Yeah after thinking about it you realize that Sarah is also attention deficit like Steve. They both crave attention without doing anything to warrant it. Like OP and her wife are going through stuff and also took in the child of a beloved friend who lost her life. They’re parents so ofc they need more attention as well. Idk if Steve is homophobic (sounds like he is, or just bitter and jealous). I don’t think Sarah is but I can be wrong. I just hope Sarah can realize she needs to leave Steve and learn better ways of getting attention
@@maddiemcnugget1076 i mean it's weird how long it took them to come to terms with it because sarah literally said that ''she died years ago, get over it'' was an honest truth
Ugh, peacemakers like the mom always suck coz they put the blame on the ppl defending themselves instead of the other party they always say the attacked party should be the bigger person and just let it go. Fuck that, by doing that the other party never learns or stops fuckign around.
I love OP’s comments about the recorder, honestly bring some humor to this not-so-humorous situation (seriously though, recorders are AWFUL). Hopefully Sarah can see how her choices affect her relationship with her family (it’s pretty evident) and makes the decision she finds best for her.
The mom is an enabler, not a "peacemaker", and is as bad as the people she enables, she thinks that trying to maintain peace is not picking a side, but you are 100% picking a side when you don't call out on people's BS. Remember guys, don't call out only the people BS, but enablers too.
Steve and Sarah definitely bonded over bullying others or Steve gave Sarah that validation to be a complete ass. So like, even if Steve and Sarah break it off, Sarah definitely was on some hater time bc nobody drops slurs like that. I'm sure most of the family would probably take her back outside of OP and a few others but I'm so curious about how that'd go
"You're ripping the family apart!" No, it's one person being cut out by EVERYONE. That's some amazing unity actually. So many people confuse "taking the high road" with being a massive wimp. You can't be "above" people who are walking all over you. Quiet is not harmony. You need to take stands against things that cause disharmony if that's what you really desire, but they don't, they just want quiet.
Steve wasn’t being “honest”. He was throwing a tantrum because no one wanted to talk to him. The rest of the family need to join together to let Sarah and Stave know that they are in the wrong. I would absolutely encourage people to not only avoid Steve, but also refuse to attend any gathering where he is in attendance.
He just wants to be a dick to people who he thinks don't have the right to return fire for cheap laughs. When people give him some REAL honesty, he screeches like a manchild. Petty bully behavior that he should've gotten knocked out of him by the time he was old enough to not have munchkin privilege anymore.
She destroyed her relationship with her entire family for a guy who has absolutely no reediming qualities, Sarah is destined to a pretty miserable life if she ends up marrying Steve
there’s only so much that ppl can take as far as “taking the high road.” case in point: OP, kay, the grandparents and OP’s dad. if anyone’s tearing the family apart, it’s OP’s mom and sarah. they’re enabling steve’s behavior and his behavior has been enabled for 8+ years. i’m glad OP stuck to her decision
Steve is not even family. 8 years and they are STILL not married? Sarah doesn't want to be married to him, anyway. He only treats her well because they are NOT married. He is a snake.
Steve is one of those kinds of people I absolutely hate. Kay is right, when he does he will only have Sarah there for him if she hasn't left him by then or just died herself.
I can already tell Steve is a jerk and obnoxious and crappy person. And Sarah needs to stop staying quiet and stuff and needs to stand up to Steve bullying others and she’s crazy for demanding an apology for her stuck up boyfriend. And Kay, I have so much respect for her for standing up to Steve.
So sarah is actually worse than steve and is purposely tormenting her family with steve because she enjoys watching it. That is so messed up. Narcissists will lose their mind when they lose their victims
The best way to tell if someone's "honesty" is them just being blunt or a bully is to see if they can take what they give. I don't have a filter and will often just say what's on my mind, but I recognize that, so if someone does the same to me, it's fair game and I don't demand apologies. Steve's just a bully because when someone gives him a taste of his own medicine, he gets angry his victims are fighting back.
the high road can only go so high before it comes to a cliff, you either jump off that cliff or are faced with turning a corner but you can't go any higher. at some point you will have to descend.
