You need to be consistently healthy and have a very long career to be at the top of the career hits list. Rose might keep the all time record like Ryan's career strikeout total. The game now replaces talent much faster than it ever did before since it gathers players from much of the world. A far smaller talent pool a few decades ago in contrast.
Sad that the leader isn't in the hall of fame. Baseball is leaving the best hitter of all time out of the place that honors its best players. Weird when you think about it. For something that had zero effect on his performance and wasn't illegal.
That’s actually not an uncommon thing for sluggers. Jim Thome, Adam Dunn, Ryan Howard, Cecil Fielder, and Dave Kingman are all more than 1/4th and that’s just a few guys I looked up off the top of my head. Some guys today like Joey Gallo are actually well over 1/3rd.
Ichiro has 3,089 hits in the MLB after first spending 9 seasons in Japan where he had 1,278 hits. Now, I won't say that those hits would directly translate into MLB, but 9 more year in the MLB would have put him well onto the all time leaders list.
YOu could say those Japanese hits could directly translate because the Japanese season is much shorter than MLB season. Ichiro had less games than ROse to get those hits.
It’s hard to compare the 2 leagues, but just the fact that he was mvp his very first season here, should be an indicator that the leagues are much closer than people think. There’s no doubt in my mind that ichiro would’ve been well over 4000 hits if he’d played his entire career here, and I personally think he would’ve broken the record.
The varying eras in the final set is a testament to the beauty of baseball. You’ve got guys from the 70s, guys from the 2000’s, guys from the 20s, the 60s. Sure they have been changes in this game, but this game hasn’t changed. You hit the ball. Some men are better at it than others. Always have been, always will be.
@@comeacross9 👍watch the video of Ted Williams top 20 hitters. He says he was asked by his son if he thought Musial was as good a hitter as him and Ted said, yes he was
@@comeacross9 Late in Musial's career some rookie, I wish I could remember who, asked Stan for hitting advice. He replied "When I want to hit a grounder, I hit the top third of the ball. When I want to hit a line drive, I hit the middle third, and when I want to hit a fly ball I hit the bottom third." Stan wasn't being funny: he honestly thought this could be helpful advice for mere mortals.
@@ReservoirTip that is insane. Major league hitters have a hard enough time just hitting the ball, and Stan can pick which 3rd of the ball he wants to hit lol
@@comeacross9 Pretty solid defender? He was incredible with his glove. A real 5 tool player. No flaws to his game. Could hit for average, hit for power, made spectacular catches, had a cannon for an arm and could run like the wind.
And he did it without gambling on baseball, so he'll be a lock for the HOF as soon as he's eligible. Plus he had that crazy tremendous arm. What a great player.
You kind of have to wonder just how many hits Anson could have had if they played more games in a season in the first half of his career. They were generally only playing 60-80 game seasons in the 1870s.
Ooh! Okay, so, the creator's math might be a bit off. Pujols ended 2019 with 3,201 hits which meant Ichiro never made the list. With regard to Tony Gwynn, amazing thought he was, Paul Waner had 11 more hits than Gwynn, meaning that, by 2001 - Gwynn's last season, he wouldn't have made the list...
I wonder where Ichiro would rank had he started his career in the states. 3rd I would imagine behind Rose and Cobb. I think his professional hits were number 1 if I'm doing my math right.
That last minute Pujols arrival and the last few years of Jeter after the chart was still was also poetry. This is amazing. Thanks for this video which I have commented on 7 times
Ty Cobb held the record for over 60 years. It goes to show how difficult it is to hit at the professional level for so many years. Put Pete Rose in the HOF NOW!
Pete Rose's record has to be considered unbreakable. Nobody hardly even scratches 200 hits anymore. If Ichiro started in his early 20s and didn't get hurt 10 years into his career, maybe he could have done it.
Dude ichiro accomplished what pete rose did in a much shorter time period. You don’t even need to consider the time he spent in Japan to make him the hit king.
@@hjhhh8297 Not even close. Do the math. Even if Ichiro had started in MLB instead of Japan he never catches Rose. There is only one player in MLB history who, if he had played the same number of seasons and maintained his pace, could have caught Rose: Jeter. Ichiro was amazing and I’m glad I got to see him play, but he’s not a better hitter than Rose.
@@ItsGamingFancy You suffer from recency bias. Rose’s WAR is nearly 20 points higher, his 162 game avg OPS+ is 8 points higher, and he averaged 5 more hits per season. And before you go on with the same tired bullshit about “If Ichiro had played in the States instead of Japan…,” Rose played his first 6 seasons with the 15 inch mound height and expanded strike zone and still hit .335 in 1968. No, Ichiro was not a better hitter. No, he was not a better player overall. But thanks for playing.
@@rapid13 you suffer from grumpy old man bias. Ichiro was a monster at the plate and in the field and the better baserunner. All around a better player than Rose. Rose was on a better team than almost all of Ichiros teams. Rose average over 30 more ABs than ichiro in his 162 game average so even with a lower 162 game batting average he obviously would average more hits per season. Being in the Big Red Machine for 9 years has its perks
Musial beat both, plus Mantle, A-Rod, Frank Thomas, Pujols, and others with his .559 SLG, which is 20th all-time! How many people know how highly Musial was in SLG%? Relatively low percentage of the average baseball fans, I'll bet! HR's aren't everything in hitting! There are Singles (2,253), Doubles (725, 3rd), and Triples (177) which also count for TB's that figure into SLG% also, along with his 475 HRs! Musial's 1,377 Extra Base Hits was #1 for years, topping Ruth at #2! Still ranked 4th all-time!
As an O's fan im proud of Cal and Eddie is on the list .they knew how to work the count ,and come through in the Clutch.Jeter,Yaz has my respect also .
