LSV's ending recaps: When he 3-0s: Yeah, this deck was great (points to 5 pieces of power) When he 2-1s: Yeah, this deck was medium but happy to pull out the 2-1 even if we lose the draft 😁 When he 1-2: Yeah, we got combod out twice, happens When he 0-3s: Man, Academy underperformed again, eh
For me, this draft was a demonstration of how strong skyclave is. That's a card I see get passed a bit late at times but I've always found it to be incredible. Just the fact that it removes anything 4cmc or less for good while coming with a body and being able to recur feels so incredible. You said it, but the compliment of pressure and unconditional removal (that sometimes was also card advantage) means you can sometimes overcome more broken decks by just taking out their key cards if they're not actually killing you in one turn. White just has the best removal in the game and this isn't always talked about enough IMO. Its removal exiles, hits anything, and sometimes even comes attached to a body. On the surface this was a beatdown deck, but IMO the way it played out, it was almost more like a control deck with some really nice threats.
If you're not taking Selfless Spirit there, then you need to cut it. You've got multiple ways to bring it back, and it contests Monarch. Personally I don't run it either so I'd just free up the slot.
This isn't his normal cube. This is the Power Mack Cube. Plus Phlage is better in pretty much every regard, and Ending is just better for his deck since he wasn't NEARLY as aggressive as he would have liked. Selfless Spirit still has it's place, both in the normal cube and the Power Max/Mack Cube. That place just wasn't in this deck when compared to the other 2 cards it was with.
For a while now, I've been keeping track of whether the fast lands are actually better than the check lands and almost always the check lands would have been better than the fast lands. With fetches, duals, shock-lands, tri-lands, and surveil lands, there are so many lands with basic land types that there is almost never a time when the check lands come into play tapped. I've seen quite a few times when fast lands completely screw someone over too. I would definitely make the swap in any cube not running more than one copy of the fetches and duals.
Yeah, how often the land comes into play tapped is a relatively unimportant metric. It's more about how well it allows the deck to smoothly play cards in the early game. Unlike fast lands, check lands don't significantly suffer when a deck has many un-typed lands / accelerant artifacts in place of lands. Besides - the cube already has the verge lands which can almost be considered strictly better than check lands.
@@KirillCapote , thanks for the obvious. I've been playing and watching cubes for almost 20 years now and there was a time when fast lands were better but that's come and gone. Like I said, I've actually been tracking it and the check lands are almost always better now. I've very rarely seen a t1 hand with a check land that didn't have another land that comes into play untapped. In cube, not casting a spell on t1 isn't an auto loss. And while not casting a 1 drop is bad (but mostly just for aggro) not casting a four or five drop can be equally bad in cube. You could even leave the red/white fastland in. I've seen it happen many times as it did in the above game with LSV and other games I've seen with Numot and Caleb D. Players often use a fetch t1 to get a surveil land or tri-land, so I think players overrate how important t1 available mana is. The 3 and 4 mana plays are just as important now.
@@philosopherhobbs I agree, this sounds like a great observation. I guess another important data point is how often your turn 1 land doesn’t match the types of your check land. My guess is not super often but occasionally.
Wasn't the first round of that previous 3 on 3 a domain deck and not a combo deck? I already didn't understand the title of that video when I watched it.
M3G1 I think the Rabbit for 3 was also done because they know you have Mana Tithe in your pile. They don't know that it's in your sideboard, but they know it's in your pile. Cut Down is certainly another reason, but it's likely not the only reason, since he tapped his 6th land and untapped it, clearly thinking about not leaving up Cut Down.
Going 2-1 with a deck like this after a rough draft where i don't think you could have done anything different and made a great choice just ditching blue feels so good. Beating the triple power deck. It feels better going 2-1 with a deck like this over a 3-0 with lots of power. Atleast to me it does. Drafts like this one just puts a smile on my face.
Idk, in limited the modality of burst is really really good. The liklihood of flooding out and sitting around doing nothing is way higher than in constructed, even in such a high powered cube, and there will be loads of situations when you'll topdeck burst lightning and have the mana to kick it. That's the sort of thing that can buy you the turn you need to win.
That's a pretty strong statement. You could equally argue that mono red/ gruul/jund is better surely. Easier on the mana especially with mono red/gruul. Boros also tends to run a lot of creature removal which can just be plain bad in certain matchups like combo or u/w control. At least with mono red most of their removal can go straight to the face. I'm no expert but I'm a strong disagree with your universal statement here
@@Christoff070boros is usually either mono red splash white or white splash red anyways. Anything with broadside + gut + initiative is probably the best archetype and white assists that nicely
That Tolarian Academy deck was the literal nuts.
The mox into mox into bauble into academy was hilarious
LSV's ending recaps:
When he 3-0s: Yeah, this deck was great (points to 5 pieces of power)
When he 2-1s: Yeah, this deck was medium but happy to pull out the 2-1 even if we lose the draft 😁
When he 1-2: Yeah, we got combod out twice, happens
When he 0-3s: Man, Academy underperformed again, eh
For me, this draft was a demonstration of how strong skyclave is. That's a card I see get passed a bit late at times but I've always found it to be incredible. Just the fact that it removes anything 4cmc or less for good while coming with a body and being able to recur feels so incredible. You said it, but the compliment of pressure and unconditional removal (that sometimes was also card advantage) means you can sometimes overcome more broken decks by just taking out their key cards if they're not actually killing you in one turn.
