Economy and Society of the Hobbits - Middle-Earth Lore DOCUMENTARY

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  • @WizardsandWarriors
    @WizardsandWarriors  2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Previous episodes in our series on the history of the Middle-Earth - th-cam.com/video/cVHygcEZbjY/w-d-xo.html

    • @darklordmalthric9814
      @darklordmalthric9814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Please cover the Exosquad

    • @denniscleary7580
      @denniscleary7580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Loved every single one of your videos and am truly looking forward to the first age, Turins story must be told.

    • @Zangetz
      @Zangetz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Please make a video about the Battle for Doldrey from Berserk!!!

    • @marcus4046
      @marcus4046 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      *Me already knowing that there is a underground cartel for the pipeweed trade*

    • @John-sx9zd
      @John-sx9zd 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can u plsase do more elder scroll

  • @JohnnyElRed
    @JohnnyElRed 2 ปีที่แล้ว +517

    Sure, the Shire may seem like a nice place to live on. But you only need to leave on vacation or on a business travel for a relatively long time, and next thing you know, when you come back, you will find all your neighbours sacking your house and subasting your belongings, because they assumed you were dead.
    I still want my silverware back, miss Hoggings!

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      And you have to consider that it'd be pretty hard work for most people. The books only familiarise us with the wealthy elite, with Farmer Magot being a very well off agricultural hobbit. Someone has to work for all those commodities though

    • @TheWhiteDragon3
      @TheWhiteDragon3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@tada-kun982 I always thought of the Hobbits as having a barter economy of sorts, trading the goods themselves or trading foreign-minted coins not for the value of the coin but of the value of the precious metal it was minted of. As far as the wealth of the wealthy families is concerned, it seems their wealth is largely based on the ownership of land, and only occasionally from a family stockpile of precious metals or gemstones, most notable of the latter being the Baggins family due to Bilbo's acquisition of his share of the trolls' hoard and a small portion of the treasure of Erebor. With this in mind, I think the Hobbit aristocrats owned large farms and rented the usage of their lands to smaller farmers or hired laborers with the written contract of a portion of the harvest/animal product, a practice that lead to widespread exploitation in real life by the human peoples but relatively rare among Hobbits due to their unambitious nature and sense of common decency, a cheeky little criticism of humanity by Tolkien. With all this said, the common laborer was able to acquire all he needed to feed his family while still having some surplus to trade with his fellow laborers and traders for goods that cannot or are not produced in the Shire, while the wealthy aristocrats are able to sell their excess goods, especially wine and pipe weed, to nearby human settlements for foreign coinage.

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@TheWhiteDragon3 the Bagginses were already wealthy, just not *ridiculously* wealthy. But yeah you make a good point

    • @Canadian_Zac
      @Canadian_Zac 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tada-kun982 Yeah, he had 1 Chest of Silver, and 1 of Gold.
      And, by the time Bilbo took over Bag End, it was bassically all gone. Bilbo spent it all on gifts for the other hobbits, parties, etc.

    • @ChristianDall-p2j
      @ChristianDall-p2j หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TheWhiteDragon3I Think that the shire does have a money-based economy, as how Else could they have auctions, like they one they held for bilbos stuff at the end of the hobbit, due to Bilbo being presumed dead after having been gone for too Long!

  • @Zantides
    @Zantides 2 ปีที่แล้ว +463

    Off topic: It's interesting that the rangers kept protecting the Hobbits and the Shire even after the fall of their kingdom.

    • @huanquocmanh416
      @huanquocmanh416 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Gotta keep their slave/supplier safe

    • @petervarga7755
      @petervarga7755 2 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@huanquocmanh416 what

    • @blakecheboygan
      @blakecheboygan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

      Isn’t it because Gandalf told them to do it?

    • @thescarletpumpernel3305
      @thescarletpumpernel3305 2 ปีที่แล้ว +129

      "A little people, but of great worth are the Shire-folk. Little do they know of our long labor for the safekeeping of their borders, and yet I grudge it not"- Halbarad, Dunedain ranger. I imagine the rangers are just grateful there's a place of order and goodness in a mostly ruined Kingdom.