Then Hornsby my man! And Eddie Collins and tris speaker - people who are legends to this day and I’ve heard of that is. My knowledge of pre-1900 baseball is mostly of just Cap Anson. Lol
Ichiro actually should have been on this list as of 2019, as he had 3,089 hits after the 2018 season, at the same time that Pujols was at 3,082. Wouldn't matter now as Pujols has since passed him again (and Lajoie and Murray too)
Theres something absolutely nuts about how Hank Aaron ended his career second all time in hits and first in home runs. Hitting for average *and* power isnt that common especially when people up till the forties could hit .400.
Super consistent...i think he maybe had one injury in his career. Hank Aaron is a case of showing up to work every day and being really, really good at your job
I read somewhere that decades later when they went over the stats again from EVERY game Cobb was in, they found they counted 1 game twice. If I remember correctly, he had 2 hits in a game, game was suspended for darkness, continued next day or some other time and THAT continuation was counted as a game also. So it was said that those 2 hits were counted twice. I forgot where I heard that.
@@bdog1323 good memory. I did remember hearing about that before they noticed it after Rose's 4,192nd so I guess he doesn't have to worry sweating on his own players getting being forced to talk to the government earlier that day during the cocaine trial.
@@bdog1323 nice was my man. Never heard that one.,the one I heard was they had to play a tie breaker game. And it went from Regular season game to a playoff game. So those two hits in that game got taking away. Just a quote I heard. So it is what it is. He still a badass ball player and of only two players hitting over 4000 hits. So amazing!!!
*Almost all baseball fans look at 3,000 career hits as one of the major benchmarks when it comes to career greatness. As of now (March 2021), there are only 32 players in all of baseball history who had 3,000 or more career hits. However, if you look at how many players had 3,400 or more career hits, the all-time list shrinks down to just 9 players. Truly amazing.* *Also, consider these facts with Stan Musial, Derek Jeter, and Cap Anson:* *Stan Musial, with 3,630 career hits (4th all-time), missed the entire 1945 season in his prime (age 24) because he was serving overseas in World War II. Had Musial been able to play in 1945, he could've easily finished with over 3,800 hits.* *Derek Jeter, with 3,465 career hits (6th all-time), missed almost the entire 2013 season due to an ankle injury suffered in the 2012 ALCS, and the ongoing lingering setbacks. Had Jeter been able to play fully in 2013, he could've easily finished with over 3,600 hits.* *Cap Anson, with 3,435 career hits (7th all-time), played his first 9 years of his career when Major League Baseball only played 80 games or less in a season and played 100 games or less in the next 3 seasons. Anson probably could've had over 4,000 career hits if not for the extremely short baseball seasons in the 1870s and early 1880s.*
Jeter never breaks his ankle he would broke Rose records. How about Williams missing 5 years because of war, and Mays missing 2 and half seasons because of war too.
If you pause it at 3:48... you see Cobb, Speaker and E. Collins as the top 3 in hits all time in the American League...which is kind of cool because they were all on the same team (Philadelphia Athletics) in 1928.
@@cubswincubswin Nobody is crying about it.😂😂 Thanks for stating the obvious of him never getting into the Hall of Fame. I'm sure all his fans know about the betting incident! I, myself, am not a fan. One does not need to be a fan to think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.... After all, he is the all-time hit leader. 😁😁 Nice try, trying to be smart and all, but there must be something better you could be doing.😅
Ty Cobb and many other players were pieces of sh!t in real life. They are in the HOF for what they did between the lines. We all know the Pete Rose story, but between the lines, his was a hitting machine. As a player he belongs in the hall. The guys who cheated during the games, should never get in. Case in point, Roberto Alamar. What he did proves the type of person he is. He stays in because he was a great player
For the Ichiro "If & But Gang". I LOVE Ichiro too but combining hits from different leagues to claim he's somehow the all time hits leader is ridiculous. We don't do these mental gymnastics with any other player, in any other sport with any other statistic. It's weird. If we're going to call Ichiro the hits leader, then Sadaharu Oh is the all time Home Run Leader.
You can't add them up, but if Ichiro did play his whole career in the MLB he'd be up there. Top 5 in hits for sure. He wouldn't catch Rose, but top 5 is plausible.
As far as I'm concerned, Cap Anson's record is the only legitimate one. I remember watching him play, during a time when real men played the game. Nowadays, we have a bunch of soft prima donnas, wearing batting helmets and getting paid exorbitant salaries of $80,000 a year. Cap Anson--now that's a real ball player! The one true hit king!
If you took away alll.of Pete Rose's homeruns, doubles and triples he would still have over 3200 hits. Check out a book.called "More than just the Stats"
I guess Teddy Ballgame not here due to his vacation in Korea, oh, well. It's pretty interesting that #'s 1 & 2 may be the most problematic skilled players in the sport.
The stat the surprised me the most about Ted Williams was that he hit over 500 homeruns in his career despite missing 5 seasons due to military service.
My dad got his actual autograph, but it was lost. Last Christmas i gave him my 1971 Al Kaline Topps card, at least it had a reprinted autograph on it. I didn't mind.
The 1871-1875 National Association for most all-time lists aren't counted, the actual National League began in 1876, so Wagner should be ahead of him now, and have been 1st at the time he retired.
