak because that what I had laying around the shop many people prefer Ash or Maple. Most of the work I do with a chisel requires mostly pushing and maybe a slight tap of a mallet. All the Best to you.

  • @ScotsFurian
    @ScotsFurian 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey all. Dont mean to be negative but I would like to make you all aware that these plastic handles are moulded around the 'tang' of the chisel. The tang on chisels with woden handles are longer and more pointed for grip. This is not required on a chisel with a plastic handle as the plastic is moulded around the short tang that will likely have some form of groove for the plastic to seat in and grip too. When you cut this handle away the tang thats left is not really suitable for a wooden handle. Its too short and while it obviouslt can be done its not going to be as secure as the origional plastic handle and wont last as long as a short tang with a plastic handle or a long tang with a wooden handle. Unless the handle is damaged or loose leave well enough alone is my advice !

    • @InformationIsTheEdge
      @InformationIsTheEdge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +ScotsFurian That wasn't negative. It just wasn't praise. A broad distinction to be sure. Your advice is sound and well reasoned. On the matter of, 'leave well enough alone' I was in complete agreement! But when I saw the finished product, I was totally on board with upcycling. A good epoxy would likely hold just as well as the groove you mentioned does on the plastic handle. If Cip busted that new handle, he could make another! One has to admit the finished product looks quite good too. So, here I am in middle ground. You make sense AND I dig Cip's upcycled chisel. For now, I'll just enjoy the video.

    • @ScotsFurian
      @ScotsFurian 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      InformationIsTheEdge
      Like life nothing is black and white., I often find myself contradicting myself as there is no right or wrong but there can be better ways of doing things or achieving goals. I like cips aproach and re-use ,i dont like the term upcycling, more hipster fad jargon' as much material as possiable to help both the environment and my pocket. This is not a new idea, the war years were hard and while i am too young to have endured them i know my history well enough to have learned from it. The finished product looks well and will work well enough but to further my philosophy its material, time and energy being used on something that didnt require repairing in the first place ! Totally wastefull in all respectsd apart from asthetics. He mentions that hes worried about smashing up his mallet as the handle has a metal cap for a hammer. To me , having being trained to use the right tool for the job, id use a hammer and not a mallet. Sigh. I really didnt mean for this to sound like a rant but maybe it is. The more i think about it the less i like this video but it would be a good way to repair a plastic handle chisel if it were broken. Silver linings eh !

    • @InformationIsTheEdge
      @InformationIsTheEdge 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ScotsFurian I can certainly see the value in your ideas of the right tool for the job and, if I may paraphrase slightly, not fixing what aint broke. Perfectly sensible. I quite liked your post as it made me think in a manner to which I am unaccustomed and as my handle suggests, I dig that kind of thing. Oh, one more thing! I quite like your thumbnail of the homonid from 2001: A Space Odyssey.

    • @whoababy11111
      @whoababy11111 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +ScotsFurian Not so sure about that tang being to short. I have Lie Nielsen chisels. The tang on this one is longer then mine. Of course mine are socket chisels. Maybe that makes a difference.

  • @MrYingvar
    @MrYingvar 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    4 inch angle grinder with a cutoff wheel would have shortened your labor.

  • @peroskarsson8455
    @peroskarsson8455 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    All this work just because the old chisel had a metal top whct could damage the mallet? This film is probably made to show how fine he is turning a new woden handle,. Otherwise he could put a tin plate on one of the sides of the mallet and make it a combine tool.

  • @damiangrouse4564
    @damiangrouse4564 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Execution of idea OUTstanding!!! Fixing what's not broke, not so much, there's plenty of abused/broken tools out there that could use your obvious talent/skill. I understand this is a showcase video for your channel to which I've just subscribed but If you wanted to get rid of metal cap you could have done just that.

    • @CipsWoodChips
      @CipsWoodChips  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Damian Grouse Hello Damian! Thank you for your subscription and comment. This is a popular video and I got a wide range of reactions. The video was about taking something useful laying around the shop and making it into something more useful to me. When I bought the chisel it was rusty and the cutting edge was dull and chipped, It was engraved with the initials of the local junior college, but good steel. I keep the chisel sharp and use it often. Kind regards.

    • @damiangrouse4564
      @damiangrouse4564 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Cip's Wood Chips Thanks for your response, It must be hard to keep up with all the comments. My comment was "my two cents worth" and with inflation they don't buy as much anymore. Take care!

  • @slimshadow777
    @slimshadow777 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice work but why ruin a perfectly servicable tool when there are tons of barely functional chisels only needing good handles ?

  • @krashunburn
    @krashunburn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure I am all that keen with using your Lathe rails like an anvil. Move the camera instead.

  • @AlanLiefting
    @AlanLiefting 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It was a good chisel. There was no need to modify it for your personal preferences. You should have kept it to use it with a hammer instead of a mallet.