    • @manueljoshua175
      @manueljoshua175 2 ปีที่แล้ว +78

      @@thescarletpumpernel3305 and I guess it also gave the rangers some more purpose. Just fighting all the time and seeing no merits to it would suck. This way at least the hobbits are somewhat safe and I guess some pipe weed is nice after shooting some Orks ;)
      Also getting food is probably a lot easier if they can trade at Bree and I doubt the rangers have their own brewery. Just remember where the hobbits met Aragon...

  • @Dreaming05Man
    @Dreaming05Man 2 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    Finally! An economic analysis of LOTR. GRRM will be so happy.

  • @thedoruk6324
    @thedoruk6324 2 ปีที่แล้ว +162

    So are we going to talk about the magnanimous economy of the Orcs of Gundabadul and their almost steampunk age ?

  • @michaellaramee1965
    @michaellaramee1965 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    I love your economics and politics videos. The older I get the more I appreciate a good deep dive into the economics of a nation and how that shapes them rather then hearing about "flanking maneuver" for the 77th time

  • @Arkasule
    @Arkasule 2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    Well, now I want OfficiallyDevin to narrate the Hobbit! If you're up to it, maybe even the Lord of the rings!! Take my money!!!!

  • @MastaToSch
    @MastaToSch 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Here I'm sitting, watching the ins and outs of Hobbit economy, while WW3 is brewing. What a glorious time to be alive! :D

  • @Nodim1er
    @Nodim1er 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I'm dreaming. Am I dreaming? This must be my favorite video in this channel so far.
    Amazing job from the team!

  • @MessDawn
    @MessDawn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i just discovered your channel recently, and this economic film is my favorite. im listening to it playing my city builders or castle builders :)

  • @catriona_drummond
    @catriona_drummond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    It is safe to assume that the Hobbit economy was not at all self sufficient and that trade must have played a massive role. The Hobbits had a big range of items in use like glass, brass, bronze, lead, iron and steel, precious metals, several kinds of textiles and a lot more. Many of these thins require quite a lot of energy to make which in a preindustrial society would be based on wood and charcoal. Yet the shire being rather small in size and devoid of mountains or big forests doesn't seem to provide opportunities for logging, mining and other related things.
    Also the productive part of the population seems to be very focused on food production so is not likely that the considerable amount of people that is needed to run a mine and the related facilities, like ore washing, smelting, etc. was available.
    and just think of all the non-food-production-related crafts they'd still need, even given raw materials: weavers, taylors, tanners, cobblers, bookbinders, smiths/toolmakers, the whole variety of woodworking professions from carpenter to cooper, potters, builders and so on.
    Trade can be the only answer to explain the bucolic existence of that small people. And that trade can only hinge on either preserved food and, well the pipeweed. It is a classic consumption/luxury good, probably comparably valuable to other goods, doesn't weigh a lot and can be well transported over long distances. It it is most likely that the export of pipeweed gave the hobbit economy the trade surplus it needed to provide itself anything that domestic production lacked.
    In a way Tolkien is a bit of a hypocrite here. he knew likely very well that the little paradise he spent his childhood in was far from being self sufficient and had not been for a long time. The pipeweed trade kinda fixes the whole thing and helps it make sense and it is definitely not unheard of that societies like these, hinging on trade of a certain valuable agricultural good did well. None did ever avoid strak poverty and a very inequal distribution of the land and capital ownership.

    • @theinvisibleskulk4563
      @theinvisibleskulk4563 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think idealizing one type of society or another and demonizing a contrasting type of society is sort of inevitable in tales with primarily straight heroes and villains. Incidentally, this black and white morality is what I blame for this channel's battle breakdowns so far being so disappointing.

    • @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin
      @Usammityduzntafraidofanythin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm gonna call BS on the economy. Tolkien wasn't an economist or investor (tmk) - it's a fantasy story, so the hobbits have lots of stuff 'just because' it serves the setting which he created.

    • @catriona_drummond
      @catriona_drummond 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin that is definitely not the worst explanation. The question is indeed, whether we need that in a fantasy story.
      But I guess that there are many fans who want the lore to make sense on that level.