Over nearly 145 years of professional baseball, no player was tougher to strike out than Hall of Fame shortstop Joe Sewell. In 7,132 career at-bats, Sewell heard the umpire say “Strike three” just 114 times. That’s one strikeout for every 63 at-bats, or once every 17 games, or in just .014 percent of his total times at the plate. Hall of Fame slugger Babe Ruth, whose power at the plate became synonymous with baseball during the time he and Sewell played, racked up nearly 12 times more punchouts in the big leagues. “I never had trouble seeing the ball,” said Sewell, who often claimed he could see the spiraling seams on a baseball. “That’s because I followed it in. Why, I could even see the ball leave my bat.” So it was more than a noteworthy occurrence when on May 13, 1923, Joe Sewell struck out twice in one game for the first time in his career. In truth, it was more like an historical aberration. As an American League star in the 1920s and 1930s, Sewell regularly faced some of the best hurlers the game had ever seen, including Hall of Fame names like Red Faber, Waite Hoyt, Walter Johnson, and Herb Pennock. In 96 matchups, Hall of Famer Lefty Grove - he of 2,266 career strikeouts - could never reach strike three on Sewell, prompting him to call the shortstop the toughest batter he ever faced. So with those impressive hurlers in mind, “Who was the first pitcher to strike out Joe Sewell twice in a game?” might make for one of the better trivia questions in baseball history. That’s because the answer is rookie Cy “Wally” Warmoth, who was making just his sixth career start when the Washington Senators traveled to Cleveland’s Dunn Field to face Sewell’s Indians. By May 1923, Warmoth did have a couple wins against the Yankees under his belt, but few could have predicted that he would be the first to send Sewell back to the dugout twice. Though there is little anecdotal evidence from the game, a New York Times box score shows the lefty Warmoth collecting four strikeouts that day, but also issuing nine walks and losing to Cleveland by a 5-2 score.
Thanks for posting this video. As a kid growing up in Cincinnati in the 1970's, I was a HUGE Reds fan and especially a fan of one Peter Edward Rose. I've tried to follow his work ethic of always giving 110% when I'm on the job. Pete Rose is definitely the best player of all time and deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. No Questions asked. He has more than paid his debt.
Not the best all time. Almost 2,000 more PAs than Aaron (Rose 15,890 PA; Aaron 3rd at 13,941 with Yaz 2nd at 13,992; Henderson 4th at 13,346; Cobb 5th at 13,103; Pujols 6th at 13,041, Ripken 7th, Murray 8th, Musial 9th at 12,721) give Rose the edge to get more Hits than Aaron, Musial, etc. But for the percentages ratios BA/OBP/SLG I'll take Musial any day in hitting over anybody not named Ruth, Williams, Gehrig, or Hornsby. Musial balanced BA with OBP and SLG better than any but those first 4 fellow HOF's. .331/.417/.559. That .559 SLG beats: Aaron, Mays, Mantle, Pujols, and many other so -called "better sluggers" who couldn't hit for BA or OBP as well as he did so consistently over his 22 years. Should have retired after 1962 with his .330 that year, as 1963 had him drop to .255 (again), matching his 1959 low.
Ted Williams says “hi”. He hit for the average Gwynn did, and hit for power. But Tony was amazing. I miss him tremendously. His laugh was infectious, As was his love of the game.
It's amazing that most people consider Teddy ballgame to be the best hitter ever yet he only finished with 2600 career hits across 19 seasons. Never had a 200 hit season. Interesting
The trio of Aaron, Mays and Clemente all showing up later and introducing black players and greats is so poetic. This may be, low key, the most beautiful video in TH-cam history.
Lest anyone thought Sewell was falling into a slump, the patient shortstop did not strike out again for another 32 games (more than a month’s time), and fanned just nine more times the entire season. After 12 total punchouts in the 1923 campaign, Sewell would only become more disciplined as time went on. Between 1924 and his final season in 1933, Sewell recorded two seasons with just three strikeouts and three more with only four strikeouts. In fact, he was hit by a pitch more times than he struck out in five different seasons during that span. Sewell’s consistency stretched beyond his plate discipline. A .312 lifetime hitter, he carried a 1,103 consecutive games played streak through much of the 1920s. Perhaps his most incredible feat is that he used the same bat, seasoned with chewing tobacco and sanded with an old Coke bottle, for every game of his career. Warmoth, the southpaw who twice set down Sewell in 1923, would not last in the majors beyond that season. As for Sewell, he would only suffer one other two-strikeout game - against another rookie southpaw named Pat Caraway (who would last in the majors just three seasons himself) during an Indians-White Sox tilt on May 26, 1930. Call it beginner’s luck for Warmoth and Caraway. With a hitter as foolproof as Sewell, there’s no other way to explain it. “There’s no excuse for a major league player striking out 100 times a season,” Sewell said in 1960. “Unless, of course, he’s blind.” Sewell was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1977.
Somewhere there exists a book of Baseball oddities that lists the many unusual player names. I know because at a quite stoned party ca. 1973 a dozen of us were rolling on the floor in hysterics just at the reading of them.
From what I gather as far as these charts go...Hank Aaron was greatly underrated...He gets credit to a certain extent...but in reality..he is a top 5..maybe top 3 hitter to ever play the game!!!And yes...I'm a born and raised Braves fan!!!And fuck the "plate apperance" argument...that just shows longevity and a point that he did it year in and year out..for many years!!!
Man..I feel the comments thus far..whilst only a couple...I love it...and love talking with "real" baseball guys!!!I've tried very hard as An Atlantan to not let my feelings of "Hammerin Hank" to blur my take on him.....but this man was a beast at the plate!!!And I'm proud that he wore the jersey of the team that I love!!
The fact that MLB has only had 3 different all time hits leaders since 1880 is amazing
You need to be consistently healthy and have a very long career to be at the top of the career hits list. Rose might keep the all time record like Ryan's career strikeout total. The game now replaces talent much faster than it ever did before since it gathers players from much of the world. A far smaller talent pool a few decades ago in contrast.
Ole Cap Anson, that hitting machine he was lol
Sad that the leader isn't in the hall of fame. Baseball is leaving the best hitter of all time out of the place that honors its best players. Weird when you think about it. For something that had zero effect on his performance and wasn't illegal.
