Enjoyed this. The fragmented sea imagery and discussion very much reminded me of Stanislaw Lem's descriptions of the nature and transformations observed across the surface of Solaris by scientists in the novel. Somehow, as humans, when we see what appear to be artifacts of violent fragmentation, we are reminded of ourselves, of the "unwholeness" -- one might even say parasitic aftermath -- that we spread around ourselves like a grim haze. Perhaps we instinctively recognize ourselves in what can never fly and never sink.
I feel for many of the artist - black artists that have to have conversations with people who are not really qualified to discuss the artists work. Just sayin.
Rihana kalu di tanah airku =Cita2tata bros diden we have. Artis kredibel talenta you now bros blus talenta words menakjubkan ngomong2malam tahun baru 2021 dimana!semoga hubungan. Dgn roki sudah serius.
I lived in new york city for a long time and had a chance to visit many good museums on the east coast. Also, I went to an art school where I talked to many different students with different identities. What I realised quickly is that there is a popular demand for black art. Every known museum in NYC has a special exhibition that focuses on black artists or female artists and a bonus point from a black female artist. Whenever I go to Whitney’s top floor is most likely a black photographer taking black pictures of black neighbourhoods. So I had a chance to look at many black artists, both modern and 20th century. I have talked to them in the studio, read about it in the gallery, and listen to them talking on videos. They seem to be talking about black identities, like black culture, black sexuality, black discrimination, black voice, black parents, black history, black neighbourhood, etc. I can’t name a single black artist that makes any other art than their identity. It seems that they trap themselves within their skin colour. For example, I have never seen a black artist painting a landscape or still life solely as exploring the medium or the subject. They have to slap black identity on it, and the art critics go wild. I am not saying that what they are doing is wrong. The interview on this video was fascinating to listen to. I have seen much good artwork from black communities; Jacob Lawerance’s artwork influenced me a lot. But one has to wonder, after loads and loads of black identity artwork, is there any other exploration other than their skin colour?
I agree with you. Can we get to a point where we look at the work of Arthur as we do Van Gogh? It is important to frame artworks in their culture and period but we can lose the individual human being. As a patron, I always prefer to let the artist define themselves and to attain diversity is to look for art without bias. Bias is often deeply conditioned.
@@yvanguillaume8975 help me elaborate with you. Because i try my best to be very careful about what i say and what i observe. Sharing your opinion to me why you disagree will really help me construct a better opinion towards modern art.
The way ppl view anything “Black” has be seen with a low ceiling. I believe his work along w/ other Black Artist is representing the idea of everything Black is global. From black culture to black neighborhoods, is global.
I suggest also looking into the strange economies in which the art world exists. Although you may see artists playing directy into it, playing into identity has been a key signifier in accruing a certain kind of cultural capital with the work that elevates it's value in our currently hot socio-political climate. Thus it can make things murky as to what the work can actually be responding to. Your statement isn't wrong but i'd say it's a multi-feathered bird lol.
I know nothing about Jafa’s art but I’m inspired by the way he speaks
Enjoyed this. The fragmented sea imagery and discussion very much reminded me of Stanislaw Lem's descriptions of the nature and transformations observed across the surface of Solaris by scientists in the novel. Somehow, as humans, when we see what appear to be artifacts of violent fragmentation, we are reminded of ourselves, of the "unwholeness" -- one might even say parasitic aftermath -- that we spread around ourselves like a grim haze. Perhaps we instinctively recognize ourselves in what can never fly and never sink.
Arthur Jafa is genius and "Love is the Message - The Message is Death" has to be among the best titles of all eternity.
That said, the title for THIS video was extremely poorly chosen :/
I'm listening to him talk "waiting" for the title to justify itself but all I hear is a man talking about his work, in an interesting way.
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Killing it with the pink shoes
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Great!
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I feel for many of the artist - black artists that have to have conversations with people who are not really qualified to discuss the artists work. Just sayin.
Pfffff.
agreed 🙏🏾
@@chloefourte3413 with which one?
I think Arthur would disagree. If not having conversations how do we learn?
Rihana kalu di tanah airku =Cita2tata bros diden we have. Artis kredibel talenta you now bros blus talenta words menakjubkan ngomong2malam tahun baru 2021 dimana!semoga hubungan. Dgn roki sudah serius.
I lived in new york city for a long time and had a chance to visit many good museums on the east coast. Also, I went to an art school where I talked to many different students with different identities.
What I realised quickly is that there is a popular demand for black art. Every known museum in NYC has a special exhibition that focuses on black artists or female artists and a bonus point from a black female artist. Whenever I go to Whitney’s top floor is most likely a black photographer taking black pictures of black neighbourhoods. So I had a chance to look at many black artists, both modern and 20th century. I have talked to them in the studio, read about it in the gallery, and listen to them talking on videos. They seem to be talking about black identities, like black culture, black sexuality, black discrimination, black voice, black parents, black history, black neighbourhood, etc.
I can’t name a single black artist that makes any other art than their identity. It seems that they trap themselves within their skin colour. For example, I have never seen a black artist painting a landscape or still life solely as exploring the medium or the subject. They have to slap black identity on it, and the art critics go wild. I am not saying that what they are doing is wrong. The interview on this video was fascinating to listen to. I have seen much good artwork from black communities; Jacob Lawerance’s artwork influenced me a lot. But one has to wonder, after loads and loads of black identity artwork, is there any other exploration other than their skin colour?
Sadly, you are so short sighted in your observation here ^^^
I agree with you. Can we get to a point where we look at the work of Arthur as we do Van Gogh? It is important to frame artworks in their culture and period but we can lose the individual human being. As a patron, I always prefer to let the artist define themselves and to attain diversity is to look for art without bias. Bias is often deeply conditioned.
@@yvanguillaume8975 help me elaborate with you. Because i try my best to be very careful about what i say and what i observe. Sharing your opinion to me why you disagree will really help me construct a better opinion towards modern art.
The way ppl view anything “Black” has be seen with a low ceiling. I believe his work along w/ other Black Artist is representing the idea of everything Black is global. From black culture to black neighborhoods, is global.
I suggest also looking into the strange economies in which the art world exists. Although you may see artists playing directy into it, playing into identity has been a key signifier in accruing a certain kind of cultural capital with the work that elevates it's value in our currently hot socio-political climate. Thus it can make things murky as to what the work can actually be responding to. Your statement isn't wrong but i'd say it's a multi-feathered bird lol.
Hej. Cheers. God bless sunshine. Good. Łuck. Ps. Show me every thing. And Talking. Whith me to much. Cheers.
Come to Korea bruv. Get a new outlook here.
I got you.
U somali?