    • @youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508
      @youravaragetoxicmasculinem9508 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same can be said for the dwarves, their economy was mianly based on basicly crafrmansihp of all sort from a range of ıronsmithing, building, mining coal and precious metals and crafting jeweleries and all sorts of tools with things that they have mined, they don't seem to grow their own food, they are dependent on people for food which means theey have to sustain a friendly policy towards whom around them.

    • @marcelosoaresdasilva2691
      @marcelosoaresdasilva2691 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Tolkien is not exatly a hypocrite, the thing is he idealized a almost perfect or ORGANIC society, as he know that perfection only exists in god and his paradise, as he is christian, in the case a catholic, in general he idealize a society or civilization where honor and others importants thinks like oaths are take very seriously and you can get harshly punished by god if you don't follow, by the way, he idealize a society where you take from the nature but in the same time you respect and even try to improve or restore it, basically a mutual contract between man and god, as nature is god itself or creation, the problem is that you and your people in general don't understand much of traditionalism and rural societies, not urban or industrial ones, who played a important role in LOTR, but not as a speculative and money sharks class of merchants or artisans but as honests and diligent people, and yes, that the primary reason why the primary economyc of the population are rural, live from the land or nature, the use of basics, without much luxury who tends to brings hedonism and others, you see, Tolkien is a very traditionalism man, not a Liberal Conservative as today people tends to think, he is more close to the Carlists of Spain or Manuelists from Portugal, also, he never try to hide the fact that the world that he lives is not the same one, as you see that materialism, relativism and atheism are dominating, by the way AGAIN, you people don't really understand Tolkien and even a basic and obviously think of ancient and medieval economics, even creating a random strawman to attack him or criticize him, honestly, you people can do better than this, so, overall, he idealizes a ORGANIC or TRADITIONALIST society or civilization, not a modern one, who of course, existed.

  • @lerneanlion
    @lerneanlion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    With this video, my hope for seeing societies like the Mandalorians and the Geonosians and how the organizations like the Republic, the Separatists, the Jedi and the Sith functioned are being made by this channel is quite... looking nicely!

    • @nathanmoore101
      @nathanmoore101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes mandalorian. This is the way .

    • @lerneanlion
      @lerneanlion 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nathanmoore101 The way indeed.

  • @cactuskhan4649
    @cactuskhan4649 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love videos like this. While I know the story pretty well which reduced my attraction to some other LOTR videos, stuff like economics is rarely talked about and feels very fresh and interesting.

  • @emerestthisk990
    @emerestthisk990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Really insightful, most of this stuff about the hobbits I never knew

  • @Saladrex999
    @Saladrex999 2 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    This was surprisingly interesting... Do not judge a video by its title, I suppose.
    Keep up the good work, both channels doing good

    • @boobah5643
      @boobah5643 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since the _Kings and Generals_ branding is still fairly front and center, I'm guessing you've missed (or passed) on _The Cold War?_

  • @denniscleary7580
    @denniscleary7580 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just randomly picked up my phone and saw this pop up just now, now it truly will be a glorious day. Thanks wizards

  • @brokenbridge6316
    @brokenbridge6316 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This video mostly confirmed what I suspected about the Shire. My compliments to all those who made this video a reality.

  • @blackflagsnroses6013
    @blackflagsnroses6013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is a great idea. I hope you’ll go into all the fictional cultures of the franchises you cover. Star Wars, LotR etc…

  • @julianforrer478
    @julianforrer478 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    In the films it seemed to me that society had collapsed across middle earth, no trade, scattered armies everyone fending for themselves outside the walls of minas tirith or edoras and low population density

  • @ShadesApeDJansu
    @ShadesApeDJansu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +51

    I never tought about Biblo and Frodo being rich, i've read all the books and watched the movies but by now i get it... strange :S Thank you for the video and enlightening me

    • @epicazeroth
      @epicazeroth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      The Bagginses are landlords. Bagshot Row is their land, literally on the lower parts of the hill Bag End is built into.

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@epicazeroth yeah they literally have servants and silver spoons lmao

    • @jamiemcintosh3030
      @jamiemcintosh3030 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "LOUIS-SENPAIIII!!!!!