I was thinking the same thing. Crazy
What's ichiros hit count with japanese baseball included?
I'm blown away by the fact that 1/4 of Ruth's hits were homeruns.
And he was getting wasted every night 😂
Barry Bonds had a homerun about every 3.8 hits
@@venegade7750, *Barry Bonds. That's all I'll say to that.
@@venegade7750 he was on steroids
That’s actually not an uncommon thing for sluggers. Jim Thome, Adam Dunn, Ryan Howard, Cecil Fielder, and Dave Kingman are all more than 1/4th and that’s just a few guys I looked up off the top of my head. Some guys today like Joey Gallo are actually well over 1/3rd.
Ichiro has 3,089 hits in the MLB after first spending 9 seasons in Japan where he had 1,278 hits. Now, I won't say that those hits would directly translate into MLB, but 9 more year in the MLB would have put him well onto the all time leaders list.
YOu could say those Japanese hits could directly translate because the Japanese season is much shorter than MLB season. Ichiro had less games than ROse to get those hits.
You have no argument with me.
It’s hard to compare the 2 leagues, but just the fact that he was mvp his very first season here, should be an indicator that the leagues are much closer than people think. There’s no doubt in my mind that ichiro would’ve been well over 4000 hits if he’d played his entire career here, and I personally think he would’ve broken the record.
AGREE ICHIRO IS BETTER
@KSG agreed. I think he could’ve finished near 4500
The varying eras in the final set is a testament to the beauty of baseball. You’ve got guys from the 70s, guys from the 2000’s, guys from the 20s, the 60s. Sure they have been changes in this game, but this game hasn’t changed. You hit the ball. Some men are better at it than others. Always have been, always will be.
Don't forget anson who retired before 1900. Some criticize this era but still super impressive.
Cap Anson being top 7 since 1872 and leading for a lot of it is amazing.
It takes a good eye to see the true beauty in baseball. If we were in the league we would probably lead in walks 👀🚶
This is why people hate the infield shift that goes on now
@@joeb1955 Honus Wagner remaining top 3 for over 100 years is insane.
Stan Musial 3,630 hits. 1,815 at home 1,815 on the road. "He didn't care where he was. He just hit." George Will.
Thanks for posting.
Another cool Musial quote: He went 2-4 in his first game and 2-4 in his last game and some reporter joked "He hasn't improved at all". Lol
@@username-zj9id That is very cool. Thanks!
@@comeacross9 👍watch the video of Ted Williams top 20 hitters. He says he was asked by his son if he thought Musial was as good a hitter as him and Ted said, yes he was
@@comeacross9 Late in Musial's career some rookie, I wish I could remember who, asked Stan for hitting advice. He replied "When I want to hit a grounder, I hit the top third of the ball. When I want to hit a line drive, I hit the middle third, and when I want to hit a fly ball I hit the bottom third." Stan wasn't being funny: he honestly thought this could be helpful advice for mere mortals.
@@ReservoirTip that is insane. Major league hitters have a hard enough time just hitting the ball, and Stan can pick which 3rd of the ball he wants to hit lol
Sad to see Clemente stop at 3000, a legend in my eyes
You got that right bro! Top 5 all time. JMO.
Yes it is I love Roberto, one of my all time favorite players
I recall he was a pretty solid defensive player also.
He left us too soon.
RIP
It was almost like it was destiny. Weird how the universe works. RIP
@@comeacross9 Pretty solid defender? He was incredible with his glove. A real 5 tool player. No flaws to his game. Could hit for average, hit for power, made spectacular catches, had a cannon for an arm and could run like the wind.
If Ichiro had 7 more years in the MLB instead of Japan, he would be on this leaderboard, easily too.
Only Ichiro and Kirby Puckett had 2000 hits in their first 10 years. And Paul Waner in 1926-1935.
He has more hits than Pete Rose if you add his hits from Japan onto his hits in the MLB
He'd be number 1
Ichiro would definitely be the all time hits leader had he played his whole career in the MLB.
And he did it without gambling on baseball, so he'll be a lock for the HOF as soon as he's eligible. Plus he had that crazy tremendous arm. What a great player.
2 things: 1. Had ichiro joined the mlb at 20, no way he isn’t the all time his leader, and 2. Put Pete Rose in the hall of fame
1 correct 2 even more correct
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Henry Aaron getting over 3000 hits that weren't home runs.
A home run is counted as a hit also.
@@pitbull113 if you took away all 755 of his homers
he'd still have three thousand hits
@@thedude3065 My bad. I was high when I wrote that.
@@pitbull113 doesn't make you a bad guy.
when he *** in 1960s.
You kind of have to wonder just how many hits Anson could have had if they played more games in a season in the first half of his career. They were generally only playing 60-80 game seasons in the 1870s.
If that was our era, he would've complained about too many black players and left the league to join the KKK more than likely.
Yeah no kidding, wanna say he was the only to retire as both the hitting king and in RBIs.
@@samw.8734 Dont be dumb. He was a product of his time. In our time he would have had our sensibilities living with us.
who cares guy played against scrubs wouldnt even make it to the league now
@@DL-gv2es the best athletes in the world don't even play baseball.
Fascinating stat method of display. Just wish the numbers to the right were large enough to read
Damn shame Ichiro is not on this list....
Meh, no one holds it against him...we all know where he’d be had he had a more orthodox mlb career
should be... he was above pujols at the end of this "slide"... had 3089
He didn’t sink enough singles.
@@theaterdreamer he also played in Japan for seven years and they didn’t count those here soooooo...
Not enough hits :)
Towards the end: Ichiro ended his career with 3,089 - more than Pujols at that point.