🎉YAY!!! SUPER MEGA HAPPY ENDING!!!🎉 Yeah recorders are terrible!!! I’ve always been super prone to having headaches/migraines. So almost every time I practiced I’d give myself a headache from playing the devil flute!!! Also I couldn’t practice in my house I had to go outside!!!🤣😂😅😭
if Steve was abusive towards Sarag everything would be easier, if he was actually physically and or verbally abusive, she would just be in a toxic relationship and if she got out everything would be better. But no, she is just as bas as Steve if she sided with him for so long and is willing to isolate herself from her own family. It's sad, but sometimes Jerks are just jerks, not monsters, it's easier to want them to be worse so we don't have to feel bad about cutting them out, but no, they are just toxic in slightly less harmful way.
I'm glad the mom got around to things. But I'm wondering who else in the extended family is like Steve and Sarah bc i do wonder if this was the sole situation this type of thing happened or if she's got a friend that is just like Sarah and Steve
And like, i get this is general ideology she learned from other her family, but this definitely can't be the first time the mom okay'd a habitual line stepper (assuming the person isn't Sarah since OP didn't even hint that their relationship was antagonistic before Steve). Bc she very likely might be letting this happen in other situations, and I hate that for her Hopefully this mjght be the catalyst to get the mom to understand that she can have and maintain boundaries,not take any disrespect from ppl, and see that it's not taking the low road
OP realized in the update that Sarah isn't that different from Steve. They belong together
Yeah after thinking about it you realize that Sarah is also attention deficit like Steve. They both crave attention without doing anything to warrant it. Like OP and her wife are going through stuff and also took in the child of a beloved friend who lost her life. They’re parents so ofc they need more attention as well. Idk if Steve is homophobic (sounds like he is, or just bitter and jealous). I don’t think Sarah is but I can be wrong.
I just hope Sarah can realize she needs to leave Steve and learn better ways of getting attention
@@maddiemcnugget1076 i mean it's weird how long it took them to come to terms with it because sarah literally said that ''she died years ago, get over it'' was an honest truth
The fact even the 4 years old knows that Steve's honesty is "shit" says more than Steve's "honesty".
Ugh, peacemakers like the mom always suck coz they put the blame on the ppl defending themselves instead of the other party
they always say the attacked party should be the bigger person and just let it go.
Fuck that, by doing that the other party never learns or stops fuckign around.
That's not peace, that's complacancy.
Co-signed because that was some real shit you just said!
"Please lie down and be a doormat again, I'm afraid they might turn their attention to me if you dare stand up for yourself!"
I love OP’s comments about the recorder, honestly bring some humor to this not-so-humorous situation (seriously though, recorders are AWFUL). Hopefully Sarah can see how her choices affect her relationship with her family (it’s pretty evident) and makes the decision she finds best for her.
The mom is an enabler, not a "peacemaker", and is as bad as the people she enables, she thinks that trying to maintain peace is not picking a side, but you are 100% picking a side when you don't call out on people's BS.
Remember guys, don't call out only the people BS, but enablers too.
I can't imagine how crazy OP must be feeling after having to listen to Hot Crossed Buns on the Recorder for the 1000th time.
SISTER: Apologize to JERK, or we won't come for Christmas!
OP: Promise? Your proposal is acceptable.
Steve and Sarah definitely bonded over bullying others or Steve gave Sarah that validation to be a complete ass. So like, even if Steve and Sarah break it off, Sarah definitely was on some hater time bc nobody drops slurs like that. I'm sure most of the family would probably take her back outside of OP and a few others but I'm so curious about how that'd go
unironically, the dad is actually really funny, good on him for supporting kay and op
The “straight” comment made me laugh so hard lmao
Kay just said some truths that everyone else Wishes they had the chutzpah to.
"You're ripping the family apart!" No, it's one person being cut out by EVERYONE. That's some amazing unity actually.
So many people confuse "taking the high road" with being a massive wimp. You can't be "above" people who are walking all over you. Quiet is not harmony. You need to take stands against things that cause disharmony if that's what you really desire, but they don't, they just want quiet.
Steve wasn’t being “honest”. He was throwing a tantrum because no one wanted to talk to him. The rest of the family need to join together to let Sarah and Stave know that they are in the wrong. I would absolutely encourage people to not only avoid Steve, but also refuse to attend any gathering where he is in attendance.
He just wants to be a dick to people who he thinks don't have the right to return fire for cheap laughs. When people give him some REAL honesty, he screeches like a manchild. Petty bully behavior that he should've gotten knocked out of him by the time he was old enough to not have munchkin privilege anymore.