    • @ShadesApeDJansu
      @ShadesApeDJansu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamiemcintosh3030 Always the star... :P

    • @ShadesApeDJansu
      @ShadesApeDJansu 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@epicazeroth Thank you, now i feel better than just thinking they're filthy rich because of Bilbo's parting gifts on The Hobbit

  • @francescofontana9707
    @francescofontana9707 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Me: "Ah.. the idyllic nature of the country life in the Shire..."
    Kings and Generals: "SO, the Shire is an extractive plantation economy where a landed aristocracy lived off the back of what are basically poor tobacco farmers, in an enviroment with rigidly enforced classe norms and expectations"
    Awesome video by the way!

  • @johnroy2567
    @johnroy2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Listening to the wind as the camera pans Isengard made me shiver...BrRrRr

  • @Gaia_Gaistar
    @Gaia_Gaistar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    >read the hobbit and lord of the rings in the 90's
    >me: "Man, I want to be a Hobbit."
    >27 years later watching the movies with people
    >them: "Man, I want to be a Hobbit."
    Some things never change.

  • @Docre_T
    @Docre_T 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Ok now THIS is a dream!!! I can't believe you're going to cover economic, social, political etc aspects of Middle Earth too besides battles! Whenever I think you guys can never surprise me again you always prove me wrong.
    I think that that agrarian, pre-industrial, local, homogenous, and stable society with almost no government while under supervision of a distant ruler is seriously and objectively the best way to live. After all my experiences and studies in life I only know that we humans aren't made to enjoy much more than "good tilled earth", good company and food. The only business that should worry us should be the one of "growing and eating food".

    • @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
      @MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In real life the place you talking about would be full of blood feuds from the lack of government

    • @Hopeforhumans
      @Hopeforhumans 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a myth, It's what we want okay, but we cannot get it.
      Except if we freeze the birthrates, the technology and the culture. And that's both utopian (as in impossible to pull off) and dystopian, it would need tremendous amounts of political power and trampling of individual liberty and creative endeavor.
      It would also be very fragile to changes in nature, pandemics, climatic events and that sort of things.
      Nah, with extremely advanced technologies giving us basically superabundance then yes, we might get close to that, but not before we get there. Definitely.

  • @jonbaxter2254
    @jonbaxter2254 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I feel if I lived in the shire, I wouldn't care if the wider world's economy was stagnating... I'd be happy and content.

  • @shehansenanayaka3046
    @shehansenanayaka3046 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brillaint video. We always appreciate your hard work to make these videos. Love from Sri Lanka 🇱🇰🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @colterwebb6382
    @colterwebb6382 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm a simple man. I see a wizards and warriors video, I watch it

  • @9051team
    @9051team 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hell yeah! Economics!
    ~me a logistics nerd.

  • @clevermcgenericname891
    @clevermcgenericname891 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Today on Wizards and Warriors, we will be discussing the the economy of Warhammer 40,000's Orks...
    They use their own teeth as currency and aquire more by smashing smaller Orks in the face. Thats...thats about it...er...sponsored by RAID SHADOW LEGENDS...catch you on the next one?

    • @baybarsedturner2
      @baybarsedturner2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      How do Warhammer Orks deal with the problem of inflation with all those teeth circulating about?

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@baybarsedturner2 they basically have a Klan that only exists to abuse that inflation to get filthy rich

    • @the_corvid97
      @the_corvid97 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@baybarsedturner2 According to the Lexicanum: "Despite these properties, if not purposefully crushed, Ork teef will eventually disintegrate and fall apart, making sure that even the richest Ork’s hoard will never last him forever."

    • @amesnfire1098
      @amesnfire1098 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@the_corvid97 Further proof that orks are the heros of 40k. They have an economy that is immune to inflation.

