Super Pissy Hive follow up inspection for Queen Cells S8E19
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2024
- Checking the queenless hive from FtCobb OK I relocated to see if they have emergency queen cells and are requeening. Enjoy! Channel Supporters:
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Pissyness much improved glad to see it! Surprised they didn't have queen cells pulled down. And I agree that original queen needs another box!
Hey Nancy. Yeah much better and room for improvement. I did put a box on the mama hive last night before the big storm hit and I was not greeted with kindness. Hopefully they will draw out some frames anyway.
I'm gonna say 5 before I watch the whole thing since one stung you already!! Great job "herding bees"😂I love all your sayings!! Yep, that was a pretty pissy hive in my book!! Great video Darren!!🪱🪱🪱
Thanks Patrick. I put another deep box on the split hive where their queen is at and they were none too nice. BUT, it was cloudy and a storm was approaching. I’d say they have some grumpy genetics, but most of it is the timing and conditions. Still needing to feed my vermihuts. I need more time! LOL.
@@JeromeBeeFarm Who can blame them for being a little grumpy with the bad weather😂It's hard to keep up with the worms in my VermiHut sometimes...Never enough time to do all the things I need to do!!
thank you
Thanks for watching Michael.
Lots of nectar coming in! Let's see how they behave in the dirth. I agree with an early comment, I'd have used the water meter stock to requeen.
Hey Fabian. Yeah, a very strong flow right now, that is helping with the temperment. We're getting a nice rain today. Hopefully that will continue the flow. Thanks for watching.
They are not as bad. With a queen they will settle in and do fine. Bigger hives that bring in the nectar can be feisty!
Hey amfarms. Yeah they are definitely big and feisty for sure. They pretty much filled those boxes in a week. I need to see if they are packed out now. I’m totally out of supers. I’ve been putting deeps on. I hate extracting deeps. Takes 6x as long to do a deep box vs a super.
They're going to be a 10! That was my impression before watching the video. I'm glad to see they weren't as bad as I anticipated. Congrats on becoming an affiliate for Apimaye. I'm going to order a nuc.
Hey Zelma. I love those nucs. I have two of them and will probably get another one or two at some point.
Yeah, it's a little much for me. 😄
They can be daunting. lol. Thanks for watching.
Ya for a colony that size that is not bad at all an with the weather yes that DOES for sure bring up there pissy state . I have saw storms coming in say over a day out will get the bees wound up . I think with that flow you probably need a lot lot more supers on . The big one you checked probably could handle two supers just fine . Your girl all are looking great . Thanks for the update. Thanks
Hey Kathy. Yeah, they were much better behaved this inspection. We have a band of rain coming thru today - a good thing. I was going to put that super back on there, but I have other hives needing it worse. I used up all of my supers yesterday leveling them out. I thought I had built enough to surely cover me, but nope! It's going to be a very good honey year looks like. Maybe record setting. My wife says to shut up and don't jinx it. LOL Take care.
Good Morning!! I have a hive like that also, they are out of a VHS Carny queen. They aren't bad when the numbers are down, but when the hive gets big, they get real pissy also. I have some queens coming from Natures Image Farm soon, hope to calm this hive down with Greg's queens. Good luck Darren!
Good morning Mr. Spider. What's the 411 on Natures Image queens? I'll have to check them out. - Actually, I just googled them, and sounds impressive - calm Applachan muts with some of Bob Binnies genetics in there too. (His bees, not his personal DNA) LOL So, I went to order three and the shipping was over $80. I can't live with that. I ordered 3 from Wildflower Meadows instead. Shipping $32. Both use UPS next day air.
Wow that’s awesome Darren! I sure hope they calm down when they get queenrigt! Seeing as much as they already have quieted down I bet they’ll be fine when they get right! Thanks for sharing…always fun keeping up with your escapades!! We need a garden tour soon too! Flowers and veggies! Maybe a yard tour!! 💞💕
Hey Meloney. Yeah, hopefully by the end of the month they will have a laying queen in there with that brood frame I gave them. I've been meaning to do a walk around tour. We got a late start on the garden, but it's starting to get going. I have a new watering system too that's pretty cool. It's still not completed, but it's sort of working.
@@JeromeBeeFarm awesome can’t wait to see!
On the nectar . They store up in there stomachs and then deposit it back into the cells
Yup
Hi Darren, I agree with you they don't seem to be as bad in this video as they were when out in West Ok. They were starving out West but now they have food but are Queenless so they have a new reason to be pissy. LOL ---- Would be interesting to ride your mower (with Beesuit on) around the hives and see what happens.
It needs mowed again, so that might just happen. lol.
I would use a frame of eggs from the gentle water meter hive to request the western hive.
Yeah, that's a good option. The water meter hive needs to get built up. I'll try to get them a brood frame to help them accelerate their growth. Thanks for watching!
I think they will be grumpy still. Maybe a little less, but still grumpy 3 out of 5 on the pissy meter. Anxious to see what happens.
Hey DJ. I think you nailed it with the 3/5. Once they requeen I bet it comes down even more. I was in hive 9 last night and it was way worse than this one. Somehow they got under my jacket around the waist and turned me into a pin cushion. lol
@@JeromeBeeFarm Oh no! I feel your pain. I mistakingly opened one of my hives today without smoke and they were NOT happy. I got stung 12 times. 10 of those are on my right leg. I swell pretty bad so I am in for a painfully next few days😫
Oh man. After my first year beekeeping, I didn’t swell near as much. I hardly react to it now, other than the initial sting.
@@JeromeBeeFarm I can't wait for not swelling to happen 3rd year beekeeping and the swelling continues.