The "recorder" as in the instrument? I can understand how awful those things sound especially when given to children!!!
What tree s this recorder thing?
Edit: nvm
Any instrument sounds awful if the person playing it doesn’t know how to. Instead of criticising, try teaching them instead.
Kay got medieval on Steve's a$$.
What's the problem. Kay was just being honest.
She destroyed her relationship with her entire family for a guy who has absolutely no reediming qualities, Sarah is destined to a pretty miserable life if she ends up marrying Steve
there’s only so much that ppl can take as far as “taking the high road.” case in point: OP, kay, the grandparents and OP’s dad. if anyone’s tearing the family apart, it’s OP’s mom and sarah. they’re enabling steve’s behavior and his behavior has been enabled for 8+ years. i’m glad OP stuck to her decision
Steve is not even family. 8 years and they are STILL not married? Sarah doesn't want to be married to him, anyway. He only treats her well because they are NOT married. He is a snake.
They call it "keeping the peace" I call it cowardice
Steve is one of those kinds of people I absolutely hate. Kay is right, when he does he will only have Sarah there for him if she hasn't left him by then or just died herself.
I can already tell Steve is a jerk and obnoxious and crappy person. And Sarah needs to stop staying quiet and stuff and needs to stand up to Steve bullying others and she’s crazy for demanding an apology for her stuck up boyfriend. And Kay, I have so much respect for her for standing up to Steve.
Sarah is definitely not quiet. She supports Steve
Sarah is as nasty and toxic as Steve. She just lets him take the heat for it. She's no better.
So sarah is actually worse than steve and is purposely tormenting her family with steve because she enjoys watching it. That is so messed up. Narcissists will lose their mind when they lose their victims
The best way to tell if someone's "honesty" is them just being blunt or a bully is to see if they can take what they give. I don't have a filter and will often just say what's on my mind, but I recognize that, so if someone does the same to me, it's fair game and I don't demand apologies. Steve's just a bully because when someone gives him a taste of his own medicine, he gets angry his victims are fighting back.
Steve deserves this apology: Kay should say how sorry she is that Steve is such a mean asshole!
This is a sad story, however I love op and her family ( not sister or brother in law) you ate all so funny ha ha ❤
How long do you think it’ll take before sister and Steve realize that they have no one left because of their actions
That's their secret: They are not going to realize it.
Steve definitely knows and is probably hunting for new ppl to emotionally drain
OP's mom needs to take a stand and not give in to pressure.
the high road can only go so high before it comes to a cliff, you either jump off that cliff or are faced with turning a corner but you can't go any higher. at some point you will have to descend.
🎉YAY!!! SUPER MEGA HAPPY ENDING!!!🎉
Yeah recorders are terrible!!!
I’ve always been super prone to having headaches/migraines. So almost every time I practiced I’d give myself a headache from playing the devil flute!!! Also I couldn’t practice in my house I had to go outside!!!🤣😂😅😭
Obviously the bad guy in this story is inventor of the recorder. A true menace to society for eons.
Some people who are brutally honest enjoy being brutal than honest.
if Steve was abusive towards Sarag everything would be easier, if he was actually physically and or verbally abusive, she would just be in a toxic relationship and if she got out everything would be better. But no, she is just as bas as Steve if she sided with him for so long and is willing to isolate herself from her own family. It's sad, but sometimes Jerks are just jerks, not monsters, it's easier to want them to be worse so we don't have to feel bad about cutting them out, but no, they are just toxic in slightly less harmful way.
This is a really nice one, I'm glad op kay and jack are doing well.
😂😂😂😂 YES , Grab dad and grandpa and go have a lovely xmas 😂
I'm glad the mom got around to things. But I'm wondering who else in the extended family is like Steve and Sarah bc i do wonder if this was the sole situation this type of thing happened or if she's got a friend that is just like Sarah and Steve
And like, i get this is general ideology she learned from other her family, but this definitely can't be the first time the mom okay'd a habitual line stepper (assuming the person isn't Sarah since OP didn't even hint that their relationship was antagonistic before Steve). Bc she very likely might be letting this happen in other situations, and I hate that for her
Hopefully this mjght be the catalyst to get the mom to understand that she can have and maintain boundaries,not take any disrespect from ppl, and see that it's not taking the low road
@@eyez409 It can be from outside sources, maybe she got in with the mean kids at school. learnt it from online.
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