White just has the best removal in the game and this isn't always talked about enough IMO. Its removal exiles, hits anything, and sometimes even comes attached to a body. On the surface this was a beatdown deck, but IMO the way it played out, it was almost more like a control deck with some really nice threats.
The academy deck LSV always wanted.
If you're not taking Selfless Spirit there, then you need to cut it. You've got multiple ways to bring it back, and it contests Monarch. Personally I don't run it either so I'd just free up the slot.
It’s good in lurrus decks
Hate to be that person, but everything is good in lurrus deck@@ultimateo621
Yea he runs it primarily for his pet card Lurrus.
I mean he would have taken and probably played it if the pending wasn’t there. I don’t necessarily disagree that it could be cut tho
This isn't his normal cube. This is the Power Mack Cube. Plus Phlage is better in pretty much every regard, and Ending is just better for his deck since he wasn't NEARLY as aggressive as he would have liked. Selfless Spirit still has it's place, both in the normal cube and the Power Max/Mack Cube. That place just wasn't in this deck when compared to the other 2 cards it was with.
best prismatic ending ever? :)
as a mexican I love when LSV speaks Spanish, is kinda cute
For a while now, I've been keeping track of whether the fast lands are actually better than the check lands and almost always the check lands would have been better than the fast lands. With fetches, duals, shock-lands, tri-lands, and surveil lands, there are so many lands with basic land types that there is almost never a time when the check lands come into play tapped. I've seen quite a few times when fast lands completely screw someone over too. I would definitely make the swap in any cube not running more than one copy of the fetches and duals.
Not casting 1drops t1 is very bad
Yeah, how often the land comes into play tapped is a relatively unimportant metric. It's more about how well it allows the deck to smoothly play cards in the early game.
Unlike fast lands, check lands don't significantly suffer when a deck has many un-typed lands / accelerant artifacts in place of lands.
Besides - the cube already has the verge lands which can almost be considered strictly better than check lands.
@@KirillCapote , thanks for the obvious. I've been playing and watching cubes for almost 20 years now and there was a time when fast lands were better but that's come and gone. Like I said, I've actually been tracking it and the check lands are almost always better now. I've very rarely seen a t1 hand with a check land that didn't have another land that comes into play untapped. In cube, not casting a spell on t1 isn't an auto loss. And while not casting a 1 drop is bad (but mostly just for aggro) not casting a four or five drop can be equally bad in cube. You could even leave the red/white fastland in. I've seen it happen many times as it did in the above game with LSV and other games I've seen with Numot and Caleb D. Players often use a fetch t1 to get a surveil land or tri-land, so I think players overrate how important t1 available mana is. The 3 and 4 mana plays are just as important now.
@@Waghabond , yes the verge lands are definitely better but we don't have the full cycle yet.
@@philosopherhobbs I agree, this sounds like a great observation. I guess another important data point is how often your turn 1 land doesn’t match the types of your check land. My guess is not super often but occasionally.
Wasn't the first round of that previous 3 on 3 a domain deck and not a combo deck? I already didn't understand the title of that video when I watched it.
C4c had several lurrus decks. Lsv would have been proud.
M3G1 I think the Rabbit for 3 was also done because they know you have Mana Tithe in your pile. They don't know that it's in your sideboard, but they know it's in your pile. Cut Down is certainly another reason, but it's likely not the only reason, since he tapped his 6th land and untapped it, clearly thinking about not leaving up Cut Down.
based and sandy pilled
What a strange draft lol lot of interesting wheels. Clearly geez and black were heavy picks with some good blue coming around late
Going 2-1 with a deck like this after a rough draft where i don't think you could have done anything different and made a great choice just ditching blue feels so good.
Beating the triple power deck.
It feels better going 2-1 with a deck like this over a 3-0 with lots of power.
Atleast to me it does.
Drafts like this one just puts a smile on my face.
skyclave MVP!
Isn’t tarfire just better than burst lighting here? I think tarfire turning on drc and heat is more important than being able to kick it
Idk, in limited the modality of burst is really really good. The liklihood of flooding out and sitting around doing nothing is way higher than in constructed, even in such a high powered cube, and there will be loads of situations when you'll topdeck burst lightning and have the mana to kick it. That's the sort of thing that can buy you the turn you need to win.
@@grubgobbler3917I agree but I think tarfire helping delirium would come up more
I have won lots of games with a 4 damage burst lightning to the face.
@@turbobrew so have I. Burst is normally better but since we have delirium cards it changes the equation
Ask the shuffler and you will recieve. Satisfaction not guaranteed.
I shall simply draft power and draw and play it every game! I am a high skill player!
This was proof to never pass p1p1 Queen Sheoldred
Lunch time
not a trumpeting "carnisseur" can't believe this pun was missed
Of all the matches of magic, match 2 was certainly one of them.
Pretty lucky op screwed in m3 and flooded in m1. But boros is still the strongest archetype
That's a pretty strong statement. You could equally argue that mono red/ gruul/jund is better surely. Easier on the mana especially with mono red/gruul. Boros also tends to run a lot of creature removal which can just be plain bad in certain matchups like combo or u/w control. At least with mono red most of their removal can go straight to the face.
I'm no expert but I'm a strong disagree with your universal statement here
How exactly did he screw when LSV killed 3 of his mana sources? There was no screw at all. Opp Sol ring and mox count as lands 100%
@@Christoff070boros is usually either mono red splash white or white splash red anyways. Anything with broadside + gut + initiative is probably the best archetype and white assists that nicely
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