That’s what I thought too! You are correct.
They didn't put Tony Gwynn in either
Ooh! Okay, so, the creator's math might be a bit off. Pujols ended 2019 with 3,201 hits which meant Ichiro never made the list.
With regard to Tony Gwynn, amazing thought he was, Paul Waner had 11 more hits than Gwynn, meaning that, by 2001 - Gwynn's last season, he wouldn't have made the list...
I wonder where Ichiro would rank had he started his career in the states. 3rd I would imagine behind Rose and Cobb. I think his professional hits were number 1 if I'm doing my math right.
Ichiro would be over 4,000 with his Japan League stats
That last minute Pujols arrival and the last few years of Jeter after the chart was still was also poetry. This is amazing. Thanks for this video which I have commented on 7 times
Only 1890's kids remember Chicken Wolf.
Ty Cobb held the record for over 60 years. It goes to show how difficult it is to hit at the professional level for so many years. Put Pete Rose in the HOF NOW!
Agreed and to even approach the record you'd have to get past Aaron at 3700+ hits, which took him 22 years to accumulate.
Put Rose in after he dies, and put his plaque in the men's room.
@ohger1 why do you feel that way about Rose?
@@AnonymousPerson488 Because he's a piece of sh!t who bet on games in which he had a duty to perform, and as a result, changed the outcome of games.
Pete Rose's record has to be considered unbreakable. Nobody hardly even scratches 200 hits anymore. If Ichiro started in his early 20s and didn't get hurt 10 years into his career, maybe he could have done it.
Dude ichiro accomplished what pete rose did in a much shorter time period. You don’t even need to consider the time he spent in Japan to make him the hit king.
@@hjhhh8297 Not even close. Do the math. Even if Ichiro had started in MLB instead of Japan he never catches Rose. There is only one player in MLB history who, if he had played the same number of seasons and maintained his pace, could have caught Rose: Jeter.
Ichiro was amazing and I’m glad I got to see him play, but he’s not a better hitter than Rose.
@@rapid13 ichiro was definitely a better hitter. A better player overall. Pete Rose is still MLB's all time hit king, but Ichiro was better
@@ItsGamingFancy You suffer from recency bias. Rose’s WAR is nearly 20 points higher, his 162 game avg OPS+ is 8 points higher, and he averaged 5 more hits per season. And before you go on with the same tired bullshit about “If Ichiro had played in the States instead of Japan…,” Rose played his first 6 seasons with the 15 inch mound height and expanded strike zone and still hit .335 in 1968.
No, Ichiro was not a better hitter. No, he was not a better player overall. But thanks for playing.
@@rapid13 you suffer from grumpy old man bias. Ichiro was a monster at the plate and in the field and the better baserunner. All around a better player than Rose. Rose was on a better team than almost all of Ichiros teams. Rose average over 30 more ABs than ichiro in his 162 game average so even with a lower 162 game batting average he obviously would average more hits per season. Being in the Big Red Machine for 9 years has its perks
Hank Aaron and Willie Mays were beasts.
Def. Both are also home run leaders too.
Take away all of Hank Aaron's home runs, and he's still in the 3000 club.
Musial beat both, plus Mantle, A-Rod, Frank Thomas, Pujols, and others with his .559 SLG, which is 20th all-time! How many people know how highly Musial was in SLG%? Relatively low percentage of the average baseball fans, I'll bet! HR's aren't everything in hitting! There are Singles (2,253), Doubles (725, 3rd), and Triples (177) which also count for TB's that figure into SLG% also, along with his 475 HRs! Musial's 1,377 Extra Base Hits was #1 for years, topping Ruth at #2! Still ranked 4th all-time!
I notice Orator Shafer on the list in the 1880s, and he didn't just talk a good game.
*golf clap*
As an O's fan im proud of Cal and Eddie is on the list .they knew how to work the count ,and come through in the Clutch.Jeter,Yaz has my respect also .
Loved it when the “young” crop showed up at the bottom in like 1910-1912 range - Lajoie, HONUS, Cobb, etc
Then Hornsby my man! And Eddie Collins and tris speaker - people who are legends to this day and I’ve heard of that is. My knowledge of pre-1900 baseball is mostly of just Cap Anson. Lol
Ichiro actually should have been on this list as of 2019, as he had 3,089 hits after the 2018 season, at the same time that Pujols was at 3,082. Wouldn't matter now as Pujols has since passed him again (and Lajoie and Murray too)
Theres something absolutely nuts about how Hank Aaron ended his career second all time in hits and first in home runs. Hitting for average *and* power isnt that common especially when people up till the forties could hit .400.
Super consistent...i think he maybe had one injury in his career. Hank Aaron is a case of showing up to work every day and being really, really good at your job
MY Dad always said when he saw Aaron hit, you couldn't see his wrists because they snapped like a whip
5:10 The way Stan Musial rockets up the rankings in the late 50’s is impressive.
if ichiro started his pro career in the mlb he would have had 5,000+ hits
Loved watching Stan Musial go to #2 on this list and then stay near the top for the rest of the video!
Did Cobb lose 2 hits somewhere along the line, I thought he was at 4,191
I read somewhere that decades later when they went over the stats again from EVERY game Cobb was in, they found they counted 1 game twice. If I remember correctly, he had 2 hits in a game, game was suspended for darkness, continued next day or some other time and THAT continuation was counted as a game also. So it was said that those 2 hits were counted twice. I forgot where I heard that.
@@bdog1323 good memory. I did remember hearing about that before they noticed it after Rose's 4,192nd so I guess he doesn't have to worry sweating on his own players getting being forced to talk to the government earlier that day during the cocaine trial.