If there is resources they won't be pissy was my thought, as soon as you were smoking the hum changed. At least they went down when you smoked them, that's a little better than when you picked them up. So I an not sure how they work but I have heard about a queen introduction cage that protects the queen so it can't get stung. Hopefully the small "meter" nuc explodes. Thx for sharing.
Hey Kennith. I have some of those little cages. I use them occasionally. The thing is, you have to remember to go back and remove it. lol I'm thinking that meter queen may go to hive 4 or 23 queenless hives. I may still order a couple. Jury is out. LOL Take care.
I think once they get a new queen they will be just fine
That's what I'm hoping. lol Thanks for watching.
That's a lot of bees, you would expect a super week ha ha😂
great video Jerome . every guy needs a brother in law with a lawnmower. lol
Thanks David. I’ll be sure to tell him how much I appreciate him. Appreciate you watching and commenting.
That colony from the water meter, that the city called you for, you can generally tell if you have the queen by looking at the exhaust from the vacuum, because if you have the queen, the bees that are in flight will be attracted to her QMP pheromone coming out of the exhaust.
To be fair to the pissy hive, you did start out by standing right in their flight path, and as you said, they are not queen right, which is pretty much guaranteed to raise them a step or two on the pissometer. I guess with a local dearth and other problems, your brother picked a bad day to mow the grass, which they always hate.
There is something to be said for using a scythe around the hives.
Hey Phil. Yeah that’s a good point and I have noticed bees fanning around the basket before. There weren’t many flying though as it was fairly small. I thing the mean hive will chill out as time goes on. Thanks for watching.
I'm not concerned about a hive being pissy, I've found that the hotter hives are also my best producing hives. That's what he's suits are made for!
That is often the hot honeybees genetics that makes them super honey producers, that is why researchers brought African Honey Bees over to South America. It was the hope of creating a strain that had the African honeybees super foraging abilities but to also keep them gentle with European genetics. It didn't work out that way but that was their intention and then they escaped their enclosure.
Hi Thomas. I’ve experienced the same. Usually a mean hive will forage much more. Thanks for watching.
nothing worse than pissy bees Darren when you can't see out of your vail, hope all works out buddy! 😂😂😂😂
Hey Billy Boy. Yeah, I'm hoping they keep calming down. Need to get them requeened.
Darren - have you ever considered trying a few Carniolan Queens or Caucasian Queens? Bob Binnie sure raves about them and their gentleness. Yes they make more propolis than Italians, but they way they conserve resources in the winters is quite amazing.
Hey Jeff. I haven't looked into them. Spider posted about some queens that have some of Bob Binnie's cross in them that are Applachian with some of those crosses. I may try a couple.
Pissiness level looked about normal to me considering what you were doing. Question though, a friend sent me a picture of a brood frame from his hive where the capped brood has tiny holes in the center of each cell. Is that caused by varroa mites? BTW good luck with your honey flow. Texas Hill Country is pretty dry....
Hey Gecko. I've seen that with the holes before and it was always associated with a very weak hive and even after an abscond. I don't know if it's related to varroa or not. I think it may be from the bee trying to emerge and no nurse bees to assist and/or feed them.
How often do you requeen your hives in general?
I usually let them requeen when they decide. I don't force it. I also do a round of spring splits with swarm cells, that's how I replace failed hives and keep my hive count up and control swarming. I will buy a few queens every 2-3 years to keep the VSH Italian genetics prominant. I use Wildflower Meadows - they support my channel and their link is pinned in the comment below.
Do you think they might b in a better mood if you went in during the day rather than in the evening?
Possibly. Timing is important. You want the foragers all out working is the key. Thanks for watching.
They do look much more well behaved. Its very puzzling that they didn't make emergency cells. You must not have left them with young enough brood. I would not have given them eggs from Mama. I would have given them eggs from a gentle colony.
Hey RTX. Yeah I must have gotten all the younger brood and eggs on the split. She may have stopped laying in preparation for swarming too. Thanks for watching.
If they were that bad it is a good thing you removed that queen.
Yeah, but I still have her and I provided a donor frame from her. So she and her genetics are still here in two hives. I think they will chill over time though. They are already way better than they were. Thanks for watching!
Do you normally see a break in the flow in June.?
Hey Don. Yeah about mid June it shuts down in there somewhere. Usually because it stops raining and it’s dry. Just got 2” of rain last night, so that should give it another kick.
3.5 pissy
Probably a good guess. lol. Thanks for watching.
Agree, they aren't horrible but you had dropped their population with that split and this is the time of the year where bees are about as calm as you will find. This fall they will get worse?? You are the one to take care of them so if you don't mind why should I care. LOL You might get a bumper crop of honey this year if they hold off on mowing the alfalfa.
Hey Russell. Yeah I’m still using hope as my strategy. I hope they get better. lol. It’s definitely going to be a good honey year. Even without these two hives. Thanks for stopping in.
Surprised that when you see a new queen (aka unmarked) that you don't go ahead and mark her when you see her to make her easier to find in the future. Maybe thats just me I like to have marked queens.
I like to mark them, but I’m terrible at it.So I avoid it. I got me an on the frame queen marking cage. I need to try it out.
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Thanks for watching.
I dont understand when people say the queen wont be on certain frames or whatever.not sure who came up with that,but i've seen some of my queens on full honey frames half frames of honey i even took videos where my marked queens were on the landing boards.most of the time its owners errors
Queen spends 99% of her life on a brood frame where she’s laying. Not to say she doesn’t go other places, just that you likely won’t see her there.
@@JeromeBeeFarm not sure how long they spend time on each frame,but my guess is that most times when the queen is outside the hive or crawling around on the top cover board,im guessing she has ran out of space to lay because most times the bees back fill where newborn bees have hatched
Smoking your hive will make the queen move around as well.
I think bad bees.
Time will tell. Thanks for watching.