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these docs, thanks so much ☺️

  • @dasarianshuman408
    @dasarianshuman408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:33 Ah, a perfect menu for a comfortable christmas gathering ❤
    A little red wine, raspberry jam & apple tart, mincemeat (chopped lamb, berries & nuts, & cheese) pies and cheese, pork (pork belly & carrots & onions & turnips) pie and salad, fruitcakes and coffee and ale, a few eggs (fried, of course), and cold chicken and pickles!
    YUM ❤❤❤

  • @shehansenanayaka-n1o
    @shehansenanayaka-n1o ปีที่แล้ว

    shire one of the beautiful places in lotr universe . it also influenced by i think jrr s home village . brilliant video. keep up your work ,. it s amazing.

  • @TaneTiare805
    @TaneTiare805 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Simply amazing work. Loving your series here as much or possibly more than the movies, in some aspects =p Very fun to see what we can infer from simple knowledge given by Tolkien in the books laid out in such an informative and simple way. A+ good sirs.

  • @PetrucciIbiza
    @PetrucciIbiza 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice that you upload in different time than kings and generals. good move

  • @sizanogreen9900
    @sizanogreen9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now this is the content I am looking for on this channel!

  • @austinhornbeck5060
    @austinhornbeck5060 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The Shire seems like the perfect place to live.

  • @Matthewgriffiths18
    @Matthewgriffiths18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should do a video about the battle the hobbits fought in like the battle of greenfields

  • @IanHeins
    @IanHeins ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice work dude thanks

  • @mutolover3851
    @mutolover3851 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is an excellent idea for the topic of a video

  • @evangilbert5251
    @evangilbert5251 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'd love to see some more series on Warhammer, and possibly Infinity and Warmachine!
    But this video shows there's plenty of content yet in the Legendarium of Tolkien

  • @oriffel
    @oriffel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    do battletlech plz. its a neofudal franchise with a rich history, its older than 40K, and there's just so much stuff there for you to work with.

    • @matebalazs1575
      @matebalazs1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Black Pants Legion videos

    • @oriffel
      @oriffel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@matebalazs1575 ??? what about them? i want THIS channel to cover it, hence why im commentating here. This place will go stale quick if its nothing but more star wars and LOTR. Not that the LOTR videos havent been great, but it needs more variety.

    • @matebalazs1575
      @matebalazs1575 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oriffel They did a couple of BT lore videos and technical stuff.

    • @oriffel
      @oriffel 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@matebalazs1575 no shit.

  • @blackflagsnroses6013
    @blackflagsnroses6013 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The best real world correlations to Hobbit society, politics, and economics would be Tolkien’s Catholic influences. Catholic Social Teaching has a view of society being built on Subsidiarity. This means affairs bring handled by the lowest social unit possible. It’s a decentralist political and social structure. And economically Distributism seems to be Tolkien’s ideal system. Distributism is a Catholic economic ideal for a proper economy built on Christian principles of family, human dignity, and community. Distributism means that property be as widely distributed into the hands of families and communities as possible.

  • @midasreal
    @midasreal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1 min in and already have to comment how i love this series on the basic idea great work!!

  • @collintrytsman3353
    @collintrytsman3353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    fascinating stuff adds so much to the lore

  • @historydocumentary
    @historydocumentary 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant!

  • @ronniecorbett6306
    @ronniecorbett6306 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these videos.

  • @Finvor
    @Finvor 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Beautiful pictures :-)

  • @donright4492
    @donright4492 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This would make a very interesting open-world micromanagement decision-making Lord of the rings game if it ever came to be and Bilbo and frodo being the richest guys around holy frak I guess that's why they opened a Bilbo's Pizza down here in Michigan

  • @WarDankEagle
    @WarDankEagle 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was great! I think an interesting topic for a future video would be how Dwarves acquire their food.

  • @AfaqueAhmed_
    @AfaqueAhmed_ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Its everyone's dream to live in a place like the Shire , just a little security and life acknowledgement issues .

  • @KonyCurrentYear
    @KonyCurrentYear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Shire with running water and electricity is my ideal society.