@@bdog1323 nice was my man. Never heard that one.,the one I heard was they had to play a tie breaker game. And it went from Regular season game to a playoff game. So those two hits in that game got taking away. Just a quote I heard. So it is what it is. He still a badass ball player and of only two players hitting over 4000 hits. So amazing!!!
Cap Anson, the player that founded the 1,000, 2,000, and 3,000 hit club.
and was also a straight up racist
@@terencehill2320 a white man in the 1800s was racist. Why is this news to you?
Chicken wolf has to be one of the greatest names of all time
Jack Glasscock too
Old Hoss Radbourn
tell it to van lingle mungo
not to mention cannonball titcomb
I love the marriage of music with the beautiful stillness of about 1945 where no one is coming in and no one is moving all retired. Beautiful.
I was looking forward to watching chicken wolf make a run for it, but his appearance was only brief
Our Roberto Clemente was #11, from 1972-74 until Al Kaline got his 3,001 in 1974. Blessings from San Juan PR !!!
I thought Cobb had 4191 official hits...I watched the game on 9/11/85 when Rose hit 4192 off Eric Show of the Padres...
I guess there was an error long after the record-breaking hit, where a couple Hits got marked twice, bringing the total back to "only" 4,189.
The second long moment of stillness after that 1945 to 1960 run comes in with 1985 and the bitter sweet end to Rose’s career. Amazing.
Watched this in entirety just so I could see Jeter pop up there. I miss watching him play. He'll always be the captain to me.
Only Yankee I like and respect. From a dyed in the wool Boston fan.
Cap Anson , the first player to get 1000 , 2000 & 3000 career hits . Cap Anson .
*Almost all baseball fans look at 3,000 career hits as one of the major benchmarks when it comes to career greatness. As of now (March 2021), there are only 32 players in all of baseball history who had 3,000 or more career hits. However, if you look at how many players had 3,400 or more career hits, the all-time list shrinks down to just 9 players. Truly amazing.*
*Also, consider these facts with Stan Musial, Derek Jeter, and Cap Anson:*
*Stan Musial, with 3,630 career hits (4th all-time), missed the entire 1945 season in his prime (age 24) because he was serving overseas in World War II. Had Musial been able to play in 1945, he could've easily finished with over 3,800 hits.*
*Derek Jeter, with 3,465 career hits (6th all-time), missed almost the entire 2013 season due to an ankle injury suffered in the 2012 ALCS, and the ongoing lingering setbacks. Had Jeter been able to play fully in 2013, he could've easily finished with over 3,600 hits.*
*Cap Anson, with 3,435 career hits (7th all-time), played his first 9 years of his career when Major League Baseball only played 80 games or less in a season and played 100 games or less in the next 3 seasons. Anson probably could've had over 4,000 career hits if not for the extremely short baseball seasons in the 1870s and early 1880s.*
Ichiro Suzuki had 3089 hits in the mlb, he played 9 seasons in Japan from age 18 to 26. Dude had a combined 4,367 hits between Japan and MLB.
@@mmbs3191 yeah that would put him at the top of this list
@@mmbs3191 *True. Ichiro Suzuki has the most career "professional" hits with 4,367 between the JBL and MLB.*
@@superbrownbrown professional might not be right, since minors are professional we could probably scrounge up the needed hits for Rose.
Jeter never breaks his ankle he would broke Rose records. How about Williams missing 5 years because of war, and Mays missing 2 and half seasons because of war too.
Cap Anson on this list since 1872! That’s amazing.
If you pause it at 3:48... you see Cobb, Speaker and E. Collins as the top 3 in hits all time in the American League...which is kind of cool because they were all on the same team (Philadelphia Athletics) in 1928.
So sad that Ichiro didn’t have a chance to break it. If he played all his seasons in the MLB, he 100% would have been the All Time Hit Leader
Pete Rose, as a player, should be in the HOF.
Yeah
Not going to happen! But, Pete and his fans can all keep crying about it 😭 😆 🤣 🤣
@@cubswincubswin Nobody is crying about it.😂😂 Thanks for stating the obvious of him never getting into the Hall of Fame. I'm sure all his fans know about the betting incident! I, myself, am not a fan. One does not need to be a fan to think he deserves to be in the Hall of Fame.... After all, he is the all-time hit leader. 😁😁 Nice try, trying to be smart and all, but there must be something better you could be doing.😅
Ty Cobb and many other players were pieces of sh!t in real life. They are in the HOF for what they did between the lines. We all know the Pete Rose story, but between the lines, his was a hitting machine. As a player he belongs in the hall.
The guys who cheated during the games, should never get in. Case in point, Roberto Alamar. What he did proves the type of person he is. He stays in because he was a great player
@@daydreamer226 Agreed
1891... I see you Chicken Wolf!
Ty Cobb held the record for 61 yrs damn
Too bad he was such an asshole. Wait, maybe it was BECAUSE he was an asshole...
@@ChimeraActual wrong it has been proven he’s not an asshole
you can pinpoint the moment Roberto Clemente died when his line stops
Really Honus Wagner? You couldn't eke out 16 more hits before retiring?
Nice job...great stuff. 😊
Very interesting how almost everyone who was on the chart in 1917/1918 when the US entered WW1 never got another hit...
That is an incredible video. That must have taken forever to make. Great Job
As weird as this sounds, I just realized how exclusive this club is
Imagine in 1871 being able to say “I have the most hits in MLB history with 66” 😂😂😂
I love these videos and I find the names fascinating from the 1800s through the 1950s. Names like Cap, Honus, Lip etc
Why did Pujols replace Cal Ripkin Jr on the list even though he has less total hits?
Amazing video again
Where can I find a jack glasscock Jersey
For the Ichiro "If & But Gang". I LOVE Ichiro too but combining hits from different leagues to claim he's somehow the all time hits leader is ridiculous. We don't do these mental gymnastics with any other player, in any other sport with any other statistic. It's weird. If we're going to call Ichiro the hits leader, then Sadaharu Oh is the all time Home Run Leader.
You can't add them up, but if Ichiro did play his whole career in the MLB he'd be up there. Top 5 in hits for sure. He wouldn't catch Rose, but top 5 is plausible.
@@Paulafan5 thanks for giving an "If & But" in response to my comment about "If's & But's". You guys just can't help yourselves.
@@Paulafan5 Woulda, Shoulda, Coulda…..Didn’t.
As far as I'm concerned, Cap Anson's record is the only legitimate one. I remember watching him play, during a time when real men played the game. Nowadays, we have a bunch of soft prima donnas, wearing batting helmets and getting paid exorbitant salaries of $80,000 a year. Cap Anson--now that's a real ball player! The one true hit king!
If you take away all of Hank Aaron’s 755 home runs he still has over 3,000 hits. A well known but still mind blowing fact
Wayne Gretzky would still be the all time points leader in the NHL even if he didn't score a goal. It just shows the talent of these guys.
If you took away alll.of Pete Rose's homeruns, doubles and triples he would still have over 3200 hits. Check out a book.called "More than just the Stats"
Don't forgot those doubles and RBI!
Very much enjoyed this one, so many great players, thanks
So basically two players, Cap Anson and Ty Cobb, help the record for over 100 years
I was a little surprised not to see Ichiro in there
It’s crazy just how little the list moves in the 40s and then the entire 50s
Simple, many of the best players served in WWII and of Korea. Ted Williams missed 4 prime years.
You should see the triples list, when Paul Waner retires in the early 40s, it never moves again.
@@briangulley6027 yeah I was about to say there was a lot of war going on back then .
Incredible that Cap Anson is in the top 10 of both hits and RBI. Who was that guy?
I guess Teddy Ballgame not here due to his vacation in Korea, oh, well.
It's pretty interesting that #'s 1 & 2 may be the most problematic skilled players in the sport.
The stat the surprised me the most about Ted Williams was that he hit over 500 homeruns in his career despite missing 5 seasons due to military service.
chimera in part that is TRUE ! But , when you walk a lot { F. Thomas } also . It hurts your hits totals , also .
Wait, Ichiro ended his career with 3,089 hits in 2018. But last place is Pujols at 3.082 in 2019?
Ichiro played many games in Japan where those hits are not counted here. Had he played in MLB from the start, he could have had over 4,500 hits
@@daydreamer226 Japan is not mlbs level so there’s no assuming anything. But that’s wansnt even his question
That Cap Andon guy must have been pretty good...
Where is Tony Gwynn?
Why the poor graphics? Numbers so small and hard to see.
Why were there players named Chicken Wolf and Jack Glasscock
Clemente is my guy Pete Rose got to get his due but I said before and I'll say it again Ty Cobb is a fucking beast...
I watched Kaline get 3000 in 1974 and got a one of his bats! Pure Tiger great.
My dad got his actual autograph, but it was lost. Last Christmas i gave him my 1971 Al Kaline Topps card, at least it had a reprinted autograph on it. I didn't mind.
Pretty cool video, thanks!
I was pulling for Cap Anson's record to stay as long as possible, yet I was crushed when Honus Wagner fell 15 short.
The 1871-1875 National Association for most all-time lists aren't counted, the actual National League began in 1876, so Wagner should be ahead of him now, and have been 1st at the time he retired.
please put more lines in those stats to se more players
Over nearly 145 years of professional baseball, no player was tougher to strike out than Hall of Fame shortstop Joe Sewell.
In 7,132 career at-bats, Sewell heard the umpire say “Strike three” just 114 times. That’s one strikeout for every 63 at-bats, or once every 17 games, or in just .014 percent of his total times at the plate.
Hall of Fame slugger Babe Ruth, whose power at the plate became synonymous with baseball during the time he and Sewell played, racked up nearly 12 times more punchouts in the big leagues.
“I never had trouble seeing the ball,” said Sewell, who often claimed he could see the spiraling seams on a baseball. “That’s because I followed it in. Why, I could even see the ball leave my bat.”
So it was more than a noteworthy occurrence when on May 13, 1923, Joe Sewell struck out twice in one game for the first time in his career. In truth, it was more like an historical aberration.
As an American League star in the 1920s and 1930s, Sewell regularly faced some of the best hurlers the game had ever seen, including Hall of Fame names like Red Faber, Waite Hoyt, Walter Johnson, and Herb Pennock. In 96 matchups, Hall of Famer Lefty Grove - he of 2,266 career strikeouts - could never reach strike three on Sewell, prompting him to call the shortstop the toughest batter he ever faced.
So with those impressive hurlers in mind, “Who was the first pitcher to strike out Joe Sewell twice in a game?” might make for one of the better trivia questions in baseball history. That’s because the answer is rookie Cy “Wally” Warmoth, who was making just his sixth career start when the Washington Senators traveled to Cleveland’s Dunn Field to face Sewell’s Indians.
By May 1923, Warmoth did have a couple wins against the Yankees under his belt, but few could have predicted that he would be the first to send Sewell back to the dugout twice. Though there is little anecdotal evidence from the game, a New York Times box score shows the lefty Warmoth collecting four strikeouts that day, but also issuing nine walks and losing to Cleveland by a 5-2 score.
Now I know why Cap Anson was such a big deal.
Thanks for posting this video. As a kid growing up in Cincinnati in the 1970's, I was a HUGE Reds fan and especially a fan of one Peter Edward Rose. I've tried to follow his work ethic of always giving 110% when I'm on the job. Pete Rose is definitely the best player of all time and deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. No Questions asked. He has more than paid his debt.