  • @Uzair_Of_Babylon465
    @Uzair_Of_Babylon465 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video keep it up your doing amazing job

  • @MurphMM.
    @MurphMM. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    far better then what the rings of power will be

  • @Xeno-009
    @Xeno-009 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes yes yes, more vids like this

  • @dandyrevisionist7879
    @dandyrevisionist7879 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks excellent.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I’m just curious how the Hobbits never developed more cultural products considering an abundance of food they have…

  • @rxm02trc
    @rxm02trc 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should get more subscribers, because your a good story teller

  • @myriadmediamusings
    @myriadmediamusings 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Tolkien’s utter contempt for industry reminds me of Dahl’s utter contempt for televison. They’re both correct in how these are not good in excess but it was only after their lifetime when some sort of balance and weighing of the pros and cons was considered.

  • @keyboarddancers7751
    @keyboarddancers7751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Most excellent and satisfying.

  • @d.esanchez3351
    @d.esanchez3351 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think the older you get the more you want to have a small house in the Shire and enjoy the peaceful little things of life.

    • @TheRelen222
      @TheRelen222 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wanted it when I was 18, just didn’t have the money.

  • @rramos117
    @rramos117 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never understood how orcs could multiply faster than humans or elves and sustain large armies without large-scale agriculture or animal husbandry.

    • @Swedsman
      @Swedsman 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The barren hellscape we see around Barad-Dur and Mt. Doom only makes up a fracture of Mordor and the orcs there where bred for war exclusively. Huge parts to the southeast where fertile plains surrounding the massive lake Nurn and was home to a vast population of enslaved humans producing the food needed for the orcs. Not to mention all the tribute and bribes coming from Harad in the south and Rhun to the east, both great kingdoms with more land and people than the west. With all these human slaves the Orcs could basically just exist and breed solely for the purpose of war. Kinda like the Spartans of ancient Greece.

    • @marcelosoaresdasilva2691
      @marcelosoaresdasilva2691 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      In general they are created by black magic, and also, they just pillaged the countryside and especially in the fertily places of Mordor they have a rural economy with slaves.

  • @samdumaquis2033
    @samdumaquis2033 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very interesting

  • @theorientaleagle1127
    @theorientaleagle1127 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Last time I was this early, Numenor still existed.

  • @kylefisher1458
    @kylefisher1458 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wizards & Warriors: Concerning Hobbits

  • @Peptuck
    @Peptuck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Battles are cool, but economics is far less talked about and far more interesting.

  • @TheVoiceOfReason93
    @TheVoiceOfReason93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm up for Mordor for the next LOTR lore video.

  • @jack-dn2uk
    @jack-dn2uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you make series about shinobi war and lore of Konohagakure

  • @BaldingClamydia
    @BaldingClamydia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sam didn't marry Rosie because of class! He married her because he loved her from the beginning. Them being from the same class is probably coincidental to them running in the same circles, with the same interests and the same capital. People with more hang out together, people with less hang out together; that's usually the way of things

  • @Darkdaej
    @Darkdaej 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Thank goodness you dropped the subject of industrialization when you did...I was half-expecting you to declare LOTR as an allegory to the evils of the industrial revolution and the World Wars...

  • @notreallymyname3736
    @notreallymyname3736 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Hey, can we go settle this land on the other side of the river?"
    "Sure. Just follow the law and make sure these bridges are maintained."
    "...that's all we have to do?"
    "I still get to hunt there a few times a year."
    "... is that seriously it?"
    "Just make sure the bridges don't fall down and don't do anything crazy."

  • @azizafandi6121
    @azizafandi6121 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So the 4 hobbits were 2 nobles, 1 aristocrat and his servant

    • @robertoleary5470
      @robertoleary5470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      What’s the difference between a noble and an aristocrat?

    • @lhemnenn4713
      @lhemnenn4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertoleary5470 A Noble is generally from of a specific landlord family line with political status, a aristocrat is a general term for any rich family who usually have business activities ...
      That said it varies from country to country and period ...

    • @robertoleary5470
      @robertoleary5470 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lhemnenn4713 right thanks

    • @lhemnenn4713
      @lhemnenn4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@robertoleary5470 By the way, in the kingdom of France a aristocrat was often called a "Bourgeois" and those were indeed not form old Knights families like the Noble ... Unfortunately the term is often used as a general term for every rich family even in modern France ...

    • @Draeandor
      @Draeandor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And at one point in his life, said humble servant carried not only the one ring, but also it's bearer literally on his shoulders, the greatest burden imaginable. True poetry!