Not the best all time. Almost 2,000 more PAs than Aaron (Rose 15,890 PA; Aaron 3rd at 13,941 with Yaz 2nd at 13,992; Henderson 4th at 13,346; Cobb 5th at 13,103; Pujols 6th at 13,041, Ripken 7th, Murray 8th, Musial 9th at 12,721) give Rose the edge to get more Hits than Aaron, Musial, etc. But for the percentages ratios BA/OBP/SLG I'll take Musial any day in hitting over anybody not named Ruth, Williams, Gehrig, or Hornsby. Musial balanced BA with OBP and SLG better than any but those first 4 fellow HOF's. .331/.417/.559. That .559 SLG beats: Aaron, Mays, Mantle, Pujols, and many other so -called "better sluggers" who couldn't hit for BA or OBP as well as he did so consistently over his 22 years. Should have retired after 1962 with his .330 that year, as 1963 had him drop to .255 (again), matching his 1959 low.
pete rose belongs in the hall of fame.
Nope, not gonna happen! 😆 🤣 🤣
#LifetimeBan
Ol' Cap Anderson had a good 40+ year run, and you never even heard of him.
*Fun fact:* The Top 5 haven't changed in 35 years *(1986)*
6:54
Jeter got close, but not enough to crack it. Perhaps one more season would’ve done it.
If you make the numbers a little smaller you could make it utterly impossible to read, instead of only mostly impossible.
1:23 There is a player named Chicken Wolf! Give him the batting crown. Chicken Wolf for HOF.
Is it me or is them numbers by them names is kinda small?? Asking fer a freeund.
Absolutely disgusting that Honus Wagner retired just 15 hits from the record.
Truly amazing presentation
Spalding on strikeout and hit list. That's a threat!
I feel like I should have heard of Cap Anson before. Number one from 1880 to 1922 and stayed in the top 5 from 1879 to 1979.
It's very hard to read the hit numbers
Damn... Shame not to see Tony Gwynn on that list with 3,141 career hits. Don't care what anyone says, best hitter of the modern era hands down!
Ted Williams says “hi”. He hit for the average Gwynn did, and hit for power.
But Tony was amazing. I miss him tremendously. His laugh was infectious, As was his love of the game.
Williams was far better than Gwynn. Both in BA/OBP #1 alltime/SLG plus OPS and OPS+ 2nd only to Ruth.
This stats graphic is incredibleeee! Very fascinating
It's amazing that most people consider Teddy ballgame to be the best hitter ever yet he only finished with 2600 career hits across 19 seasons. Never had a 200 hit season. Interesting
Where was ichiro
The trio of Aaron, Mays and Clemente all showing up later and introducing black players and greats is so poetic. This may be, low key, the most beautiful video in TH-cam history.
I might be wrong but didn't Cap Anson finish with 2,997 hits not 3,400?
If ojly the numbers weren't so fricking tiny. Maybe then we could rwad them
Lest anyone thought Sewell was falling into a slump, the patient shortstop did not strike out again for another 32 games (more than a month’s time), and fanned just nine more times the entire season.
After 12 total punchouts in the 1923 campaign, Sewell would only become more disciplined as time went on. Between 1924 and his final season in 1933, Sewell recorded two seasons with just three strikeouts and three more with only four strikeouts. In fact, he was hit by a pitch more times than he struck out in five different seasons during that span.
Sewell’s consistency stretched beyond his plate discipline. A .312 lifetime hitter, he carried a 1,103 consecutive games played streak through much of the 1920s. Perhaps his most incredible feat is that he used the same bat, seasoned with chewing tobacco and sanded with an old Coke bottle, for every game of his career.
Warmoth, the southpaw who twice set down Sewell in 1923, would not last in the majors beyond that season. As for Sewell, he would only suffer one other two-strikeout game - against another rookie southpaw named Pat Caraway (who would last in the majors just three seasons himself) during an Indians-White Sox tilt on May 26, 1930.
Call it beginner’s luck for Warmoth and Caraway. With a hitter as foolproof as Sewell, there’s no other way to explain it.
“There’s no excuse for a major league player striking out 100 times a season,” Sewell said in 1960. “Unless, of course, he’s blind.”
Sewell was elected to the Hall of Fame in 1977.
LOL I am now totally blown away by the fact that a player named "Chicken Wolf" was once a hit leader back in the late 1800's. MARVELOUS!
Somewhere there exists a book of Baseball oddities that lists the many unusual player names. I know because at a quite stoned party ca. 1973 a dozen of us were rolling on the floor in hysterics just at the reading of them.
From what I gather as far as these charts go...Hank Aaron was greatly underrated...He gets credit to a certain extent...but in reality..he is a top 5..maybe top 3 hitter to ever play the game!!!And yes...I'm a born and raised Braves fan!!!And fuck the "plate apperance" argument...that just shows longevity and a point that he did it year in and year out..for many years!!!
I have a hard time, finding the right place for him. The one thing i give him without a doubt, the most consistent great of all time.
Absolutely concur. Hank Aaron is the most under-appreciated player of all time.
Aaron and Musial get skipped over a lot... not from media centers when they played..
Man..I feel the comments thus far..whilst only a couple...I love it...and love talking with "real" baseball guys!!!I've tried very hard as An Atlantan to not let my feelings of "Hammerin Hank" to blur my take on him.....but this man was a beast at the plate!!!And I'm proud that he wore the jersey of the team that I love!!
Didn't they count walks as hits in the early years of baseball? Just asking.
This was surprisingly satisfying
Ty Cobb and cap Anson wow 😲 they held on for a while
along with tris speaker, the BIGGEST white sheet wearers in all of sports.