  • @justinjenkins6925
    @justinjenkins6925 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fire channel

  • @omprasadpradhan2322
    @omprasadpradhan2322 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do one about battle of trident

  • @evrensaygn1017
    @evrensaygn1017 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow what a true and happy way to live!
    (Continues over-thinking things that makes him sad)

  • @magosexplorator8145
    @magosexplorator8145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do you guys do video games to? If so could I request Mass Effect? Also Warhammer 40K love to see the siege of the Imperial palace

    • @tada-kun982
      @tada-kun982 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The issue is that with the latter, there's little tactical detail. How do you contextualise "Billions of people stood around a fuckoff massive mountain range fighting gigantic supersoldiers for a hundred years"?

    • @magosexplorator8145
      @magosexplorator8145 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tada-kun982 fair point, but my main ask is if they can do a warhammer 40k battle, I'd love to see how they explain and show a battle like that

    • @retcon2536
      @retcon2536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Halo would be interesting to see as well

  • @cr-jj1nr
    @cr-jj1nr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a video on the 30 year siege of Orsinium?

  • @Zangetz
    @Zangetz 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please make a video about the Battle for Doldrey from Berserk!!!

  • @kellyjohns6612
    @kellyjohns6612 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I sure do like my pipe-weed. And here in the Blue Ridge mountains of VA, I can purchase it at the corner store. 😁👵
    ** I'm trying to coin the phrase "cannabis flower"

  • @riissanen93
    @riissanen93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hobbits had it all figured out.

  • @DD-nb9rn
    @DD-nb9rn 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If possible you should do one of these videos but on like the cultures of Far Harad
    I know there isnt much information about those cultures so you could lump all of them into one video

  • @earlofdoncaster5018
    @earlofdoncaster5018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The presence of wine in The Shire does not indicate the existence of either cork or glassblowing. Also they probably traded for metal goods rather than mined and metal-bashed.

  • @simonjohansson248
    @simonjohansson248 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "hardly any goverment, families for the most part managed their own affairs"
    Hobbits were the Sicillian Mafia of Middle Earth

  • @KageRyuu6
    @KageRyuu6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What do you mean Bilbo is an aristocrat? I thought all the heroes from LotR were all working class folk! How outrageous! Harumph! lol

  • @NobleKorhedron
    @NobleKorhedron 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    @Wizards and Warriors: Have you forgotten that Bilbo's own mother was Belladonna Took...?

  • @TheLordUrban
    @TheLordUrban 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I believe it is implied that a good deal of manufactured goods were obtained through trade with dwarves.

  • @dricjackson4902
    @dricjackson4902 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So we’re the Hobbits like middle earths grocery store?

  • @sailorbitmoon7994
    @sailorbitmoon7994 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha nice one

  • @Amantducafe
    @Amantducafe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hah! And George R.R Martin said Tolkien didn't wrote about Aragorn's tax policy!

  • @shancre
    @shancre 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    nice

  • @Dunderbowl
    @Dunderbowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:38 Baithically

  • @johnroy2567
    @johnroy2567 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Am I correct in thinking that the Tooks & The Bagginses were related

  • @Artorien
    @Artorien 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Things got a little too dramatic with the music at 9:20 lol.

  • @darklordmalthric9814
    @darklordmalthric9814 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please cover the Exosquad

  • @arkadisevyan
    @arkadisevyan 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tolkien's rose bud was nature huh

  • @giofranco6887
    @giofranco6887 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hahahahahahahaha “weed” 😂 🤣

  • @firestorm1088
    @firestorm1088 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Getting into the societies of these worlds as well as the historical events? Hell yeah.

  • @jcheck1107
    @jcheck1107 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you do videos about The Expanse

  • @Lawlzinator
    @Lawlzinator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    But what about Aragon's tax policy?

  • @realgrilledsushi
    @realgrilledsushi 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonder what of Umbar and the lands of Harad and Khand?

  • @Priyanshutech876
    @Priyanshutech876 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Next video on Chandragupta Maurya rise to power and battle from Magadha 🙏🙏🙏